MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Greenman on January 19, 2016, 01:43:31 pm
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So i ended up doing a 180 on the bristol ring road straight into the central reservation on sunday.
I had just had the sportlines fitted and was on a run to test them out, and as i was powering out of a corner the back end came around out of nowhere resulting in me crashing backwards into the central reservation.
Back bumper is all smashed up and one of the rear wheels is now pointing out on an angle. I managed to drive it home but the back end was proper twitchy.
Has anyone fitted the sportlines onto standard shocks and had any issues like this? My fitter had to fit 2 new top mounts as he said the others broke when fitting. I sort of suspect they were fitted incorrectly or i hit some black ice or oil on the road.
Got a fiesta as a hire car now as it's in for repair. Hopefully they won't right it off or find any mods i have not declared...:(
Bollox!
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Sorry to hear that, what tyres you got?
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Sport lines ? Wheels? Suspension?
This can happen if you've got new tyres up front and worn on the rear,is this possible?
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Sport lines ? Wheels? Suspension?
This can happen if you've got new tyres up front and worn on the rear,is this possible?
Eibach Sportlines.
Tyres are as you say really.
New Goodyear eagle f1's on the front, half worn P-ZERO's on the back.
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I don't reckon it was uprated springs on old dampers (unless they're shot), could have hit a patch of diesel or something.
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Sport lines ? Wheels? Suspension?
This can happen if you've got new tyres up front and worn on the rear,is this possible?
Eibach Sportlines.
Tyres are as you say really.
New Goodyear eagle f1's on the front, half worn P-ZERO's on the back.
Where you giving it some beans ?
New tyres should of been put on the rear.
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Probably driver error. Especially in the cold they can be a bit tail happy if you lift off in the middle of a corner. Not really the conditions to be hooning around.
Glad you are OK and car seems relatively damage free all things considered.
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Yes I can vary these cars can be tail happy in certain weather conditions as I've slid across one whole lane taking the corner a little too quickly and luckily I released the gas peddle too.
Glad you're ok and hope they don't find the mods.
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I inadvertently drifted on a roundabout after I fitted brand new Eagle F1s to the front and had pretty old PS3s on the rear. As soon as I got home I swapped them round. My guess would be your problem was a combination of cold/damp roads, too much speed and tyres the wrong was round
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Glad you're okay, that's the main thing :happy2:
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I had OEM shocks and Sportlines fitted when I bought my Ed. 30. I felt the car to be too harsh and bumpy going over even small creases. That's comparing with my GT Sport with Koni FSD, Eibach Pro-Kit, SuperPro ALK and the same sway bars as a GTI. The GT Sport was much more planted to the road and gave me a lot more confidence doing fast corners.
Sorted the problem with Koni Sport dampers, H&R -30 mm springs, SuperPro ALK and H&R sway bars. The car now turns really well and it's only harsh over much bigger creases.
If you hit a small bump in the road it was easy for the rear to hop a bit and mid corner that can be really dangerous. :scared:
I don't know how the Pirelli P-Zero are when half worn, the Eagle F1s Asys 2 handle well even when they're at the end of their life.
I'm glad you're ok and I hope you can have your car back on the road soon. :smiley:
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P zero are awful in the wet as they tend to become hard rubber from my experience. Haven't replaced the tyres on the gti yet as they've got plenty of meat but when I do, I'd like to fit Eagles on as they're great all year round.
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P zero are awful in the wet as they tend to become hard rubber from my experience. Haven't replaced the tyres on the gti yet as they've got plenty of meat but when I do, I'd like to fit Eagles on as they're great all year round.
They have discontinued the eagle F1's now mate, at least this is what the garage told me when i got mine a month of so ago.
All aseymetrics (sp) now.
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P zero are awful in the wet as they tend to become hard rubber from my experience. Haven't replaced the tyres on the gti yet as they've got plenty of meat but when I do, I'd like to fit Eagles on as they're great all year round.
They have discontinued the eagle F1's now mate, at least this is what the garage told me when i got mine a month of so ago.
All aseymetrics (sp) now.
:surprised: what??? buggery... :sad1: good tyres too :sad1: had them on the tt and we're well grippy. :driver: :driver:
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P zero are awful in the wet as they tend to become hard rubber from my experience. Haven't replaced the tyres on the gti yet as they've got plenty of meat but when I do, I'd like to fit Eagles on as they're great all year round.
They have discontinued the eagle F1's now mate, at least this is what the garage told me when i got mine a month of so ago.
All aseymetrics (sp) now.
:surprised: what??? buggery... :sad1: good tyres too :sad1: had them on the tt and we're well grippy. :driver: :driver:
I swear by them.
I had them on the impreza too and they were amazing in all conditions.
I had toyo proxy p1's on there before and the goodyears out performed them massively.
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Sport lines ? Wheels? Suspension?
This can happen if you've got new tyres up front and worn on the rear,is this possible?
Eibach Sportlines.
Tyres are as you say really.
New Goodyear eagle f1's on the front, half worn P-ZERO's on the back.
Unlucky mate. Front end bites too much with your new tyres when turning, back end with poorer grip can't respond in kind, meaning the car pivots round.
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P zero are awful in the wet as they tend to become hard rubber from my experience. Haven't replaced the tyres on the gti yet as they've got plenty of meat but when I do, I'd like to fit Eagles on as they're great all year round.
They have discontinued the eagle F1's now mate, at least this is what the garage told me when i got mine a month of so ago.
All aseymetrics (sp) now.
:surprised: what??? buggery... :sad1: good tyres too :sad1: had them on the tt and we're well grippy. :driver: :driver:
I swear by them.
I had them on the impreza too and they were amazing in all conditions.
I had toyo proxy p1's on there before and the goodyears out performed them massively.
My previous tyres on the tt were a mix of Dunlop sp sport x 2 Dunlop sports maxx x 1 and an Avon. when I went all out with the Eagle F1 asymmetric 2 and was shocked by the difference in tyre grip and never looked back. Now the 3 are out so let's see how things go with funds.
Just checked online and they are still available
http://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop.pl
Sorry that was the tt tyre size lol
http://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop.pl
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supersoft uniroyal rainsport 3 will put a stop to all this malarkey (I think) :grin: :grin: Camskill £75
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Think the garage meant they have stopped making the eagle f1 (the directional pattern) and only do the aysmetric 2's now. And just recently 3's :)
Think that's where the confusion has came from
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Think the garage meant they have stopped making the eagle f1 (the directional pattern) and only do the aysmetric 2's now. And just recently 3's :)
Think that's where the confusion has came from
I think so :stupid: garage should explain it better :signLOL:
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Sheet man, glad you're ok, could of been a lot worse
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Glad you didn't suffer any injuries. Hope the car gets sorted. :happy2:
Just out of interest; Were they "proper" P-Zero or P-Zero Rosso/Nero. I had a pair of Rosso on the front of my GTI when I got it. At around half wear they behaved like slicks in the wet/cold. Painful to replace a pair of tyres with 3.5mm+ tread on them.
I ran a pair of "P-Zero" on the back to the point you could see the belt on the inner edge (I know, I got a little lax once with the weekly checks trying to eek the most out of a set :scared:) and they were still planted in the wet.
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Sorry to hear this mate just as you had got it lookin excellent
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Think the garage meant they have stopped making the eagle f1 (the directional pattern) and only do the aysmetric 2's now. And just recently 3's :)
Think that's where the confusion has came from
That's correct.
It's juts the GSD3's that they cannot get any more.
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Glad you didn't suffer any injuries. Hope the car gets sorted. :happy2:
Just out of interest; Were they "proper" P-Zero or P-Zero Rosso/Nero. I had a pair of Rosso on the front of my GTI when I got it. At around half wear they behaved like slicks in the wet/cold. Painful to replace a pair of tyres with 3.5mm+ tread on them.
I ran a pair of "P-Zero" on the back to the point you could see the belt on the inner edge (I know, I got a little lax once with the weekly checks trying to eek the most out of a set :scared:) and they were still planted in the wet.
Interesting comment. I've often found it odd that P Zeros go onto very high performance Ferraris and the like, yet are derided by some who put them on 'normal' cars. I guess the difference is the 'Rosso' and 'Nero' brands are not the same as actual P Zeros.
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The P-Zero is an umbrella sub brand and Rosso/Nero are adaptions within it.
Like Michelin have Pilot Sport/super Sport/Sport cup.
No idea which is better.
Nero SEEM more of a GT tyre to me.
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When/If i get the car back i shall check the rear P-Zero's and see what type they are.
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Tyre mismatch would have caused that in the damp in my opinion. I hate Pirelli tyres, they are utterly sh*te in the wet and the Eagle F1s bite very well in the corners, even when it's damp and cold.
That coupled with new handling characteristics that you're not used to - recipe for disaster.
Hope you get it repaired ASAP, and when you do - sack off the Pirellis in favour of matched Eagles all round, or swap them to the front at the very least
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Update:
Just rang both garage and insurers and the news is neither bad nor good.
The garage say they have not accessed it yet as the insurance company has halted the claim due to unforeseen modifications!
I then rang the insurers who tell me this is a standard process and the underwriters will be accessing the claim within the next few days.
I then asked that if they did find undeclared mods that the claim would be void, but they assured me it will not, and all that will happen is that i shall have to pay the additional premium on my future insurance payments for the current mods.
So i'm fairly happy with that.
All i have to hope now is that they do not right it off...:(
This 1.0l fiesta i have as a hire car is sh*t slow and as i am 6 foot 6, it's not exactly spacious!
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Tyre mismatch would have caused that in the damp in my opinion. I hate Pirelli tyres, they are utterly sh*te in the wet and the Eagle F1s bite very well in the corners, even when it's damp and cold.
That coupled with new handling characteristics that you're not used to - recipe for disaster.
Hope you get it repaired ASAP, and when you do - sack off the Pirellis in favour of matched Eagles all round, or swap them to the front at the very least
Couldn't agree more with pirelli's. Had pzero nero on my previous car, and granted they gripped well enough in complete warm dry conditions, but show them a bit of cold, damp or wet weather and you'd think you were running budget tyres. I also found they wore quickly too.
I have Goodyear assy f1's on at present which I rate very highly, but, I will be changing to bridgestone s001's, so I will see how they go when the time comes
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Update:
Just rang both garage and insurers and the news is neither bad nor good.
The garage say they have not accessed it yet as the insurance company has halted the claim due to unforeseen modifications!
I then rang the insurers who tell me this is a standard process and the underwriters will be accessing the claim within the next few days.
I then asked that if they did find undeclared mods that the claim would be void, but they assured me it will not, and all that will happen is that i shall have to pay the additional premium on my future insurance payments for the current mods.
So i'm fairly happy with that.
All i have to hope now is that they do not right it off...:(
This 1.0l fiesta i have as a hire car is sh*t slow and as i am 6 foot 6, it's not exactly spacious!
I hope your mods were declared. You'll be in deep sh*t otherwise.
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Update:
The garage say they have not accessed it yet as the insurance company has halted the claim due to unforeseen modifications!
I then rang the insurers who tell me this is a standard process and the underwriters will be accessing the claim within the next few days.
I then asked that if they did find undeclared mods that the claim would be void, but they assured me it will not, and all that will happen is that i shall have to pay the additional premium on my future insurance payments for the current mods.
Undeclared modifications (depends on what they are & how many) will most likely result in your claim being refused - I hope thats not the case for you - have you been insured with this company/broker long? have you got a good relationship/reputation with them? all things that will support your claim.
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You're very lucky they aren't saying anything about the mods as some insurance companies will cancel your policy and you get diddly squat. :happy2:
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If you have undeclared modifications then you, frankly, deserve to have the claim not paid. Many of us pay extra to have our modifications applied to our insurance. If you can't afford the mods for insurance you shouldn't be modding them.
Some insurers will allow you to retrospectively pay, in the case of minor mods for example and exhaust or an air filter. Some don't.
But if you have bodykits, wheels, air ride, retrimmed bucket seats etc, then they'll just cover third party costs and you'll be left with a damaged vehicle.
Also if they do decide to cancel your claim you may be liable for the costs of the courtesy car and it won't be at the normal 45 quid a day you'd pay for such a car....more like 145 quid a day.
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I don't think it's particularly wise to admit online you have undeclared mods. If they find them they will more than likely cancel the policy and may well report it as insurance fraud. Personally id edit or delete this thread. As Xjay says we all pay extra to cover our mods, I'm not sure why you think you don't have to.
Nothing personal.
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I'm with these guys ^
It's a bit naughty.
Good that nobody was hurt though.
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There must be 100 's of thousands that don't declare mods :signLOL:
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There must be 100 's of thousands that don't declare mods :signLOL:
They should stick to cars and modifications they can afford then.
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I have the following upgraded on my GTI:
MFD2 > RNS 510 with Kuftatec bluetooth
Standard front and rear GTI valances > Ed 30 front and rear valances
Mk6 OEM rear parking sensors added
OEM xenons added
Ed30 Pescaras all around
I haven't declared any of them because they were all OEM upgrades largely. Should I have?
Will be doing a Stage 1 map later this year when I find an insurer that supports mods at a reasonable price.
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There must be 100 's of thousands that don't declare mods :signLOL:
They should stick to cars and modifications they can afford then.
Thats thing AJP they can afford to modify um but not declare the mods :signLOL:
When I replaced my 7 spoke OEM alloys for a genuine set of tt 9 spoke alloys and told the insurance company, they said as long as they are OEM parts then it's not classed as a modified car but anything aftermarket is a mod and needs to be declared. :happy2: oh and to add to that mod I fitted a V6 complete spoiler, Votex bumper spoiler too. It was at the insurance approved repairer who tried to cock and bull me into being worried about these but I'd already declared these to the insurance company who didn't charge any extra :smiley:
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the thing with insurance companys is they will look for any excuse not to pay the full amount of what a car is worth if its writen of etc--on the safe side all my mods on my car are declared then it doesn't give them that excuse
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the thing with insurance companys is they will look for any excuse not to pay the full amount of what a car is worth if its writen of etc--on the safe side all my mods on my car are declared then it doesn't give them that excuse
Correct approach. Simple common sense.
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There must be 100 's of thousands that don't declare mods :signLOL:
They should stick to cars and modifications they can afford then.
Thats thing AJP they can afford to modify um but not declare the mods :signLOL:
When I replaced my 7 spoke OEM alloys for a genuine set of tt 9 spoke alloys and told the insurance company, they said as long as they are OEM parts then it's not classed as a modified car but anything aftermarket is a mod and needs to be declared. :happy2: oh and to add to that mod I fitted a V6 complete spoiler, Votex bumper spoiler too. It was at the insurance approved repairer who tried to cock and bull me into being worried about these but I'd already declared these to the insurance company who didn't charge any extra :smiley:
My point is, could they afford to modify them AND declare the mods? That's a rhetorical question by the way.
Many of the more affordable policies are the kind of mainstream insurers that run a mile when modifications are mentioned; demanding a massively inflated price or refusing to offer the cover at all. But for a standard car, they're cheap.
So plenty of people insure their car on the cheap as standard while keeping quiet about the extra 100bhp they've coaxed from it. Like I say, a bit naughty.
If someone can afford to modify a car AND declare the modifications, why wouldn't they declare the modifications, unless money was the issue?
Anyway, don't want to derail the thread.
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When I was 23 I was paying 675 a year on my GTI, that was an agreed value policy with like for like mod replacement, I had a power limit of 275 on the policy and everything declared from the air ride to the decat pipe to the little air lift sticker on the back window. that was 4 years no claims and 1 accident in 5 years (on the 5th year).
when I was 22 that it was £950 with all of the same modifications. - 3 years ncb / 1 accident
If I couldn't have afforded the insurance I would not have modified my car.
My friend is 19 and has a Scirocco and is not allowed a remap by his insurance company so guess what he isn't getting a remap.
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I have the following upgraded on my GTI:
MFD2 > RNS 510 with Kuftatec bluetooth
Standard front and rear GTI valances > Ed 30 front and rear valances
Mk6 OEM rear parking sensors added
OEM xenons added
Ed30 Pescaras all around
I haven't declared any of them because they were all OEM upgrades largely. Should I have?
Will be doing a Stage 1 map later this year when I find an insurer that supports mods at a reasonable price.
I'd say 99% of people changing these few bits wouldn't declare. Not because they're trying to be sly and not pay the extra premium but out of innocence. Put up a poll and find out :signLOL:
Anyway, hope they don't mess you around. Had you increased the car to 400bhp and not declared I'd hope your car was a write off and you got nothing from it but your mods are only cosmetic and you don't deserve to have your claim made void! Good luck buddy!
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but your mods are only cosmetic and you don't deserve to have your claim made void! Good luck buddy!
I don't think that's for you to decide!
Technically you should declare ANY modifications (even OEM upgrades for example if you have a standard Mk5 GTI and you have all the colour coding done and fit ED30 front splitter and ED30 rear bumper and the ED30 alloys then you HAVE to declare these).
It's then up to your insurer/broker/underwriter to decide what needs to be "declared" and what would be covered as normal.
ED30s are a much higher theft risk than a regular GTI so a car modified in my example would be more desirable to thieves to damage/steal.
If anyone listens to one pice of advice it's this - EVERY modification should be openly declared to your insurance company otherwise at worst your insurance may be CANCELLED. Then try getting insurance after you've had a policy voided mid-term...
If they then decide you do not need to pay extra then that's happy days. Otherwise accept the increase in premiums or remove your modifications.
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but your mods are only cosmetic and you don't deserve to have your claim made void! Good luck buddy!
I don't think that's for you to decide!
Technically you should declare ANY modifications (even OEM upgrades for example if you have a standard Mk5 GTI and you have all the colour coding done and fit ED30 front splitter and ED30 rear bumper and the ED30 alloys then you HAVE to declare these).
It's then up to your insurer/broker/underwriter to decide what needs to be "declared" and what would be covered as normal.
ED30s are a much higher theft risk than a regular GTI so a car modified in my example would be more desirable to thieves to damage/steal.
If anyone listens to one pice of advice it's this - EVERY modification should be openly declared to your insurance company otherwise at worst your insurance may be CANCELLED. Then try getting insurance after you've had a policy voided mid-term...
If they then decide you do not need to pay extra then that's happy days. Otherwise accept the increase in premiums or remove your modifications.
Especially when most of the time your insurance company won't increase your premium for cosmetic mods, just one admin fee charge which in my case is £19.50 with Admiral. They even recommend I declare 4 or 5 mods at the same time so I don't have to pay several admin fees. I did however have to just pay £90 in increased premium for retrofitting Xenons and Rear LED lights to my MK6, but having undeclared mods isn't something I wanted to risk! Things like leather seats, rear view camera, bumper, side skirts, spoiler etc etc all come under cosmetic/interior mods and therefore don't add to my premium.
OP sorry to hear about your accident and hope all is well though!
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f*ck me you lot are all very well behaved on here aren't you.
I can afford to declare the mods, but it's hard to declare them when i only had them fitted 4 hours before i crashed the car, on a sunday, where their lines are closed at 2pm! - plus insurance companies are scum, just like bankers and the likes, so i try to pay them as little as possible.
I had the previous mods declared on my policy, like wheels, exhaust etc.
I have to admit to not declaring many mods i changed on my previous cars, as my mantra has always been 'don't crash' and there won't be a problem.
When you have been driving for 17+ years and never had a crash, you seem to think you never will, and i like taking risks, if i didn't, i wouldn't be self employed earning over £70k a year!
I shall be ringing them for an update today.
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When I was 23 I was paying 675 a year on my GTI, that was an agreed value policy with like for like mod replacement, I had a power limit of 275 on the policy and everything declared from the air ride to the decat pipe to the little air lift sticker on the back window. that was 4 years no claims and 1 accident in 5 years (on the 5th year).
when I was 22 that it was £950 with all of the same modifications. - 3 years ncb / 1 accident
If I couldn't have afforded the insurance I would not have modified my car.
My friend is 19 and has a Scirocco and is not allowed a remap by his insurance company so guess what he isn't getting a remap.
Do you want a gold sticker or something mate?
Next you will be telling us you never break the speed limit!
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I have the following upgraded on my GTI:
MFD2 > RNS 510 with Kuftatec bluetooth
Standard front and rear GTI valances > Ed 30 front and rear valances
Mk6 OEM rear parking sensors added
OEM xenons added
Ed30 Pescaras all around
I haven't declared any of them because they were all OEM upgrades largely. Should I have?
Will be doing a Stage 1 map later this year when I find an insurer that supports mods at a reasonable price.
I'd say 99% of people changing these few bits wouldn't declare. Not because they're trying to be sly and not pay the extra premium but out of innocence. Put up a poll and find out :signLOL:
Anyway, hope they don't mess you around. Had you increased the car to 400bhp and not declared I'd hope your car was a write off and you got nothing from it but your mods are only cosmetic and you don't deserve to have your claim made void! Good luck buddy!
Cheers dude.
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I like to take risks too, but I still declare everything.
It's so easy to make a list of mods in a text file and then paste them in online/read them out over the phone.
Much like Jay, I've told my insurance about stickers and my white led interior bulbs, as well as "important" stuff like coilovers etc. It's simply not worth the risk of losing out on a claim.
It's better to pay that bit extra to declare everything, since if you do need to claim and you've not declared mods it's going to cost you a hell of a lot more because you won't actually be insured!
There's plenty of brokers who will treat you sensibly and not take the piss with their prices, especially if you're as old as you're making yourself out to be!
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I think Adrian flux don't add any extra for cosmetic mods and filters.
Only if the cars been mapped.
Can't remember as it's been a while.
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So an update, and it's good news.
Spoke to my insurer and they have accepted the claim, and have told the repair company to continue with repairs.
As the only modified part that is damaged was the wheels which i had declared, they say they have no issue at all with continuing with the repair and indeed repairing the modified wheel at the rear that is badly damaged, there will be no up in premium but i plan to declare the other mods after repair which i'm sure will put the premiums up a little bit.
Luckily i have protected no claims so that is all fine too.
They are even colour coding the rear bumper back to how i had it before.
Just shows you don't have to be quite as paranoid as some make out. I know numerous people that have had moderately modified cars that have all had incidents and have never had issues claiming. Maybe if my wheels were not declared it might of been more of an issue, who know's.
I would of course recommend people declaring their mods though, as i'm sure if i was unlucky enough to damage an undeclared mod i might of been in trouble.
Greenman - for ever living on the edge...;)
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Glad it's worked out! Just make sure you check the car over with a fine tooth comb prior to accepting it back from the repair centre!!
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Glad it's worked out! Just make sure you check the car over with a fine tooth comb prior to accepting it back from the repair centre!!
I will thanks mate.
I want to make sure they have checked all the suspension as i only got it fitted hours before crashing the car and am slightly suspect to that mod causing the car to oversteer.
Do you know if that would be a standard thing for them to check at a repair centre?
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Lucky so n so and don't do it again :stupid: :signLOL: especially flaunting the non declaration of mods on a forum :surprised:
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Lucky so n so and don't do it again :stupid: :signLOL: especially flaunting the non declaration of mods on a forum :surprised:
Well it is pretty obvious there are modifications to the car that the insurer now know about, so i had nothing to hide.
I'm still not declaring my magic tree air freshener though, will cost far too much on the premiums...;)
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Lucky so n so and don't do it again :stupid: :signLOL: especially flaunting the non declaration of mods on a forum :surprised:
Well it is pretty obvious there are modifications to the car that the insurer now know about, so i had nothing to hide.
I'm still not declaring my magic tree air freshener though, will cost far too much on the premiums...;)
Magic tree :scared: I'm chucking mine it the bin :laugh:
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I declared my map and they took the right piss with it. But I am still glad that you have come out ok, as I agree with your dislike of.insurance companies and bankers :signLOL:. This is my first car, and I passed last march. Im 24 now, 23 at the time and live in a reasonable area - 2100 it was for the year. Theyve now charged me an.extra 150 for the remaining four months of the year for my map. Im hoping if I look around once ive got my no claims then il pay a lot less. Befor people say, I know I probably could of got cheaper.but my eagerness and naiety got the better of me. Anyway, pleased to hear it's gunna be OK
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All's well that ends well.
As much as opinion on the insurance thing can be heated, and I personally would always advocate playing it safe and declaring every mod, I'm sure I'm not alone in being pleased for a fellow vw enthusiast when things could have easily gone pear shaped.
Out of interest, who is your insurer?
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All's well that ends well.
As much as opinion on the insurance thing can be heated, and I personally would always advocate playing it safe and declaring every mod, I'm sure I'm not alone in being pleased for a fellow vw enthusiast when things could have easily gone pear shaped.
Out of interest, who is your insurer?
Esure.
I shall be declaring my mods when i get the car back and i'm happy with the repairs.
Just another thing not to have to worry about if my right foot wants to have a bit of fun again.....but maybe in the dry next time...;)
Will also change the pirelli's on the back for some goodyears asap.
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I think Adrian flux don't add any extra for cosmetic mods and filters.
Only if the cars been mapped.
Can't remember as it's been a while.
Yeah I'm with Flux, have been for years.
All mods declared, including ed30 front, colour coded sides and rear, BBS VZ, H&R springs etc, and none of that added to the premium - just the map, and that added 60 quid over about 9 months of the policy.
Can't fault them.
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I think Adrian flux don't add any extra for cosmetic mods and filters.
Only if the cars been mapped.
Can't remember as it's been a while.
Yeah I'm with Flux, have been for years.
All mods declared, including ed30 front, colour coded sides and rear, BBS VZ, H&R springs etc, and none of that added to the premium - just the map, and that added 60 quid over about 9 months of the policy.
Can't fault them.
That's a fair price really. Did you have a power limit on the policy?
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All's well that ends well.
As much as opinion on the insurance thing can be heated, and I personally would always advocate playing it safe and declaring every mod, I'm sure I'm not alone in being pleased for a fellow vw enthusiast when things could have easily gone pear shaped.
Out of interest, who is your insurer?
Esure.
I shall be declaring my mods when i get the car back and i'm happy with the repairs.
Just another thing not to have to worry about if my right foot wants to have a bit of fun again.....but maybe in the dry next time...;)
Will also change the pirelli's on the back for some goodyears asap.
Yeah get the tyres sorted, you don't want the back end going again! It's been really mild again the last couple of days though and it feels like my grip has doubled. Anything under 8/9 degrees and things can get tricky!
Will bear esure in mind.
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I think Adrian flux don't add any extra for cosmetic mods and filters.
Only if the cars been mapped.
Can't remember as it's been a while.
Yeah I'm with Flux, have been for years.
All mods declared, including ed30 front, colour coded sides and rear, BBS VZ, H&R springs etc, and none of that added to the premium - just the map, and that added 60 quid over about 9 months of the policy.
Can't fault them.
That's a fair price really. Did you have a power limit on the policy?
None was mentioned at all. Can't see me ever getting more than 280bhp or so out of it while it has a k03 anyway, so I guess if and when that time comes I'll see what they say.
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I think Adrian flux don't add any extra for cosmetic mods and filters.
Only if the cars been mapped.
Can't remember as it's been a while.
Yeah I'm with Flux, have been for years.
All mods declared, including ed30 front, colour coded sides and rear, BBS VZ, H&R springs etc, and none of that added to the premium - just the map, and that added 60 quid over about 9 months of the policy.
Can't fault them.
It's great isn't it :jumping: nothing but the map :signLOL:
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So an update, and it's good news.
Spoke to my insurer and they have accepted the claim, and have told the repair company to continue with repairs.
As the only modified part that is damaged was the wheels which i had declared, they say they have no issue at all with continuing with the repair and indeed repairing the modified wheel at the rear that is badly damaged, there will be no up in premium but i plan to declare the other mods after repair which i'm sure will put the premiums up a little bit.
Luckily i have protected no claims so that is all fine too.
They are even colour coding the rear bumper back to how i had it before.
Just shows you don't have to be quite as paranoid as some make out. I know numerous people that have had moderately modified cars that have all had incidents and have never had issues claiming. Maybe if my wheels were not declared it might of been more of an issue, who know's.
I would of course recommend people declaring their mods though, as i'm sure if i was unlucky enough to damage an undeclared mod i might of been in trouble.
Greenman - for ever living on the edge...;)
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Brilliant news mate that's it's getting repaired,bet you can relax now :signLOL:
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When I was 23 I was paying 675 a year on my GTI, that was an agreed value policy with like for like mod replacement, I had a power limit of 275 on the policy and everything declared from the air ride to the decat pipe to the little air lift sticker on the back window. that was 4 years no claims and 1 accident in 5 years (on the 5th year).
when I was 22 that it was £950 with all of the same modifications. - 3 years ncb / 1 accident
If I couldn't have afforded the insurance I would not have modified my car.
My friend is 19 and has a Scirocco and is not allowed a remap by his insurance company so guess what he isn't getting a remap.
Do you want a gold sticker or something mate?
Next you will be telling us you never break the speed limit!
Nope I did 156 GPS on the A34 last year (outside statute of prosecution) :happy2:
Hope you can take some of that £70k a year you earn and pay for your modifications. Scum or not they serve their purpose and they are a legal requirement.
On the topic of "i've heard loads of people who have had modified cars and no issue"
well i did have a modified car, my first car, a corsa, with a stupid bodykit, not declared, when i crashed it, claim was denied due to undeclared mods and i lost out on 1800.
so it does happen.
glad your car is sorted pal.
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Not reading 5 pages, sorry to hear about the motor though... I've had this a few times when I've fitted new tyres to the front, but ESP has always saved it, was yours switched off?
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Very glad all worked out well for you.
This thread brought up some very interesting points re: declaring mods etc.
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Not reading 5 pages, sorry to hear about the motor though... I've had this a few times when I've fitted new tyres to the front, but ESP has always saved it, was yours switched off?
Yep. Sunday is a time i like to have a little play as the roads are quieter and i always turn the ESP off, otherwise it's just boring as the traction control just holds you back, maybe though, on that day, that would not of been a bad thing...;)
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So an update, and it's good news.
Spoke to my insurer and they have accepted the claim, and have told the repair company to continue with repairs.
As the only modified part that is damaged was the wheels which i had declared, they say they have no issue at all with continuing with the repair and indeed repairing the modified wheel at the rear that is badly damaged, there will be no up in premium but i plan to declare the other mods after repair which i'm sure will put the premiums up a little bit.
Luckily i have protected no claims so that is all fine too.
They are even colour coding the rear bumper back to how i had it before.
Just shows you don't have to be quite as paranoid as some make out. I know numerous people that have had moderately modified cars that have all had incidents and have never had issues claiming. Maybe if my wheels were not declared it might of been more of an issue, who know's.
I would of course recommend people declaring their mods though, as i'm sure if i was unlucky enough to damage an undeclared mod i might of been in trouble.
Greenman - for ever living on the edge...;)
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Brilliant news mate that's it's getting repaired,bet you can relax now :signLOL:
I won;t be able to relax until i have the keys in my hand and everything is back to how it was...;)
Fingers crossed i will have some updated pics in the members ride section in a few weeks, minus the damage...:)
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I have the following upgraded on my GTI:
MFD2 > RNS 510 with Kuftatec bluetooth
Standard front and rear GTI valances > Ed 30 front and rear valances
Mk6 OEM rear parking sensors added
OEM xenons added
Ed30 Pescaras all around
I haven't declared any of them because they were all OEM upgrades largely. Should I have?
Will be doing a Stage 1 map later this year when I find an insurer that supports mods at a reasonable price.
I'd say 99% of people changing these few bits wouldn't declare. Not because they're trying to be sly and not pay the extra premium but out of innocence.
On the phone to my insurer now.
Apparently 17" Monza upgrade to 18" Pescaras isn't allowed. I can only upgrade by at least 2" according to the policy underwriter. So 17" or 19"!
If only I didn't declare I had 17" wheels, I'd be fine but now that I've told them I can't go back on it.
Everything else is fine! :stupid:
This is insane...... :signLOL:
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I have the following upgraded on my GTI:
MFD2 > RNS 510 with Kuftatec bluetooth
Standard front and rear GTI valances > Ed 30 front and rear valances
Mk6 OEM rear parking sensors added
OEM xenons added
Ed30 Pescaras all around
I haven't declared any of them because they were all OEM upgrades largely. Should I have?
Will be doing a Stage 1 map later this year when I find an insurer that supports mods at a reasonable price.
I'd say 99% of people changing these few bits wouldn't declare. Not because they're trying to be sly and not pay the extra premium but out of innocence.
On the phone to my insurer now.
Apparently 17" Monza upgrade to 18" Pescaras isn't allowed. I can only upgrade by at least 2". So 17" or 19"!
This is insane...... :signLOL:
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Not reading 5 pages, sorry to hear about the motor though... I've had this a few times when I've fitted new tyres to the front, but ESP has always saved it, was yours switched off?
Yep. Sunday is a time i like to have a little play as the roads are quieter and i always turn the ESP off, otherwise it's just boring as the traction control just holds you back, maybe though, on that day, that would not of been a bad thing...;)
I hear that mate, if it's dry it goes off, but in the winter wet it's always on, saved my ass a few times.
I have the following upgraded on my GTI:
MFD2 > RNS 510 with Kuftatec bluetooth
Standard front and rear GTI valances > Ed 30 front and rear valances
Mk6 OEM rear parking sensors added
OEM xenons added
Ed30 Pescaras all around
I haven't declared any of them because they were all OEM upgrades largely. Should I have?
Will be doing a Stage 1 map later this year when I find an insurer that supports mods at a reasonable price.
I'd say 99% of people changing these few bits wouldn't declare. Not because they're trying to be sly and not pay the extra premium but out of innocence.
On the phone to my insurer now.
Apparently 17" Monza upgrade to 18" Pescaras isn't allowed. I can only upgrade by at least 2". So 17" or 19"!
This is insane...... :signLOL:
:stupid:
Bizarre, so they don't insure all those Mk5 GTI's with 18 inch wheels then.
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Not reading 5 pages, sorry to hear about the motor though... I've had this a few times when I've fitted new tyres to the front, but ESP has always saved it, was yours switched off?
Yep. Sunday is a time i like to have a little play as the roads are quieter and i always turn the ESP off, otherwise it's just boring as the traction control just holds you back, maybe though, on that day, that would not of been a bad thing...;)
I hear that mate, if it's dry it goes off, but in the winter wet it's always on, saved my ass a few times.
I have the following upgraded on my GTI:
MFD2 > RNS 510 with Kuftatec bluetooth
Standard front and rear GTI valances > Ed 30 front and rear valances
Mk6 OEM rear parking sensors added
OEM xenons added
Ed30 Pescaras all around
I haven't declared any of them because they were all OEM upgrades largely. Should I have?
Will be doing a Stage 1 map later this year when I find an insurer that supports mods at a reasonable price.
I'd say 99% of people changing these few bits wouldn't declare. Not because they're trying to be sly and not pay the extra premium but out of innocence.
On the phone to my insurer now.
Apparently 17" Monza upgrade to 18" Pescaras isn't allowed. I can only upgrade by at least 2". So 17" or 19"!
This is insane...... :signLOL:
:stupid:
Bizarre, so they don't insure all those Mk5 GTI's with 18 inch wheels then.
:stupid:
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After talking to them for well over an so far across 3 phone calls they have given me 3 reasons so far, each knocked down so they come up with another:
1. it will affect the handling of the car too much to move from 17" to 18". 17" to 19" is fine.
2. the wheels in conjunction with the bodywork changes will make the car look like a boyracer car (errr... it's already a GTI, so it already fits your stupid (and somewhat sexist) terminology - and I'm 30 looking for a nicer looking car, not 16 trying to collect the ladies at my local turning circle! ).
3. back to safety. It will affect the balance and alignment. Surely it's the wheel itself that is balanced and then alignment is not altered by a wheel?
When pushed harder and asked for common sense to be applied, I have been given "our underwriters carried out analysis on accidents vs people who upgraded their wheels by 1" - they decided to block people from doing it as there was a trend occurring".
Yet that trend stops with 2" bigger?
They don't want to hear about the fact that these are factory-supplied wheels from an Edition 30 or even the obvious one of the 18" Monzas being a factory option. It's literally the most illogical thing I've heard in a long time.
I asked would my car have a claim voided if I fitted them - the fella on the phone is dead on and says "listen, these calls are recorded so I can't say what you should do (hint hint, fit them and never worry)". Then I said surely the notes on my policy are now taken up with wheel-related nonsense, so the first thing they would check to get out of a claim would be wheels... he agreed that I would be stupid to fit them now.
So, anyone got a set of 17" BBS CH for sale? :ashamed: Christ on a stick.... if only I didn't open my big mouth.
*(Sorry for crapping on your thread greenman!)
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After talking to them for well over an so far across 3 phone calls they have given me 3 reasons so far, each knocked down so they come up with another:
1. it will affect the handling of the car too much to move from 17" to 18". 17" to 19" is fine.
2. the wheels in conjunction with the bodywork changes will make the car look like a boyracer car (errr... it's already a GTI, so it already fits your stupid (and somewhat sexist) terminology - and I'm 30 looking for a nicer looking car, not 16 trying to collect the ladies at my local turning circle! ).
3. back to safety. It will affect the balance and alignment. Surely it's the wheel itself that is balanced and then alignment is not altered by a wheel?
When pushed harder and asked for common sense to be applied, I have been given "our underwriters carried out analysis on accidents vs people who upgraded their wheels by 1" - they decided to block people from doing it as there was a trend occurring".
Yet that trend stops with 2" bigger?
They don't want to hear about the fact that these are factory-supplied wheels from an Edition 30 or even the obvious one of the 18" Monzas being a factory option. It's literally the most illogical thing I've heard in a long time.
I asked would my car have a claim voided if I fitted them - the fella on the phone is dead on and says "listen, these calls are recorded so I can't say what you should do (hint hint, fit them and never worry)". Then I said surely the notes on my policy are now taken up with wheel-related nonsense, so the first thing they would check to get out of a claim would be wheels... he agreed that I would be stupid to fit them now.
So, anyone got a set of 17" BBS CH for sale? :ashamed: Christ on a stick.... if only I didn't open my big mouth.
*(Sorry for crapping on your thread greenman!)
Can't you change your insurance to another company in the future? One with better conditions to modded cars? :confused:
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Can't you change your insurance to another company in the future? One with better conditions to modded cars? :confused:
That would be the smart thing to do :popcornsoda:
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Can't you change your insurance to another company in the future? One with better conditions to modded cars? :confused:
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Yeah of course - rang Greenlight today but I was declined instantly as my named driver is a journalist. Tony is on holiday at the moment, so will call back next week when he's back in as he knows she's not a paparazzi and does desk work.
Did a bunch of quotes through comparethemarket.com and it offered 1 quote at £11,000. I think I'll keep trying with the current insurer.
Trying to phone Adrian Flux at the moment!
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Should I declare factory options like 18" Monza wheels and dnx521, highline clocks, mfsw? What about interior LEDs, eibach lowering springs?
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After talking to them for well over an so far across 3 phone calls they have given me 3 reasons so far, each knocked down so they come up with another:
1. it will affect the handling of the car too much to move from 17" to 18". 17" to 19" is fine.
2. the wheels in conjunction with the bodywork changes will make the car look like a boyracer car (errr... it's already a GTI, so it already fits your stupid (and somewhat sexist) terminology - and I'm 30 looking for a nicer looking car, not 16 trying to collect the ladies at my local turning circle! ).
3. back to safety. It will affect the balance and alignment. Surely it's the wheel itself that is balanced and then alignment is not altered by a wheel?
When pushed harder and asked for common sense to be applied, I have been given "our underwriters carried out analysis on accidents vs people who upgraded their wheels by 1" - they decided to block people from doing it as there was a trend occurring".
Yet that trend stops with 2" bigger?
They don't want to hear about the fact that these are factory-supplied wheels from an Edition 30 or even the obvious one of the 18" Monzas being a factory option. It's literally the most illogical thing I've heard in a long time.
I asked would my car have a claim voided if I fitted them - the fella on the phone is dead on and says "listen, these calls are recorded so I can't say what you should do (hint hint, fit them and never worry)". Then I said surely the notes on my policy are now taken up with wheel-related nonsense, so the first thing they would check to get out of a claim would be wheels... he agreed that I would be stupid to fit them now.
So, anyone got a set of 17" BBS CH for sale? :ashamed: Christ on a stick.... if only I didn't open my big mouth.
*(Sorry for crapping on your thread greenman!)
lol no probs.
I would probably just try and cancel your policy and insure with someone else tbh, as the others have said.
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Should I declare factory options like 18" Monza wheels and dnx521, highline clocks, mfsw? What about interior LEDs, eibach lowering springs?
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lowering springs yes everything else no.
thats what i would do
but as always check with your insurance..........
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After talking to them for well over an so far across 3 phone calls they have given me 3 reasons so far, each knocked down so they come up with another:
1. it will affect the handling of the car too much to move from 17" to 18". 17" to 19" is fine.
2. the wheels in conjunction with the bodywork changes will make the car look like a boyracer car (errr... it's already a GTI, so it already fits your stupid (and somewhat sexist) terminology - and I'm 30 looking for a nicer looking car, not 16 trying to collect the ladies at my local turning circle! ).
3. back to safety. It will affect the balance and alignment. Surely it's the wheel itself that is balanced and then alignment is not altered by a wheel?
When pushed harder and asked for common sense to be applied, I have been given "our underwriters carried out analysis on accidents vs people who upgraded their wheels by 1" - they decided to block people from doing it as there was a trend occurring".
Yet that trend stops with 2" bigger?
They don't want to hear about the fact that these are factory-supplied wheels from an Edition 30 or even the obvious one of the 18" Monzas being a factory option. It's literally the most illogical thing I've heard in a long time.
I asked would my car have a claim voided if I fitted them - the fella on the phone is dead on and says "listen, these calls are recorded so I can't say what you should do (hint hint, fit them and never worry)". Then I said surely the notes on my policy are now taken up with wheel-related nonsense, so the first thing they would check to get out of a claim would be wheels... he agreed that I would be stupid to fit them now.
So, anyone got a set of 17" BBS CH for sale? :ashamed: Christ on a stick.... if only I didn't open my big mouth.
*(Sorry for crapping on your thread greenman!)
The guy on the phone was absolutely right when saying hint hint. If you'd fitted the wheels that would have been it as no one would be the wiser as the 18" are a factory option for someone buying the car from new and opting for larger wheels. you could fit the ed30 body bits and that wouldn't go against you in a claim as they are agsin a factory option which the insurance will never find out or even question for that matter as they are genuine parts. :happy2:
I've had these conversations with insurance companies over the years regards factory fitted extras and it's a no brainer. :signLOL:
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Gentlemen, try AIB Insurance. I've just retained my business with them for the second year running. Apart from my GTI DSG, I have another performance car which is group 50 and their premiums were amazing for where I live, in Ilford, Essex.
They specialise in performance cars including Ferraris, Porsche etc.
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Gentlemen, try AIB Insurance. I've just retained my business with them for the second year running. Apart from my GTI DSG, I have another performance car which is group 50 and their premiums were amazing for where I live, in Ilford, Essex.
They specialise in performance cars including Ferraris, Porsche etc.
Group 50!
I thought the top insurance group was a 20/20b?
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They changed them a few years back:
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/insurance/car-insurance-groups/
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They changed them a few years back:
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/insurance/car-insurance-groups/
:confused: good to know..cheers for the link
ED30 36
GTI 34
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They changed them a few years back:
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/insurance/car-insurance-groups/
I see. Didn't know this. Cheers.
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My ex worked for direct line and they went up to group 100 :signLOL:
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They changed them a few years back:
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/insurance/car-insurance-groups/
:confused: good to know..cheers for the link
ED30 36
GTI 34
My Leon FR - which is a GTI underneath - is only group 28 :signLOL:
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They changed them a few years back:
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/insurance/car-insurance-groups/
:confused: good to know..cheers for the link
ED30 36
GTI 34
My Leon FR - which is a GTI underneath - is only group 28 :signLOL:
Overall value is less though. It's the cabin materials and design that depreciates the Leon. The new generation is much better now. :wink:
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Er! not forgetting the lights play up at the rear :signLOL:
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They changed them a few years back:
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/insurance/car-insurance-groups/
:confused: good to know..cheers for the link
ED30 36
GTI 34
My Leon FR - which is a GTI underneath - is only group 28 :signLOL:
and octavia vRS is in group 30 :confused:
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now that it's all sorted that it's going to be fixed maybe there's a lesson to be had :-)
less of the black ice excuses and slow down a bit in cold and slippy conditions especially with new suspension and (i'm assuming) no alignment done :-)
you have to be a proper hooligan to deactive the esp on the road and feel it would have saved your bacon. but hey ho that's done.
no more crashes :happy2:.
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now that it's all sorted that it's going to be fixed maybe there's a lesson to be had :-)
less of the black ice excuses and slow down a bit in cold and slippy conditions especially with new suspension and (i'm assuming) no alignment done :-)
you have to be a proper hooligan to deactive the esp on the road and feel it would have saved your bacon. but hey ho that's done.
no more crashes :happy2:.
I've learned my lesson.
I was still thinking i was driving my old 4WD scoob.
Two new goodyears going on the rear when i get it back, alignment done and if the garage has not already done so, checking of the suspension will be done.
I shall save my heavy right foot for dry conditions, where, i'm afraid, ESP will still be fully off...;)
Trying to have fun with the ESP on is just plain boring!
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I shall save my heavy right foot for dry conditions, where, i'm afraid, ESP will still be fully off...;)
Trying to have fun with the ESP on is just plain boring!
Might i suggest you save the road for safe journeys and book some trackdays if you want to push your limits.
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I shall save my heavy right foot for dry conditions, where, i'm afraid, ESP will still be fully off...;)
Trying to have fun with the ESP on is just plain boring!
Might i suggest you save the road for safe journeys and book some trackdays if you want to push your limits.
No.
:)
I bought a GTI to have a bit of fun, not to be driving miss daisy. I shall just make sure i don't drive like a tit in bad conditions.
I do actually plan on a few track days too, just not in the winter. Castle coombe that i have been around many times is only about 10 miles away from my gaff.
I really want to do silverstone though, as that is one track i have never been around.
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you are fully entitled to drive how you like of course. but just consider other road users. the road is not a race track and as i said you have to be a proper tosser on the road to be activating the ESP systems. just keep them on. doesn't make you lewis hamilton driving around like a bellend on the a417.
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Depends on the conditions, a greasy road won't take much to activate the system... In the dry though you'd have to be really trying I think. Down to tyres too of course.
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Depends on the conditions, a greasy road won't take much to activate the system... In the dry though you'd have to be really trying I think. Down to tyres too of course.
And if it doesn't activate in the wet, your not trying hard enough...;)
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And if it doesn't activate in the wet, your not trying hard enough...;)
And that's exactly why you crashed.
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And if it doesn't activate in the wet, your not trying hard enough...;)
And that's exactly why you crashed.
Well it must of been, you would know, you were there, oh no hang on, you weren't!
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1) you fitted some upgraded suspension (presumably because you now has a racecar)
2) you went out for a drive in wet, cold conditions and deactivated the ESP because "if you don't trigger the esp you're not trying hard enough"
3) you were "powering out of a corner" and the back end came out (simply doesn't happen unless you are on a trailing throttle or lift off mid corner)
4) you initially blamed oil / black ice or a fitting error (not your own fault , obviously)
5) throughout the thread you make comments to driving fast / aggressively / without much regard for public safety or speed limits.
"I bought a GTI to have a bit of fun, not to be driving miss daisy"
sorry if i have a problem with that attitude.
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1) you fitted some upgraded suspension (presumably because you now has a racecar)
2) you went out for a drive in wet, cold conditions and deactivated the ESP because "if you don't trigger the esp you're not trying hard enough"
3) you were "powering out of a corner" and the back end came out (simply doesn't happen unless you are on a trailing throttle or lift off mid corner)
4) you initially blamed oil / black ice or a fitting error (not your own fault , obviously)
5) throughout the thread you make comments to driving fast / aggressively / without much regard for public safety or speed limits.
"I bought a GTI to have a bit of fun, not to be driving miss daisy"
sorry if i have a problem with that attitude.
Next time you break the speed limit, think again about the post above.
Do you never drive your car fast on the road then?
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I can see both of your points but I think your both taking your arguments to the extreme examples when really in everyday driving what youre suggesting isn’t the case
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Next time you break the speed limit, think again about the post above.
Do you never drive your car fast on the road then?
I do drive fast. But I don't spin and end up in a barrier at the side of the road! And certainly not in cold wet conditions or if I've just changed suspension components on my car and my alignment is way off or that the car may handle different!
I guarantee if you had your ESP enabled you wouldn't have crashed. But for some reason people think that it "gets in the way" when if you are driving on the road it absolutely doesn't. Tbh last trackday I did in the wet at Mallory it didn't bother me at all.
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Next time you break the speed limit, think again about the post above.
Do you never drive your car fast on the road then?
I do drive fast. But I don't spin and end up in a barrier at the side of the road! And certainly not in cold wet conditions or if I've just changed suspension components on my car and my alignment is way off or that the car may handle different!
I guarantee if you had your ESP enabled you wouldn't have crashed. But for some reason people think that it "gets in the way" when if you are driving on the road it absolutely doesn't. Tbh last trackday I did in the wet at Mallory it didn't bother me at all.
Yet!
I could of said that same thing to you a few weeks ago if i didn't crash.
I hadn't had an accident until that day over my 18 years of driving.
I agree that if the ESP had of been on i might of been ok, but it wasn't and that's that. I will continue to drive with it off in the right conditions as that is how i like to enjoy the car.
I think we need to agree to disagree before we start calling each other names and someone finds an even bigger bag of popcorn!
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I can see both sides of arguments. But it is very frustrating when people turn esp off and try making out they're Lewis Hamilton
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I can see both sides of arguments. But it is very frustrating when people turn esp off and try making out they're Lewis Hamilton
Well i'm quite obviously not, as i spanked it into the central reservation...:(
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I can see both sides of arguments. But it is very frustrating when people turn esp off and try making out they're Lewis Hamilton
Well i'm quite obviously not, as i spanked it into the central reservation...:(
Atleast your man enough to say hey I messed up lol. And even Lewis bins his cars ;)
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I doubt esp would help if you're sliding across as I've realised.
It's happened and you were honest enough to tell a forum you cocked up so time to stop all the slanging and breath people :drinking:
That's a huge pop corn sack :signLOL:
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I am enjoying the fact that this thread has grumbled on for soooooooooooooo long it has entertained me greatly. Op peeps are sensitive be careful what you post and xjay don't get ur knickers in a twist over things that are beyond your power to control, if op wants to crash that's his choice. But a massive round of applause to hedge, sir I must bow down to your bag for all I had to offer was this, :popcornsoda: loving ur work. :happy2:
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Jesus H Christ how long is this thread and not one picture of the damaged car :party:
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I am enjoying the fact that this thread has grumbled on for soooooooooooooo long it has entertained me greatly. Op peeps are sensitive be careful what you post and xjay don't get ur knickers in a twist over things that are beyond your power to control, if op wants to crash that's his choice. But a massive round of applause to hedge, sir I must bow down to your bag for all I had to offer was this, :popcornsoda: loving ur work. :happy2:
I thought it was a bag full of weed first lol
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Jesus H Christ how long is this thread and not one picture of the damaged car :party:
:popcornsoda:
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Jesus H Christ how long is this thread and not one picture of the damaged car :party:
:signLOL: good point
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I am enjoying the fact that this thread has grumbled on for soooooooooooooo long it has entertained me greatly. Op peeps are sensitive be careful what you post and xjay don't get ur knickers in a twist over things that are beyond your power to control, if op wants to crash that's his choice. But a massive round of applause to hedge, sir I must bow down to your bag for all I had to offer was this, :popcornsoda: loving ur work. :happy2:
I thought it was a bag full of weed first lol
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So did I! lol
Puff Puff Pass :D
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I am enjoying the fact that this thread has grumbled on for soooooooooooooo long it has entertained me greatly. Op peeps are sensitive be careful what you post and xjay don't get ur knickers in a twist over things that are beyond your power to control, if op wants to crash that's his choice. But a massive round of applause to hedge, sir I must bow down to your bag for all I had to offer was this, :popcornsoda: loving ur work. :happy2:
I thought it was a bag full of weed first lol
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So did I! lol
Puff Puff Pass :D
Who said anything about passing :P
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Sharing is caring. Pics!
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The car is in for repair so can't get pics.
It should be ready to pick up tomorrow so you lot will just have to use your imagination...;)
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BS anyone crashing their car gets pics nowadays
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BS anyone crashing their car gets pics nowadays
Does the crash barrier email them to me or something?
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Might be best to keep your pics to yourself before and after if you didn't report damage to street furniture. :wink:
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Ah no :(
Unlucky mate, could happen to any of us, just glad no one else was involved and you were ok!
Bet you're looking forward to getting her back...
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Might be best to keep your pics to yourself before and after if you didn't report damage to street furniture. :wink:
I reported damage.
All there was was a scuff on the central reservation, and chipped curb and some tyre marks on the grass.
Updated (fixed) pics coming on sunday hopefully as i should get the car back either today or tomorrow...:)
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Forgot to say.
Went to see the car yesterday as it's only a mile away from one of my work places.
It's just waiting rear trailing arm bush now.
All that was damaged was the trailing arm and bumper, also the wheel has been fixed and refurbed, which is a bonus as that wheel had a few scuff marks on it...:)
Can't wait to get it back now.
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All good news
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All good news
Apart from the no pics bit
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Would have been ice to see what damage was caused and how the repair turns out but still it's coming along :happy2:
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All good news
Apart from the no pics bit
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Would have been ice to see what damage was caused and how the repair turns out but still it's coming along :happy2:
The garage took some photos. I shall see if i can get them off them when and if i pick the car up today.
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Would have been ice to see what damage was caused and how the repair turns out but still it's coming along :happy2:
The garage took some photos. I shall see if i can get them off them when and if i pick the car up today.
Yes usually give you a file with pictures if you ask nicely as I did when a twat came ploughing into my tt back in 2013.
Hope you like the end result.
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Would have been ice to see what damage was caused and how the repair turns out but still it's coming along :happy2:
The garage took some photos. I shall see if i can get them off them when and if i pick the car up today.
Yes usually give you a file with pictures if you ask nicely as I did when a twat came ploughing into my tt back in 2013.
Hope you like the end result.
Fingers crossed.
Juts rang them and it's going to be tomorrow now. Definitely they say.
I shall be in their office at 12pm sharp to demand it back...:)
It's been 23 days now!
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Would have been ice to see what damage was caused and how the repair turns out but still it's coming along :happy2:
The garage took some photos. I shall see if i can get them off them when and if i pick the car up today.
Yes usually give you a file with pictures if you ask nicely as I did when a twat came ploughing into my tt back in 2013.
Hope you like the end result.
Fingers crossed.
Juts rang them and it's going to be tomorrow now. Definitely they say.
I shall be in their office at 12pm sharp to demand it back...:)
It's been 23 days now!
Not another one of those flecking companies oh it'll be ready tomorrow sir. no tomorrow sir. oh actually tomorrow ad we're missing the hub sir. here you go sir your car is ready and you see all the dull paint work and trims broken in the car. no sir we do that it was like that when it came in. No it wasn't. yes it was and then it's a complaint and things go wrong they take the car in paint the quarter agsin and feck up the roof by polishing it but we didn't do that sir it was like that. no it wasn't. then they take it back in 1 month of pissing around with 20 calls to the insurance company about the repair being shoddy and when you finally get the car back, paint is still sh*te but you're fed up and realise another inside panel is broken :signLOL: what a beech of a time I had with my last claim.
Good luck :happy2:
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Would have been ice to see what damage was caused and how the repair turns out but still it's coming along :happy2:
The garage took some photos. I shall see if i can get them off them when and if i pick the car up today.
Yes usually give you a file with pictures if you ask nicely as I did when a twat came ploughing into my tt back in 2013.
Hope you like the end result.
Fingers crossed.
Juts rang them and it's going to be tomorrow now. Definitely they say.
I shall be in their office at 12pm sharp to demand it back...:)
It's been 23 days now!
Not another one of those flecking companies oh it'll be ready tomorrow sir. no tomorrow sir. oh actually tomorrow ad we're missing the hub sir. here you go sir your car is ready and you see all the dull paint work and trims broken in the car. no sir we do that it was like that when it came in. No it wasn't. yes it was and then it's a complaint and things go wrong they take the car in paint the quarter agsin and feck up the roof by polishing it but we didn't do that sir it was like that. no it wasn't. then they take it back in 1 month of pissing around with 20 calls to the insurance company about the repair being shoddy and when you finally get the car back, paint is still sh*te but you're fed up and realise another inside panel is broken :signLOL: what a beech of a time I had with my last claim.
Good luck :happy2:
Cheers man.
I won't accept it until i'm happy with it.
I went into their office on tuesday and the bloke on the counter looked like jabba the hut, i was a little worried he had eaten the car and i would never see it again...:(
Right miserable f*cker he is!
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The beast is back.
I have my golf back in all it's shining glory.
The repair centre took near on a month but they have done a really good job. Spray work etc is spot on, wheel is fine and they even done laser tracking and valeted the car.
So glad to be rid of the fiesta loan car.
I asked for pics and they are going to email them to me next week apparently. If they do i shall post them up here.
Repair centre manager said when he took it on a test drive that it's the fastest golf that he has ever driven, but he would keep that a secret!
Not that it matters, as i have mods declared now at an extra cost of £60 a month!
:)
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A month? You posted up on the 19th Jan that you had done it the Sunday before? :signLOL:
Either way, glad it's back and right first time - very often isn't the case with insurance repair work
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The beast is back.
I have my golf back in all it's shining glory.
The repair centre took near on a month but they have done a really good job. Spray work etc is spot on, wheel is fine and they even done laser tracking and valeted the car.
So glad to be rid of the fiesta loan car.
I asked for pics and they are going to email them to me next week apparently. If they do i shall post them up here.
Repair centre manager said when he took it on a test drive that it's the fastest golf that he has ever driven, but he would keep that a secret!
Not that it matters, as i have mods declared now at an extra cost of £60 a month!
:)
So basically he has admitted to taking your pride and joy out and hammering the life out of it?
Seems like a great garage that.
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Would have been ice to see what damage was caused and how the repair turns out but still it's coming along :happy2:
The garage took some photos. I shall see if i can get them off them when and if i pick the car up today.
Yes usually give you a file with pictures if you ask nicely as I did when a twat came ploughing into my tt back in 2013.
Hope you like the end result.
Fingers crossed.
Juts rang them and it's going to be tomorrow now. Definitely they say.
I shall be in their office at 12pm sharp to demand it back...:)
It's been 23 days now!
Not another one of those flecking companies oh it'll be ready tomorrow sir. no tomorrow sir. oh actually tomorrow ad we're missing the hub sir. here you go sir your car is ready and you see all the dull paint work and trims broken in the car. no sir we do that it was like that when it came in. No it wasn't. yes it was and then it's a complaint and things go wrong they take the car in paint the quarter agsin and feck up the roof by polishing it but we didn't do that sir it was like that. no it wasn't. then they take it back in 1 month of pissing around with 20 calls to the insurance company about the repair being shoddy and when you finally get the car back, paint is still sh*te but you're fed up and realise another inside panel is broken :signLOL: what a beech of a time I had with my last claim.
Good luck :happy2:
Cheers man.
I won't accept it until i'm happy with it.
I went into their office on tuesday and the bloke on the counter looked like jabba the hut, i was a little worried he had eaten the car and i would never see it again...:(
Right miserable f*cker he is!
Maybe he swollowed it down for afters :signLOL:
I had a good old fight with the repaired that took my car in but failed as I had other problems at the time and the car was least of my worries. The insurance company offered £300 pounds as good will but I accidently ticked the wrong box and lost out. The colour wasn't right and looked a little misty but 2 years on and sold it on and the guy who bought it didn't even test drive the car as he said he trusted my word that it's a good car ad has had £1000's spent on its upkeep and maintenance so was happy at that.
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A month? You posted up on the 19th Jan that you had done it the Sunday before? :signLOL:
Either way, glad it's back and right first time - very often isn't the case with insurance repair work
I did think that was a quick month :signLOL:
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The beast is back.
I have my golf back in all it's shining glory.
The repair centre took near on a month but they have done a really good job. Spray work etc is spot on, wheel is fine and they even done laser tracking and valeted the car.
So glad to be rid of the fiesta loan car.
I asked for pics and they are going to email them to me next week apparently. If they do i shall post them up here.
Repair centre manager said when he took it on a test drive that it's the fastest golf that he has ever driven, but he would keep that a secret!
Not that it matters, as i have mods declared now at an extra cost of £60 a month!
:)
They have to test drive it to make sure the car drives as it should although he shouldn't be hammering your pride and joy about :stupid: garage people. can't trust the bastar** hence I never use um. TTS that's have been mapped can have valet mode so no abusing when it's in for any work :wink:
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A month? You posted up on the 19th Jan that you had done it the Sunday before? :signLOL:
Either way, glad it's back and right first time - very often isn't the case with insurance repair work
Only declared exhaust and suspension not re-map last week.
Sorry, £60 a year.
I am typing these posts whilst also having loads of teachers come to me with issues so my brain gets a little confused sometimes.
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The beast is back.
I have my golf back in all it's shining glory.
The repair centre took near on a month but they have done a really good job. Spray work etc is spot on, wheel is fine and they even done laser tracking and valeted the car.
So glad to be rid of the fiesta loan car.
I asked for pics and they are going to email them to me next week apparently. If they do i shall post them up here.
Repair centre manager said when he took it on a test drive that it's the fastest golf that he has ever driven, but he would keep that a secret!
Not that it matters, as i have mods declared now at an extra cost of £60 a month!
:)
So basically he has admitted to taking your pride and joy out and hammering the life out of it?
Seems like a great garage that.
This is true.
But f*ck it as i have it back now.
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bet that is the longest month of your life but worth the wait if your happy with the repair
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bet that is the longest month of your life but worth the wait if your happy with the repair
It was. Saved me a few bob on petrol though...;)
Just need to sort the tail happy issues now!