MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: r5gtt on October 21, 2017, 01:08:33 am
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Hi guys longtime no post as I've been busy on face crap but would like some input if you will on how much adjustment I will get with adjustable ball joints please?.
Thanks
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The neg camber outcome will also depend on how much you have lowered your car however I am getting 1.5 degrees with the VWR springs / damper kit.
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Hi guys longtime no post as I've been busy on face crap but would like some input if you will on how much adjustment I will get with adjustable ball joints please?.
Thanks
I got around 2 degrees to 2.4 last time I had my tracking done ,I have mine set up at -1.5 for road use.
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The neg camber outcome will also depend on how much you have lowered your car however I am getting 1.5 degrees with the VWR springs / damper kit.
^^^^ This
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Hi guys longtime no post as I've been busy on face crap but would like some input if you will on how much adjustment I will get with adjustable ball joints please?.
Thanks
I got around 2 degrees to 2.4 last time I had my tracking done ,I have mine set up at -1.5 for road use.
Do you have adjustable top mounts also?
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Cheers guys, just curious how far I can go without prematurely wearing the tyres down would be a great help?.
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I’m not sure there is a definitive answer to this question. Obviously the more camber, the more inner edge wear however whether this is premature will also depend on your mileage, how hard you corner, tyre pressures and also your expectations on what wear is acceptable.
I was recommended to aim for 2-2.25 deg but to expect tramlining and uneven tyre wear, however when the bjs were fitted we could only achieve 1.5 equally on each side. Haven’t done sufficient mileage since then to form a view on how the tyres are wearing but would say that it drives nicely on these settings. Fwiw have also used a small amount of toe out both front and rear.
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I only got -1.5 as well superpro bjs anymore I think you need tt alloy arms or adjustable top mounts.
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I’m not sure there is a definitive answer to this question. Obviously the more camber, the more inner edge wear however whether this is premature will also depend on your mileage, how hard you corner, tyre pressures and also your expectations on what wear is acceptable.
I was recommended to aim for 2-2.25 deg but to expect tramlining and uneven tyre wear, however when the bjs were fitted we could only achieve 1.5 equally on each side. Haven’t done sufficient mileage since then to form a view on how the tyres are wearing but would say that it drives nicely on these settings. Fwiw have also used a small amount of toe out both front and rear.
Im trying to find a way to keep them ball joints as far away from the discs as possible as the brake set up I tried once fouled the disc and Ball joint so thinking the super pro adjustables will solve this issue.
(https://image.ibb.co/jKZ136/IMG_2946.png)
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I only got -1.5 as well superpro bjs anymore I think you need tt alloy arms or adjustable top mounts.
I don't want to start buying things and they don't work so why do you say tt alloy arms and what's the difference between them and S3 alloy arms which I have now
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Tt arms are wider push the wheels out slightly more give you wider stance.
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I’m not sure there is a definitive answer to this question. Obviously the more camber, the more inner edge wear however whether this is premature will also depend on your mileage, how hard you corner, tyre pressures and also your expectations on what wear is acceptable.
I was recommended to aim for 2-2.25 deg but to expect tramlining and uneven tyre wear, however when the bjs were fitted we could only achieve 1.5 equally on each side. Haven’t done sufficient mileage since then to form a view on how the tyres are wearing but would say that it drives nicely on these settings. Fwiw have also used a small amount of toe out both front and rear.
Im trying to find a way to keep them ball joints as far away from the discs as possible as the brake set up I tried once fouled the disc and Ball joint so thinking the super pro adjustables will solve this issue.
(https://image.ibb.co/jKZ136/IMG_2946.png)
SP BJs won't solve that I'm afraid.
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What’s brakes you running mate and disc size.
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I’m not sure there is a definitive answer to this question. Obviously the more camber, the more inner edge wear however whether this is premature will also depend on your mileage, how hard you corner, tyre pressures and also your expectations on what wear is acceptable.
I was recommended to aim for 2-2.25 deg but to expect tramlining and uneven tyre wear, however when the bjs were fitted we could only achieve 1.5 equally on each side. Haven’t done sufficient mileage since then to form a view on how the tyres are wearing but would say that it drives nicely on these settings. Fwiw have also used a small amount of toe out both front and rear.
Im trying to find a way to keep them ball joints as far away from the discs as possible as the brake set up I tried once fouled the disc and Ball joint so thinking the super pro adjustables will solve this issue.
(https://image.ibb.co/jKZ136/IMG_2946.png)
SP BJs won't solve that I'm afraid.
what would you recommend or think will solve this if anything ? Cheers
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What’s brakes you running mate and disc size.
Atm I'm running Porsche 911 TT brakes with merc 350mm ML discs with nonossuea at all. I'm thinking of getting my revo back which are 356mm floating discs but that's the issue I'm having with BJ's rubbing the discs
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Maybe try the Powerflex adjustable camber front bushes instead of bjs as they give upto 1/2degree more without these brake clearance issues.
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Maybe try the Powerflex adjustable camber front bushes instead of bjs as they give upto 1/2degree more without these brake clearance issues.
I am using super pro ALK mate, I'm looking for clearance for the bj's.
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I’m not sure there is a definitive answer to this question. Obviously the more camber, the more inner edge wear however whether this is premature will also depend on your mileage, how hard you corner, tyre pressures and also your expectations on what wear is acceptable.
I was recommended to aim for 2-2.25 deg but to expect tramlining and uneven tyre wear, however when the bjs were fitted we could only achieve 1.5 equally on each side. Haven’t done sufficient mileage since then to form a view on how the tyres are wearing but would say that it drives nicely on these settings. Fwiw have also used a small amount of toe out both front and rear.
Im trying to find a way to keep them ball joints as far away from the discs as possible as the brake set up I tried once fouled the disc and Ball joint so thinking the super pro adjustables will solve this issue.
(https://image.ibb.co/jKZ136/IMG_2946.png)
SP BJs won't solve that I'm afraid.
what would you recommend or think will solve this if anything ? Cheers
Grinding the ball joint is the only fix for that.......or use a brake disc with more offset.
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SP BJ will actually make that situation worse as they are slightly wider/bigger
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SP BJ will actually make that situation worse as they are slightly wider/bigger
I've had that experience and no safe griding of the SuperPro ball joints was enough to solve it. Even the S3/Passat ball joints rub when fitting new discs. I use discs with 350 mm for MB ML450 and I also have alloy arms from the S3/Passat.
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SP BJ will actually make that situation worse as they are slightly wider/bigger
i would have thought they'd help as they're adjustable but no expert here
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SP BJ will actually make that situation worse as they are slightly wider/bigger
I've had that experience and no safe griding of the SuperPro ball joints was enough to solve it. Even the S3/Passat ball joints rub when fitting new discs. I use discs with 350 mm for MB ML450 and I also have alloy arms from the S3/Passat.
very tricky one here as buying all sorts of different parts and still having the problem wouldn't help matters anymore :signLOL:
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SP BJ will actually make that situation worse as they are slightly wider/bigger
i would have thought they'd help as they're adjustable but no expert here
Sadly not.
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SP BJ will actually make that situation worse as they are slightly wider/bigger
i would have thought they'd help as they're adjustable but no expert here
Sadly not.
Never mind cheers :smiley:
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SP BJ will actually make that situation worse as they are slightly wider/bigger
i would have thought they'd help as they're adjustable but no expert here
The adjustable part of the SP BJs is via the 3 mounting nuts to move the whole hub assembly further out for more camber. The ball and pin part of the BJ and the disc are fixed into position and cannot be moved away from each other.
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SP BJ will actually make that situation worse as they are slightly wider/bigger
i would have thought they'd help as they're adjustable but no expert here
The adjustable part of the SP BJs is via the 3 mounting nuts to move the whole hub assembly further out for more camber. The ball and pin part of the BJ and the disc are fixed into position and cannot be moved away from each other.
when the adjustment is made it automatically pulls the ball away from the disc is what I'm thinking tbh
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No it doesn’t.
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SP BJ will actually make that situation worse as they are slightly wider/bigger
i would have thought they'd help as they're adjustable but no expert here
The adjustable part of the SP BJs is via the 3 mounting nuts to move the whole hub assembly further out for more camber. The ball and pin part of the BJ and the disc are fixed into position and cannot be moved away from each other.
when the adjustment is made it automatically pulls the ball away from the disc is what I'm thinking tbh
It doesn't work that way. The only thing that the adjustment allows is to alter the camber just a bit by extending the hubs further from the centre of the car. The hub is fixed to the ball joint which is much bigger, so it's also closer to the splash shield and brake disc.
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No it doesn’t.
oh bugger :doh:
SP BJ will actually make that situation worse as they are slightly wider/bigger
i would have thought they'd help as they're adjustable but no expert here
The adjustable part of the SP BJs is via the 3 mounting nuts to move the whole hub assembly further out for more camber. The ball and pin part of the BJ and the disc are fixed into position and cannot be moved away from each other.
when the adjustment is made it automatically pulls the ball away from the disc is what I'm thinking tbh
It doesn't work that way. The only thing that the adjustment allows is to alter the camber just a bit by extending the hubs further from the centre of the car. The hub is fixed to the ball joint which is much bigger, so it's also closer to the splash shield and brake disc.
Must be some way of fitting the Revo and get clearance of the bj's :thinking:
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Yeah there is... fit different hubs and wishbones.
I thought youd sold that kit anyway?
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Yeah there is... fit different hubs and wishbones.
I thought youd sold that kit anyway?
Thinking of getting them back as the brake pedal feel was amazing in comparison to the Porsche set up I have and I mean amazing :jumping:
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No point.... just get some TTRS calipers and 340mm discs and be done with it :happy2:
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Cheers mate less hassle too :signLOL: