Post by: pudding on July 11, 2017, 03:55:38 pm
I acquired a polishing machine some years ago but I'm too afraid to use it, with all the horror stories of melting bumpers and taking paint off etc, but I do have a tub of G3 polish. Is that OK to use by hand? Or is there something better out there for a lovely smooth hand job?
Post by: Rossimac on July 11, 2017, 04:15:48 pm
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Post by: RetroRaz on July 11, 2017, 04:24:11 pm
Post by: pudding on July 11, 2017, 05:23:03 pm
OK, to reword it to a more sensible forum friendly format - what is a good polish to use with a cloth, by hand? I need to buff out some water marks from the roof and bonnet. The rest of the car is fine, so not worth the effort and expense of a machine polish.
Is that better? :grin:
Post by: Andy on July 11, 2017, 06:03:22 pm
Post by: AJP on July 11, 2017, 07:01:18 pm
Just don't over apply it, try and do it out of direct sunlight too. Microfibres help to stop it getting 'chalky'. Finish it off with a decent wax/sealant if you can be arsed. :)
Post by: willni on July 11, 2017, 10:35:55 pm
To be honest for the amount of effort it is polishing by hand the reward in very very low. What i'd recommend is the following;
A all in one polish (it's more designed for hand loving :grin:)
Then a coat of poorboy's blackhole :wink: (these innuendos are getting out of hand now)
Then your choice of wax x 2 coats and the next step or 3 coats and finish.
To finish I recommend some Waxaddict's Fo'show spray wax and then reapply every 2-3 weeks
Post by: pudding on July 12, 2017, 09:52:02 am
I've got a rotary polisher which I borrowed off a mate about 10 years ago, but conveniently forgot to return. I can't remember the make but he got good results with it on his car. My car has some iffy paint in areas from previous owner cover ups, so I don't want to risk rubbing that off with the machine!
OK so bash some Super Resin on by hand, wipe it off, bung some blackhole on, wipe that off and then wax. Cool, I think I can cope with that :smiley:
2-3 coats of wax :surprised: I normally put 1 coat on, but I could give 2 or 3 coats a bash. I normally use Collinite 476 because I'm lazy and only give the car a thorough scrub once a year, but I missed last year's scrub up.......so it was more work this time around :grin:
Oh, is there a chemical you can recommend to stop the rubber strips in the window runners and the sunroof seal from going green with moss/algae?
Post by: willni on July 12, 2017, 11:38:54 am
Cheers guys, gotta love some innuendos to brighten up a cloudy summers day :grin:
I've got a rotary polisher which I borrowed off a mate about 10 years ago, but conveniently forgot to return. I can't remember the make but he got good results with it on his car. My car has some iffy paint in areas from previous owner cover ups, so I don't want to risk rubbing that off with the machine!
OK so bash some Super Resin on by hand, wipe it off, bung some blackhole on, wipe that off and then wax. Cool, I think I can cope with that :smiley:
2-3 coats of wax :surprised: I normally put 1 coat on, but I could give 2 or 3 coats a bash. I normally use Collinite 476 because I'm lazy and only give the car a thorough scrub once a year, but I missed last year's scrub up.......so it was more work this time around :grin:
Oh, is there a chemical you can recommend to stop the rubber strips in the window runners and the sunroof seal from going green with moss/algae?
Personally for hand polishing I'd recommend Kleenfreaks all in one, you'll save your arm/elbow and shoulder since it's a half polish so works easier.
2-3 coats of wax offers maximum protection and longevity :happy2: , and yeah rotary actually puts more swirls in it for finishing so I wouldn't worry about using it.
For green moss and Algae some all purpose cleaner with a stiff brush (I use an old tooth brush for around sunroofs) do this for 3-5 washes and it will die permanently as well as point the powerhose down into the window and across to help blow out all dirt from the window.
Post by: pudding on July 12, 2017, 12:01:39 pm
Post by: white91 on July 12, 2017, 12:07:25 pm
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Post by: Scottymon on July 12, 2017, 08:45:36 pm
But to concur, the DAS Pro is an awesome machine and far better than rotary for lack of "burn!" in amateur hands...
A good hand job to finish can never be overlooked however ;)
Post by: MIJ_JAGGER on July 12, 2017, 08:51:10 pm
Post by: pudding on July 13, 2017, 12:10:39 pm
I'm hearing you guys on the FM about the Das 6 Pro. Maybe I'll order one when I get paid. Just looked online and they're not as pricey as I thought. Is the starter pack cleanyourcar.com any good? Comes with the machine, some pads and some polishes. I really wouldn't know a good product from a bad one tbh. There's a billion different detailing products to choose from!
Post by: willni on July 13, 2017, 12:36:12 pm
Oooh now you're talking. Will I benefit from some lube?
I'm hearing you guys on the FM about the Das 6 Pro. Maybe I'll order one when I get paid. Just looked online and they're not as pricey as I thought. Is the starter pack cleanyourcar.com any good? Comes with the machine, some pads and some polishes. I really wouldn't know a good product from a bad one tbh. There's a billion different detailing products to choose from!
For a starter machine either of these two;
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing-machines/das-6-v2-dual-action-polisher/das-6-v2-meguiars-hexlogic-kit/prod_1805.html (http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing-machines/das-6-v2-dual-action-polisher/das-6-v2-meguiars-hexlogic-kit/prod_1805.html)
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/das-6-v2-meguiars-da-microfiber-system/prod_965.html (http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/das-6-v2-meguiars-da-microfiber-system/prod_965.html)
The more expensive one has a stronger cutting compound for deeper correction of swirls and scratches, and the pads will give you a better finish but you'll need to keep "re-fluffing" the pads during use to achieve the best finish.
The cheaper is a lot less abrasive but will only really fix medium swirls and scratches.
Although my recommendation of what I know works with the golf paint is the following kit, it's cheaper and gets the best finish in my opinion;
http://www.slimsdetailing.co.uk/accessories-kits-and-tools/polishing-machines/slims-detailing-dual-action-das-6-machine-polisher-koch-chemie-polish-kit.html (http://www.slimsdetailing.co.uk/accessories-kits-and-tools/polishing-machines/slims-detailing-dual-action-das-6-machine-polisher-koch-chemie-polish-kit.html)
Post by: pudding on July 17, 2017, 02:37:51 pm
Oooh now you're talking. Will I benefit from some lube?
I'm hearing you guys on the FM about the Das 6 Pro. Maybe I'll order one when I get paid. Just looked online and they're not as pricey as I thought. Is the starter pack cleanyourcar.com any good? Comes with the machine, some pads and some polishes. I really wouldn't know a good product from a bad one tbh. There's a billion different detailing products to choose from!
For a starter machine either of these two;
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing-machines/das-6-v2-dual-action-polisher/das-6-v2-meguiars-hexlogic-kit/prod_1805.html (http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing-machines/das-6-v2-dual-action-polisher/das-6-v2-meguiars-hexlogic-kit/prod_1805.html)
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/das-6-v2-meguiars-da-microfiber-system/prod_965.html (http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/das-6-v2-meguiars-da-microfiber-system/prod_965.html)
The more expensive one has a stronger cutting compound for deeper correction of swirls and scratches, and the pads will give you a better finish but you'll need to keep "re-fluffing" the pads during use to achieve the best finish.
The cheaper is a lot less abrasive but will only really fix medium swirls and scratches.
Although my recommendation of what I know works with the golf paint is the following kit, it's cheaper and gets the best finish in my opinion;
http://www.slimsdetailing.co.uk/accessories-kits-and-tools/polishing-machines/slims-detailing-dual-action-das-6-machine-polisher-koch-chemie-polish-kit.html (http://www.slimsdetailing.co.uk/accessories-kits-and-tools/polishing-machines/slims-detailing-dual-action-das-6-machine-polisher-koch-chemie-polish-kit.html)
Thanks for the advice mate, very helpful :smiley: I'll get the Slims kit on pay day I think.
Post by: willni on July 17, 2017, 04:20:07 pm
Oooh now you're talking. Will I benefit from some lube?
I'm hearing you guys on the FM about the Das 6 Pro. Maybe I'll order one when I get paid. Just looked online and they're not as pricey as I thought. Is the starter pack cleanyourcar.com any good? Comes with the machine, some pads and some polishes. I really wouldn't know a good product from a bad one tbh. There's a billion different detailing products to choose from!
For a starter machine either of these two;
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing-machines/das-6-v2-dual-action-polisher/das-6-v2-meguiars-hexlogic-kit/prod_1805.html (http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing-machines/das-6-v2-dual-action-polisher/das-6-v2-meguiars-hexlogic-kit/prod_1805.html)
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/das-6-v2-meguiars-da-microfiber-system/prod_965.html (http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/das-6-v2-meguiars-da-microfiber-system/prod_965.html)
The more expensive one has a stronger cutting compound for deeper correction of swirls and scratches, and the pads will give you a better finish but you'll need to keep "re-fluffing" the pads during use to achieve the best finish.
The cheaper is a lot less abrasive but will only really fix medium swirls and scratches.
Although my recommendation of what I know works with the golf paint is the following kit, it's cheaper and gets the best finish in my opinion;
http://www.slimsdetailing.co.uk/accessories-kits-and-tools/polishing-machines/slims-detailing-dual-action-das-6-machine-polisher-koch-chemie-polish-kit.html (http://www.slimsdetailing.co.uk/accessories-kits-and-tools/polishing-machines/slims-detailing-dual-action-das-6-machine-polisher-koch-chemie-polish-kit.html)
Thanks for the advice mate, very helpful :smiley: I'll get the Slims kit on pay day I think.
No problem I'll get a picture later on of what red turns out like with that koch chemie and poorboys black hole, but put it like this even when dirty you'll be able to see yourself in it :happy2: probably should've done this earlier so you can put products to a picture.
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Post by: grey golfster on July 18, 2017, 09:40:13 am
I've always found the ladies of Gdynia to be particular good.....
ooooh errr etc! :signLOL:
Post by: pudding on July 18, 2017, 01:02:55 pm
Looking great Willni :happy2: I need to learn how to be patient with this kind of work as the results are amazing. I'm guessing that takes all day?
Slightly off topic but I stumbled onto a YouTube clip about CarPro Cquartz last night. Some kind of ceramic coating. How does that compare to waxing? It seems to suit the once-twice a year guys like me :smiley:
Post by: willni on July 18, 2017, 01:57:46 pm
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Looking great Willni :happy2: I need to learn how to be patient with this kind of work as the results are amazing. I'm guessing that takes all day?
Slightly off topic but I stumbled onto a YouTube clip about CarPro Cquartz last night. Some kind of ceramic coating. How does that compare to waxing? It seems to suit the once-twice a year guys like me :smiley:
Well I actually spent a week on it, mainly because I only did 2 panels at a time as there was no rush so really a good job can be done in a day, but it's easier to do it in 2 days.
And I know of CarPro CQuartz, I opted for Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light and Exo V2 on mine a different brand of ceramic coat it lasts 5 years and needs topped up every 2 years. Personally I use ceramic coat on all mine as well as I put it on other peoples on weekends with gtechniq the Crystal Serum Light (CSL) doesn't scratch so it freezes the paint so you won't scratch it etc and resists uv damage and people hitting it. The top coat of exo v2/v3 does scratch but it can be removed and reapplied easily.
I think it's brilliant and leaves the car looking show condition all year round, and you don't have to worry about the paint. The trade off it application and preparation, it does require a lot of energy to ensure all the CSL is buffed off so not to leave any unsightly marks as well as the paint needs to people how you want it since 5 years is a long time so you want it to be perfect. You can pay people for it but professionals cost £600+ I think maybe more, I apply it for £300 dependant on condition in both cases.
If you apply it yourself you just need to take your time though. Summary definitely worth it as it self cleans, prevents scratching and some stone chipping and looks epic. Down side cost or effort to apply.
I'll try and find a dark colour I applied it to so you can get an idea but if you have metallic paint be prepared to smile at your car every time you see it in the sun. :happy2:
Post by: willni on July 18, 2017, 02:05:48 pm
Here we got found a deep metallic navy blue, used to look black.
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Along with a mineral metallic grey.
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Post by: pudding on July 19, 2017, 09:27:55 am
Where are you based? I'm thinking it might be better to get a pro to do it, but you would probably baulk at the state of my paint :grin:
It's not that bad really, just needs some attention.....and the front end repainting to be perfect, but stone chips don't offend me that much as they are inevitable unfortunately.
Post by: willni on July 19, 2017, 09:44:15 am
Thanks for the very detailed reply! I like the sound of this ceramic stuff! Is it good for wheels too?
Where are you based? I'm thinking it might be better to get a pro to do it, but you would probably baulk at the state of my paint :grin:
It's not that bad really, just needs some attention.....and the front end repainting to be perfect, but stone chips don't offend me that much as they are inevitable unfortunately.
Yep it does it all Paint, Wheels, Brake Calipers, exhausts, plastic trim and glass, my wheels have been coated with C5 and EXO v2 and they have no brake dust or tar on then at all from a year of driving just washed weekly or so. I'm in Northern Ireland so be cheaper to go to someone local after time and travel :sad1: . Also stonechips aren't hard to repair if you have a DA polisher it's just a matter of cleaning it and applying the touch up and then sanding it down to level, and polishing out the sanding marks. :happy2:
And it's the inside of cars that are the worst the state that some people sit in, there's a reason I have thick plastic gloves :signLOL: :sick:
Post by: lukemk5gti on July 19, 2017, 10:22:17 am
I've used CarPro Essence both by hand and machine and it's amazing.
It's kind of a one4all being a mild abrasive polish and it contains silicone dioxide which protects the paint.
Post by: pudding on July 19, 2017, 04:07:51 pm
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