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Title: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 13, 2010, 11:38:20 am
Just a quick question..

When I had the Bilsteins fitted in March, I kept my original suspension. Its been sitting inside the house in a box for the last 10 months.

Will it be ok to go back onto the car, or is it going to need reconditioning? Will it have seized up? Any advice from someone who has done something similar is welcome  :happy2:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: P10YRS on January 13, 2010, 11:44:25 am
i put my standard suspension on back in november and didnt do nuthink just bolted back into place and it seems fine.

Ash.
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: 182_blue on January 13, 2010, 11:57:32 am
Probably be in better condition than if they had been on the car all that time
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: scarpicus on January 13, 2010, 12:10:14 pm
i put my standard suspension on back in november and didnt do nuthink just bolted back into place and it seems fine.

Ash.

ash wats it been like being back at 4x4 height after being so low.... :sad1:

Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: scarpicus on January 13, 2010, 12:11:44 pm
Just a quick question..

When I had the Bilsteins fitted in March, I kept my original suspension. Its been sitting inside the house in a box for the last 10 months.

Will it be ok to go back onto the car, or is it going to need reconditioning? Will it have seized up? Any advice from someone who has done something similar is welcome  :happy2:

whiteGTi are u another one selling ur car....... :sad1:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: P10YRS on January 13, 2010, 12:18:00 pm
Its ok in the snow like a tractor....

I dont mind i cant wait to pick up my new car.  :wink:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: JPC on January 13, 2010, 12:19:45 pm
what you getting ash?
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: scarpicus on January 13, 2010, 12:22:44 pm
Its ok in the snow like a tractor....

I dont mind i cant wait to pick up my new car.  :wink:

i'm guessing its either mk6 gti or a scirocco

if its a scirocco are u going to mod it anything like this...
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi364.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo81%2Fscarpicus%2Fauulp0lnv9.jpg&hash=ec8b3f49b89358448e064d9ddee029fba14e5495)...... :jumping:

Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 13, 2010, 12:24:29 pm
Just a quick question..

When I had the Bilsteins fitted in March, I kept my original suspension. Its been sitting inside the house in a box for the last 10 months.

Will it be ok to go back onto the car, or is it going to need reconditioning? Will it have seized up? Any advice from someone who has done something similar is welcome  :happy2:

whiteGTi are u another one selling ur car....... :sad1:

Yeah in about April/May time, don't want to sell it really but the lure of an E46 M3 is too strong  :smiley:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: P10YRS on January 13, 2010, 12:30:59 pm
3 dr MK6 GTI in white  :party:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: scarpicus on January 13, 2010, 12:45:40 pm
sad to see u go whiteGTi ur car has been one of my favourite cars on the forum..... :happy2:

and Ash look forward to seeing what you do with the mk6... :smiley:

can't wait to see a dropped mk6.... :signLOL:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 13, 2010, 01:58:51 pm
i put my standard suspension on back in november and didnt do nuthink just bolted back into place and it seems fine.

Ash.

Ash - how long had your OEM suspension been off the car for?
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: animal on January 13, 2010, 02:02:32 pm
i put my standard suspension on back in november and didnt do nuthink just bolted back into place and it seems fine.

Ash.

Ash - how long had your OEM suspension been off the car for?

It'll be fine! I had the springs and dampers off my old Focus for the best part of two years and they were just sat in a box in the garage. If they can take daily punishment on the road, they'll be fine having been in storage for a while. Bodes well for the next owner too as it means the suspension has done less mileage than the rest of the car - which for OEM dampers, is a good thing!
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 13, 2010, 02:10:26 pm
Brilliant, thanks animal! Just needed a conclusive statement like that stating that someone else has done the same as me and had their suspension off for a long period of time!

Good to know because the last thing i would want to do is potentially sell on an unsafe car!  :smiley: :happy2:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 13, 2010, 02:14:07 pm
sad to see u go whiteGTi ur car has been one of my favourite cars on the forum..... :happy2:

and Ash look forward to seeing what you do with the mk6... :smiley:

can't wait to see a dropped mk6.... :signLOL:

Cheers Scarpius  :embarrassed: Some love it, some hate it! Some days i regret the vinyl, some days i love the vinyl. If i were to do it all again I would definitely go down the more traditional path with the car. The M3 won't be following the same "racing" "chavvy" look as the Golf, it will be done as a show car! Just need to start saving for some 19" BBS LM's now....which I'm not looking forward to!!!!
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: RedRobin on January 13, 2010, 02:40:40 pm
^^^^
Oi!! Chris! No way does your GTI look at all "chavvy"!

I'm surprised - I thought you were more of a driver than a show person.
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: prepree on January 13, 2010, 02:44:31 pm
Going in chris's car was awesome! Very well set up and sounds amazing!! I want your APR!!

Again as RR says not chavy at all imo, if you had used burberry vinyl id have to say yes!  :happy2:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 13, 2010, 02:54:35 pm
Well, personally I don't think its chavvy at all, I think it looks purposeful and aggressive, but there have been comments made by people in the past suggesting/implying that they think its a bit chavvy. And it wouldn't be a reflection on me either because I couldn't be further from being a chav (incase anyone wondered haha!)

Yes Robin, I'm definitely a driver, maybe "show car" was the wrong words. I've been surfing the M3 forums for a while now, and so many people just completely ruin the car by just putting aggressive looking/chrome/deep dish/more track orientated wheels on the car - particularly the Yanks. IMO it just ruins the car totally!! You would be surprised to see some of these examples, they make me feel sick!! I just don't think that the 'racing' or 'track' look suits the M3.

My thought with the BBS LM's is that they are a very strong, well made wheel, and I gather are lighter than the stock wheels too. The car will also be put on coilovers, all bushes done, uprated front strut brace etc etc etc so it will definitely be able to handle well. It will look like a "show car" with respect to putting the LM's on which look very classy, slamming it on the coils and a few subtle bodywork changes (no new splitters/bumpers, just subtle changes!)

I'll be sure to put a build thread on here if the mods will let me. I don't really want to leave this community!

 :smiley: :smiley:

 
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: Greeners on January 13, 2010, 03:03:31 pm
I think you'll find Chris it's people who don't know any better that use that word when it comes to modifying your car!

I've had mine called chavvy in the past too but I just laugh as I know better!  :wink:

PS, your not leaving............................. even if you wanted too!  :laugh:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: P10YRS on January 13, 2010, 03:10:24 pm
i put my standard suspension on back in november and didnt do nuthink just bolted back into place and it seems fine.

Ash.

Ash - how long had your OEM suspension been off the car for?

They have been off the car 6 months.. i wouldnt worry to much if your getting a new car.
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 13, 2010, 03:17:14 pm
I think you'll find Chris it's people who don't know any better that use that word when it comes to modifying your car!

I've had mine called chavvy in the past too but I just laugh as I know better!  :wink:

PS, your not leaving............................. even if you wanted too!  :laugh:

Good point Nath!

Haha, good to hear  :jumpmove: :jumpmove:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 13, 2010, 03:17:32 pm
i put my standard suspension on back in november and didnt do nuthink just bolted back into place and it seems fine.

Ash.

Ash - how long had your OEM suspension been off the car for?

They have been off the car 6 months.. i wouldnt worry to much if your getting a new car.

Thanks mate  :happy2:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: tony_danza on January 13, 2010, 03:34:43 pm
Track look works when it's done for a purpose....

Someone I know's CS. Caged, carbon roof'd, AP'd, lightened etc etc - goes super well!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fff158%2Fgarethhughes_bucket%2F023-1.jpg&hash=1db01369ee3e5dcbf372936151be0622e3e94b34)
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 13, 2010, 03:46:12 pm
That does look lovely! I'll admit, the track look does work when fitted with the OEM 18" wheels as pictured above. Its when people mess with other manufacturer wheels where I think it starts to look trashy. If i saw an M3 for sale fitted with the 18"s and it was the right overall spec I'd buy it in a heartbeat over one fitted with the 19"s.

Alternatively, putting the CSL wheels onto an M3 looks superb, but its becoming such a cliché...I would say around 70% of people on the forums just do that. It looks fantastic, I'll admit, they really are great looking wheels (and very light too), but it would just be too much like 'following the crowd' for my liking. Plus the fact that I want it in Silver Grey - so by putting CSL wheels on it, I don't want the car to be looked upon as a CSL 'wannabe'!
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: animal on January 13, 2010, 03:51:05 pm
Track look works when it's done for a purpose....

Someone I know's CS. Caged, carbon roof'd, AP'd, lightened etc etc - goes super well!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fff158%2Fgarethhughes_bucket%2F023-1.jpg&hash=1db01369ee3e5dcbf372936151be0622e3e94b34)

That's the way to do it. The CS/CSL/GTS is what the M3 is really all about - IMHO.

Is it my screen, or is that a Q plate?
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: tony_danza on January 13, 2010, 03:56:52 pm
Yeah it's a Q - was bought purely to be a track car, so when a cheap stolen/recovered (iirc) turned up, t'was too good to resist.

CSLs are great and I'd have one in a heartbeat, but I can't get on with that SMG 'box having driven DSG. So, a nice CS for me and semi prepped so it was still comfy but had purpose.

CSL wheels are a no-no unless they're real. Magnesium FTW!
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: animal on January 13, 2010, 04:03:25 pm
A bonafide "Q Car" then! I like.  :happy2:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 13, 2010, 04:14:50 pm
CSLs are great and I'd have one in a heartbeat, but I can't get on with that SMG 'box having driven DSG. So, a nice CS for me and semi prepped so it was still comfy but had purpose.

CSL wheels are a no-no unless they're real. Magnesium FTW!

100% agree! I can't get on with SMG either. Definitely must go for real CSL's yes. Even the wheels on the CS (which look exact to the CSL wheels) are not as light - I assume they are only made of alloy!
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: RedRobin on January 13, 2010, 04:59:30 pm
....

This is the real reason you're getting a BMW isn't it Chris  :evilgrin: : -

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffiles.posterous.com%2Fnischal%2Ft3tKAhDF4zS1AURPLDuWtaM5Hw1h7Pq5yNgF7aafk3UYzZIMzEh7NWpvu9kz%2Funknownname.jpg.scaled.500.jpg%3FAWSAccessKeyId%3D1C9REJR1EMRZ83Q7QRG2%26amp%3BExpires%3D1263408051%26amp%3BSignature%3DmQ%252FrkdJMEBXE1vd07%252BUtIgCeI44%253D&hash=065140c88666c99a85d2a09911d5a3512295581d)

I love BMW's too. That CSL/M3 series is very elegant and a future classic  :notworthy:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 13, 2010, 05:49:39 pm
Sorry Robin, I can't view the pic because I'm not a member on Tyresmoke!

Hurry up and fix it because I'm curious as to what the picture is showing hahaha!!!!  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: matsu on January 13, 2010, 05:56:30 pm
no way is ur car chavvy mate-proppa track day :evilgrin:

and if you were to sell the stock springs how much would they go for?
just out of interest and not hijack thread-if it does just ignore question.
thanks
matsu
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 13, 2010, 06:18:33 pm
I'm not sure matsu. Numerous people on here have tried to sell stock springs and dampers but I don't believe many (if any) have actually sold. It seems that there isn't much of a market out there for them. Right after my Bilsteins were fitted I tried selling them on here, and had no luck whatsoever, then I tried selling them on ukmkivs.net - hoping that perhaps someone with a lower spec Golf might either be building a GTI replica or wanted a 10mm drop only, but yet again there was no interest shown in them whatsoever!

Sorry mate.  :smiley:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: animal on January 13, 2010, 06:21:25 pm
You're much better off keeping them for when the time comes to move on.
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: P10YRS on January 13, 2010, 06:22:09 pm
no way is ur car chavvy mate-proppa track day :evilgrin:

and if you were to sell the stock springs how much would they go for?
just out of interest and not hijack thread-if it does just ignore question.
thanks
matsu

I have just sold a full set of standard R32 suspension on ebay for £150..

Try ebay.
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 13, 2010, 06:22:42 pm
You're much better off keeping them for when the time comes to move on.

Agreed  :happy2:

I'm so happy that mine didn't sell, because it's made my life so much easier! In hindsight I should have also kept my Monza II's and the original exhaust. Although I think I'll be ok with the exhaust, the wheels are causing an issue lol!
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: RedRobin on January 13, 2010, 06:37:51 pm
Sorry Robin, I can't view the pic because I'm not a member on Tyresmoke!

Hurry up and fix it because I'm curious as to what the picture is showing hahaha!!!!  :grin: :grin:

....Bloody Tyresmoke! Why do they do that? I always crack it.

Fixed - I hope you enjoy.  :happy2:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: prepree on January 13, 2010, 06:48:18 pm
This picture really makes me want the TD's and i have your old monzas!! Have you sold the blisteins yet?

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3526%2F3778133018_536512425e_b.jpg&hash=7b5e089f2f11e18a4e3d75b01c5487934b38756c)
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: Top Cat on January 13, 2010, 07:08:32 pm
See Chris it worked out ok, not being able to sell your original suspension.  :wink:

I hope you will put your Beamer build thread on here for us to look at, should be a great read.   :drinking:

And its really only ever been you doubting your mods all the time, most on here have agreed with all your mods.
 You have got to remember when your the first or one of them to do new mods you have to expect lots of raised eyebrows  :star:

I dont think anyone thought it was Chavvy.   :happy2:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: animal on January 13, 2010, 07:10:37 pm
Chris, is that the standard splitter and skirts painted? Looks good. What's with the dodgy re-touch beneath the N/S headlight?

Robin - I still can't see the link, even if I copy and paste it into the address bar.
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 13, 2010, 07:10:49 pm
Robin - the picture doesn't show and when i click on it to open in another window I get this: "AccessDeniedRequest has expired23F3F4D9A5DAD9CB2010-01-13T18:40:51ZmKTOKk8pqIWrNqxc4VOlNhK3AxoEO7Eth5yPwHRoTc9bE0kPcoqTGALnjWCx//S02010-01-13T19:06:56Z"

Nick - Basically, the suspension and the exhaust are on hold for cmdrfire as he was the first person to enquire about them when they were advertised in my signature. I agreed to contact him when they are available. IIRC you are third in line? Or maybe second...I can't remember at this present time but I have it all as evidence in my PM Inbox, so obviously I would consult that to find out the order of people if cmdrfire no longer wants them!

Hahaha, you're more than welcome to the TD's, you would love how they drive  :smiley:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 13, 2010, 07:12:26 pm
See Chris it worked out ok, not being able to sell your original suspension.  :wink:

I hope you will put your Beamer build thread on here for us to look at, should be a great read.   :drinking:

And its really only ever been you doubting your mods all the time, most on here have agreed with all your mods.
 You have got to remember when your the first or one of them to do new mods you have to expect lots of raised eyebrows  :star:

I dont think anyone thought it was Chavvy.   :happy2:

Cheers TC  :drinking:

Actually, this is my fault for not making myself clear.....the majority of the comments came from outside this forum and from friends/friends of friends/3rd party comments that i occasionally hear. I know that most on here 'get' what my car is all about, but I guess that people in the outside world may not quite understand it - as per what Greenouse said!
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 13, 2010, 07:15:21 pm
Chris, is that the standard splitter and skirts painted? Looks good. What's with the dodgy re-touch beneath the N/S headlight?

Robin - I still can't see the link, even if I copy and paste it into the address bar.

Yep thats the standard splitter and skirts just colour-coded!

The dodgy re-touch is a photoshop edit because my numberplate is there! The bonnet vinyl really screams for the continuation of the black onto the front mask, and with the white numberplate on there it just broke up the black and looked out of place IMO! So i re-located it to under the N/S headlight. It is a sticker plate, completely illegal as the font size is too small, and it is non-reflective. I appreciate that the positioning does not look the best, but (bit like an Alfa), but i prefer the gain from having the front all black  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: john_o on January 13, 2010, 07:21:38 pm
always loved your car m8  :happy2:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: gobbleplease on January 13, 2010, 11:26:29 pm
Great choice in the new motor BTW i loved my E46 M3, you will need to have deep pockets for the M modding game though.
the best MODs i done to the M3 were Eisenmann Race exhaust and i can recommend the HSD coilovers Brilliant, Upgrading your brakes should be top of the list though (if you like a track day or two)

a liitle list of things to watch out for.

Rough Diff (can some times be fixed with an updated oil) although many have required a new diff 2.5K
Seized caliper ( Very Common )
Watch out for cracked subframes ( reasonably Common and a 4-8K Fix )
Rust under the door catch cover.
Trailing arm bush ware, If fecked i would recommend upgrading to OEM CSL bushes With rouge engineering Bush limiters, this keeps OEM comfort with Poly ridgidity.

You are gong to love It mate, best car ever. I just found it to expensive to get it the way i wanted it, it easily could of absorbed 10k, roll in the GTI :laugh:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: RedRobin on January 13, 2010, 11:34:06 pm
....

Here we go, Chris - The reason you're buying a BMW : -

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FHotties%2FBMW_ad.png&hash=d77b90baee6e0b3695cec386bf4f201b5ce65139)

It's now on my server so should be fine!
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: WhiteGTI on January 14, 2010, 12:03:56 pm
Great choice in the new motor BTW i loved my E46 M3, you will need to have deep pockets for the M modding game though.
the best MODs i done to the M3 were Eisenmann Race exhaust and i can recommend the HSD coilovers Brilliant, Upgrading your brakes should be top of the list though (if you like a track day or two)

a liitle list of things to watch out for.

Rough Diff (can some times be fixed with an updated oil) although many have required a new diff 2.5K
Seized caliper ( Very Common )
Watch out for cracked subframes ( reasonably Common and a 4-8K Fix )
Rust under the door catch cover.
Trailing arm bush ware, If fecked i would recommend upgrading to OEM CSL bushes With rouge engineering Bush limiters, this keeps OEM comfort with Poly ridgidity.

You are gong to love It mate, best car ever. I just found it to expensive to get it the way i wanted it, it easily could of absorbed 10k, roll in the GTI :laugh:

Cheers for that gobbleplease, I've gathered most of that from reading the forums loosely, although didn't know about the door catch cover and seized calipers!! You'll probably see quite a few PM's coming your way in the future asking some questions!  :smiley:

Robin - she is very tasty indeed!  :drool:
Title: Re: OEM suspension going back onto the car in a couple of months....
Post by: gobbleplease on January 14, 2010, 06:32:26 pm
No bother mate !

It cost me £350 from bmw to get the rust under the door catch / Pillar fixed, and honestly about 80% of them suffer from it,
you need to remove the plastic catch cover to see it unless it is really bad and you will probably see it with out removing the cover.

My one also had a seized caliper, but as it required pads and disks at the same time i took this oppertunity to upgrade to the larger CSL Disks ect, braided hoses, Performance fricton pads and SRF. Just look out for discoulouration on the calipers as this could indicate that it has seized previous and been repaired, which alot have been. This does not last long as new pistons are not available for this particular caliper and means that a lot of people just polish the piston and replace the seals, but this will only last a few months in the winter, as the rust just builds up quickly on the piston. I repaired mine twice and it only lasted a few months. Otherwise a caiper will cost you about £280.

apart from this the cars are pretty bompproof, but expensive to maintain, you will know this already though, the Lms are sweet too, I had the CSLs on wine but the car drives alot nicer with the OEM 18"ers, its just a pitty they look horrible though.