MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Technical Workshop => Topic started by: Tfsi_Mike on June 05, 2010, 11:31:18 am
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At what Mileage / interval do people clean the filter element of the ITG?
After an attempt at logging it wasnt flowing near what other KO4 cars are with the same setup.
Wondering if it is due a good clean?
What method is best?
thanks in advance :happy2:
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Last time i spoke to ITG they were developing a cleaning fluid for the filters, but andy said they need doing every 10k miles
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Think Ive done between 5 - 10k Cheers dude
I read something about using petrol to clean them?? :confused: ( I think? lol)
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Yeah thats right mike, it helps get the oil out of the filter easily
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Mike, I cleaned mine last weekend with petrol and warm soapy water, i was amazed at the amount of muck that came out of it!
[pdf]http://www.itgairfilters.com/downloads/General%20oiling%20and%20cleanin...pdf[/pdf]
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forgive my stupidness chaps, but after cleaning did you guys oil the filter as i seem to remember a while back that, its not a good idea to oil them. :happy2:
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the ITG filters must be oiled :happy2:
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Ok cheers Gaz, wasn't there a fuss over this a while back though, i seem to remember people wiping of the excess, when buying a filter. :smiley:
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mike yours shouldnt need a clean after only being on the car a few months. granted it cant hurt giving it a clean though. i reckon you definately need APR to tweak your map. you have strange specified boost, and a decat fitted, so quite alot could be out of sync. hat would be my first port of call. whens the last time you had it dyno'd??
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Ok cheers Gaz, wasn't there a fuss over this a while back though, i seem to remember people wiping of the excess, when buying a filter. :smiley:
yeh that was the panel filters that turned up really oily on delivery, was a good move to wipe the excess off before fitting :happy2:
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How would you go about cleaning an evoms cone filter? Could i use the K&N cleaning kit?
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mike yours shouldnt need a clean after only being on the car a few months. granted it cant hurt giving it a clean though. i reckon you definately need APR to tweak your map. you have strange specified boost, and a decat fitted, so quite alot could be out of sync. hat would be my first port of call. whens the last time you had it dyno'd??
Hasnt been dyno'd since it was stage 1, carbonio, TBE. Cant imagine APR being able to do much for me, being a generic map.
I'll do those logs on the APR site and e-mail them. Think its time for a change though.
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its not a generic map as per a bluefin handset though surely. it is a generic map that will be set up by the APR tuners surely to suit an individual car. they must be able to adjust things like revo do.
have you spoken to awesomeGTI(think thats where you said you got it done) and said that your boost is strange and your AFR leaves a little to be desired.
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its not a generic map as per a bluefin handset though surely. it is a generic map that will be set up by the APR tuners surely to suit an individual car. they must be able to adjust things like revo do.
have you spoken to awesomeGTI(think thats where you said you got it done) and said that your boost is strange and your AFR leaves a little to be desired.
Havent rung them yet. Didn't want to ring saying I wasnt happy when I dont understand what the problem is. All I know is it doesnt feel as quick as it ought to :sad1:
Im sure awesome just burn a generic map to each car and say 'it will self adapt' Ill find out on Monday...
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What are your symptoms and log problems with the APR code Mike?
I have more or less same setup as you and could possibly do some comparison log's.
What sort of g/s do you achieve?
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Just watch when re-oiling the filters as too much oil can cause damage to the MAF, i made this mistake with my previous car while cleaning and re oiling filters
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Just watch when re-oiling the filters as too much oil can cause damage to the MAF, i made this mistake with my previous car while cleaning and re oiling filters
I have some spray left over from when i fitted the kit. Remember finding it difficult to judge what was enough / too much
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What are your symptoms and log problems with the APR code Mike?
I have more or less same setup as you and could possibly do some comparison log's.
What sort of g/s do you achieve?
248g/s iirc. Specified boost curve leaves a little to be desired, and lambda isnt the best. here is a link to the logs http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,15408.0.html . he needs to do them again i think though.
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What are your symptoms and log problems with the APR code Mike?
I have more or less same setup as you and could possibly do some comparison log's.
What sort of g/s do you achieve?
What air flow are you getting mate? Had 245 the 1st time and 235 on Friday! :confused: Some one with VF inlet (albeit with Hybrid KO4 pulled 303g/s yesterday.
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What are your symptoms and log problems with the APR code Mike?
I have more or less same setup as you and could possibly do some comparison log's.
What sort of g/s do you achieve?
What air flow are you getting mate? Had 245 the 1st time and 235 on Friday! :confused: Some one with VF inlet (albeit with Hybrid KO4 pulled 303g/s yesterday.
303g/s!!! :surprised:
Ive got evoms intake on my s3 and usually pull 250-253g/s max.
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Agreed, 303g/s is approx 394hp :surprised:
I have seen 255g/s but I can't remember if this was stock filter :signLOL:, it's been age's since I have done any test's and really should get out and do some.
If and when I can, are there any specific modules you would prefer to see first?
I'm not at home at the moment but when I do get in I'll have a look through my old log's to see what there like and send them to you for comparison. At a recent RR I went to my boost and AFR was also done which did seem a little peculiar, I sent them off to APR who assured me they were fine and in fact my car was acheiving better than expected. They also told of why my plot's looked like they did.
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id be pretty certain the filter is not the issue here. The revo K1 pulls in fine Hp with the same intake.
can some of you stage 2+ k04 geezers post up your requested and actual; boost plots please.