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Title: How to Build a Jet Engine - on BBC2 now
Post by: Thor on July 04, 2010, 09:09:39 pm
Don't miss it it'll be awesome  :happy2:
Title: Re: How to Build a Jet Engine - on BBC2 now
Post by: Toast on July 04, 2010, 09:11:36 pm
On it :happy2:
Title: Re: How to Build a Jet Engine - on BBC2 now
Post by: Thor on July 04, 2010, 09:22:30 pm
Just catch up with iplayer, tomorrow  :happy2:
Title: Re: How to Build a Jet Engine - on BBC2 now
Post by: JPC on July 04, 2010, 10:35:11 pm
Wow what a show!! Even steph was amazed!
Title: Re: How to Build a Jet Engine - on BBC2 now
Post by: snapey on July 04, 2010, 10:42:04 pm
Shame they only showed a small fraction of what actually goes on from start to finish, nice to see some coverage for British manufacturing mind.
Title: Re: How to Build a Jet Engine - on BBC2 now
Post by: DaveB@Vagbremtechnic on July 04, 2010, 11:12:46 pm
Sorry chaps....

Put your trust in god and Pratt & Whitney.....

Not a bad show though :happy2:
Title: Re: How to Build a Jet Engine - on BBC2 now
Post by: Beddie on July 04, 2010, 11:33:06 pm

Put your trust in god and Pratt & Whitney.....


Couldnt agree more! Got to really as they are helping protect my pension fund lol!, Pratt and Whitney that is, not god...  :signLOL:
Title: Re: How to Build a Jet Engine - on BBC2 now
Post by: Thor on July 05, 2010, 07:26:36 am
Sorry chaps....

Put your trust in god and Pratt & Whitney.....

Not a bad show though :happy2:

Only thing with PnW Dave is that they have to be given technology by RR.  The engines for the Joint strike fighter are all RR, the PnW units could not get near the thrust levels and the cried to Congress who told RR that they must share the technology or not get the contract.

RR all the way for me, my brother works for RR and the other year they shut the factory on a saturday and let workers take family around it was truely awesome.

Makes you proud to be British. :happy2:
Title: Re: How to Build a Jet Engine - on BBC2 now
Post by: markymark on July 05, 2010, 09:24:51 am
I watched this and it was great, my mate works for RR in Coventry and was on the programme last night...albeit very briefly! :happy2:
Title: Re: How to Build a Jet Engine - on BBC2 now
Post by: wigit on July 05, 2010, 12:47:59 pm
was a cracking show given RR are part funding the relocation of a turbine test facilty that i'm working on  :happy2:
Title: Re: How to Build a Jet Engine - on BBC2 now
Post by: snapey on July 05, 2010, 03:15:08 pm
Sorry chaps....

Put your trust in god and Pratt & Whitney.....

Not a bad show though :happy2:

Only thing with PnW Dave is that they have to be given technology by RR.  The engines for the Joint strike fighter are all RR, the PnW units could not get near the thrust levels and the cried to Congress who told RR that they must share the technology or not get the contract.

RR all the way for me, my brother works for RR and the other year they shut the factory on a saturday and let workers take family around it was truely awesome.

Makes you proud to be British. :happy2:

Not entirely true, the F136 is a GE cold end and Royce's hot end and the engine is only compatible with the Royce's lift fan so it's not an entire Royce's system as the American's would never allow a foreign company to have the majority threshold of a major US defence project in the same way the UK more than likely wouldn't.

In terms of P&W with large, commercial gas turbines, they lag the developments made by Royce's and GE considerably. This however may change if and when they sort the three-gear engine design out that shares similar architecture to the RB.211 and would more than likely bring engine efficiency up to the required standard being led by Royce's at this point in time.

I'm not slagging P&W or GE, both have some very solid power plants, but in terms of development (which a good chunk is solely funded through the US government through NASA and the USAF) and all engine sales subsidised, they still seem to lag Royce's whom's development is all funded by the PLC.
Title: Re: How to Build a Jet Engine - on BBC2 now
Post by: DaveB@Vagbremtechnic on July 05, 2010, 03:29:35 pm
Sorry chaps....

Put your trust in god and Pratt & Whitney.....

Not a bad show though :happy2:

Only thing with PnW Dave is that they have to be given technology by RR.  The engines for the Joint strike fighter are all RR, the PnW units could not get near the thrust levels and the cried to Congress who told RR that they must share the technology or not get the contract.

RR all the way for me, my brother works for RR and the other year they shut the factory on a saturday and let workers take family around it was truely awesome.

Makes you proud to be British. :happy2:

Im totally pro british and a RR Fan but dont forget without the Government bung they would have dissapeared into the ether 35 years ago, collaboration and tech-share is underpinning the global aerospace industry at the moment, if done correctly nobody loses both in a corporate sense and financially.

Current technology's in aerospace are coming to a point, thats to say wing/engine design are all getting pretty much aligned as with the amount of computing and simulation available everybody is pretty much in the broader sesign sense going to come up with the same answers - pretty much like cars look alike. It pays dividends to deploy your people into the next generation of technology and I dont mean technology that is flying today, I mean the blue sky stuff 2030 and beyond military and civil.

Yep RR build the Glamour Engines but consider nearly every small turboprop on the planet has a P&WC PT6 in it from 500-2000SHP, thats why they have engines with 300 million fleet hours as oposed to the Trents.........10 million fleet hours.

RR did get a coup with the triple spool concept but the trent's heritage goes way way back

Long live RR- its a british institution but remember...........   :signLOL:

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Title: Re: How to Build a Jet Engine - on BBC2 now
Post by: vRStu on July 05, 2010, 06:32:59 pm
Bugger - sounds like that was an interesting program.

If nothing else RR certainly know how to charge for their spares!!  It horrifies me when I see the prices of some of the parts we use.
Title: Re: How to Build a Jet Engine - on BBC2 now
Post by: Greeners on July 05, 2010, 11:23:47 pm
Just on BBC2 now!  :happy2:
Title: Re: How to Build a Jet Engine - on BBC2 now
Post by: john_o on July 06, 2010, 07:48:12 am
amazing show , only caught second half but brilliant  :happy2:
Title: Re: How to Build a Jet Engine - on BBC2 now
Post by: Hedge on July 06, 2010, 08:10:50 am
Bugger - sounds like that was an interesting program.

If nothing else RR certainly know how to charge for their spares!!  It horrifies me when I see the prices of some of the parts we use.

There is hope. It's possible to save iPlayer videos to your desktop. You need to install the BBC iPlayer desktop.
You can then view it up to 30 days after and once you view it you can then watch it any number of times in the next 7 days.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00t0yx9/How_to_Build..._A_Jumbo_Jet_Engine/

Select the dowload option.  :happy2:
Title: Re: How to Build a Jet Engine - on BBC2 now
Post by: vRStu on July 06, 2010, 12:14:29 pm
Thanks mate, I've asked HQ to save it for me.   :happy2:
Title: Re: How to Build a Jet Engine - on BBC2 now
Post by: Hedge on July 06, 2010, 12:31:47 pm
Thanks mate, I've asked HQ to save it for me.   :happy2:

S'alright I have a copy on my laptop that will work until Aug 5th if needed.  :wink:
Title: Re: How to Build a Jet Engine - on BBC2 now
Post by: vRStu on July 06, 2010, 08:36:36 pm
HQ has informed me that she has it on Sky +.  Sometimes she really does surprise me  :grin:
Title: Re: How to Build a Jet Engine - on BBC2 now
Post by: Hedge on July 06, 2010, 08:37:48 pm
HQ has informed me that she has it on Sky +.  Sometimes she really does surprise me  :grin:

 :signLOL:  I wont tell.