Looking at a GTI

[jbbhoy]

Looking to buy a GTI and few people saying shocking on fuel etc horror storys

theyre saying get a GT TDI, but its not a GTI isnt doesnt even come close GTI looks miles better

anyone help is it reallyu a greedy **** ?

[jbbhoy]

Also any tips on stuff tolook for when buying etc would be much appreciated any info would be good.

looking to spend no more than 7k 5door and a nice colour black candy white or something

[Gmaster]

Will do mid 30's fairly easy driven half sensible, not to bad really.
I wouldn't be worrying about mpg lots of other things to look out for.

[Rossimac]

Horror stories are relative to your ability to spend money on fuel. One man's 35mpg will be unacceptable to another man's 45mpg.

Who have you been talking to, though? For a 2.0ltr turbo, most here would average around the 28mpg marker or so. My current average over the past 400 miles is 30.7mpg. That is mostly winding B roads and inner-city travel with some motorway miles. To me, that's pretty good for a 200bhp car!

But again, that's shocking mpg for a person who is used to doing 50mpg+ in their 2.0tdi GT!

Honestly, the best way to look at fuel cost is to work out the yearly cost for the vehicle(s) and see the difference.

For example:

10,000 miles at 28mpg would cost £2000 using Super Unleaded at £1.23/l.

10,000 miles at 45mpg would cost £1202 using Diesel at £1.19/l.

So, that's £800 per year extra. £66 extra per month in fuel. Up to you if you can afford it.

Btw, the saving between 20mpg and 30mpg is MUCH greater than between 30mpg and 40mpg even though they are the same "mpg" difference.

[jbbhoy]

i have decided f*ck it i am going for the GTI, currently drive an absolute shed of a 52 plate fiesta that probably does 32MPG so i will just be filling the GTI as much as the fiesta not much difference i would think will just cost more to fill, but f*ck it the GTI is a weapon

what other things is there to look out for ?

hard trying to find the right GTI

[Kam88]

i have ed30 stage 1 307BHP i get about 300miles to a full tank i use it only as a run around and have to say never really drive it sensibly at all. My mate has a GT TDI and gets about 600-700 miles on a full tank but then hey i wanted a GTI and not  GT TDI if i wanted more economic car then i would off. I have to say the mileage i get out of my Edition30 is actually quiet good with what power it gives and puts a massive smile on my face. Used to have a 330ci BMW that used to get 200miles to the tank and that wasn't fast at all 

[jbbhoy]

Horror stories are relative to your ability to spend money on fuel. One man's 35mpg will be unacceptable to another man's 45mpg.

Who have you been talking to, though? For a 2.0ltr turbo, most here would average around the 28mpg marker or so. My current average over the past 400 miles is 30.7mpg. That is mostly winding B roads and inner-city travel with some motorway miles. To me, that's pretty good for a 200bhp car!

But again, that's shocking mpg for a person who is used to doing 50mpg+ in their 2.0tdi GT!

Honestly, the best way to look at fuel cost is to work out the yearly cost for the vehicle(s) and see the difference.

For example:

10,000 miles at 28mpg would cost £2000 using Super Unleaded at £1.23/l.

10,000 miles at 45mpg would cost £1202 using Diesel at £1.19/l.

So, that's £800 per year extra. £66 extra per month in fuel. Up to you if you can afford it.

Btw, the saving between 20mpg and 30mpg is MUCH greater than between 30mpg and 40mpg even though they are the same "mpg" difference.

cheers mate a can easily afford it from september to may just when that student loan stops a will struggle a wee bit a think but really wanting a GTI,

seen a post on a thread on here when a searched earlier saying your not really going to save much unless your doing above average miles but your post proves otherwise

[Rossimac]

Well, what that post is probably referencing is that generally a diesel will cost more initially on a comparable spec car (i.e. a 140bhp diesel Audi A4 vs a 140bhp petrol Audi A4) from factory. A GT TDI vs a GTI isn't a fair comparison as they're different cars when it comes to power output.

Judging the difference only on fuel economy and fill-up costs makes a diesel look especially attractive – but that’s why you need to consider the differences in purchase price, retained value, servicing costs and even insurance.

At 10,000 miles per year, my above calculation shows that you'd save £800 in fuel. If you bought a diesel and it cost £2400 more, over 3 years (based on 10,000 per year and the same servicing costs, retained value etc) both cars would work out the same in terms of economy.

Do 20,000 miles per year and the diesel wins. Simple really.

Also, and this is just a piece of personal advice and don't really hear it from anyone else, I try to work out a few "if this happened, could I afford it during my ownership"s.

Speculative examples I have looked at before are things outside of your control:

• fuel prices rocketing this time in 6 months
• unexpected servicing
• etc

Good luck. I'm sure you'll find a way to keep the GTI going in the summer months!

[Rossimac]

I went from a 2003 Focus 1.8 doing roughly 33mpg. I worked out the sums and realised I wouldn't see a big increase in my fuel bill and was presently affording it, so went for a GTI.

Was looking at a 2.0tdi 170bhp Audi A3 a few years back when I wasn't enjoying paying for a 33mpg car, but my circumstances changed and so looked at a Focus ST. 20mpg at 10,000 miles would have cost £2750  Not my cup of tea!

[jbbhoy]

I went from a 2003 Focus 1.8 doing roughly 33mpg. I worked out the sums and realised I wouldn't see a big increase in my fuel bill and was presently affording it, so went for a GTI.

Was looking at a 2.0tdi 170bhp Audi A3 a few years back when I wasn't enjoying paying for a 33mpg car, but my circumstances changed and so looked at a Focus ST. 20mpg at 10,000 miles would have cost £2750  Not my cup of tea!

Cheers for the imput mate, been thinking about GTI or GT TDI all night. Came to the conclusion that if i went GT TDI everytime i seen a GTI i would be thinking i want one, so GTI it has to be

[Matthewsimone]

Were fortunate enough to own both a 2008 Gti and a 2008 Gt tdi 140 (Gti is mine Tdi is Wifes)
Gti averages around 35mpg Tdi averages around 53mpg both mixed driving

Tdi for work horse Gti for fun 

Seriously though the Tdi is a cracking car but the Gti is simply excellent
Would sell the Tdi before the Gti no doubt about it

Also do remember yes the Gti's have a few niggly issues but the 2.0tdi is far from perfect, plenty of expensive common issues on those also
 

[GTIEagles]

I went from an economical Audi A4 1.9TDI to my Golf GTI and I was expecting to be slapped hard with the extra fuel bills but as I mainly use my car for my short commute to work and back I can hardly notice any difference in cost.

My theory is that because diesels take so long to get up to temparature they don't really start producing decent mpg until they are, I would often get to work in diesel and the temparature gauge had hardly moved at all whilst in the GTI it has already hit 90 degrees

I miss being able go to Essex and back to Devon in one tank though!

[jbbhoy]

Thanks for the input guys, still looking to find the right one.

What questions / things should I be looking for asking about

[Ditto]

I went from an economical Audi A4 1.9TDI to my Golf GTI and I was expecting to be slapped hard with the extra fuel bills but as I mainly use my car for my short commute to work and back I can hardly notice any difference in cost.

Snap, I've just gone from an Audi 1.9 estate to a GTi and the MPG isn't as bad as some make out. On my commute of mixed rural roads and traffic I get about 38 mpg (confirmed). If it wasn't for rush hour this would be over 40 mpg.

Since having bought the car it's averaged 36.8 over the last 2000 miles (according to the 2nd trip which hasn't been reset).

[ReflexRob]

Fuel consumption depends on 2 things:

1/ Driving style

2/ Maintenance / condition

I've had mine for 2 months now and Every tank full I get 36mpg out of with 50% Motorway, 40% rural and 10% urban roads.

Today on the way to work I drove pretty sedately and I got an indicated 42mpg.