MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Eighteen88 on February 06, 2017, 03:23:08 pm
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Looking at using theses guys for my remap.
Anyone have any thoughts on these guys good or bad??
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I seem to remember a firm of the same or similar name claiming rather optimistic figures for their maps a good few years ago, in the mk4 days. I think it's safe to say there might be better options out there.
What engine have you got, and where are you based?
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Mk5 GT-Sport 2.0 TDi 170bhp as standard.
Based in the Scottish Borders.
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Hmmm. I don't have much experience with the 170. Maybe some of the derv boys can advise?
@xjay1337 @Andy @ashtdi
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Hmmm. I don't have much experience with the 170. Maybe some of the derv boys can advise?
@xjay1337 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=7542) @Andy (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=164) @ashtdi (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=11540)
Ok thanks, hopefully one of those guys can help me out.
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Did some mention me :laugh:
The 170 will map to 210 bhp but 220bhp if pushed...celtic tuning had a bit of a wobble in quoting figures but could be just forum talk
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Did some mention me :laugh:
They sure did!! :happy2:
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Know some companies won't map the 170 so check
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Know some companies won't map the 170 so check
Yea I've been in touch with a few I know that Star Performance in Scotland won't do it, however a few others have stated they will with Celtic Tuning being one that does, hoped someone might can give a bit of advise/info on them their FB page seems to have good reviews.
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My 2.0 140 caddy has a Celtic tuning remap, pulls like a train, quite an aggressive map, but I love it. Printout says 206bhp god knows what it is but I'll bet it's not far off that. :driver:
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My 2.0 140 caddy has a Celtic tuning remap, pulls like a train, quite an aggressive map, but I love it. Printout says 206bhp god knows what it is but I'll bet it's not far off that. :driver:
Have you ever had any issues with the caddy because of the remap?
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206bhp from a standard BKD? Not a chance.
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Says it all with claims like that. Car probably dynod at 170 hp standard
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Hi mate. Try autotek in gourock or ecutune in glasgow both get a decent name about here, but i've not used either for mapping.
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My 2.0 140 caddy has a Celtic tuning remap, pulls like a train, quite an aggressive map, but I love it. Printout says 206bhp god knows what it is but I'll bet it's not far off that. :driver:
Have you ever had any issues with the caddy because of the remap?
Nope, it's been fine, the DMF did explode killing the gearbox & clutch, but that was all happening long before the re map, the re map simply helped it!
I'd love to get it on a dyno to shut up all the ones saying it's BS, it's probably not 206 but as I said it's dam quick & the torque is unreal.
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Unless its had a bigger turbo fitted, it is not north of 200hp. You really think your mapped PD140 is as quick as a mapped PD170, which will produce around 200-210hp after a remap?
It is a sales figure and it works. The reality is the figure is lower but it doesn't mean its not a good map that makes the car fun to drive.
Peak torque numbers are easy to produce on a small framed turbo when you ramp the boost up at very low RPM. The problem with this is it makes the car feel a lot quicker than it is and induces a loss of traction. Making and holding that torque number across the whole rpm range is what makes a car quick
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Which can be depicted quite nicely with this remapped Leon CR 170 dyno plot.
Mental at 2250rpm, but has lost 200lbft by 4850rpm. A bit of a weapon for the daily commute. K04 TFSI does nothing until 2500rpm.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn1.bigcommerce.com%2Fserver3600%2Ff4487%2Fproduct_images%2Fuploaded_images%2Fleon-cr-2.0-tdi-170bhp-cega1.jpg%3Ft%3D1416607070&hash=2350e033bd510214a1f493cceb376f991352848a)
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No I don't believe it's more than a mapped pd170, it is fun though & that's all that matters I suppose. They shouldn't really give out pieces of paper stating 206bhp as surely that's a reason for comebacks on the sale? Shame it's going next week or I'd of had a run on the farnborough dyno, just out of pure interest.
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The thing is, there are two scenarios here, one of which is potentially costly to the owner.
1) The dyno figures are grossly overstated. Sneaky marketing. The car will actually be making around 170-180 with the map, which shouldn't be harmful to the car assuming certain parameters are kept in check. This is usually around the power level a BKD will reach with a good map.
Or...
2) The car is actually making 200+ bhp, with standard hardware. A mapper could theoretically force the car to make this much power, with huge boost, silly timing, all the rest of it. But the turbo would last 5 minutes. Literally. The thing would just self destruct.
I'm guessing it's closer to 1 than 2.
Celtic Tuning were notorious for overstating their bhp claims on the old 1.9 diesels. There was quite a flap about it at one point. Looking at the website it seems they're STILL at it...
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Looks like it.
And I've got the "certificate" to prove it!!