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VCDS - Error help - P0016 / P0441
« on: June 06, 2015, 12:26:55 pm »
Hi all,

Just wondering what the folllowing issues may be with my engine? They have repeatedly come back after clearing them and then 150 miles of driving. They will sometimes clear by themselves after say 200 miles of driving, but most times I have cleared them using VCDS.

I think the engine is slightly louder in terms of diesel sound than when I first picked it up last year, but nothing abnormal.

Would love to be able to take this to my mechanic and just tell him what to work on!  :happy2:

Monday,25,May,2015,19:17:22:22075
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 14.10.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20150311
www.Ross-Tech.com


Mileage: 170320km-105831mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

Mileage: 170320km-105831miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010

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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 J    HW: 8P0 907 115 B
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0030 
   Revision: 5BH16---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0G8065017
   Coding: 0403000318070160
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 2D512821B4470549F59-8078

2 Faults Found:
001089 - EVAP Emission Control Sys
               P0441 - 002 - Incorrect Flow - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 27
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 166642 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 19:06:38

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 846 /min
                    Load: 18.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 86.0∞C
                    Temperature: 21.0∞C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.970 V

000022 - Bank 1: CMP Sensor (G40) / Engine Speed Sensor (G28)
               P0016 - 008 - Incorrect Correlation - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 168627 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 15:07:07

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 848 /min
                    Load: 22.3 %
                    Speed: 13.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 29.0∞C
                    Temperature: 16.0∞C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.351 V

000010 - Camshaft Positioner (Bank 1 Intake)
               P000A - 008 - Slow Response - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 7
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 162626 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 07:52:19

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1121 /min
                    Load: 16.9 %
                    Speed: 33.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 39.0∞C
                    Temperature: 5.0∞C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.351 V

Readiness: 0000 0000

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:52)--------------------------


Any help greatly appreciated!
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Re: VCDS - Error help - P0016 / P0441
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2015, 07:39:39 am »
Evap is very common, usually the charcoal filter or the valve

As for thhe other 2 - It sounds like the camshaft adjuster is not doing its job. Log measuring block 91 (i think) and it will give you a specified and actual for the camshaft position. They should follow and match each other (give or take a degree). Post the screenshots/logs if unsure. Theres an output test and basic setting to run to see if it helps
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Re: VCDS - Error help - P0016 / P0441
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2015, 05:11:57 pm »
That's great regarding the Evap. Will get a part ordered soon!

For the camshaft adjuster - I've been reading up big time on this to get an understanding of it. You were bang on with block 91 - but after driving with it, my friend couldn't see a big deviation between the actual and specified (apart from minor fluctuations, especially when applying load).

The graph that VCDS produces is largely useless to me as I'm a bit clueless.

If I post a video of what VCDS outputs and its graph, might you be able to say whether it's on point?
In my opinion, it does sound dervy, but no where near as bad as I've heard older AXX engines (mine is BWA). Looked into camshaft chain/adjuster replacement and while it is expensive, it's something I would do give myself peace of mind that the engine isn't about to go pop.

FYI, my cam follower was moderately worn after 100k miles, if that is of any use to you.



Any advice (and all given so far...) greatly appreciated!

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Re: VCDS - Error help - P0016 / P0441
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2015, 09:31:09 pm »
Judging by the fault frequency, it's an intermittent fault. No graph needed, just a log of the measuring block, it produces a .CSV file with the data. If it is intermittent it may be hard to capture the data at the right time. Could try clearing them to see how quickly they come back

The injectors are very 'ticky' if there is such a word, and the fuel pump can make a slight tapping sound, but the engine itself should be fairly quiet. There shouldnt be any loud rattles or knocking noises. Plenty of Youtube videos to demonstrate the noise made from a slack chain
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