MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: joesgti on May 24, 2010, 02:07:45 pm
So my best mate crashed his mk3 gti on friday, he is a uni student and had to hand all his work in on friday, so he stupidly stayed up for 2 day's in the libary in UCLAN with no sleep. handed his work in and drove home.

He got round the corner of his house (after a 20 mile drive) and fell asleep (literally 20 secs from his house), smashed into a curb and through somebodys back garden. now the car may be a write off but the insurence said they wont pay out because its 'modified' it has lowered susspension (springs) and alloy wheels, now they havnt even inspected the car, they called up and asked if it was modified and he said yes, they dont know any of the mods and havnt inspected it, he just said 'yes'. so with such small mods should they be paying out?? 

where does he stand? any advise would be great  :smiley:
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: Hedge on May 24, 2010, 02:12:39 pm
Nowadays Joe the insurance companies will do whatever they can to avoid paying out. Sorry to say but he could well be buggered.

This is why you really need to declare any mods. He may get lucky though and might try by offering to pay the difference in premium with the mods.
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: joesgti on May 24, 2010, 02:13:46 pm
even though the mods are just cosmetic??
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: Hedge on May 24, 2010, 02:19:46 pm
Not in their eyes Joe.
Lowered = better handling and Alloys potentially means bigger/wider wheels and lower profile tyres therefore better handling.

Essentially even cosmetic mods count as they make the car more desirable to thieves.
Adding carbon wrap will bump up your excess so essentially a carbon wrapped splitter could have insurance implications if not informed.

Sorry mate just one of those things.
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: bacillus on May 24, 2010, 02:20:08 pm
The insurer would probably say that the rims make the car more desirable for a would be thief and hence required a higher premium.
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: big al on May 24, 2010, 02:20:38 pm
even though the mods are just cosmetic??

Would lowering be classed as cosmetic, as it can change the drive of a car, Why did he not declare it if he thought that they were such small modifications, as on that thinking it would not effect the premium very much.
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: joesgti on May 24, 2010, 02:26:47 pm
when insureing it he wasnt asked and he bought the car as it was, he hasnt done any mods himself.
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: Hedge on May 24, 2010, 02:31:34 pm
Even if he wasn't asked that is not really an excuse, he obviously knew as he told them.  :confused:

I think every insurance broker I have ever phoned or tried online has asked if it is a standard car or if there has been any mods. This is their get out clause. He could try "but you never asked" but I'm not convinced that will make them change their stance.
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: big al on May 24, 2010, 02:37:15 pm
when insureing it he wasnt asked and he bought the car as it was, he hasnt done any mods himself.

It's not for them to know, its for him to tell them.
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: MAT ED30 on May 24, 2010, 02:39:29 pm
as above mate its a no no from the insurance as they need to know if its got mods and even if you did not know well then thats not there problem its yours for not checking
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: Poppa Dom on May 24, 2010, 02:52:08 pm
Joe,
Looks like he's going to have problems mate. Everything that has been said so far stresses the importance of declaring all modifications  :sad1: Not what he will want to hear but his modifications are not just cosmetic.
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: vRS Carl on May 24, 2010, 03:22:40 pm
Best advice mate is what Ian said as any Mods not declared usually mean they won't pay out.

Get him to speak to them and say if he agrees to pay the difference in the Premium will they cover him.

He may have to fork out a bit now but even if its £500 they want it will be a lot cheaper than a new car.
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: Gene Hunt on May 24, 2010, 04:36:57 pm
The insurer would probably say that the rims make the car more desirable for a would be thief and hence required a higher premium.
.........thats what they told me when i was quoted for edition 30 aloys on a standard mk5 GTI.
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: joesgti on May 24, 2010, 05:58:13 pm
all is now fine.  :innocent:
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: JPC on May 24, 2010, 06:00:58 pm
you swapped the springs and alloys on a bent car? haha!
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: neg on May 24, 2010, 07:33:04 pm
you swapped the spring

thats what went through my mind  :surprised:
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: jimlad09 on May 24, 2010, 07:45:07 pm
pleased he's all sorted but i had this with my first car, a polo which i wrote off. I had put some vw alloys on and done all the sound system up (was smart for my first effots if i do say so myself  :ashamed: ) but when i wrote it off they insurance "engineer" said that he wasnt sure about the alloys and i said its just how i bought it and as they were vw thought nothing of it. He was ok and put me through in the top bracket for pay out as he could which was brilliant!

asking to take the wheels off was a bit cheeky and he said no  :P
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: stealthwolf on May 24, 2010, 10:34:50 pm
Normally, if there's any difference in the car from when it came out of the factory to when you insure it, you must declare the differences.
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: animal on May 25, 2010, 12:53:27 am
Normally, if there's any difference in the car from when it came out of the factory to when you insure it, you must declare the differences.

Precisely... Modified means altered from original specification in anyway, doesn't matter if it's an OE part or not.
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: joesgti on May 25, 2010, 09:27:22 am
you swapped the spring

thats what went through my mind  :surprised:

nope,  :innocent:

as it happens theres a few more mods than meets the eye. the 'springs' are actually eibach coilovers i found out last night, also has a short ratio gear box, intake, and a few other supprises. its not going through insurence,  :smiley:
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: andrewparker on May 25, 2010, 10:17:51 am
INSURANCE


Sorry to be a pedant
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: Top Cat on May 25, 2010, 10:23:41 am
INSURANCE


Sorry to be a pedant

Joe is illiterate  dyslexic so your going to have to relax MR Parker.   :drinking:
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: andrewparker on May 25, 2010, 10:32:28 am
INSURANCE


Sorry to be a pedant

Joe is illiterate  dyslexic so your going to have to relax MR Parker.   :drinking:

I can't, I have OCD, it's the bane of my life :jumping:
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: joesgti on May 25, 2010, 10:35:45 am
i should use spell check!  :chicken:
Title: Re: Friends crashed his mk3....... needs advice!!!
Post by: 94Luke on May 25, 2010, 04:25:49 pm
The insurer would probably say that the rims make the car more desirable for a would be thief and hence required a higher premium.

I've read this one before, but if you've been in a crash a thief would hardly steal them!!  :stupid: :chicken: