Post by: bbfb10 on March 05, 2016, 08:44:30 pm
I know l need an intercooler and a downpipe, l dont want a decat so have been looking at the 'ebay special' Direnza sports cat pipes. Ive searched on here and found differing opinions. Does anyone have a first hand review or opinion of one?
In terms of intercooler am l best to go for an S3 one or are the ebay specials just as good? Again, first hand opinions would be great.
Im tempted by the R-Tech Wellycooler, but dont know a great deal about them. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Ta. Ben.
Post by: jacobrownoly on March 05, 2016, 10:02:49 pm
Right then boys and girls, lve saved a few pennies and am looking to go from stock straight to Stage 2+. Im very excited.
I know l need an intercooler and a downpipe, l dont want a decat so have been looking at the 'ebay special' Direnza sports cat pipes. Ive searched on here and found differing opinions. Does anyone have a first hand review or opinion of one?
In terms of intercooler am l best to go for an S3 one or are the ebay specials just as good? Again, first hand opinions would be great.
Im tempted by the R-Tech Wellycooler, but dont know a great deal about them. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Ta. Ben.
Stage 2+ is great. You will need an intercooler tho to get the best out of it.I would look at Airtec and is much better than the S3 one. In terms of exhaust you only need a de-cat downpipe, you can get one off eBay for £150 (leave your cat-back stock).
I just made 280bhp and 400nm on stage 2+ the car is great!
Post by: Chris92 on March 06, 2016, 11:11:00 am
Post by: Ricky123 on March 07, 2016, 01:15:06 am
I had a direnza cat back on a previous gti and it was fine, can't comment on long term use or a sports cat as I didn't have the car long enough and didn't use one of there sports cats.
Decat would be a better choice, it will be mapped so you don't have an engine light on with the decat fitted. It will just need swapping at mot time unless you have a friendly mot man. Not a huge job anyway so worth considering.
The biggest restriction on the exhaust is the cat/downpipe the rest of the system will efffect performance but I never felt any real difference myself going from stock cat back and decat to aftermarket cat back and decat.
Post by: c4pete on October 03, 2016, 10:07:55 am
What did you end up doing? I'm looking at the Direnza down pipes with sport cat, be curious what you thought if you fitted one.
Cheers,
Pete.
Post by: Sulley91 on October 03, 2016, 10:34:49 pm
Post by: croak2012 on October 03, 2016, 11:27:14 pm
Post by: r5gtt on October 03, 2016, 11:42:43 pm
Post by: croak2012 on October 03, 2016, 11:48:44 pm
niki says it's good for stage 2+ as I have the R6 ic when we had words last so that's good enough for me.
exactly! and the whole idea of ka04 upgrade is to bring it up to audi s3 spec anyways haha!
Post by: bbfb10 on October 04, 2016, 07:09:27 am
In terms of Stage 2+ lm yet to fit my intercooler and get a map as lm seriously considering buying an edition 30 and moving my Stage 2+ parts over to that.
Post by: r5gtt on October 04, 2016, 02:34:48 pm
lol definitely and anyone who says it's no good should contact Niki at r-tech who will put things right :signLOL:niki says it's good for stage 2+ as I have the R6 ic when we had words last so that's good enough for me.
exactly! and the whole idea of ka04 upgrade is to bring it up to audi s3 spec anyways haha!
I can also say these Chinese copies will easily do the same job as any other fmic although figment is very tedious. Been there done that with my last car and took a whole six hours to do including chopping the cross member and manufacturing your own pipes with odds and ends lots of swearing too :doh:
Post by: xs2man on October 04, 2016, 04:33:39 pm
OP. Keep an eye on the likes of Audi-Sport.net and other Audi forums for S3 intercoolers. I picked mine up for £100 delivered, probably because no-one wants such a thing on the Audi forum as it's not an upgrade to them. It is to us though.
Post by: bigeyd on October 04, 2016, 07:56:37 pm
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Post by: DANBOY66 on October 05, 2016, 07:39:50 am
and stage 2+ is excellent always scare quite a few quick cars :grin:
Post by: irish_ram on October 05, 2016, 12:22:09 pm
lol definitely and anyone who says it's no good should contact Niki at r-tech who will put things right :signLOL:niki says it's good for stage 2+ as I have the R6 ic when we had words last so that's good enough for me.
exactly! and the whole idea of ka04 upgrade is to bring it up to audi s3 spec anyways haha!
I can also say these Chinese copies will easily do the same job as any other fmic although figment is very tedious. Been there done that with my last car and took a whole six hours to do including chopping the cross member and manufacturing your own pipes with odds and ends lots of swearing too :doh:
Sorry to hijack the thread and I am clueless really on this sort of stuff but would an S3 intercooler be good enough for a K04 Stage 2+ as I have seen they can make around 380bhp.
Only reason I ask is I have a generic map on my ED30 and want to get rid for an R-Tech map so toying with the idea of collecting the Stage 2+ parts and going straight for Stage 2+
Post by: DANBOY66 on October 05, 2016, 12:44:55 pm
Post by: irish_ram on October 05, 2016, 01:19:28 pm
an s3 intercooler will make upto 380bhp but its the heat recovery that they suffer with a better intercooler will be more consistent over more pulls
Cheers mate, seems a better intercooler is the way to go
Post by: croak2012 on October 05, 2016, 11:22:06 pm
would you want more than 360bhp with a mk5 gti? well... without spending an absolute fortune to accommodate?...an s3 intercooler will make upto 380bhp but its the heat recovery that they suffer with a better intercooler will be more consistent over more pulls
Cheers mate, seems a better intercooler is the way to go
Post by: DANBOY66 on October 06, 2016, 05:15:43 am
Heat kills power
The s3 intercooler can make the power but when it's starts getting very hot after a bit of abuse the s3 intercooler begins to struggle with the heat
Then the ecu will retard timing making the car slower but still safe to cope with the heat
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Post by: pudding on October 06, 2016, 11:52:51 am
Dyno cells don't have anywhere near the amount of cool, fresh air going through the IC as the open road, so I wouldn't always take a dyno operator's word on IATs being too high. They might well be, during 10 back to back power runs in a tiny little room!
And then of course there is the volume of the thing to fill, which can increase lag a bit. That's why the S3 intercooler is only marginally bigger than the GTI one. VAG focused more on improving the core than outright size.
I think ~ £260 for a brand new 6R/S3 intercooler from the dealer is a great upgrade & OEM quality, even on a K04 for stage 2. Even better if you can find them on ebay for a steal!
Whilst the Peron, Welly boots, APR, Integrated Engineering & Revo ICs of this world have their place.... sometimes they're not necessary for the job in hand :smiley:
Post by: croak2012 on October 06, 2016, 04:02:17 pm
Your missing my point
Heat kills power
The s3 intercooler can make the power but when it's starts getting very hot after a bit of abuse the s3 intercooler begins to struggle with the heat
Then the ecu will retard timing making the car slower but still safe to cope with the heat
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On a track day on a summer's day that might be an issue, but in 90% of road driving scenarios, heat soaking an S3 intercooler would take some doing.Could he install the s3 ic and down the line if needed just add twintercooler on?
Dyno cells don't have anywhere near the amount of cool, fresh air going through the IC as the open road, so I wouldn't always take a dyno operator's word on IATs being too high. They might well be, during 10 back to back power runs in a tiny little room!
And then of course there is the volume of the thing to fill, which can increase lag a bit. That's why the S3 intercooler is only marginally bigger than the GTI one. VAG focused more on improving the core than outright size.
I think ~ £260 for a brand new 6R/S3 intercooler from the dealer is a great upgrade & OEM quality, even on a K04 for stage 2. Even better if you can find them on ebay for a steal!
Whilst the Peron, Welly boots, APR, Integrated Engineering & Revo ICs of this world have their place.... sometimes they're not necessary for the job in hand :smiley:
or is this total overkill!...
Post by: r5gtt on October 06, 2016, 04:08:09 pm
Post by: DANBOY66 on October 06, 2016, 05:09:19 pm
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Post by: r5gtt on October 06, 2016, 05:19:27 pm
When I was discussing my remap on fb niki replied and said I should be going 2+ with the gear I'm fitting on and said it would be enough.
S3 forsale on fb right now 75 + delivery :signLOL:
Post by: DANBOY66 on October 06, 2016, 05:22:42 pm
not so great for k04's
people want every last bhp they can get i have seen it a thousand times i have done this and that what else can i do before mapping
an s3 intercooler will be ok but not the best option
Post by: DANBOY66 on October 06, 2016, 05:27:18 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fcabrio16v%2Fedition_30%2F0D4153EA-4501-432C-B868-E5C315F55FBC_zps6muyqgoh.jpg&hash=5790ecfa276a0069ea0647e6904c1d49213b7608)
best intercooler bang for buck if your handy all new can be done for under £200
Post by: r5gtt on October 06, 2016, 05:44:26 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fcabrio16v%2Fedition_30%2F4E2C7B8D-804A-4D81-96CB-0E4376BA9A29_zpssclfn6cj.jpg&hash=aa3299d196079086ef33c1628515773e8e78bd49)I remember me asking questions about that but as you didn't give the dimensions I went a bought n R6 one lol also too much hassle to cut the cross member and drill holes to mount an aftermarket one on so easier to go oem :signLOL:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fcabrio16v%2Fedition_30%2F0D4153EA-4501-432C-B868-E5C315F55FBC_zps6muyqgoh.jpg&hash=5790ecfa276a0069ea0647e6904c1d49213b7608)
best intercooler bang for buck if your handy all new can be done for under £200
Post by: AJP on October 06, 2016, 05:52:59 pm
He also told me about Peron intercoolers suffering from pressure drop and possibly not being as good as I'd heard they were. But at the same time other equally respected tuners rate the Peron highly.
Whatever's right or wrong, it's definitely something I need to look into lots more before I go k04.
Post by: croak2012 on October 06, 2016, 06:25:08 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fcabrio16v%2Fedition_30%2F4E2C7B8D-804A-4D81-96CB-0E4376BA9A29_zpssclfn6cj.jpg&hash=aa3299d196079086ef33c1628515773e8e78bd49)seems like this is the best option to go for then! I have ka04 with front mount ic and the red forge silicone pipes looks bad ass too ahahahah :evilgrin:
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best intercooler bang for buck if your handy all new can be done for under £200
Post by: r5gtt on October 06, 2016, 06:29:11 pm
Its pain in the :booty: when trying to get everything together and cut out bumper supports :doh:(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fcabrio16v%2Fedition_30%2F4E2C7B8D-804A-4D81-96CB-0E4376BA9A29_zpssclfn6cj.jpg&hash=aa3299d196079086ef33c1628515773e8e78bd49)seems like this is the best option to go for then! I have ka04 with front mount ic and the red forge silicone pipes looks bad ass too ahahahah :evilgrin:
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best intercooler bang for buck if your handy all new can be done for under £200
Post by: croak2012 on October 06, 2016, 07:00:19 pm
Post by: r5gtt on October 06, 2016, 07:16:24 pm
...but the red silicone pipes.... :signLOL:nice I had blue painted black with alloy hosing :signLOL:
Post by: xs2man on October 06, 2016, 07:58:11 pm
Really :scared:
When I was discussing my remap on fb niki replied and said I should be going 2+ with the gear I'm fitting on and said it would be enough.
S3 forsale on fb right now 75 + delivery :signLOL:
You sure that's for sale? And not just me saying "woo hoo, look what I got for £75 + delivery"...
Post by: r5gtt on October 06, 2016, 08:08:22 pm
your right but it was too late by then lol although another member is selling one who comented in that post :signLOL:Really :scared:
When I was discussing my remap on fb niki replied and said I should be going 2+ with the gear I'm fitting on and said it would be enough.
S3 forsale on fb right now 75 + delivery :signLOL:
You sure that's for sale? And not just me saying "woo hoo, look what I got for £75 + delivery"...
Post by: r5gtt on October 06, 2016, 09:11:05 pm
Yeah the primary job of the end tank is to distribute the air into the core rails evenly. Cooling is secondary. The tanks aren't even in the air flow. The S3 cooler is a massive improvement over the GTI one. People just don't think it is because it's not a lot bigger. There is such a thing as going over the top with IC sizing. And remember, dyno cells have don't have the same airflow compared to the open road, so of course any cooler will heatsoak after 10 runs back to back in a cell. VAG designed the S3 cooler to work in Dubai. Heatsoaking it on the road in the UK would take some doing!
Post by: Paradox1 on October 07, 2016, 10:26:28 am
Post by: pudding on October 07, 2016, 10:48:45 am
S3 intercoolers struggle on a hot day let alone on a track day
I think you are exaggerating. My 6R/S3 intercooler was absolutely fine this summer running 23psi, KO4. Temps were always under the 50 deg timing pull threshold, even on that 33 deg day we had.
I think if people are heatsoaking an S3 cooler on public roads with a K04, they're overspinning the turbo and it's time to fit a bigger one running slower but more cfm.
Post by: Paradox1 on October 07, 2016, 10:52:50 am
S3 intercoolers struggle on a hot day let alone on a track day
I think you are exaggerating. My 6R/S3 intercooler was absolutely fine this summer running 23psi, KO4. Temps were always under the 50 deg timing pull threshold, even on that 33 deg day we had.
I think if people are heatsoaking an S3 cooler on public roads with a K04, they're overspinning the turbo and it's time to fit a bigger one running slower but more cfm.
Or just dont drive like a nutjob on public roads
Post by: pudding on October 07, 2016, 11:01:54 am
S3 intercoolers struggle on a hot day let alone on a track day
I think you are exaggerating. My 6R/S3 intercooler was absolutely fine this summer running 23psi, KO4. Temps were always under the 50 deg timing pull threshold, even on that 33 deg day we had.
I think if people are heatsoaking an S3 cooler on public roads with a K04, they're overspinning the turbo and it's time to fit a bigger one running slower but more cfm.
Or just dont drive like a nutjob on public roads
That too. There are always cool off periods in between full throttle blasts for the cooler to dissipate the heat. If the turbo was in full boost all the time, even a 5 foot wide intercooler would eventually heatsoak.
Post by: DANBOY66 on October 07, 2016, 11:07:06 am
time and place for everything stop talking stupid i am not 17
when sitting in traffic at pod heat soak on the s3 cooler was insane it got even worse when we turned the engine off the front mount fitted does not hold the heat as much as its further away from the engine
anyway i am never going to agree with your opinion on the s3 cooler but thats life we all have opinions like bumholes :happy2:
Post by: r5gtt on October 07, 2016, 11:37:39 am
yeah be careful :happy2:S3 intercoolers struggle on a hot day let alone on a track day
I think you are exaggerating. My 6R/S3 intercooler was absolutely fine this summer running 23psi, KO4. Temps were always under the 50 deg timing pull threshold, even on that 33 deg day we had.
I think if people are heatsoaking an S3 cooler on public roads with a K04, they're overspinning the turbo and it's time to fit a bigger one running slower but more cfm.
Or just dont drive like a nutjob on public roads
Post by: pudding on October 07, 2016, 12:18:41 pm
:grin: :grin: :grin: my favourite place is to drive fast past schools :laugh:
time and place for everything stop talking stupid i am not 17
when sitting in traffic at pod heat soak on the s3 cooler was insane it got even worse when we turned the engine off the front mount fitted does not hold the heat as much as its further away from the engine
anyway i am never going to agree with your opinion on the s3 cooler but thats life we all have opinions like bumholes :happy2:
Aha, we're not talking about driving then! Any intercooler will heat soak sat idling for ages as there's no airflow, other than the fans. Agreed that pushing yours out further can help with that, but how does that affect the air guide cowling on the slam panel? Plastic end tanks are actually better in that scenario as alloy just absorbs all the heat and passes it into the core, but anyway, you're right, let's agree to disagree :happy2:
Post by: DANBOY66 on October 07, 2016, 12:59:22 pm
sitting at a set of traffic lights getting ready to boot it away the s3 cooler will be heat soaking like mad and it would take longer for the air to cool as the air flow is much better on my front mount.
cooler air means faster car like winter and summer driving :happy2:
Post by: pudding on October 07, 2016, 02:22:25 pm
Yeah I hate that VW sandwiched the intercooler between the radiator and A/C condenser!
I'm not that worried by traffic and idling scenarios, just so long as it does the business when booting it at speed, which it does!
Post by: Madone on October 07, 2016, 04:02:03 pm
I had a stage 1 airtech, worked well, got hot when stationary and cooled fairly quickly when moving. I switched to a peron, noticed a big difference in this recovery of soaked in heat. It runs cooler anyway during general driving, but the way it gets rid of the hear after a good soaking is most impressive. It felt like the airtech and def the oem were fighting the soaked in heat and once soaked would be a struggle to consistently keep the temps down.
Also the ecu will pull timing way before 50deg, as soon as it senses knock it will pull, an important factor to prevent knock (as well as octane) is temp. So the colder you can keep things the more timing you can run. Hence you can run water meth kits with mainly water to just lower charge temps and wind your timing up. Obviously adding meth increases octane with is another boost to running more timing. But colder is definitely better :happy2:
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Post by: DANBOY66 on October 07, 2016, 09:31:16 pm
Dark blue line is air intake temps
Yellow line is actually all 4 cylinders zero knock
This was my eddy on a 4th gear pull same intercooler setup I posted a picture of and 50/50 meth that car on that pull gave everything it had
It maintained 15 Deg on a full pull no way an s3 setup could do that
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Post by: Little_Dave on October 07, 2016, 10:55:19 pm
It's not even that great standard as would get heat soak just driving to work last summer in 30' heat, car was noticeably slower at lunchtime in the heat to early mornings or evenings
Tune the car and the problem multiplies and so on
I now run a peron cooler which is a lot better than the s3 cooler obviously and haven't had a hint of heat soak in day to day driving in the heat or even when driving the car hard, but still got heat soak at Santa pod sitting in the queue waiting to do runs
As Dan said it's all about how long it takes to recover the ambient temps and it's always a trade off with a standard fitment cooler as the air con rad covers most of the surface area
Peron airtec etc will do a better job than the s3 cooler and in my eyes is worth the upgrade but if you're serious about chasing numbers and getting the best solution the kind of cooler Dan had on his eddy would be the way to go
And before u ask why I haven't got one fitted I don't track my car and only go to the pod once or twice a year so even though I'm running 360bhp 400lbs it's perfect for the way I use the car
Dave
Post by: Paradox1 on October 10, 2016, 10:29:25 am
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Dark blue line is air intake temps
Yellow line is actually all 4 cylinders zero knock
This was my eddy on a 4th gear pull same intercooler setup I posted a picture of and 50/50 meth that car on that pull gave everything it had
It maintained 15 Deg on a full pull no way an s3 setup could do that
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Welly cooler ftw :driver:
Post by: oak_grun on October 10, 2016, 11:07:21 am
Post by: flashp on October 10, 2016, 06:35:07 pm
At Goodwood the car is moving at up to 140mph which gives good air flow through the rads.
Granted my tune isn't wringing the engines neck for every last ounce of power, the turbo duty cycle is around 60% at present.
As an aside, I found the stage 2 Revo map to be smoother than the 2+.
I would be interested to do a back to back on a track day if it were possible before committing to a big spend which obviously isn't practical so some track gathered data rather than rolling road logs would be good to see.
I'll keep an open mind on this I think.
Next time out I'll keep an on intake temps more closely, I have Polar FIS. In the past I feel they've been below 35 degrees but can't be certain now.
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Post by: r5gtt on January 23, 2017, 03:50:34 pm
@DANBOY66 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=8622) we're there any other modifications needed like the front bumper to fit it like this?.
Post by: Craig Stanley on May 30, 2017, 12:44:12 pm
niki says it's good for stage 2+ as I have the R6 ic when we had words last so that's good enough for me.Hi. Don't suppose you have a part number for this bud.
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Post by: r5gtt on May 31, 2017, 01:31:42 am
sorry mate sold it a while back and now have a welly with home made piping :doh:niki says it's good for stage 2+ as I have the R6 ic when we had words last so that's good enough for me.Hi. Don't suppose you have a part number for this bud.
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Post by: Craig Stanley on May 31, 2017, 07:05:46 am
Ok. No worries. Thought it was a long shot.sorry mate sold it a while back and now have a welly with home made piping :doh:niki says it's good for stage 2+ as I have the R6 ic when we had words last so that's good enough for me.Hi. Don't suppose you have a part number for this bud.
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Post by: r5gtt on June 01, 2017, 12:24:36 am
I'll get a mate to get the PN from his one :happy2:Ok. No worries. Thought it was a long shot.sorry mate sold it a while back and now have a welly with home made piping :doh:niki says it's good for stage 2+ as I have the R6 ic when we had words last so that's good enough for me.Hi. Don't suppose you have a part number for this bud.
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Post by: Craig Stanley on June 01, 2017, 07:52:44 am
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Post by: r5gtt on June 01, 2017, 10:49:30 pm
Associated Parts to retro fit to gti
Drivers (Left) Lower Intercooler hose for Golf R 1K0-145-834-AK
Passenger (Right) Lower Intercooler hose for Golf R 1K0-145-832-AE
Post by: Craig Stanley on June 02, 2017, 06:36:42 am
@Craig Stanley (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=15958) 1K0-145-803-BPThanks r5gtt. Thats brilliant.
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Post by: r5gtt on June 08, 2017, 08:56:36 pm
your welcome :smiley:@Craig Stanley (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=15958) 1K0-145-803-BPThanks r5gtt. Thats brilliant.
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Passenger (Right) Lower Intercooler hose for Golf R 1K0-145-832-AE
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Post by: Craig Stanley on September 08, 2018, 09:08:34 am
I've finally got round to sorting my intercooler and I've opted for the s3 with alloy end tanks but I wanted to ask you if I need to change the pipes on it or will I just need to cut the old ones to fit. Thanks in advance and I'd really appreciate your input.
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Post by: pudding on July 19, 2019, 05:14:16 pm
I’ve been reading this thread as I’m looking for an intercooler. There’s a lot of mentions of s3 intercoolers for £200. I’m being quoted £550 from the dealership. Are you guys talking about aftermarket eBay ones or something? If some one could send us a link would be appreciated! Also what’s the toyo sports and intercoolers like. Also what are perons? Thanks
There's 2 choices of S3 IC. Pre-2009 which is about £550 as you say, and post 2009 which has plastic end tanks for £349ish. Golf 6R is another option. Darkside developments sell the pre-2009 S3 IC for £360 - https://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/audi-s3-intercooler-with-alloy-end-tanks-for-mk5-mk6-platform.html
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Post by: Second on August 23, 2019, 05:21:50 pm
The original hoses will do the job, you must have to cut the hose at the metal bit, try to get it as tight to the metal as you can to save as much hose as possible.
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Post by: Kebab Spider on March 06, 2020, 12:01:53 am
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Post by: colesey on March 06, 2020, 10:49:43 am
Post by: pudding on March 06, 2020, 03:38:55 pm
I've run 2+ with that intercooler and monitored intake temps very closely, and they were absolutely fine.
Post by: chumeta on April 16, 2020, 08:23:27 pm
617x418x32 golf gti,leon fr, A3. (all 200cv) ref 1K0145803 S
626x405x32 golf gti ed, R6, cupra 240 and 265, and some S3 1K0145803AK
S3 616x409x40 S3 ALL ALUMINIUM 1K0145803P
Post by: pudding on April 24, 2020, 05:35:36 pm
Post by: WolfsburgEd on May 22, 2020, 04:09:42 pm
Post by: pudding on May 22, 2020, 08:05:50 pm
Post by: WolfsburgEd on May 22, 2020, 08:53:28 pm
I've only just come back into all this lark - where would you get a genuine new one at that price from then?
Post by: asd30l on May 23, 2020, 09:05:03 am
sorry to drag this thread on a bit longer ... but does anybody have any experience of Nissens aftermarket intercoolers? I have been made aware that they do one with alloy ends for the S3 with equivalent part number 1K0145803P and about £250... How bad can it be as an upgrade??
I fitted the nissens one as i couldnt find a used S3/6R IC and it seems fine. Only issue i had was the screw for the AC pipes on the side didn't line up. Just seen this on Ebay which i believe is the one off the 6R
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/402183764460
Post by: pudding on May 23, 2020, 09:34:41 pm
I get the thing with the end tanks - I've just not even seen plastic ended new IC's at that price and saw this one.
I've only just come back into all this lark - where would you get a genuine new one at that price from then?
From the dealer. That's what I paid a few years back. Not sure what the price is now but I was quite surprised an OEM S3 cooler was that cheap. Audi moved from ally ends to plastic in 2009.....but to compensate they improved the main core, which is more important than the end tank material.
Post by: Robmk95gti on January 12, 2021, 08:43:04 pm
Post by: pudding on January 15, 2021, 08:43:34 pm
1) OEM driveshafts are capable of handling significantly more than 400nm. But if you really insist - I recommend 'Driveshaft shop' in America.
2) AXX can't make 300+ on the stock turbo.
3) Borg Warner quoted maximum flow rates:
K04 = 330 crank power.
K03 = 260 crank power.
4) Figures over those numbers are fabricated dyno coast down correction lies.
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