MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Hurdy on April 21, 2010, 09:35:11 am
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What can I say.........
AWESOME!!!!
The trip down was lovely. fine weather all the way and Robin had a gorgeous 18yr old, track obsessed lady with him from the Northloop forum, who asked to come down with him at the last minute (she knew everyone, which made the intro's and day a lot more interesting).
Arrived in one piece at the 'ring with just one minor mishap - a stone hit the edge of the windscreen causing a 6" crack at the top corner (out of eyeline). Had to go down to RSR to get the okay to go on track.
The day arrived and the weather was just perfection for a turbo'd car = 4oC in the morning to 15oC in the afternoon and brilliant clear skies all day, with the track as dry as a bone :jumpmove:
Some superb cars there on the day (sorry I was too busy driving to take too many pics). The new Ferrari 599XX was there and looked and sounded fooking awesome, as did the R8 Le Mans race car. There were a few other race teams there too including a rather tasty bright orange race prepped and bodied Scirocco (sorry no pics :ashamed:). Everything else as you would expect from a camper van (don't ask!!) to Lambo's.
overall I managed 24 laps of the full VLN circuit ('ring plus GP sprint circuit), so for those of you who said it wouldn't be worth it :P :P I would have happily paid double what I did for this day as even though there were some major off's, the track stayed open ALL day, with no closure for dinner and free instruction on tap!
I managed to drop my times after instruction from my slowest of the day at 11 min 15 seconds without a passenger to 10 min 45 seconds WITH a passenger. I didn't time all my laps and there were one or two flying laps in there that were stonkingly fast. The best I can lay claim to with a passenger from the pitlane (ie not a flying lap) was the 10 min 45 sec lap. This transposed into....
1min 51 sec for the GP sprint circuit
8 min 45 sec for the FULL 'ring circuit
8min 18 seconds for the bridge to gantry section (but remember I was going a LOT faster through the bridge (150mph!!)
You must have R888's to do this - I did my first few laps on the Sessanta's and they were pants on track!!!!
I do have HD footage fo the full circuit, with a passenger, before I had instruction and that lap was....
1 min 54 sec for the GP sprint circuit
9min 05 sec for the full 'ring circuit
8min 37 seconds for the bridge to gantry section
When I get the footage up, you'll see that there was an old, slow red Porsche that held me up for around 30 seconds and an old campervan that didn't indicate to let me past, that properly held me up for a few secs too. Overall I lost more than 10 seconds off that lap time :fighting:
The trip back proved interesting, but I'll leave that to Robin if he wants to tell you all!
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Sounds wicked John!! :congrats:
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Sounds excellent, i've never tried a track day but the Golf feels like a good car to give it a go sometime in the UK to get a feel for whats required before trying the Ring next year perhaps :)
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sound awesome john, you sure your not coming back next month with us lot!! :party: :laugh:
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The legend arrives home... :congrats: You thread was pure comedy, good to hear you took all the ribbing in good jest and got on well with them all. They're a good bunch, you should come on some of the UK days I do with them, the craic is ace.
Really glad to hear you both had a great time and arrived home in one piece, albiet Robin a bit lighter in the trouser dept.
I'm as green as Kermit's cock with jealousy, to coin a phrase.
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Link to comedy thread please....... :popcornsoda:
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It's on a closed forum Northloop.co.uk - it was basically a load of banter about how fast Hurdy's car/driving is.
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It's on a closed forum Northloop.co.uk - it was basically a load of banter about how fast Hurdy's car/driving is.
Oh like that is it! :booty: :P
I know all about that loons driving! :surprised: :driver:
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Hey, I didn't close it!!!
There may or may not be footage of Hurdy's entry into the RallyCross championships...
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Rally cross footage unavailable, but here are some snaps a member took for me as I was passing........with his own comments kept in tact..... :evilgrin:
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Once things straightened out, I indicated and pulled over to the right and he passed me at Warp Factor 9:
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However, he was after a fast one and went looking for the TVR Tunnel:
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Fortunately, nothing came of it and he survived to drink another beer:
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A truly awesome trip! I'll get my act together later and add some stuff. I had a little 'off' on the modern GP circuit into the hard green stuff but got back on track before the kitty litter!
Not a cheap trip but worth every single Euro. I now wanna do Oulton Park with the same guys - Circuit Days :notworthy:
I'm still feeling as high as a kite! :happy2: Best Noodleburgering trip ever.
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More info on the 18 year old, please? :evilgrin: :booty: :party: :embarrassed:
Sounds like an awesome trip, guys. I'm on a closed Scottish forum and we're heading to the 'Ring by Ferry in June too. Can't wait.
I'm taking the Golf, but with no re-map/arb's/standard brakes/etc, I'll be asking another driver for a few passenger laps only.
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They are already doing another trackday on the 23rd August this yr....but I'm working :sad:
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Okay, here is a video of me and Diamond Hell (off the Golfgti forum) on a lap starting from the pitane. Not the fastest of the day, but not far away. Thanks to DH for the footage. :happy2:
http://vimeo.com/11100503
Turn up the sound and enjoy. :driver:
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well done hurdy :congrats:, great couple of days for sure...hopefully be able to make it next time
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Oh, and that lap looks like an 8:44 full 'ring lap, 8:17 B to G and 10:42 full VLN. 8)
Should be able to get down near 8:10 with a little more tutoring.
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I ain't no expert and I think you'd had your tuition after that so it'd be sucking eggs anyways. Decent pedalling.
Did you start using M at all? The box was humping around cogs all over the place in S and that would have un-nerved me somewhat.
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nice lap mate, no traffic!!!!! looked awsome :happy2:
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tres cool :notworthy:
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Confirms my thoughts, a controlled Lunatic John :notworthy:
Great driving :happy2: oh and hows your steering wheel for finger nail marks :signLOL:
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Awesome m8, absolutely awesome!!!!! :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:
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I ain't no expert and I think you'd had your tuition after that so it'd be sucking eggs anyways. Decent pedalling.
Did you start using M at all? The box was humping around cogs all over the place in S and that would have un-nerved me somewhat.
I used M on about 8 laps usually on the second flying lap. Must have hit the rev limiter about 10 times in all, but the lap times were similar anyway. Traction control was off for about 12 laps after discovering I didn't need it and it helped with pulling cleanly out of tighter corners where the traction control was cutting in. Shows that the box is working great too :happy2:
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vid is class mate, you seem a good driver also!!! bye bye CSL :signLOL:
looks like you had an awesome time, maybe one day i'll have a go :innocent:
dont think my bagged suspension would be any good tho lmao!
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Looks good John, looks like you had a great time. The Ed sounds well in the vid, and sounds like you were well within yours and its capabilities. Diff looks to be working well.
Great stuff, car sounds sorted. Footage by DH is well worth watching.
How did the new pads get on mate?
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amazing John :happy2: thats some lick :notworthy:
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nice driving hurdy :driver:, porsche what porsche :laugh: thought that pug 309 might have given you a run for your money though ! :grin: :grin: :grin: yeah right :popcornsoda: :signLOL:
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Looks like you had a lot of fun out there. I've only ever been round the north ring and only then as a passenger and I'm still in awe of anyone that can drive round there at speed. It's an awesome track and I personally don't think that any amount of watching videos or playing your playstation can prepare you for the real thing, just the size of the kerbs and the changes in camber are something that has to be seen to be believed.
Amazing drive Hurdy, most entertaining! :happy2: :congrats:
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Just watched the vid :congrats: :congrats:
I think you could go faster with a stick! :wink: On a few occasions it seemed you and the engine were ready for more but the gearbox wasn't. :confused:
Awesome stuff and made the hairs stand up on the back of my neck a few times! :notworthy:
You sure you can't come with us in a few weeks mate? :party:
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wasn't you going southbound on the m20 before ashford around 7pm on sunday was it by any chance
top times and glad your back in one piece :happy2:
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Confirms my thoughts, a controlled Lunatic John :notworthy:
Great driving :happy2: oh and hows your steering wheel for finger nail marks :signLOL:
No fingernail marke, but the brown stain on the seat was a fooker to get out :laugh:
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nice lap mate, no traffic!!!!! looked awsome :happy2:
Traffic was a revellation. a TF is a poor relation by any comparison. No bikes, no vans, no buses, just drivers who were there to share the same experience and prepared to stand by the rules (with one exception = bl00dy professional teams thinking they can overtake on the right!!)
The best moments of the day for me were...
The hardest lap ever was the slowest lap I did on the day. Having Diamond Hell follow me for a full lap in his MKII synchro and having a camera at the back of the car and trying to keep the right distance from him to make the video look good, whilst watching for faster traffic behind him and trying to hit the apexes ahead to make it look right!!!! :driver:
Following a Gallardo at 120mph+ for about 2 miles (sounds AMAZING!!!)
Being the filling in an M3 sandwich for over 3 miles of tight driving, before overtaking the V8 M3 :evilgrin:
Following a VERY well driven modified Cayman S for almost a full lap.
Showing several Porkers and Beemers how fast a Golf can be. :innocent:
Being overtaken by the 599XX and winding the window down so I could hear it better :laugh:
Watching all the hot metal scream by the pitlane straight in brilliant sunshine.
Truly a day to put down as memorable for all the right reasons. :happy2:
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very cool vid John...u sure weren't hanging about!
do u need to wear a lid for the VLN circuit??
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very cool vid John...u sure weren't hanging about!
do u need to wear a lid for the VLN circuit??
Yes a lid was mandatory as was fitting a TOW eye. :happy2:
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whens the next trip???
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Favourite pic of my car (until the ones I bought arrive :evilgrin:)
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Pitlane garage reserved in my name. :jumping:
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whens the next trip???
I'm debating the one in August, but that will only happen if I can swap shifts. Otherwise it will be another trackday next year.
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think i will join you mate if thats ok :scared:
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very cool vid John...u sure weren't hanging about!
do u need to wear a lid for the VLN circuit??
Yes a lid was mandatory as was fitting a TOW eye. :happy2:
cheers john best remember to take mine then!
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^ A rare moment with Hurdy not on track ^
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very cool vid John...u sure weren't hanging about!
do u need to wear a lid for the VLN circuit??
....You need to wear a lid for every properly organised trackday and it's a no-brainer. I'll be wearing mine if I ever do another Touristfahrten (doubtful).
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whens the next trip???
I'm debating the one in August, but that will only happen if I can swap shifts. Otherwise it will be another trackday next year.
....Keep me informed if you fancy doing the same again (and I'll start saving money now!). :drinking:
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yes i know RR but TF days are optional if u want to wear a lid or not.
but as i'll be doing the VLN next month best take my lid so as not to miss out!
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I'll keep you all informed if I can get the time off. :happy2:
Here's a pic by a pro photographer on the Karrussel (Redrobin, your pics must have arrived too!)
The guy in the passenger seat is the one who gave me some instruction in the Porsche. He looks happy with that grin on his face. :laugh:
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Looks like you had a brilliant time, wish I could be there... Only 11 months to wait! :party:
Still sporting your dubkorps jumper I see :grin:
Did you get footage of that 599 overtaking you you overtaking that 599? :rolleye: :P
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nice pro photo and cool vid, looks fun :driver:
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Here's a pic by a pro photographer on the Karrussel (Redrobin, your pics must have arrived too!)
....Yep, I got mine last night. I've already posted in Reply #10 - The other pics were a bit ordinary. But here's the best of the rest:
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I ain't no expert and I think you'd had your tuition after that so it'd be sucking eggs anyways. Decent pedalling.
Did you start using M at all? The box was humping around cogs all over the place in S and that would have un-nerved me somewhat.
I used M on about 8 laps usually on the second flying lap. Must have hit the rev limiter about 10 times in all, but the lap times were similar anyway. Traction control was off for about 12 laps after discovering I didn't need it and it helped with pulling cleanly out of tighter corners where the traction control was cutting in. Shows that the box is working great too :happy2:
Waiting before turning off the ESP just sounds like good practices to me, you've gotta get a feel for the tarmac on the given day before switching it all off and giving it 6-nowt!
The car's performed well then - strong as a bloody ox these MK5's!! What about consumables - did you do a set of tyres/pads in?
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Waiting before turning off the ESP just sounds like good practices to me, you've gotta get a feel for the tarmac on the given day before switching it all off and giving it 6-nowt!
....Later in the day, plus some tuition, I started going faster (don't ask because I don't time laps) and so the ESP kicked in much more, especially with road tyres. When I switched the ESP off for the GP section where there's more space I carried too much speed into a corner and took to the hard green stuff but got back on without landing in the kitty litter.
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Well done guys!! Looks like you had an awesome time there!
Alex
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Good that you lost it safely though Robin, you'll know exactly what it feels like when it's on the limit again next time and correct it before it snaps.
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Good that you lost it safely though Robin, you'll know exactly what it feels like when it's on the limit again next time and correct it before it snaps.
....I'll be keeping the ESP on for a while on the Nordschleife though and go for road-legal track tyres and a tad more frontal camber with TT arms (Hurdy's advice).
Earlier, George suggested the option of going slow with ESP off and building it up over time.
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Robin just catching up regarding the bigger rears.
Just a few Questions did you stick with the DS's on the front or go with the Blues how many laps? how hard were you pushing? any fade and lastly regarding the rears did you get the impression you were as fast with just less drama or less drama and faster?
You got the Tarox's on Hurdy?
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Good that you lost it safely though Robin, you'll know exactly what it feels like when it's on the limit again next time and correct it before it snaps.
....I'll be keeping the ESP on for a while on the Nordschleife though and go for road-legal track tyres and a tad more frontal camber with TT arms (Hurdy's advice).
Earlier, George suggested the option of going slow with ESP off and building it up over time.
I don't want to ruin a thread with dynamics - but as a quicky. TT arms deffo, good call.
Sticky tyres just means you get more grip and therefore go faster around corners.. they don't stop you making mistakes and as a consequence you make them happen faster and they're harder to save. The 'building up' plan is the best option, when your tyres are getting a bit worn book a day at somewhere like Bedford with acres of track width and run off and get it sliding about.
Lift off o/s can be your friend!
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Looks like you had a brilliant time, wish I could be there... Only 11 months to wait! :party:
Still sporting your dubkorps jumper I see :grin:
Did you get footage of that 599 overtaking you you overtaking that 599? :rolleye: :P
No footage of that.....hold on a minute.......thanks to frozenspeed.
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The car's performed well then - strong as a bloody ox these MK5's!! What about consumables - did you do a set of tyres/pads in?
The R888's probably have a local trackday left in them. They have molten rubber stuck to them, but they still grip better than the road tyres.
The pads were brand new for the trip and I've done about half of them now :evilgrin:
The brakes were phenomenal and never faded, plenty of feel to them and shaved off speed VERY well :happy2:
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Robin just catching up regarding the bigger rears.
Just a few Questions did you stick with the DS's on the front or go with the Blues how many laps? how hard were you pushing? any fade and lastly regarding the rears did you get the impression you were as fast with just less drama or less drama and faster?
....I stuck with the DS2500's on my front AP's and had the oem(?) pads you supplied with the rears.
I spent the day concentrating on where the turn-ins are and the best lines. I've now got the tricky Wehrseifen to Lauder's Barbecue nailed fairly consistently and got a big buzz from being smooth. I'm sure you know me well enough by now to know I'm simply not into lap times or lifting wheels.
I only did one full VLN lap plus VLN cool-down at a time with a break in between.
The brakes gave no problems whatsoever but I am only just beginning to get used to the improved braking performance.
Btw, I know other people's views on the importance of splash guards (on my rears) but what's yours? (I don't have any fitted).
ADDENDA:
Less drama? - Yes. The only drama is the question if someone close behind you can stop!
Faster? - Dunno, but reckon it potentially is because everything is more flowing.
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Robin just catching up regarding the bigger rears.
Just a few Questions did you stick with the DS's on the front or go with the Blues how many laps? how hard were you pushing? any fade and lastly regarding the rears did you get the impression you were as fast with just less drama or less drama and faster?
You got the Tarox's on Hurdy?
Yes I have the 10 pots with 2 piece discs and Rallye+ pads, with the S3 rears. They work VERY well together and braking is very neutral and balanced. My recommendation would be to always have the rears upgraded to the S3's if you are running a big brake kit up front. I'd say less drama and faster for sure :happy2:
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The 'building up' plan is the best option, when your tyres are getting a bit worn book a day at somewhere like Bedford with acres of track width and run off and get it sliding about.
Lift off o/s can be your friend!
....Thanks, Mike :drinking:. Then I think I'll ask my friend Mark Farmer (ex VWR) to give me some tuition at Bedford.
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How they behave when you get them by the scruff of the neck - you never have to understeer again!
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Some more pics of the cars there on the day :happy2:
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I recognise that ATP prepped Evo, lovely car! :happy2:
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Whats that silver blur on all those photo's??? :confused:
Oh that must be Hurdy flying past! :grin: :driver:
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That video is extremely impressive Hurdy! :congrats: :congrats:
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Nice one lads, great footage John, :ashamed: M3 :ashamed:
John was it still stripped out? weight saving must make a big difference :happy2:
Neil
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Hi Neil,
The ED30 did have the rear seats out and no spare steel wheel (had 4 in the car!!). I reckon by going for it I can strip the car below 1100kg. :evilgrin:
The M3 is a lovely car.....just not faster than an ED30 :innocent:
All day I was overtaking M3's and only once let a seriously modified CSL pass just to follow his race lines (even then he didn't get away!)
If you seriously want sound and speed, get a MKV R32 DSG and either supercharge or turbo it (£30k will get you the car and 500bhp!!)
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Good that you lost it safely though Robin, you'll know exactly what it feels like when it's on the limit again next time and correct it before it snaps.
....I'll be keeping the ESP on for a while on the Nordschleife though and go for road-legal track tyres and a tad more frontal camber with TT arms (Hurdy's advice).
Earlier, George suggested the option of going slow with ESP off and building it up over time.
your car will be an absolute weapon with them on RR.
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Sy, are you going back to germany after coneheads?
So long as I'm not worse off with 2 increments this year and
getting a pad in august, the ring will be 2nd home :)
good job camskill deliver tax free to bfpo! :p
Havnt seen your vid yet john cause the wifi where I am is appauling!
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....I'll be keeping the ESP on for a while on the Nordschleife though and go for road-legal track tyres and a tad more frontal camber with TT arms (Hurdy's advice).
Earlier, George suggested the option of going slow with ESP off and building it up over time.
your car will be an absolute weapon with them on RR.
....Not as powerful a weapon as Master Hurdy's though! I just need to learn to exploit my car's handling a bit more. I want to go to the August private trackday at the Ring if I can. But also Oulton Park.
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So very jealous mr hurdy.
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EDIT: I just noticed I'm giving my usual one-finger greeting!
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Love this pic Robin, it is very dynamic. :congrats:
Looks like you had a blast chaps, with amazing track conditions. :congrats:
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Great write up guys - well done! :congrats:
Hurdy - that video is stunning! You seem to know exactly when to brake and which line to take for the corners :driver:
It was like watching The Stig!!
It shows what can be achieved with a fast car and a good driver....'supercars' are put to shame! :jumpmove:
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Love this pic Robin, it is very dynamic. :congrats:
Looks like you had a blast chaps, with amazing track conditions. :congrats:
....That Mercedes grandstand is such a landmark. Can you imagine driving there when it's full of people!
We were so lucky with the conditions - As you know, the weather there is predictably unpredictable and there could even have been snow!
I bet you're so looking forward to your May trip - Not long now :drinking:
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Love this pic Robin, it is very dynamic. :congrats:
Looks like you had a blast chaps, with amazing track conditions. :congrats:
....That Mercedes grandstand is such a landmark. Can you imagine driving there when it's full of people!
We were so lucky with the conditions - As you know, the weather there is predictably unpredictable and there could even have been snow!
I bet you're so looking forward to your May trip - Not long now :drinking:
Yes very much looking forward to it now, especially going with the youngun's as well, Joe Tom and Jay. :party:
Robin how come you said earlier in the thread, that you may not be visiting the ring any more. :smiley:
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Robin how come you said earlier in the thread, that you may not be visiting the ring any more. :smiley:
....I meant that I might not go to any more Touristfahrten days and only go to private trackdays at the Ring (there's another being planned for August).
I'm not anti Touristfarting - It's just that with my limited experience I felt so much safer without the bikes and buses and that inevitable percentage of drivers who don't actually have much clue how to be safe.
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I need to get out there pronto! Sounds like a fun trip
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I need to get out there pronto! Sounds like a fun trip
....Don't wait until you're 62yo to do it like I did!
Still, better late than never.
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Alos a member on NL so had a Read, there seems to be a touch of anti Hurdy feeling, not sure why........... I have sat with John, and lenjoyed the experience. Something akin to having a pillion lap around Donny with Neil Whitham (many moons ago!)
What was the problem with the police RR? Or is that NL giving duff info? Redline (I know) Golf and the Polizei?
Great trip!
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Fantastic read and pics..It brought back that sick feeling I had on my first lap,car was only 3 weeks old.Them times are pretty good,tho as RR says you should,nt time em... Wot no Sabine stalking. :party: Sat next to her in the Am Tiergarten.She was very happy to pose for pics and talk about been better than Clarkson. :driver:
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Alos a member on NL so had a Read, there seems to be a touch of anti Hurdy feeling, not sure why........... I have sat with John, and lenjoyed the experience. Something akin to having a pillion lap around Donny with Neil Whitham (many moons ago!)
What was the problem with the police RR? Or is that NL giving duff info? Redline (I know) Golf and the Polizei?
Great trip!
....Hi Dave,
Any anti Hurdy feeling was very understandable and to be expected. Hurdy wasn't the first to join that forum and then post he'd done a zillion laps on playstation etc, just a few actual laps driven, and that his lap times were fast and that he was out to lap faster - Kinda both challenging and, without knowing Hurdy, you'd be forgiven for thinking reckless. Such people have often ended up crashing.
But now it's all done, Hurdy has major respect and the real cred he deserves.
Lap timing is strictly verboten on trackdays but everybody, except me, does it. I'm not anti lap timing but I just personally prefer to drive and learn at my own pace without such self imposed pressure and there is a heck of a lot to learn about driving the Ring. I got one or two (short) sections nailed though.
Gotta dash.. Will post about my police stop on return.
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Great trip - awesome video Hurdy!
So what happened on the way back RR!!!!!!
Followed the entire thread through since Hurdy mentioned it in his initial post, and notice you are still keeping us in suspense!!
Hurdy...............Oh Hurdy.....................well just............. :notworthy:
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Yeah, I posted up a "feeler" thread, that sort of developed into a will he or won't he crash thread :laugh:
I hammed it up a little and it turned into one of those epic/legendary banter threads. It did the trick of getting me well known very quickly. I was stood next to one guy after the trackday at the Comfy Corner and he asked if I was new, I replied yeah, I'm Hurdy - his reply was....."So you're Hurdy, I'd been wanting to see you throughout the day, but you were always on track...epic thread mate" :grin:
The "Hurdycross" thread is turning into another good thread - based on the fact I took a "shortcut" across the grass at over 100mph to overtake a BMW that had just indicated to let me pass :driver: The guy just happened to be videoing the lap too!!
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Just found this link for you...
Think it explains the prescence of the 599xx
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/news/default.asp?storyId=21852 (http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/news/default.asp?storyId=21852)
New target time Hurdy?
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What was the problem with the police RR? Or is that NL giving duff info? Redline (I know) Golf and the Polizei?
So what happened on the way back RR!!!!!!
Followed the entire thread through since Hurdy mentioned it in his initial post, and notice you are still keeping us in suspense!!
....Batting along with Hurdy in front and driving according to traffic and conditions. Which meant anything from 90-110mph mostly. I'd been the one to warn Hurdy about police usually setting ambushes near country borders and low and behold, about 25km from French border with Belgium I spot a police bike ahead parked and waiting for me. We both knew what it was about and I slowed, changed lanes and followed him into the Jabberwocky services (E40) where a police mobile office was parked.
"Does anyone speak English, please?" was obviously my first question and a guy came over and asked if I knew the speed limit in Belgium. I said no and that I simply drove according to traffic flow and conditions and that meant that sometimes it involved speeding. He was satisfied and didn't give me a lecture and told me that the limit was 120kmh and I'd done 146kmh so I had to pay a fine. All I was interested in was if points were given and he quite proudly said not in Belgium. He then took my licence and asked me to go to the services shop to get some cash.
In the queue were an English couple who had also been stopped. They were really miserable and were accusing the police of only stopping English cars. They weren't petrolheads. Stupid people - There's no point being miserable or getting arsey. To get cash back I bought a couple of chunky Kit-Kat bars and when I got back to the police office I showed but held back the cash but put the Kit-Kat bars on their desk and said that was the real reason they stopped me. That got laughs all round and we started chatting, mostly about how the French police were worse and a bit about my car which one of them seemed to like.
One of them started to tell me that there was no speed limit in France and then made a pretend call to tell them a red Golf was heading their way. He then told me the border was 25km and that their limit was 130kmh and the French police were not so kind.
An English biker on a very mean black Yamaha R1 had also been stopped and had no number plate fixed so I helped him with some gaffer tape. I'd seen him at the motorsport hotel where we stayed.
I think that without a points system, driving can be more relaxed because you can go as fast as the conditions safely allow and then accept that occasionally you might have to make a financial contribution. Bloody UK! Crap UK roads etc, rant rant rant :wink:
Hurdy was parked up waiting for me at the next stop and we continued the last part of our journey at an extremely boring 130kmh speed - Dull!
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You smooth old dog you Robin! :love:
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Luckily didnt get the points!
And I hope they bloody gave the kit kit bars back! lol
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you cant get points abroad.
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Luckily didnt get the points!
And I hope they bloody gave the kit kit bars back! lol
....One of the Kit-Kat bars is still in my fridge :party:
Yeah, good job about no points - Let's hope that the Eurocrats never get their act together and never have the same road laws throughout the various EEC countries. They can't even coordinate DRL rules, so there's hope! I've heard nasty stories about Kent police assisting French police in catching English speedsters in Northern France but don't know how true they are.
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And here was me thinking that as it involved RR it was going to to be Fruity. No Lesbian Police ladies involved, no strip searches (brace yerself I am coming in dry RR!!)
Still you did give him 4 fingers.................................. :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL: :love: :love: :love: :love:
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You never fail uncle :congrats: :congrats: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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this might have been while you were there:
http://www.pistonspy.com/spyshots/record-of-the-ferrari-599xx-at-the-nurburgring-announced-in-beijing
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this might have been while you were there:
http://www.pistonspy.com/spyshots/record-of-the-ferrari-599xx-at-the-nurburgring-announced-in-beijing
....It was. Already posted earlier in this thread.
The 599xx was on our trackday too.
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you cant get points abroad.
think you can in eu now mate.
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you cant get points abroad.
think you can in eu now mate.
....Well, Belgium is in the EU and I didn't get any points on Tuesday.
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you cant get points abroad.
think you can in eu now mate.
....Well, Belgium is in the EU and I didn't get any points on Tuesday.
maybe you were lucky?a french police officer told me last year and think i read it, but i may be wrong.
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you cant get points abroad.
think you can in eu now mate.
....Well, Belgium is in the EU and I didn't get any points on Tuesday.
maybe you were lucky?a french police officer told me last year and think i read it, but i may be wrong.
....The Frenchies probably enjoy scaring us. Perhaps it's something being discussed or intended in the future. I hope you're wrong and I'm sure you hope you're wrong too. :happy2:
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I read it somewhere last month, that Euro countries are going to start sharing databases at sometime this year, so if you gets points over there they will appear back in Blighty. Dont know where i read it, but it was based on catching Euro drivers over here more than us lot abroad. :happy2:
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I read it somewhere last month, that Euro countries are going to start sharing databases at sometime this year, so if you gets points over there they will appear back in Blighty. Dont know where i read it, but it was based on catching Euro drivers over here more than us lot abroad. :happy2:
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Then the next question has to be whether getting points in Euro will be automatic. I expect that the 'offence' will have UK points automatically added when appearing on Big Bully Brother's feckin' database.
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Aye it makes sense, thats what they will probably do. :sad1:
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More than one of my collegues have been given 'dodgy'on the spot fines in France :fighting: No paper work or reference
even when asked for. Pretty certain they pocket the cash
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^^^^
The Belgian police who pulled me were pretty scathing about the French police. I got paperwork, though I haven't actually looked at it yet!
Anyway, we got back and both had a great time. I wanna do their next trackday in August.
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Look what I've just found Robin......caption comp time? :innocent:
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Wow... I'm more concerned what your doing following the batmobile!
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isnt that rr in the background on the grass kneeling for a cavity inspection :surprised:
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This vid shows the whole VLN circuit we did. An awesome vid anyway:
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the porsche is like a precision instrument but the viper is more like a sledge hammer :driver:
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This vid shows the whole VLN circuit we did. An awesome vid anyway:
i could just watch them to at each other all day long. thats entertainment. what car was it that the over took about 6.22 into the video
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Lambo
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the porsche is like a precision instrument but the viper is more like a sledge hammer :driver:
....Perfect description!
The Viper sounds like a bag of nails too.
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I am so thinking of selling the golf and getting my arse in a Porsche :ashamed:
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oh my god that video is fantastic!!
HOW CLOSE??
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Holy sh*t!!!! Was that a track day, race day or what??? That car about 3.20 into the vid must of sh*t himself....porsche passed on the right and the viper on the left. Man what a video :notworthy:
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That is an awesome video!!
Alex
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I am so thinking of selling the golf and getting my arse in a Porsche :ashamed:
And after you told me off for suggesting this was the way forward too.... shame on you!
964's FTW. Requires LOTS of chest hair and half your brain removing though.
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We are in talks of going next year to watch the f1!
Never been before and can't wait to get out to the ring :ashamed: :evilgrin:
Glad you guys are back without any major hiccups! :happy2:
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As I posted earlier in this thread, both Hurdy and I had some rides and friendly informal tuition in a yellow Porsche 993 C4 - 4WD and very well planted - Not scary at all.
There are many different Porsches to choose from.
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I am so thinking of selling the golf and getting my arse in a Porsche :ashamed:
And after you told me off for suggesting this was the way forward too.... shame on you!
964's FTW. Requires LOTS of chest hair and half your brain removing though.
911 For me i think :smiley: i am so going to test drive one asap
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^^ Super LOL!
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and half your brain removing though.
That really doesn't leave much behind with Mat. :signLOL: :jumpmove:
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911-964
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and half your brain removing though.
That really doesn't leave much behind with Mat. :signLOL: :jumpmove:
:rolleye: :P cheeky git but then again your as bad as me :grin:
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Great vid John and balls of steel in some of those bends too. Can't wait to get there myself towards the later part of the year hopefully..
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Great vid John and balls of steel in some of those bends too. Can't wait to get there myself towards the later part of the year hopefully..
You NEED to do this Ben, just to say that you've been :happy2:
Awesome track and an awesome experience :driver:
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Great vid John and balls of steel in some of those bends too. Can't wait to get there myself towards the later part of the year hopefully..
You NEED to do this Ben, just to say that you've been :happy2:
Awesome track and an awesome experience :driver:
....Be warned though, Ben, and anyone else who hasn't been yet - It's an addictive Mecca!
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Here's a great vid showing the circuit we had, driven with very educational commentary by Hans Stuck - Enjoy!
"Ooops! A little oversteer.. Full on the thwottle.."
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8'19" makes my time look rather poorly :laugh:
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Here's a great vid showing the circuit we had, driven with very educational commentary by Hans Stuck - Enjoy!
"Ooops! A little oversteer.. Full on the thwottle.."
great video - not seen that one before and man the one liners are endless! lol :congrats:
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great video - not seen that one before and man the one liners are endless! lol :congrats:
....You sure about that? It was posted on Northloop :happy2: Excellent wherever it's seen :drinking: