GTI vs Normal.

[hashbrown]

Alright so here goes nothing,

Im only 19 and I have my test soon, Ive always wanted a MK5 golf for my first car. I mean come on, everyone on this forum knows how amazing they are!!!

Now, with me being only 19 Its hard for me to afford a GTI or even GT and dont even get me started on insurance.

So my question is, Correct me if im wrong but GTI's are lowered more than normal MK5 Golfs? As I was thinking to just get a normal golf and add BBS deep dish alloys. (I love golfs with BBS's on them!)

Similar to this. http://gyazo.com/03d4b5c044d40ddb92ea72933d01a69a

However someone told me because of the golf being higher up than a GTI it wont look good? As anyone got any standard golfs with BBS's on them so I could see?

Thank you 

[white91]

I will have a GTI suspension setup for sale soon

[Andy]

Thing the gti and the gt had slightly lower suspension on them,but if you are putting bbs alloys on you will need to inform your insurance company,I have seen 19" on a gti and looks okay

[RedGolfDom]

You also realise them wheels will set you back around 2k as well

[samiul11]

Im 19 with a GTI and trust me insurance is possible 

[dansmith180]

Im 19 with a GTI and trust me insurance is possible 

I was also 19 when I got my GTI however I already had 2 years NCB so it was affordable. I'm assuming this isn't your first car? Those first couple of years is where they really f*ck you.

Also to be honest I wouldn't recommend a GTI as a first car because you'll probably crash it. Buy a cheap car for at least the first year save your money and get the GTI next year. I made many stupid mistakes in my first car, the only reason I didn't crash it was because I already had 2 years road craft on motorbikes and probably blind luck as well  .

Maybe just get a MK5 1,4 for now and wait for the GTI, it sucks but will be worth it 

[th3_f15t]

Another thing to consider is a normal Golf can't have just GTI suspension fitted as the shocks are a different width so you'll need to fit new hubs too which is a big job. Get something small engined and reliable for a year or so while you save up, I know you'll hear that all the time but it comes from people who were once where you were.

Also, for insurance, don't bother with the usual comparison sites, get onto the phone and give either HIC, Greenlight, Sky Insurance or Adrian Flux a call, they're proper brokers who'll get you a much better policy and price.

[Wash]

You also realise them wheels will set you back around 2k as well

The wheels in the pictures are reps mate, probably only £300-400. A set of genuine 18" BBS splits will be about 2k though.

[Ricky123]

It's always possible to insure anything regardless of age but it's the price of that insurance.

I'd recommend a 1.9tdi 105bhp mk5 golf, the last one of them I had ended up being cheaper to insure than the 1.4 or 1.6 fsi models.
Depending on your budget then I'd try and get the later Match spec model as they come with pretty much all the toys and colour coded door strips, If you can't get one of those then I think the SE is next level down which is the one I had. Mine was a 56plate and had some decent extras.

With a remap mine felt like it would pull a house down and gave a lot of cars a run for there money (no joke)

At 19 years old you've got plenty of time for GTi's, get on the road and get your no claims built up, There worth so much in the long run.

[samiul11]

Im 19 with a GTI and trust me insurance is possible 

I was also 19 when I got my GTI however I already had 2 years NCB so it was affordable. I'm assuming this isn't your first car? Those first couple of years is where they really f*ck you.

Also to be honest I wouldn't recommend a GTI as a first car because you'll probably crash it. Buy a cheap car for at least the first year save your money and get the GTI next year. I made many stupid mistakes in my first car, the only reason I didn't crash it was because I already had 2 years road craft on motorbikes and probably blind luck as well  .

Maybe just get a MK5 1,4 for now and wait for the GTI, it sucks but will be worth it 

Yeh i was driving a 1.6 Astra for two years and must admit did some pretty stupid things with that car 

[Ricky123]

That was my first car at 18... It taught me to drive lol
I think I'm lucky to still be here looking back 

[Matthewsimone]

Got to agree with the comments above on this one
Now been driving for 13 years so insurance isn't an issue anymore

When i was 17/18 I had a Nova SR on my dads insurance, desperately wanted the GTE or GSI but as said thinking back im glad I never got my hands on a Gte as I was a idiot at times and also wonder how im still alive today too 
If id been handed my Gti back then with that mentality id almost certainly have killed myself or someone else 

Not all younger drivers are like this but many are unfortunately
17 is too young to drive, cant be trusted with a pint, cigarette or to vote in an election but your ok to drive a potential killing machine 

[AJP]

The 1.9 105 tdi Ricky mentioned is a good option. My ex missus had one, specifically over a 2.0 tdi as it was much cheaper to insure.

Plenty of torque, and I'd imagine much more drivable than a pointless 1.4.

If you can get some affordable quotes on one of those with coilovers and aftermarket alloys you'll be laughing.

Only problem is there are much less of the 1.9 cars to choose from.

Oh and those Novas.. Didn't we all want a GSI???!!!! Haha! Brings back memories! There's a line in an early Streets tune...

"Tony's got a new motor, SR Nova, driving like a joyrider"

Sums up those years  

(Apologies for topic drift!)

[Ricky123]

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There's a couple to look at. I wouldn't be majorly concerned about mileage as long as there not stupidly high. I covered over 60k in mine and they were hard miles, my car religiously got driven within an inch of its life a couple of times a week atleast lol and it was mapped.

Mine also had a a noisy turbo (owl noise) throughout the whole time I owned it, never got any worse and I didn't feel any difference in power, oil consumption or mpg etc

Also driven sensibly I could get close to 700 miles per tank with the 5 speed gearbox. I never saw any less than 500-550 miles per tank no matter how it was driven.

[hashbrown]

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http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=221819668353&globalID=EBAY-GB

There's a couple to look at. I wouldn't be majorly concerned about mileage as long as there not stupidly high. I covered over 60k in mine and they were hard miles, my car religiously got driven within an inch of its life a couple of times a week atleast lol and it was mapped.

Mine also had a a noisy turbo (owl noise) throughout the whole time I owned it, never got any worse and I didn't feel any difference in power, oil consumption or mpg etc

Also driven sensibly I could get close to 700 miles per tank with the 5 speed gearbox. I never saw any less than 500-550 miles per tank no matter how it was driven.

Yeh man, thanks for the reply.
I just wanted to ask what you meant by high mileage? Like Ive always assumed over 100k is bad. Are VW Golfs relible past 100k?

Because theres this: http://www.gumtree.com/p/volkswagen/mk5-vw-golf-gt-tdi-gti-replica-200bhp/1125734102

Its a 2.0 diesel but just a GTI replica but the issue is it has 140k miles, is it really gonna last me a few years?