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All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: PhilA1 on April 27, 2017, 10:05:59 pm

Title: ABS Module and fully disabling the ABS
Post by: PhilA1 on April 27, 2017, 10:05:59 pm
Hi, does the Mk5 use an MK60 or MK60EC1 ABS module like the Seat Leon Cupra Mk2s?
Do you know the VCDS change to allow the ABS to be fully disabled?
Title: Re: ABS Module and fully disabling the ABS
Post by: dronners on April 28, 2017, 01:15:08 am
i doubt you could fully disable ABS because normally why would you want to. its a life saving feature
Title: Re: ABS Module and fully disabling the ABS
Post by: pudding on April 28, 2017, 09:32:29 am
Just disconnect an ABS sensor if you want to disable it.  Nothing is ever FULLY off on the MK5.
Title: Re: ABS Module and fully disabling the ABS
Post by: SI-R32 on April 28, 2017, 09:42:14 am
Mk60 on mk5 which is fully codable via vcds, so ebay will find you a good replacement
Title: Re: ABS Module and fully disabling the ABS
Post by: PhilA1 on April 28, 2017, 09:48:11 am
i doubt you could fully disable ABS because normally why would you want to. its a life saving feature

It's handy for track days
Title: Re: ABS Module and fully disabling the ABS
Post by: PhilA1 on April 28, 2017, 09:49:11 am
Just disconnect an ABS sensor if you want to disable it.  Nothing is ever FULLY off on the MK5.

I have just discovered and done this on my seat Leon using VCDS.
If the Mk5 uses the same ABS module (which I think it does) you guys should be able to do it too.
Title: Re: ABS Module and fully disabling the ABS
Post by: Shoduchi on April 28, 2017, 11:02:25 am
Mk60 on mk5 which is fully codable via vcds, so ebay will find you a good replacement
My Ed. 30 has the older ABS pump MK60. When I disable TC the TC light goes solid on (no flashing). I was told that this is still not fully off. Do you know a way to fully turning off with VCDS coding? :smiley:
Title: Re: ABS Module and fully disabling the ABS
Post by: pudding on April 28, 2017, 11:17:06 am
Mk60 on mk5 which is fully codable via vcds, so ebay will find you a good replacement
My Ed. 30 has the older ABS pump MK60. When I disable TC the TC light goes solid on (no flashing). I was told that this is still not fully off. Do you know a way to fully turning off with VCDS coding? :smiley:

Apparently it's a model year thing.  Some you can turn it off (in VCDS), some you can't, but on the US MK5 forum there was mention of disconnecting the accelerometer which would disable the TC/ESP.
Title: Re: ABS Module and fully disabling the ABS
Post by: SI-R32 on April 28, 2017, 11:23:41 am
My reply was just in answer to which unit the mk5 uses, Mk60 and I meant if his broken unit is changed you can code it easily with vcds,  sadly I don't know hoe to fully turn off ESP
Title: Re: ABS Module and fully disabling the ABS
Post by: Shoduchi on April 28, 2017, 01:17:22 pm
Apparently it's a model year thing.  Some you can turn it off (in VCDS), some you can't, but on the US MK5 forum there was mention of disconnecting the accelerometer which would disable the TC/ESP.

My reply was just in answer to which unit the mk5 uses, Mk60 and I meant if his broken unit is changed you can code it easily with vcds,  sadly I don't know hoe to fully turn off ESP

Thanks for the reply guys! :happy2:
Title: Re: ABS Module and fully disabling the ABS
Post by: s3dubbin on April 28, 2017, 01:44:02 pm
I was wondering this also for my 2007 s3 8p. I fitted a set of Carbon Lorraine brake pads this week and it either locks the tyres or the ABS kicks in and judders down the road, would never have believed a pad could bite into a disc as hard as that. Maybe just need to adjust driving style as I am used to ECP Pagid pads.

Stevie.
Title: Re: ABS Module and fully disabling the ABS
Post by: PhilA1 on April 29, 2017, 10:45:10 am
I'm guessing the mk60 is the same as mk60ec1 but without asr, you have plain tc instead, that's actually good news, asr is intrusive.
Regardless of what is printed on the button "esp off", by standard this just disables tc or asr, esp is still on.
With vcds you can program the button to do 2 operations, the golf R boys with later cars all do it.
I've just found out how to do it on my cupra, may work for the golf too.
Info here http://philatkinson.net/disabling-esp-on-an-mk60ec1-abs-module/
Title: Re: ABS Module and fully disabling the ABS
Post by: Shoduchi on April 29, 2017, 12:22:02 pm
I'm guessing the mk60 is the same as mk60ec1 but without asr, you have plain tc instead, that's actually good news, asr is intrusive.
Regardless of what is printed on the button "esp off", by standard this just disables tc or asr, esp is still on.
With vcds you can program the button to do 2 operations, the golf R boys with later cars all do it.
I've just found out how to do it on my cupra, may work for the golf too.
Info here http://philatkinson.net/disabling-esp-on-an-mk60ec1-abs-module/

MK60 pumps are very different, I'm afraid. Much more limited.
Title: Re: ABS Module and fully disabling the ABS
Post by: PhilA1 on April 29, 2017, 01:25:05 pm
What about the ed30? Can't believe the Leon has a better abs setup than the golf
Title: Re: ABS Module and fully disabling the ABS
Post by: SI-R32 on April 29, 2017, 01:38:38 pm
Don't forget the mk5 golf was made from 2004 to 2009, only when the mk6 golf came along did the golf get MK60EC1
Title: Re: ABS Module and fully disabling the ABS
Post by: Shoduchi on April 29, 2017, 07:39:27 pm
Don't forget the mk5 golf was made from 2004 to 2009, only when the mk6 golf came along did the golf get MK60EC1
My GT Sport is a mk5 with an ABS pump MK60EC1. One of the last mk5 made (MY2009) but still a mk5 nonetheless. :grin:
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AD    HW: 1K0 907 379 AD
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H35 0106 
   Revision: 00H35001   
   Coding: 113B200D09250001881004E4902000413400
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 74EDAD74D7A030E
Title: Re: ABS Module and fully disabling the ABS
Post by: SI-R32 on April 29, 2017, 07:42:15 pm
Don't forget the mk5 golf was made from 2004 to 2009, only when the mk6 golf came along did the golf get MK60EC1
My GT Sport is a mk5 with an ABS pump MK60EC1. One of the last mk5 made (MY2009) but still a mk5 nonetheless. :grin:
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AD    HW: 1K0 907 379 AD
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H35 0106 
   Revision: 00H35001   
   Coding: 113B200D09250001881004E4902000413400
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 74EDAD74D7A030E
Your in Europe though aren't you? Maybe different?
Title: Re: ABS Module and fully disabling the ABS
Post by: Shoduchi on April 29, 2017, 07:50:17 pm
Don't forget the mk5 golf was made from 2004 to 2009, only when the mk6 golf came along did the golf get MK60EC1
My GT Sport is a mk5 with an ABS pump MK60EC1. One of the last mk5 made (MY2009) but still a mk5 nonetheless. :grin:
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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AD    HW: 1K0 907 379 AD
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H35 0106 
   Revision: 00H35001   
   Coding: 113B200D09250001881004E4902000413400
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 74EDAD74D7A030E
Your in Europe though aren't you? Maybe different?
Yes.
Title: Re: ABS Module and fully disabling the ABS
Post by: PhilA1 on May 01, 2017, 07:37:04 pm
I nearly bought an ED30 but went for the Cupra instead. I just found out today the ED30 has smaller brakes too.
I assumed it was almost like for like but looks like I was wrong.