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How can I remove the sound pack?
« on: December 12, 2009, 07:15:16 pm »
I have the premium sound pack which is quite good, but since I have upgraded from RCD500 to RCD510, the output is too loud. VW have clearly put a MUCH louder amp in the new head unit, so the separate power amp is not needed. It means that I can't put the volume up more than half way.

I want to remove the amp and do without it. Does anyone know if this can be done? I have unplugged it, but then I get no output at all (obvious!). Would I need to rewire the whole audio system to remove it?

Can you get a 'pass though' connector so that the amp can be removed and the connectors put together? I have tried to do this myself with a few wires and it does work, but I don't know which pins are which speakers and there are 20 connections to match! 20x20= a lot of possible permutations.

I have dismantled the amp in the hopes of finding a gain control, but there's nothing, so I had to put it back in  :sad1:

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Re: How can I remove the sound pack?
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2009, 07:18:01 pm »
Have you coded the RCD510 so it knows it has the sound pack connected???

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Re: How can I remove the sound pack?
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2009, 07:20:03 pm »
Have you coded the RCD510 so it knows it has the sound pack connected???
Didn't know it could be.

As far as I'm aware, the amp is not available with the 3rd gen head units on new cars.

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Re: How can I remove the sound pack?
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2009, 07:22:30 pm »
When you go into the Radio coding there is an option to tell the head unit the type of system your running, like standard speakers, soundpack or Dynaudio.

It's a 30 second job if you have access to VCDS  :happy2:

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Re: How can I remove the sound pack?
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2009, 07:25:37 pm »
When you go into the Radio coding there is an option to tell the head unit the type of system your running, like standard speakers, soundpack or Dynaudio.

It's a 30 second job if you have access to VCDS  :happy2:
Nice one, thanks mate. I'll see if I can can my friendly neighbourhood forum member to take a look for me  :grin:

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Re: How can I remove the sound pack?
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2009, 07:46:32 pm »
No problem, glad to be of some assistance  :happy2:

PS - I have moved this to the Car audio section as I may be of more help to someone else in the section in the future  :santa:

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Re: How can I remove the sound pack?
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2009, 08:21:52 pm »
i did this to my rns510 as i have the soundpack and all is fine after  :happy2:

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Re: How can I remove the sound pack?
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2009, 09:24:29 am »
Well, Mortygttdi came round with VCDS and we looked at this for ages. The RCD510 will not accept re-coding for any of the sound pack options. No matter what combination we tried, it just gave is an out of range error.

In the end, Darren just turned the loudness option off and it is better, however it's not perfect. We could not come up with any reason why the head unit would not accept re-coding. It worked fine for things like turning on or off the external CD changer option, just nothing to do with speakers  :sad1:

I'm now looking at removing the amp again.

All I need is the pin outs on the amp connectors and I can make a 'pass though' adapter.

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Re: How can I remove the sound pack?
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2009, 11:19:04 pm »
Where is the loudness option ?

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Re: How can I remove the sound pack?
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2009, 01:13:50 pm »
Where is the loudness option ?

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You have to enable test mode with VCDS, then you hold down the setup button for about 5 seconds until the correct menu appears.

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Re: How can I remove the sound pack?
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2010, 05:08:26 pm »

Garth, Have you been able to recode the RCD 510 unit so it knows not to use the dynaudio output feature???

I have just bought the same headunit and I'm pretty sure my 06 GTI hasn't got this option either.


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Re: How can I remove the sound pack?
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2010, 05:54:49 pm »
These are the options that are available

Sound System Correction

-Sound System not installed
-Volkswagen Sound System (DDP DSP)
-Skoda Soundsystem (CAN DSP)
-Dynaudio Sound System (DDP DSP)
-Volkswagen Sound System (BAP DSP)
-Dynaudio Sound System (BAP DSP)


Speaker Channels

-Sound System (active Speakers)

-2 Speaker Channels (2 passive Front Speakers)
-4 Speaker Channels (2 passive Speakers each Front and Rear)


Treble Speaker Monitoring

-Treble Speaker Monitoring deactivated (Sound System)
-Treble Speaker Monitoring for Front Speakers active
-Treble Speaker Monitoring for Rear Speakers active
-Treble Speaker Monitoring for Front & Rear Speakers active

Bold ones are for the Dynaudio
« Last Edit: January 24, 2010, 05:56:30 pm by cameluk »

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Re: How can I remove the sound pack?
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2010, 11:03:27 pm »
Excuse my stupidity but is the above list options accesible through the unit its self or via VCDS and what do the highlighted options relate too?

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Re: How can I remove the sound pack?
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2010, 11:05:56 pm »
Excuse my stupidity but is the above list options accesible through the unit its self or via VCDS and what do the highlighted options relate too?

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They are only accessible via vag com mate. The ones that are highlighted are for if you have the VW soundpack installed. (dynaudio)
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Re: How can I remove the sound pack?
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2010, 11:12:15 pm »
Excuse my stupidity but is the above list options accesible through the unit its self or via VCDS and what do the highlighted options relate too?

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They are only accessible via vag com mate. The ones that are highlighted are for if you have the VW soundpack installed. (dynaudio)
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So if I dont have the dynoaudio speakers/amp set up I should select the other options on the unit via VAG COM/ VCDS?????  Any chance you could point out which ones?

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