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Re: My 3dr black GTi
« Reply #45 on: July 25, 2015, 09:09:07 pm »
Assuming you can account for all other bolts being tight and accounted for (nothing left in there).

The other issue I've had is not having it resting on its wheels causes the flywheel sometimes to emit horrible noise - not on many but on some new clutch installs when the g/box has plenty miles on it (It's always disappeared when the vehicle is its its normal running position).
A recording of the noise may help.

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Re: My 3dr black GTi
« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2015, 09:12:52 pm »
Ok everything is 100% tight and correct as far as I can tell. I've checked everything I can think off. The only other thing I've not done is bleed the clutch as I didn't think it would be an issue to start it up first and check everything engine wise is ok before doing that.

The gearbox has done 95k and I didn't think it being on axle stands would make a difference???

I'll put a recording up soon. I'm pretty sure it's going to be the cover between the engine and box. I think it's going to be gearbox off to sort it or atleast gearbox pulled away from the block 15-20mm so I can bend it in or something. Pretty annoyed but if that's what I've got to do then I'll have to do it.
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Re: My 3dr black GTi
« Reply #47 on: July 26, 2015, 02:16:09 pm »





Here's a couple of video of the horrible noise. I can assure anyone that's willing to guess what it could be that's it's not coming from actual engine itself. It may be hard to tell that off the video.
I'm 99% sure it's coming from the gearbox area and the only thing I can see it being is the plate between the box and engine touching the flywheel.

Thanks for the suggestions so far... Do you have any input? I'm lost if it's not that @doylebros
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Re: My 3dr black GTi
« Reply #48 on: July 26, 2015, 05:33:24 pm »
I would want to do more checking before I pulled the gearbox out as I don't go for the plate since you done the mating of the engine to box out of the vehicle and would of seen that touching as you married them up!

Also check the guard on the driveshafts is that touching also turn it over from the driveshaft can you feel the obstruction?

When in and out of gear can you've feel the obstruction when turning the engine over by hand from the crank pulley?

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Re: My 3dr black GTi
« Reply #49 on: July 26, 2015, 05:38:21 pm »
I left the gearbox in the car and then put then put the engine in. I'll check the other bits you've mentioned. Not bleeding the slave cylinder up (yet) wouldn't make that noise would it? Thanks for the suggestions @doylebros
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Re: My 3dr black GTi
« Reply #50 on: July 26, 2015, 05:47:26 pm »
I can't see why not bleeding the clutch would make any difference and it's the not the strange noise I've heard off a few high mileage gearboxes have made either!

It's more typical of that inspection plate but since it's not fitted it can't be!

What puzzles me is why you didn't feel it when you turned it over by hand prior start cause the noise is loud enough to give a healthy obstruction feel,unless you never barred it over by hand from the crank pulley prior start up?

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Re: My 3dr black GTi
« Reply #51 on: July 26, 2015, 06:19:58 pm »
I've turned it over by hand once the engine was built etc but not since its been in the car and attached to the box as I'd done it prior and new all was ok
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Re: My 3dr black GTi
« Reply #52 on: July 26, 2015, 06:27:13 pm »
As I've said you're going to feel it as we can hear it - I wouldn't be suprised it's the driveshaft plate as you'll of had a struggle getting the lump back in.

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Re: My 3dr black GTi
« Reply #53 on: July 26, 2015, 06:32:29 pm »
Which plate do you mean? The one that bolts on to back of block and goes over the shaft? If so that one was removed then installed again after the engine was mounted in.

I'm going to get a friend to turn the engine over by hand and get under the car, get my head right in the bay etc and just basically check everywhere I can to try and hear the noise
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Re: My 3dr black GTi
« Reply #54 on: July 26, 2015, 06:56:56 pm »
I'm sure you'll see the problem once your under there and your assistant is turning it over - but I still would of wanted to turn it over myself to feel how difficult the obstruction felt to pass over for good measure as it could be loose item in the fly wheel eg a spring and you wouldn't feel anything just hear it at speed -  lets know the out come

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Re: My 3dr black GTi
« Reply #55 on: July 27, 2015, 06:21:13 pm »
Well the sound is definitely coming from where I suspected. Also when looking threw the removable inspection panel you can see the back of the flywheel and see where the plate has been rubbing on the back of it.

So preparation for the gearbox removal got started today.



Oh and I did this...



I think it looks a lot better. Could have done without this miss hap but things done always go to plan. It will all be sorted soon. Hopefully I'll be driving her by weekend.
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Re: My 3dr black GTi
« Reply #56 on: July 28, 2015, 08:14:34 pm »
Managed to buy these off a mate today  :happy2:


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Re: My 3dr black GTi
« Reply #57 on: August 01, 2015, 04:27:16 pm »
Well it's all running and driving finally!!
Had the day off yesterday so set about it on my own and got it all done by 4ish. Took it for a quick drive, shower then stuck with the Mrs all night lol
Covered about 100 miles in it today and all feels well, EML came on but fault indicates 2nd lambda so it must be because of the decat.

I'll get some pictures up when I've thrown a bucket of water over it.
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Re: My 3dr black GTi
« Reply #58 on: August 01, 2015, 05:36:00 pm »
Good job mate.  :congrats:

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Re: My 3dr black GTi
« Reply #59 on: August 30, 2015, 04:08:46 pm »
Well not posted for a while.. Just thought I'd add a couple of pictures I took the other day. Some w*nker bumped into the back bumper in a local tesco carpark and drove off without leaving any details so I now need to get it repaired  :fighting:

All has been well since she's been on the road, no issues to report. Covered nearly 2000 trouble free miles! And got a Nurburgring trip booked for 11th September  :happy2:

I've bought a catback exhaust that I still need to fit, also fitted a genuine VW touch phone kit and got a cruise control stalk to put in. Still need to fit my brakes before leaving for the ring too!













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