MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: pudding on November 25, 2016, 05:20:16 pm
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Just seen this https://www.awesomegti.com/shop-by-car/audi/a3-8p/the-turbo-engineers-tte420-hybrid-ko4-turbo-charger/
I don't know if that's their Black Friday price, but at £280 cheaper than it was yesterday, I've just bought one!
Happy Christmas Eddy :laugh:
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Speak too me i can get them at 1400£ :happy2:
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Speak too me i can get them at 1400£ :happy2:
:drool:
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Speak too me i can get them at 1400£ :happy2:
do u work for simon ?
TTE 420 £1400?
TTE 480 £ ?
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Hmm
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hmmm Not work exactly. :happy2: Just good friends.
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hmmm Not work exactly. :happy2: Just good friends.
good to know sir
can i be your friend mates rates :drinking:
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Sure! :wink:
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Speak too me i can get them at 1400£ :happy2:
Lol, too late as I already bought it :grin: I've been peeking at the TT420 for a couple of years now, so that was just an impulse buy when I saw it. Cheers for the offer though :happy2:
Just to clear up some confusion......by default, do TTE supply these based on brand new Borg Warner turbos, or from used cores? Their sales blurb certainly suggests the former, but I've seen Simon post on various forums 2 prices - 2500 euros for a new unit, and 1600 ish euro for a rebuilt s/hand unit. I'm just wary of paying for a brand new unit and being pedaled a used one, that's all :smiley:
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^^^^ It will be a brand new unit :happy2:
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I've just bought one!
Happy Christmas Eddy :laugh:
Congratulations mate :jumpmove: :pomppomp:
Keep us posted how you get on with it :happy2:
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^^^^ It will be a brand new unit :happy2:
Sweet :smiley: You're already running one from what I gather? Are you loving it so far? Living the turbo dream? :smiley:
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I've just bought one!
Happy Christmas Eddy :laugh:
Congratulations mate :jumpmove: :pomppomp:
Keep us posted how you get on with it :happy2:
Cheers mate, and will do!
Believe it or not, I will be running it with the standard air box and cat back :grin:
I know that sounds like a waste but peak numbers don't motivate me, it's more the fatter power band I'm after and a turbo that can make the same power as a strung out K04, but at a more relaxed boost pressure, so probs aim for about 360-370hp :smiley:
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The exchange process is basically hand in your unit and they give you a fully reconditioned turbo back in return, the more expensive price is a brand new unit.
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^^^^ It will be a brand new unit :happy2:
Sweet :smiley: You're already running one from what I gather? Are you loving it so far? Living the turbo dream? :smiley:
I am indeed :driver: :driver: :love: It's an amazing bit of kit. I should have posted in the other thread, but i got side tracked.
I was running ko4 2+ for 3 years before the switch, same hardware, bar the extra fueling bits needed and it's a completely different car, mid range pull is just insane :rolleye:
You won't be disappointed :happy2:
I've not raced a stage 2+ ko4, i don't need to, from my own experience, and i'm no willy waver, there's no comparison and there's no "just pulling away" even when rolling, my new car would eat my old one :wink:
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^^^^ It will be a brand new unit :happy2:
Sweet :smiley: You're already running one from what I gather? Are you loving it so far? Living the turbo dream? :smiley:
I am indeed :driver: :driver: :love: It's an amazing bit of kit. I should have posted in the other thread, but i got side tracked.
I was running ko4 2+ for 3 years before the switch, same hardware, bar the extra fueling bits needed and it's a completely different car, mid range pull is just insane :rolleye:
You won't be disappointed :happy2:
I've not raced a stage 2+ ko4, i don't need to, from my own experience, and i'm no willy waver, there's no comparison and there's no "just pulling away" even when rolling, my new car would eat my old one :wink:
FFS now I gotta fund a Hybrid instead of a k04 rebuild lol
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I've just bought one!
Happy Christmas Eddy :laugh:
Congratulations mate :jumpmove: :pomppomp:
Keep us posted how you get on with it :happy2:
Cheers mate, and will do!
Believe it or not, I will be running it with the standard air box and cat back :grin:
I know that sounds like a waste but peak numbers don't motivate me, it's more the fatter power band I'm after and a turbo that can make the same power as a strung out K04, but at a more relaxed boost pressure, so probs aim for about 360-370hp :smiley:
I totally understand where your coming from pal. Im running stock catback aswell im and more than happy with the sound of it. dont want it any louder. I do recall Niki stating that the backbox causes a restriction at 330ish but dont quote me on that. The standard air box may be a problem but im sure you cant be the only person looking at big power on a stock airbox.
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I am pretty sure Niki won't be a fan of trying to squeeze a useful improvement out of a 420 over a K04 with that setup. From the conversation I had with him I think a few raised eyebrows will be seen to say the least. I had a stage 2+ map at Rtech, with VWR intake and a full miltek system. I asked in passing about what a 420 offer and he said the intake and exhaust would restrict the benefit of that, and that simply bolting a higher flow turbo on would not yield what people think. Essentially every other part of the system needs to be optimised before the 420 would be of benefit over a K04.
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^^^^ It will be a brand new unit :happy2:
Sweet :smiley: You're already running one from what I gather? Are you loving it so far? Living the turbo dream? :smiley:
I am indeed :driver: :driver: :love: It's an amazing bit of kit. I should have posted in the other thread, but i got side tracked.
I was running ko4 2+ for 3 years before the switch, same hardware, bar the extra fueling bits needed and it's a completely different car, mid range pull is just insane :rolleye:
You won't be disappointed :happy2:
I've not raced a stage 2+ ko4, i don't need to, from my own experience, and i'm no willy waver, there's no comparison and there's no "just pulling away" even when rolling, my new car would eat my old one :wink:
FFS now I gotta fund a Hybrid instead of a k04 rebuild lol
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That's kind of where I was at. Buy a new OEM turbo, or dig a bit deeper and go hybrid. In for a penny, in for a pound :happy2:
Based on Orc's and Freddy's endorsements, I'm confident I made the right choice :smiley:
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I am pretty sure Niki won't be a fan of trying to squeeze a useful improvement out of a 420 over a K04 with that setup. From the conversation I had with him I think a few raised eyebrows will be seen to say the least. I had a stage 2+ map at Rtech, with VWR intake and a full miltek system. I asked in passing about what a 420 offer and he said the intake and exhaust would restrict the benefit of that, and that simply bolting a higher flow turbo on would not yield what people think. Essentially every other part of the system needs to be optimised before the 420 would be of benefit over a K04.
I won't be using R-Tech for the mapping, so he needn't waste any energy raising his eyebrows :grin: I hope this doesn't sound snotty as it's not meant to, but I'm not someone who takes what one tuner says as gospel, especially not when I have my own experience of turbo sizing from previous projects :smiley:
There will always be people like me who challenge convention and want to follow their own path, as much as it may grate on people :grin:
Above all, playing with this stuff is more of a hobby and I like experimenting. Have many people run a TT420 at 3/4 of it's ability with the factory intake and exhaust? I seriously doubt it, so let me take one for the team just for schitts and giggles :grin: It'll be fun!
And based on previous projects, I'm also mindful of gearbox limitations and my car being a daily. I'd much rather take a daily reliable 350hp than a seriously compromised 450hp that's short lived.
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Mate, no need to justify yourself. Dare I say it.... wait for it.....
I didn't like the Rtech map and went back to Revo (wait for the fan boys to step in) haha, but the Revo map was much better for me. Chasing headline numbers Rtech was better but the car felt faster and was more fun on Revo.
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Pudding, if you're sticking with the oem downpipe and cats just do some logging and make sure your EGTs are in check. Can't see an issue with running a TTE on low boost myself if you're not in the numbers game. Although if it was me I'd at least be looking to free things up a little at the downpipe.
I'd imagine your mapper could get it spooling nice and early without having to concentrate on peak power.
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Mate, no need to justify yourself. Dare I say it.... wait for it.....
I didn't like the Rtech map and went back to Revo (wait for the fan boys to step in) haha, but the Revo map was much better for me. Chasing headline numbers Rtech was better but the car felt faster and was more fun on Revo.
Most of the mods we do are down to personal taste and opinion really
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Agreed :happy2:
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Mate, no need to justify yourself. Dare I say it.... wait for it.....
I didn't like the Rtech map and went back to Revo (wait for the fan boys to step in) haha, but the Revo map was much better for me. Chasing headline numbers Rtech was better but the car felt faster and was more fun on Revo.
Thats an interesting one. whats the comparison on the two? I was under the impression that Rtech maps are linear but more consistent, where are revo was more low end and faded out top end?
Im just asking as I have only had a Rtech map in the past so i have nothing to compare it to
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Putting on a tte420 turbo to make 350 is a bit daft as you can get that easy with a k04.
I think you'll hit a limit of exhaust flow and egt with the Oem downpipe
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Cheers mate, and will do!
Believe it or not, I will be running it with the standard air box and cat back :grin:
I know that sounds like a waste but peak numbers don't motivate me, it's more the fatter power band I'm after and a turbo that can make the same power as a strung out K04, but at a more relaxed boost pressure, so probs aim for about 360-370hp :smiley:
I love this idea! Mega stealth mode! Love it :happy2:
Standard appearing Ed30 even when you open the bonnet; Check :happy2:
Big chubby unexpected slug of torque in the midrange; Check :happy2:
No stupid huffing and puffing from the airbox (I've an oversized Ramair and it makes an awful racket - but for some reason I kind of perversely like it :laugh:); Check :happy2:
OEM level of exhaust noise; Check :happy2:
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My bad, I should have stated my car already has an APR 3" DP + Sport cat on it and is stage 1 tuned :happy2:
I would never entertain the idea of a standard DP with the 420 :smiley: Anyone who has bashed the pre-cat out of one will have seen the crazy bottleneck where the cat bore diameter funnels down to a triangular shaped super restriction.
The Helix, Loba pump, DV+ etc are also already in place, so it's just a case of throwing the 420 on and driving it slowly up to my mapper for some N75 & fuel rail pressure tweakage.
So I suppose the only standard bits remaining are the airbox and the cat back exhaust section. Upgrading these 2 parts will yield comparatively smaller gains overall compared to the DP and turbo, but if they prove to be extremely impactful to performance, I will of course weigh up my options, but initially I am keen to see what a TTE can do as is :smiley:
350hp from a TTE420 vs a KO4 is not daft at all imo. Look at the size of the turbine and compressor wheels on the TTE compared to K04. Masses more flow. This will give a broader torque band and will achieve the same peak hp from less boost, meaning longer turbo bearing life and less stress on pistons and rods. A slight increase in spool up time is easier on the gearbox too.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fp613%2FTheTurboEngineers%2FK16-Vs-K04-TFSI-2_zpsd2aa940c.jpg&hash=7769fca96480472b300da5dc523703163e2991c5)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fp613%2FTheTurboEngineers%2F20150508_183545_resized_zpsomy2k5oq.jpg&hash=8fb58fbcdd6c78aead4a4a3117d04e2c1d28bf51)
Madone, I agree with you on Revo. I really liked the feel of their Stage 1 map. I think it's partly down to them retaining the OEM non-linear throttle map and also the way they ramp up the boost aggressively. I like it :happy2:
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Cheers mate, and will do!
Believe it or not, I will be running it with the standard air box and cat back :grin:
I know that sounds like a waste but peak numbers don't motivate me, it's more the fatter power band I'm after and a turbo that can make the same power as a strung out K04, but at a more relaxed boost pressure, so probs aim for about 360-370hp :smiley:
I love this idea! Mega stealth mode! Love it :happy2:
Standard appearing Ed30 even when you open the bonnet; Check :happy2:
Big chubby unexpected slug of torque in the midrange; Check :happy2:
No stupid huffing and puffing from the airbox (I've an oversized Ramair and it makes an awful racket - but for some reason I kind of perversely like it :laugh:); Check :happy2:
OEM level of exhaust noise; Check :happy2:
Amen to all of that :grin:
Here is a previous project where I was told a 2.5" exhaust and factory airbox would be a really bad idea, but was actually a very epic machine indeed! Really miss it actually, it was bonkers fast :laugh: Younger viewers may not recognise the car, but it's a Corrado VR6, and the turbo is a GT35R, which is a superb turbo for reliability, spool and sheer grunt.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkevhaywire%2FForum_Gallery%2FImg_0015.jpg&hash=7fcf739187e471d8915e01c0b720c8ef9c223360)
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Cheers mate, and will do!
Believe it or not, I will be running it with the standard air box and cat back :grin:
I know that sounds like a waste but peak numbers don't motivate me, it's more the fatter power band I'm after and a turbo that can make the same power as a strung out K04, but at a more relaxed boost pressure, so probs aim for about 360-370hp :smiley:
I love this idea! Mega stealth mode! Love it :happy2:
Standard appearing Ed30 even when you open the bonnet; Check :happy2:
Big chubby unexpected slug of torque in the midrange; Check :happy2:
No stupid huffing and puffing from the airbox (I've an oversized Ramair and it makes an awful racket - but for some reason I kind of perversely like it :laugh:); Check :happy2:
OEM level of exhaust noise; Check :happy2:
Amen to all of that :grin:
Here is a previous project where I was told a 2.5" exhaust and factory airbox would be a really bad idea, but was actually a very epic machine indeed! Really miss it actually, it was bonkers fast :laugh: Younger viewers may not recognise the car, but it's a Corrado VR6, and the turbo is a GT35R, which is a superb turbo for reliability, spool and sheer grunt.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkevhaywire%2FForum_Gallery%2FImg_0015.jpg&hash=7fcf739187e471d8915e01c0b720c8ef9c223360)
Beast!!!
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Mate, no need to justify yourself. Dare I say it.... wait for it.....
I didn't like the Rtech map and went back to Revo (wait for the fan boys to step in) haha, but the Revo map was much better for me. Chasing headline numbers Rtech was better but the car felt faster and was more fun on Revo.
Thats an interesting one. whats the comparison on the two? I was under the impression that Rtech maps are linear but more consistent, where are revo was more low end and faded out top end?
Im just asking as I have only had a Rtech map in the past so i have nothing to compare it to
The Rtech map required more revs to get going, to get the most from it you had to drive it harder, the best of the Rtech map came after 3.5k, at which point it was pulling nearly 2bar of boost. The Revo map only every gave 1.7 max bit lower down. The Rtech map made it feel more like vetch type engine, needed more revs. No doubt it was fast, but it felt fastest when really braking the speed limit. The Revo map felt fast all the time.
People say Rtech maps are 'custom', that's not really true. Rtech tune 3 cars a day, 6 days a week, you aren't getting a custom map in 2.5 hours. You are getting a map tweaked to give max power with the HW you have. You only need to watch the car on the rollers to see just a series of WOT runs where max values are being optimised. Nothing wrong with that, people like them and they produce the numbers, but there is def some 'silver lining' around people talking about Rtech maps. People go straight to Rtech and don't even explore if that's the best map for them. Rtech maps offer one thing, Revo for example offer another, i def don't see Rtech being better or worse. Each has pros and cons
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Mate, no need to justify yourself. Dare I say it.... wait for it.....
I didn't like the Rtech map and went back to Revo (wait for the fan boys to step in) haha, but the Revo map was much better for me. Chasing headline numbers Rtech was better but the car felt faster and was more fun on Revo.
Thats fair enough, As I said I have nothing to compare to as I've only had a map by Rtech so cant compare for other software. No doubt Rtech isnt the only tuner who can do a decent tune. he even recommends other tunes too which is good. I guess it boils down to what you want as a customer. Most people just pass the keys over and let the tuner map the car how they want without stating how they want to car to performance eg, aggressive, lenear etc.
One thing I do like about Rtech is the switchable maps. not sure of any other tuners who can do this other than using revo SPS switch
Thats an interesting one. whats the comparison on the two? I was under the impression that Rtech maps are linear but more consistent, where are revo was more low end and faded out top end?
Im just asking as I have only had a Rtech map in the past so i have nothing to compare it to
The Rtech map required more revs to get going, to get the most from it you had to drive it harder, the best of the Rtech map came after 3.5k, at which point it was pulling nearly 2bar of boost. The Revo map only every gave 1.7 max bit lower down. The Rtech map made it feel more like vetch type engine, needed more revs. No doubt it was fast, but it felt fastest when really braking the speed limit. The Revo map felt fast all the time.
People say Rtech maps are 'custom', that's not really true. Rtech tune 3 cars a day, 6 days a week, you aren't getting a custom map in 2.5 hours. You are getting a map tweaked to give max power with the HW you have. You only need to watch the car on the rollers to see just a series of WOT runs where max values are being optimised. Nothing wrong with that, people like them and they produce the numbers, but there is def some 'silver lining' around people talking about Rtech maps. People go straight to Rtech and don't even explore if that's the best map for them. Rtech maps offer one thing, Revo for example offer another, i def don't see Rtech being better or worse. Each has pros and cons
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Mate, no need to justify yourself. Dare I say it.... wait for it.....
I didn't like the Rtech map and went back to Revo (wait for the fan boys to step in) haha, but the Revo map was much better for me. Chasing headline numbers Rtech was better but the car felt faster and was more fun on Revo.
Thats fair enough, As I said I have nothing to compare to as I've only had a map by Rtech so cant compare for other software. No doubt Rtech isnt the only tuner who can do a decent tune. he even recommends other tunes too which is good. I guess it boils down to what you want as a customer. Most people just pass the keys over and let the tuner map the car how they want without stating how they want to car to performance eg, aggressive, lenear etc.
One thing I do like about Rtech is the switchable maps. not sure of any other tuners who can do this other than using revo SPS switch
Thats an interesting one. whats the comparison on the two? I was under the impression that Rtech maps are linear but more consistent, where are revo was more low end and faded out top end?
Im just asking as I have only had a Rtech map in the past so i have nothing to compare it to
The Rtech map required more revs to get going, to get the most from it you had to drive it harder, the best of the Rtech map came after 3.5k, at which point it was pulling nearly 2bar of boost. The Revo map only every gave 1.7 max bit lower down. The Rtech map made it feel more like vetch type engine, needed more revs. No doubt it was fast, but it felt fastest when really braking the speed limit. The Revo map felt fast all the time.
People say Rtech maps are 'custom', that's not really true. Rtech tune 3 cars a day, 6 days a week, you aren't getting a custom map in 2.5 hours. You are getting a map tweaked to give max power with the HW you have. You only need to watch the car on the rollers to see just a series of WOT runs where max values are being optimised. Nothing wrong with that, people like them and they produce the numbers, but there is def some 'silver lining' around people talking about Rtech maps. People go straight to Rtech and don't even explore if that's the best map for them. Rtech maps offer one thing, Revo for example offer another, i def don't see Rtech being better or worse. Each has pros and cons
Retch don't do switchable maps on stage 2+ k04, I thought they did, but was told. It when I got the map done. The Revo sps works on all their maps. Being able to switch maps was also key for me
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Have you spoken to Nik to see if he can tweak your map to feel a bit more Revoish?
I concur with your thoughts. With KO4 engines at least, Revo feels punchier everywhere, even 'under the curve', better even than the factory map off boost. As you say, the custom map needs a much harder shove on the gas pedal, and more revs, to get the same effect. Having said that, my car was a wheel spinning beast at 3000rpm with the Revo tune. The custom map has moved wheel spin zone to around 3500rpm, but the car has enough momentum by then for it to not be too big a deal, especially in the dry.
As you say, different strokes for different folks :smiley: Personally I prefer my power served up Revo style. I believe they have a file for TT420 conversions, which could be worth a look.
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When I got my car mapped at Rtech they made it as Revo'ish as they could, also I don't have the linear throttle on either Revo or Rtech. As you say the Rtech map doesn't wheel spin as much as the torque arrives later. Revo feels like factory but better, Rtech feels like something different. Just looking at the way Rtech generates boost is very different. It holds about 1.5bar to about 3.5k then lobs in 2 bar, so it pulls like a train then, but as I said too have to work it more, which I don't like. With Rtech it felt the fastest on a slip road when you can get to 4K in 3rd, then it flew (until you got towards licence loosing speeds) same can be said of 6th gear on the motorway, Rtech didn't give the hard pull in 6th until about 80mph, whereas Revo pulled harder earlier. Same story really, more Revo more of the time. Rtech made more power but only felt it when you were really pushing on, which 90% of the time you can't do.
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Sounds like defecting back to Revo might be the answer then :smiley: It's just a pain getting to a dealer as they're no where near me. I wish you could do it online like Unitronic.
2 bar? Blimey! I didn't think he pushed KO4s much past 1.7 bar normally!
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I have seen 2 bar on the logs (peak), also ran some logs on the amount of timing pull..... hmmmmmm, let's just say I would have been wondering how much would have been pulled on a hot summers day.....
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Over what rpm / time frame did you see 2 bar? Probably just a spike. What does it normally level off to?
I wish there was a cost effective standalone that support direct injection and mechanical fuel pump control otherwise I would fit one and map it myself :smiley:
It's annoying you can't go back to a previous vendor's map too, so you have to shell out again if you want to go back to Revo. Or will they do you a returning customer deal?
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I went back to Revo for just the labor costs of them flashing back, didn't have to buy the map again. It would have been nice to have someway of reading the ecu and storing the image (like bluefin but for any map). I think you can buy the module which shark performance use (as it's not theirs) and store maps on it, but I didn't really look into it, and no doubt it won't be cheap.
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Here is a previous project where I was told a 2.5" exhaust and factory airbox would be a really bad idea, but was actually a very epic machine indeed! Really miss it actually, it was bonkers fast :laugh: Younger viewers may not recognise the car, but it's a Corrado VR6, and the turbo is a GT35R, which is a superb turbo for reliability, spool and sheer grunt.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkevhaywire%2FForum_Gallery%2FImg_0015.jpg&hash=7fcf739187e471d8915e01c0b720c8ef9c223360)
Dude :happy2:
What a beast! Is that a chargecooler I see? That must have been outstanding!!
A lot of work (and money :wink:) just there in that engine bay :happy2:
I had a Corrado VR6 in 1998! Yes, I am that old. It was an awesome car. It was the dark purple colour :love:
Unfortunately I ran out of talent on a mountain one day and bent it. Badly :sad1:
Complete write off. But.... Myself and my passenger were unhurt so that's really all that matters :happy2:
Rock on with your 420 dude.....
My dream is to end up TTE420 on my current MK5. Probably take me a couple of years to get there. At which point I'll hopefully be able to afford a 5 year old MK7 R to which I will immediately fit a TTE580 :rolleye: :rolleye:
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Here is a previous project where I was told a 2.5" exhaust and factory airbox would be a really bad idea, but was actually a very epic machine indeed! Really miss it actually, it was bonkers fast :laugh: Younger viewers may not recognise the car, but it's a Corrado VR6, and the turbo is a GT35R, which is a superb turbo for reliability, spool and sheer grunt.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkevhaywire%2FForum_Gallery%2FImg_0015.jpg&hash=7fcf739187e471d8915e01c0b720c8ef9c223360)
Dude :happy2:
What a beast! Is that a chargecooler I see? That must have been outstanding!!
A lot of work (and money :wink:) just there in that engine bay :happy2:
I had a Corrado VR6 in 1998! Yes, I am that old. It was an awesome car. It was the dark purple colour :love:
Unfortunately I ran out of talent on a mountain one day and bent it. Badly :sad1:
Complete write off. But.... Myself and my passenger were unhurt so that's really all that matters :happy2:
Rock on with your 420 dude.....
My dream is to end up TTE420 on my current MK5. Probably take me a couple of years to get there. At which point I'll hopefully be able to afford a 5 year old MK7 R to which I will immediately fit a TTE580 :rolleye: :rolleye:
That certainly is a chargecooler :happy2:
Haha I'm old too! It must be getting on for 10 years ago now that I started project VR6 Turbo...... jeez, where does the time go?! These were the days before high output TFSI, so proper old school engineering :grin:
Yeah lots of money, blood, sweat and tears went into that bad boy. Forged pistons, big valve head (Inconel exhaust valves), DTA S80 standalone ECU, Mazda RX8 injectors, and loads of other stuff. Most of the stuff was sourced from America and Stealth 'VR6 experts' Racing built the block :happy2:
It didn't start out with the factory airbox etc, I later evolved it to that because I'm not a fan of induction roar or droney exhausts. It was a proper stealth wagon and surprised a LOT of people, especially as it had a weedy 2.5" single tailpipe and no stickers or badges :grin:
I miss how it drove and it's power delivery. I guess I'm trying to recreate that sensation in my Ed30 with the TTE420.
Shame you bent yours! The Corrado is the only VW I've ever properly fallen for :love: Just something about them!
A TTE580 MK7 will be fun :happy2: I think by the time I get there, electric cars will have taken over and petrol banned :grin:
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What was you Vr6 running. absolute animal
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400hp @ 11psi (0.8 bar) mate :smiley:
You need more than double that boost pressure to make the same on the ED30 with a TTE420 :grin:
The turbo and engine were capable of 600hp but I limited it to 400hp/350lbft because with the O2A Corrado gearbox, any more and it will grenade itself.
I'm glad the MK5 has ESP and TC because you need it with that kind of grunt. The Corrado only had a Quaife diff in it but does nothing with that kind of power :grin:
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400hp @ 11psi (0.8 bar) mate :smiley:
You need more than double that boost pressure to make the same on the ED30 with a TTE420 :grin:
The turbo and engine were capable of 600hp but I limited it to 400hp/350lbft because with the O2A Corrado gearbox, any more and it will grenade itself.
I'm glad the MK5 has ESP and TC because you need it with that kind of grunt. The Corrado only had a Quaife diff in it but does nothing with that kind of power :grin:
Sounds like fun. Id love to drive one for just for giggles lol
When you planning to get the TTE fitted?
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400hp @ 11psi (0.8 bar) mate :smiley:
You need more than double that boost pressure to make the same on the ED30 with a TTE420 :grin:
The turbo and engine were capable of 600hp but I limited it to 400hp/350lbft because with the O2A Corrado gearbox, any more and it will grenade itself.
I'm glad the MK5 has ESP and TC because you need it with that kind of grunt. The Corrado only had a Quaife diff in it but does nothing with that kind of power :grin:
Sounds like fun. Id love to drive one for just for giggles lol
When you planning to get the TTE fitted?
I want to fit it myself to learn more about the engine, and then drive it up for mapping, so I will need to wait for the weather to warm up a bit!
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400hp @ 11psi (0.8 bar) mate :smiley:
....The Corrado only had a Quaife diff in it but does nothing with that kind of power :grin:
Awesome buddy :happy2:
You more than doubled the output of the VR6 :happy2:
Remind me; on the corrado the VR6 output was 174hp or 196hp or something? Can't remember :ashamed:
I am also interested to hear your thoughts on the quaife diff?
As the power climbs on my car I'm considering buying a quaife a peloquin or some such to try and temper the front end?
I would be interested to hear if you think that a worthwhile upgrade or not?
Cheers in advance,
Dave
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400hp @ 11psi (0.8 bar) mate :smiley:
....The Corrado only had a Quaife diff in it but does nothing with that kind of power :grin:
Awesome buddy :happy2:
You more than doubled the output of the VR6 :happy2:
Remind me; on the corrado the VR6 output was 174hp or 196hp or something? Can't remember :ashamed:
I am also interested to hear your thoughts on the quaife diff?
As the power climbs on my car I'm considering buying a quaife a peloquin or some such to try and temper the front end?
I would be interested to hear if you think that a worthwhile upgrade or not?
Cheers in advance,
Dave
190hp for the Corrado 2.9 and 174hp for the Golf 2.8 :happy2:
The Quaife didn't do a lot in my Corrado but it should work better in the MK5, and I would go for the Wavetrac personally :happy2:
Does the MK5's traction control brake a spinning wheel? If so, then yeah a diff would be a good move :smiley:
I'm saving that for when my gearbox needs a rebuild. I'm going to put a shorter final drive in it as well because the gearing is way too tall for my tastes :grin:
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No it doesn't work like that. No "e-diff"on the mk5
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That is a bit pants. So it's just engine cut then? Booooo.
Do you know if the MK6 has it and can be retrofitted?
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Cheers mate, and will do!
Believe it or not, I will be running it with the standard air box and cat back :grin:
I know that sounds like a waste but peak numbers don't motivate me, it's more the fatter power band I'm after and a turbo that can make the same power as a strung out K04, but at a more relaxed boost pressure, so probs aim for about 360-370hp :smiley:
I love this idea! Mega stealth mode! Love it :happy2:
Standard appearing Ed30 even when you open the bonnet; Check :happy2:
Big chubby unexpected slug of torque in the midrange; Check :happy2:
No stupid huffing and puffing from the airbox (I've an oversized Ramair and it makes an awful racket - but for some reason I kind of perversely like it :laugh:); Check :happy2:
OEM level of exhaust noise; Check :happy2:
Amen to all of that :grin:
Here is a previous project where I was told a 2.5" exhaust and factory airbox would be a really bad idea, but was actually a very epic machine indeed! Really miss it actually, it was bonkers fast :laugh: Younger viewers may not recognise the car, but it's a Corrado VR6, and the turbo is a GT35R, which is a superb turbo for reliability, spool and sheer grunt.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fkevhaywire%2FForum_Gallery%2FImg_0015.jpg&hash=7fcf739187e471d8915e01c0b720c8ef9c223360)
I remember following your build thread on vr6oc...absolutely amazing
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No it doesn't work like that. No "e-diff"on the mk5
Going by the 'farts' emitted from my exhaust when it kicks in I assume it's ignition cut of some sort?
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190hp for the Corrado 2.9 and 174hp for the Golf 2.8 :happy2:
The Quaife didn't do a lot in my Corrado but it should work better in the MK5, and I would go for the Wavetrac personally :happy2:
Cheers for the info brother :smiley: :happy2: