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Title: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: scotta on May 03, 2010, 09:35:10 am
Clutch has started to slip between 3 - 4k in 4/5/6th. Car has only done 19.5 k!

Anybody know prices/options for replacements?

Running bluefin stage one at the moment - is it worth sticking the standard map back on?

Could i chance it with a warranty claim if i stuck the standard map back on?

When you return the bluefin to standard does it flash the vag code back on or is it a superchips emulation of standard mode?

Any comments/suggestions welcome.

 :sad1:
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: MAT ED30 on May 03, 2010, 09:38:35 am
it will not slip in stock mode as the torque is what is making it slip so you will have to spend you money on a sachs clutch disc  :sad1: but then it will never slip again
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: subaru26675 on May 03, 2010, 10:35:09 am
you have pm  :happy2:
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: Poverty on May 03, 2010, 12:27:16 pm
does it only slip under WOT or normal driving also?
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: scotta on May 03, 2010, 01:49:33 pm
does it only slip under WOT or normal driving also?

Yep only on full bore!

Ive refalshed it back to standard and taken it a run - no issues on standard even on full bore up hill.

Was thinking i might have a word with superchips and see if they have a map with abit less peak torque further up the rev range? Anyone know if this is possible?
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: Poverty on May 03, 2010, 02:02:56 pm
does it only slip under WOT or normal driving also?

Yep only on full bore!

Ive refalshed it back to standard and taken it a run - no issues on standard even on full bore up hill.

Was thinking i might have a word with superchips and see if they have a map with abit less peak torque further up the rev range? Anyone know if this is possible?

deffo possible, its either that or just shift down so you are above 4k rpm when giving it the beans
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: scotta on May 05, 2010, 12:41:34 pm
Got quoted £580 for an oem replacement clutch fitted including vat. :confused:
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: robern2 on May 05, 2010, 01:32:51 pm
I paid £780 for a Helix clutch fitted inc new release bearing.
The Helix is comparible to the Sachs item discussed on this thread.
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: scotta on May 05, 2010, 01:53:26 pm
Spoke to superchips who have just sent me a different map to try with a less aggressive torque delivery. Will give it a bash later on tonight and see how it goes.
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: Saint Steve on May 05, 2010, 02:45:27 pm
Spoke to superchips who have just sent me a different map to try with a less aggressive torque delivery. Will give it a bash later on tonight and see how it goes.

You may not like it. I didnt :sad1:

Went back to the Full fat version :smiley:

It will only get worse over time if your running any sort of map. So as Matt said, start saving up for the Sachs.

Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: scotta on May 05, 2010, 03:48:11 pm
Spoke to superchips who have just sent me a different map to try with a less aggressive torque delivery. Will give it a bash later on tonight and see how it goes.

You may not like it. I didnt :sad1:

Went back to the Full fat version :smiley:

It will only get worse over time if your running any sort of map. So as Matt said, start saving up for the Sachs.



Hmmm will see how it goes! Did you have to flash it back to standard first before installing the Diet version?
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: joesgti on May 05, 2010, 03:58:51 pm
has anybody had any experience or hurd of a clutch slipping on a KO3??
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: chungster on May 05, 2010, 04:34:34 pm
has anybody had any experience or hurd of a clutch slipping on a KO3??

yup. All depends on which brand of OEM clutch you have. If you have a LUK one then start saving for a replacement.
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: wigit on May 05, 2010, 04:35:13 pm
has anybody had any experience or hurd of a clutch slipping on a KO3??

yup. All depends on which brand of OEM clutch you have. If you have a LUK one then start saving for a replacement.

 :surprised:
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: joesgti on May 05, 2010, 04:40:12 pm
has anybody had any experience or hurd of a clutch slipping on a KO3??

yup. All depends on which brand of OEM clutch you have. If you have a LUK one then start saving for a replacement.

how do i know?? my cars an 05?

whats the symptoms
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: chungster on May 05, 2010, 04:53:10 pm
Early cars were known to have the crappy LUK clutches. My 06 one did and failed as soon as remap went on
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: joesgti on May 05, 2010, 06:40:03 pm
Early cars were known to have the crappy LUK clutches. My 06 one did and failed as soon as remap went on

now your starting to worry me!!
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: gazbutS3 on May 05, 2010, 06:42:11 pm
Early cars were known to have the crappy LUK clutches. My 06 one did and failed as soon as remap went on

now your starting to worry me!!

don't worry Joe, we all know your car is a mutant, it should have blown up years ago but hasn't!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: Saint Steve on May 05, 2010, 07:20:56 pm
Spoke to superchips who have just sent me a different map to try with a less aggressive torque delivery. Will give it a bash later on tonight and see how it goes.

You may not like it. I didnt :sad1:

Went back to the Full fat version :smiley:

It will only get worse over time if your running any sort of map. So as Matt said, start saving up for the Sachs.



Hmmm will see how it goes! Did you have to flash it back to standard first before installing the Diet version?
Yes, load your stock map, then Bluefin will email you the new one.
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: winrya on May 05, 2010, 08:37:04 pm
Most model year gti's had LUK clutches, it was the first batch of flywheels which were flaky and caused clutches to fail.  They had a short period of using sashs clutches but have now gone back to a modified LUK clutches.  My 05 gti failed at 39k :sad1:  LUK are the only clutches VW will put on the gti now
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: joesgti on May 05, 2010, 09:02:31 pm
Early cars were known to have the crappy LUK clutches. My 06 one did and failed as soon as remap went on

now your starting to worry me!!

don't worry Joe, we all know your car is a mutant, it should have blown up years ago but hasn't!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 :grin: :grin: :grin:

i lol'd!!
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: MattPoss on May 05, 2010, 09:46:12 pm
My diesel had a LUK flywheel fitted from new but got recalled shortly after, the replacement was a Sachs one. After 51k and 2 flywheels, it's needing another one now. I'll have to 'adapt' my driving slightly to suit it I think, quite a lot of torque going through it at the minute!

Matt
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: mk2mexico on June 17, 2010, 09:07:59 am
Mine is a 06 gti 3 door manual
 after a stage 1 remap and while under 4k in the rev range and in say 4/5/6th gear when u floor it it judders and then takes off is this the dual mass flywheel going or clutch slip??? it also does it when cornering at a fair speed?
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: MAT ED30 on June 17, 2010, 09:13:21 am
if its a judder i would say dmf is on its way out so turn you map off to help save it the abuse until you can sort it
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: vRS Carl on June 17, 2010, 10:02:22 am
My Clutch went at around 17k miles on my vRS (K03) when i was REVO Stage 1 mapped.

I just got a Sachs Clutch fitted and it wasn't much more than a standard OEM one  :happy2:

Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: mk2mexico on June 17, 2010, 10:14:17 am
Thanks for the info  :congrats:
the clutch is fine and not slipping i think?
it looks like the dmf cant cope withe the extra tourqe at low revs when i boot it
im off to re map the car back to standard
ah well it woz good while it lasted. :ashamed:
Title: Re: Clutch slipping plus questions
Post by: john_o on June 17, 2010, 01:38:29 pm
I wouldnt be too hasty on the clutch being the issue mk2mexico
You state it also happens when    'it also does it when cornering at a fair speed'  , cornering should have no bearing on whether the clutch is slipping or not.......

judder could be overboost , poor engine mounts , coilpack misfire any number of things.

have you scanned for fault codes from the ECU?