Edition 30 on Bluefin - VAGCOM results

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subaru26675:
My car was looked at tonight by Alan (DJ Horace) and he has posted the following findings, hopefully someone can shed some light on the fact than the map is not asking for full boost until well over 4000rpm. The car has the bluefin map.

I had a look at this car tonight and VAGCOM showed no faults other than the following

Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No: 1K0 035 186 AD
Component: Radio GR0 034 0033
Revision: 0003404S Serial number: VWZ2Z2H6205447
Coding: 0040402
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200

1 Fault Found:
00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41)
014 - Defective - Intermittent

As this has nowt to do with the symptoms mentioned above, we went for a wee blast and did a couple of log runs.

From what I can see, the car is doing everything that is being asked of it. The boost does not seem to increase at any great rate until after 4000rpm as can be seen below;

Friday 11 December 2009 19:58:24
1K0 907 115 T 2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0010

Group A: '003 Group B: '115 Group C: '230
Engine Speed Intake Air Mass Throttle Drive Ignition Engine Speed Engine Load Boost Pressure Boost Pressure Rail Pressure Rail Pressure Rail Pressure
TIME Angle Sensor 1 Timing Angle TIME (specified) (actual) TIME (specified) (actual) Difference
Marker STAMP /min g/s % Â°ATDC STAMP /min % mbar mbar STAMP bar bar bar
0.27 2600 36.69 16.5 24.8 0.01 2600 83.5 1110 1430 0.14 109.61 109.94 -0.33
0.66 2600 20.94 13.7 27.8 0.39 2600 60.2 790 1410 0.51 102.32 102.82 -0.5
43.58 1720 5.67 4.3 -6 43.7 1720 15 270 1040 43.83 70.92 70.92 0
43.97 1680 5.53 4.3 -6 44.1 1680 15 270 1040 44.22 70.8 70.8 0
44.34 1680 5.47 4.3 -6 44.49 1680 14.3 270 1040 44.61 70.84 70.84 0
44.74 1640 5.31 4.3 -6 44.86 1640 15 270 1040 45 70.77 70.77 0
45.13 1640 5.36 4.3 -6 45.25 1600 15 270 1040 45.38 70.78 70.78 0
45.52 1600 5.22 3.9 -6 45.64 1600 15 270 1040 45.76 70.76 70.76 0
45.89 1600 5.22 3.9 -6 46.03 1600 15 270 1040 46.16 69.43 69.65 -0.22
46.28 1600 5.11 3.9 -5.3 46.41 1560 15 270 1040 46.55 68.24 68.31 -0.08
46.67 1600 5.08 3.9 7.5 46.8 1600 14.3 270 1040 46.92 67.14 67.09 0.04
47.06 1560 5.25 4.3 14.3 47.19 1600 15 290 1040 47.32 66.01 65.38 0.62
47.44 1560 6.17 4.7 14.3 47.58 1600 17.3 320 1040 47.71 64.65 64.59 0.06
47.83 1600 7.28 5.9 14.3 47.95 1600 20.3 400 1030 48.1 63.08 62.86 0.22
48.22 1600 7.89 6.3 14.3 48.34 1600 22.6 410 1040 48.47 61.36 61.59 -0.24
48.61 1640 8.61 6.7 14.3 48.73 1640 24.1 430 1040 48.86 59.57 59.9 -0.33
48.98 1640 9.19 7.1 13.5 49.13 1680 25.6 640 1040 49.25 61.63 61.15 0.47
49.37 1720 18.83 13.3 16.5 49.5 1720 47.4 800 1040 49.64 66.66 66.98 -0.32
49.77 1760 19.14 13.3 26.3 49.89 1800 49.6 850 1060 50.02 72.01 72.27 -0.27
50.16 1840 23.56 16.5 26.3 50.28 1880 58.6 980 1080 50.41 77.64 77.84 -0.2
50.53 1920 27.5 19.2 25.5 50.67 1960 64.7 990 1120 50.8 83.89 83.38 0.51
50.92 2000 30 19.6 24.8 51.05 2080 66.9 1000 1160 51.19 90.35 90.52 -0.18
51.32 2160 34.11 20.4 24.8 51.44 2160 71.4 990 1200 51.56 94.86 94.69 0.17
51.71 2280 36.61 20 23.3 51.83 2320 72.2 990 1250 51.96 98.26 98.43 -0.17
52.08 2400 37.36 20 23.3 52.22 2440 78.9 1310 1280 52.35 106.01 108.24 -2.23
52.47 2560 58.28 31 21 52.59 2600 103.8 1570 1390 52.74 109.51 109.29 0.22
52.86 2760 72.47 56.5 15 52.99 2800 120.3 1570 1510 53.11 109.92 109.49 0.43
53.25 2960 77.36 46.7 18.8 53.37 3040 120.3 1550 1530 53.5 109.98 110.59 -0.61
53.62 3160 82.39 40.4 16.5 53.77 3240 120.3 1550 1540 53.89 109.99 109.49 0.5
54.01 3400 89.5 41.2 17.3 54.14 3480 124.8 1560 1550 54.28 109.99 110.38 -0.39
54.41 3640 102.36 72.2 16.5 54.53 3720 131.6 1610 1550 54.65 109.99 111.04 -1.05
54.8 3880 110.25 99.6 20.3 54.92 3960 132.3 1720 1560 55.05 109.99 111.17 -1.18
55.17 4120 120.67 99.6 18.8 55.32 4200 136.8 1900 1600 55.44 109.99 109.57 0.42
55.56 4360 150.33 99.6 15.8 55.69 4440 165.4 2060 1920 55.83 109.99 109.08 0.91
55.95 4680 185.61 99.6 9 56.08 4760 187.2 2150 2160 56.21 109.99 111.97 -1.98
56.35 5000 193.53 99.6 12 56.47 5120 183.5 2190 2150 56.59 109.99 111.42 -1.43
56.72 5240 202.86 99.6 12.8 56.86 5360 182 2170 2120 56.98 109.99 108.98 1.01
57.11 5560 217.72 99.6 12.8 57.24 5600 182.7 2170 2120 57.38 109.99 110.43 -0.44
57.5 5840 228.11 99.6 12.8 57.63 5880 182 2190 2110 57.75 109.99 111.46 -1.47
57.89 6080 234.03 99.6 13.5 58.02 6160 178.9 2130 2080 58.14 109.99 109.46 0.53
58.27 6320 238.94 99.6 15.8 58.41 6400 175.9 2100 2070 58.53 109.99 111.21 -1.22
58.66 6560 240.94 99.6 18 58.78 6600 171.4 2070 2050 58.92 109.99 115.24 -5.25
59.05 6760 244.33 98.8 18 59.17 6840 169.9 1680 2050 59.3 105.99 112.42 -6.43
59.44 6600 19.25 8.6 12 59.56 6360 13.5 290 1580 59.69 109.38 109.38 0
59.82 5840 15.86 12.2 9 59.95 5240 77.4 1980 1120 60.08 110 103.97 6.03
60.2 5120 181.97 91.8 15.8 60.33 5120 158.6 900 1950 60.47 95.81 98.55 -2.74
60.59 4960 10.67 7.1 3.8 60.72 4760 14.3 280 1400 60.84 103.23 103.23 0
60.98 4360 11.61 9.8 0 61.11 4160 16.5 290 1180 61.23 104.44 104.44 0
61.36 3800 13.58 9.4 -2.3 61.5 3320 17.3 300 1120 61.63 105.31 105.31 0
61.75 3200 10.86 7.8 -3.8 61.88 3200 15.8 300 1100 62.02 105.95 105.95 0
62.14 3200 11.53 8.2 -3.8 62.26 3200 15.8 300 1090 62.39 106.65 106.65 0
62.53 3160 11.56 8.2 -3.8 62.66 3160 16.5 300 1090 62.78 107.21 107.21 0
62.91 3120 11.14 7.8 -3.8 63.05 3120 16.5 300 1090 63.17 107.63 107.63 0
63.3 3080 11.22 7.8 -3.8 63.42 3080 16.5 300 1090 63.56 108.22 108.22 0
63.69 3080 10.58 7.8 -3.8 63.81 3040 16.5 300 1090 63.94 108.59 108.59 0
64.08 3040 10.75 7.8 -3.8 64.21 3040 15.8 300 1090 64.33 109.01 109.01 0
147.61 2240 15.06 8.6 30.8 147.34 2080 53.4 870 1090 147.47 69.81 69.65 0.16
147.98 1960 6.75 5.1 -4.5 147.73 2160 23.3 280 1120 147.86 66.91 67.72 -0.81
148.38 1480 21.56 14.1 8.3 148.12 1920 16.5 590 1070 148.25 68.59 67.01 1.58
148.76 1680 22.33 14.9 22.5 148.5 1600 57.9 890 1080 148.64 73.01 72.55 0.46
149.16 1840 24.06 15.7 25.5 148.89 1720 58.6 930 1110 149.02 78.17 78.77 -0.61
149.53 2000 26.89 17.3 26.3 149.28 1880 58.6 950 1130 149.41 84.03 83.95 0.08
149.92 2160 26.56 15.7 26.3 149.67 2080 62.4 920 1160 149.79 87.56 88.71 -1.16
150.32 2040 5.58 5.1 -6.8 150.05 2200 39.8 410 1170 150.19 82.89 85.82 -2.93
150.71 1840 5.92 4.7 -6 150.44 1960 15.8 280 1120 150.56 81.31 81.37 -0.07
151.08 1560 7.69 9.8 12 150.83 1680 15.8 270 1080 150.95 80.09 79.88 0.21
151.47 1560 17.44 11.8 21.8 151.22 1600 39.8 730 1060 151.34 77.61 77.04 0.57
151.86 1640 15.78 10.6 28.5 151.59 1640 47.4 770 1080 151.73 74.25 73.8 0.44
152.25 1720 15.81 10.6 30 151.98 1680 43.6 690 1090 152.11 73.61 73.74 -0.13
152.62 1800 30.89 25.1 21 152.37 1720 42.9 810 1090 152.5 75.93 75.07 0.86
153.02 1920 41.61 54.5 18 152.77 1840 88 1450 1110 152.89 80.85 80.59 0.26
153.41 2080 52.14 71.4 16.5 153.14 1960 97 1520 1210 153.28 86.16 86.17 -0.02
153.8 2280 64.06 72.2 13.5 153.53 2160 109.8 1550 1350 153.66 91.01 91.42 -0.42
154.17 2480 77.39 65.5 10.5 153.93 2360 124.8 1560 1520 154.04 96.44 96.75 -0.31
154.56 2720 79.67 54.1 11.3 154.31 2560 138.3 1560 1690 154.43 101.51 102.09 -0.58
154.95 2960 83.53 39.2 14.3 154.69 2800 137.6 1560 1710 154.83 107.13 106.85 0.28
155.34 3160 85.28 37.6 18 155.08 3040 129.3 1530 1670 155.2 109.56 109.63 -0.07
155.72 3400 91.42 40 16.5 155.47 3240 127.1 1530 1610 155.59 109.94 110.31 -0.37
156.11 3600 102.36 64.7 18.8 155.86 3440 127.1 1550 1580 155.98 109.99 109.41 0.57
156.5 3800 109.39 99.2 19.5 156.23 3680 134.6 1580 1570 156.38 109.99 110.48 -0.49
156.89 4040 117.61 99.6 20.3 156.63 3880 134.6 1680 1570 156.75 109.99 109.54 0.45
157.27 4280 130.53 99.6 18.8 157.01 4120 136.8 1820 1590 157.14 109.99 108.32 1.67
157.66 4520 182.83 99.6 10.5 157.4 4320 148.1 2000 1700 157.53 109.99 109.2 0.79
158.05 4800 193.31 99.6 7.5 157.78 4600 182.7 2090 2100 157.93 109.99 111.47 -1.48
158.44 5080 192.97 99.6 12.8 158.17 4920 186.5 2160 2180 158.3 109.99 110.97 -0.98
158.82 5320 207.56 99.6 10.5 158.56 5160 179.7 2160 2110 158.69 109.99 107.52 2.47
159.21 5600 219.36 99.6 12.8 158.95 5440 182 2140 2100 159.08 109.99 110.33 -0.34
159.59 5840 228.22 99.6 11.3 159.33 5640 182 2150 2100 159.47 109.99 112.13 -2.14
159.98 6080 232.14 99.6 13.5 159.72 5920 182.7 2160 2090 159.84 109.99 110.32 -0.33
160.36 6280 236.86 99.6 15 160.11 6160 178.2 2110 2070 160.23 109.99 107.74 2.25
160.75 6520 242.36 99.6 18 160.5 6360 175.2 2080 2070 160.63 109.99 111.46 -1.47
161.14 6720 244.56 98 18 160.88 6600 172.2 2070 2050 161.02 109.99 113.35 -3.36
161.53 6840 234.69 52.5 9 161.27 6760 175.9 1700 2050 161.39 109.99 114.54 -4.55
161.91 6720 56.31 8.2 13.5 161.65 6920 142.1 1420 2110 161.78 109.99 110.69 -0.7
162.3 5920 16.97 12.2 9.8 162.05 6400 15 290 1500 162.17 124.82 124.82 0
162.69 5080 16.36 11 3.8 162.42 5640 17.3 290 1220 162.56 125.36 125.36 0
163.08 4960 17.36 11.4 3 162.82 5000 17.3 280 1140 162.94 125.56 125.56 0
163.45 4920 17.69 11.4 3 163.2 4960 16.5 280 1120 163.33 125.65 125.65 0
163.84 4600 17.08 11.4 1.5 163.6 4880 16.5 280 1100 163.72 125.65 125.65 0
164.24 4040 15.14 10.2 -1.5 163.97 4400 17.3 290 1090 164.11 125.48 125.48 0
164.63 3440 13.28 8.6 -3 164.36 3840 18 290 1100 164.49 125.45 125.45 0
165 3080 10.61 7.5 -3.8 164.75 3000 18 300 1100 164.88 125.43 125.43 0
165.39 3040 10.5 7.8 -3.8 165.14 3040 16.5 300 1100 165.27 125.36 125.36 0
165.78 3000 10.17 7.5 -3.8 165.52 3040 15.8 300 1090 165.66 125.37 125.37 0
166.17 2960 10.33 7.5 -4.5 165.91 3000 15.8 300 1090 166.03 125.25 125.25 0
166.54 2960 10.53 7.5 -4.5 166.3 2960 16.5 300 1090 166.42 125.19 125.19 0
166.94 2920 10.42 7.5 -4.5 166.69 2920 15.8 300 1090 166.82 125.13 125.13 0
167.33 2880 10.03 7.5 -4.5 167.06 2920 15.8 290 1080 167.2 125.16 125.16 0
167.72 2840 10 7.1 -4.5 167.45 2880 15.8 290 1080 167.58 125.04 125.04 0
168.09 2800 9.69 7.1 -4.5 167.84 2840 15.8 290 1080 167.96 124.9 124.9 0
168.48 2800 9.69 7.1 -4.5 168.23 2800 15.8 290 1080 168.36 124.89 124.89 0
168.88 2760 9.64 7.1 -4.5 168.61 2800 15.8 290 1080 168.75 124.88 124.88 0
169.27 2760 9.61 7.1 -4.5 169 2760 15.8 290 1080 169.13 122.2 120.81 1.38
169.64 2720 9.67 7.1 -3.8 169.39 2720 15.8 290 1070 169.51 120.07 117.99 2.08
170.03 2680 9.36 7.1 -4.5 169.78 2720 15.8 290 1070 169.9 118.04 118.98 -0.95
170.42 2680 9.31 7.1 7.5 170.16 2680 15.8 290 1070 170.3 115.95 116.47 -0.52
170.81 2640 9.19 6.7 -2.3 170.55 2680 15.8 290 1060 170.67 113.87 114.63 -0.77
171.18 2640 9.33 6.7 -2.3 170.94 2640 15.8 290 1060 171.06 115.19 115.19 0
171.58 2600 9.19 6.7 -2.3 171.33 2640 15.8 290 1070 171.45 115.42 115.42 0
171.97 2600 8.92 6.7 -4.5 171.7 2600 15.8 290 1070 171.84 115.64 115.64 0
172.36 2560 8.78 6.7 -4.5 172.09 2560 15.8 290 1070 172.22 115.85 115.85 0
172.74 2560 8.44 6.3 -3 172.48 2560 15.8 290 1070 172.61 113.23 111.83 1.4
173.13 2520 8.64 6.3 0 172.87 2520 15.8 280 1060 173 111.2 111.21 -0.01
173.52 2520 8.67 6.3 7.5 173.25 2520 15.8 280 1060 173.39 109.34 109.61 -0.27
173.91 2480 9.75 7.1 18 173.64 2520 15.8 310 1060 173.76 107.51 107.1 0.41
174.28 2480 11.83 8.2 17.3 174.03 2480 18 390 1050 174.16 105.33 105.05 0.28
174.67 2480 11.67 8.2 16.5 174.42 2480 21.8 390 1050 174.55 102.95 103.07 -0.12
175.06 2440 13.22 9.4 16.5 174.79 2480 21.8 400 1060 174.94 100.2 100.23 -0.03
175.45 2440 13.83 9.4 15.8 175.19 2440 24.8 440 1060 175.31 97.5 97.3 0.2
175.83 2440 13.61 9.4 15.8 175.57 2440 24.8 440 1060 175.7 94.47 94.2 0.26
176.22 2440 13.36 9.4 15.8 175.97 2440 25.6 440 1060 176.1 91.73 91.84 -0.11
176.61 2440 13.61 9.4 15.8 176.34 2440 25.6 450 1070 176.48 88.78 88.25 0.53
177 2440 13.42 9.4 15.8 176.74 2440 25.6 450 1070 176.86 86.21 86.02 0.18

Knowing how boost comes in on a Revo and GIAC car, this does not seem normal. As you can see the requested and actual boost are fairly well matched, and the requested boost is not going past 1 Bar until after 4000rpm. There is no shortage of fuel either.

Is it normal for a Bluefin map to only ask for boost after 4000 rpm? If so, it seems a little strange to me given that the spool point is way before this in the rev range.

Answers on a post card please

PS - If someone can tell me if there is a quote function to list log files properly, i will do so. It was a little hard posting the end of this message as the text seems to keep jumping in the box as it is scrolled way down in the message window, so sorry for any typos and crap spelling in this post

Poppa Dom:
PM me - I'll send you my email address and you can email me the csv file, looking at that on screen ain't easy! :xmassmiley:

Hedge:

--- Quote from: DomT on December 11, 2009, 11:02:58 pm ---PM me - I'll send you my email address and you can email me the csv file, looking at that on screen ain't easy! :xmassmiley:

--- End quote ---

Yes I tried as well. :confused:
Pass it on Dom if you don't mind. I can probably dig out some stage 1 logs.

john_o:
replaced SC with REVO .......

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9699.msg150846#msg150846

:happy2:

cossy:
is it the right map? ie the old DSG one?

SC sent several wrong ones to me and others on manual Gbox.

Mine used to boost after 4k only, with the correct map all the way through.

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