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Re: Milltek & Stage 2 Map.............Done!
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2008, 08:53:59 pm »
^^^^

Off topic I know (just for a moment) - But Babes who look like that are capable of modifying all sorts of things about you! You become like putty in their hands (if you get lucky!).

Reminds me - I was playing a small gig in Exeter last year and normally play with my eyes closed....I opened them for a moment and instantly spied a pretty brunette with a short T-Shirt top....Black with the words in glitter:
SERIAL MANIPULATOR - I thought she was both lethal and cool.
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Re: Milltek & Stage 2 Map.............Done!
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2008, 11:45:13 pm »
Nice one Steve, welcome to the Stage 2 club.. How you finding the Milltek? Been lookng through any tunnels yet? :grin:

Oh and Red, i'm sure you look for any excuse to put a post of some fit piece up...  :xmaslaugh:
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Re: Milltek & Stage 2 Map.............Done!
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2008, 12:05:16 am »
nice one Steve , as stated by TC thats an enormous area under curve difference.
Superchips always were conservative about that for DSG boxes, any idea why that thinking has changed?
I bet its silly quick now  :happy2:
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Re: Milltek & Stage 2 Map.............Done!
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2008, 01:06:33 am »
Quote from: Vtec Abuser on December 19, 2008, 11:45:13 pm
Oh and Red, i'm sure you look for any excuse to put a post of some fit piece up...  :xmaslaugh:

.... :laugh: - I'm sure you would rather I posted pics of my wheels instead then :xmaslaugh:



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Re: Milltek & Stage 2 Map.............Done!
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2008, 01:08:54 am »
....

Quickly getting back on topic (before I get banned!) - All the well established tuners take DSG limitations into account - The rough rule-of-thumb is a max of around 300 ft lb / 400 Nm torque. It's the torque and not the bhp which potentially screws DSG gearboxes.

^ Most of us know that, but for the benefit of those reading who don't.

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Re: Milltek & Stage 2 Map.............Done!
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2008, 07:10:02 am »
Glad to hear that you've got the Milly fitted Steve! Looking forward to seeing/hearing it at the pod!  :smiley: :smiley:
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Re: Milltek & Stage 2 Map.............Done!
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2008, 10:08:11 am »
Quote from: john_o on December 20, 2008, 12:05:16 am
nice one Steve , as stated by TC thats an enormous area under curve difference.
Superchips always were conservative about that for DSG boxes, any idea why that thinking has changed?
I bet its silly quick now  :happy2:

Cheers John_O, yep just complete my first long drive from home down to work in central london and it's like a totally different car  :happy2:

From what I understand it's not a change in thinking its down to new development they have done as previously they couldn't overcome a torque limitation the Bosch ME9 ECU was applying when combined with the DSG box.

Quote from: Vtec Abuser on December 19, 2008, 11:45:13 pm
Nice one Steve, welcome to the Stage 2 club.. How you finding the Milltek? Been lookng through any tunnels yet? :grin:

Oh and Red, i'm sure you look for any excuse to put a post of some fit piece up...  :xmaslaugh:

Thanks Ben. Only a couple of short underpasses so far but will be going out of town under the A40 Hanger Lane tunnel tonight which should be fun  :driver:

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Re: Milltek & Stage 2 Map.............Done!
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2008, 10:09:57 am »
Quote from: WhiteGTI on December 20, 2008, 07:10:02 am
Glad to hear that you've got the Milly fitted Steve! Looking forward to seeing/hearing it at the pod!  :smiley: :smiley:

Thanks Chris  :happy2:

The tail pipe's are sitting a little high so I am going give it couple of days to see if it's drops a bit otherwise it's going back in for some adjustment, but the sound is truely awesome  :xmassmiley:
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Re: Milltek & Stage 2 Map.............Done!
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2008, 10:36:05 am »
Quote from: SteveP on December 20, 2008, 10:08:11 am
Quote from: john_o on December 20, 2008, 12:05:16 am
nice one Steve , as stated by TC thats an enormous area under curve difference.
Superchips always were conservative about that for DSG boxes, any idea why that thinking has changed?

From what I understand it's not a change in thinking its down to new development they have done as previously they couldn't overcome a torque limitation the Bosch ME9 ECU was applying when combined with the DSG box.

....Obviously Superchips know what they are doing (though T_T wouldn't agree!) but is it a good idea to lift the torque limitation on a DSG?

The DSG box of tricks is exactly the same for both GTI and Ed30 as I understand it.
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Re: Milltek & Stage 2 Map.............Done!
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2008, 10:58:12 am »
^^^ I know what you’re saying Robin and that was exactly might thoughts but I got to spend time with right people at SC (including the technical director, development team and engineers) to understand the process and the amount of testing and development that had already gone into this.

I didn't want to be a guinea pig and find I was going to be having problems further down the line due to being a bit over excited by big numbers.

My torque is only about the same level as is quoted for Revo Stage 1 (IIRC) so I don't think it's massively high anyway, but is a massive increase over my previous map.

Also looking at the graph the way the curve starts upto about 2.5K is very similar to the previous limited map (and very similar to a pre-map graph I have as well) so I feel happy the way it's being delivered gradually into the mid range is going to be OK for me and the DSG box.

In addition I will also be getting more frequent DSG services done as a bit of precaution.

But like anything when modifying a car I know and understand the risk’s involved.  :happy2:
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Re: Milltek & Stage 2 Map.............Done!
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2008, 10:59:53 am »
As I said yesterday congrats on the extra neddies!!

I just came back through the Queensway tunnel in Brum with the windows down  :evilgrin: Awesome  :evilgrin: Enjoy it fella, that noise is addictive!  :driver:
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Re: Milltek & Stage 2 Map.............Done!
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2008, 12:02:41 pm »
I have got the same set up as you stevep but think i must have the previous stage 2 map as mid range pull does not seem that aggressive, still very smooth though.

will send them an email on monday see if I can get same map as a bit more torque can't do anyone any harm  :driver:

when I first got my milltek done I noticed the sound was rather crisp and raspy and sounded good, now after  a few thousand miles on it I get a deeper tone and more exhausty note still sounds sweet  :xmaslaugh:

the noise when u change from 2nd to 3rd nr the red line always puts a smile on my face

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Re: Milltek & Stage 2 Map.............Done!
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2008, 01:07:20 pm »
^^^^

The Milltek system takes at least a thousand miles to 'mature' as it gradually cokes up. You'll find its sound continues to develop in very subtle ways and has a very full repetoire of zorst music. I've now done nearly 60,000 miles on my Non-Resonated TBE Milltek.

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Re: Milltek & Stage 2 Map.............Done!
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2008, 05:57:35 pm »
Great figures Steve.....Find a tunnel quick....a non-res Milly sounds immense when giving it the beans.  :happy2: :jumpmove:
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Re: Milltek & Stage 2 Map.............Done!
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2008, 06:09:05 pm »
Quote from: SteveP on December 20, 2008, 10:09:57 am
Quote from: WhiteGTI on December 20, 2008, 07:10:02 am
Glad to hear that you've got the Milly fitted Steve! Looking forward to seeing/hearing it at the pod!  :smiley: :smiley:

Thanks Chris  :happy2:

The tail pipe's are sitting a little high so I am going give it couple of days to see if it's drops a bit otherwise it's going back in for some adjustment, but the sound is truely awesome  :xmassmiley:

Yeah, I remember you commenting on my exhaust sitting low...took it back yesterday and they re-tightened one of the mounts and all is good again!  :smiley:
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