MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Edition_30_P on August 13, 2010, 07:24:16 pm
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Hi guys,
You lot are probably bored of my questions but, wanna make the right choices so need the correct advice! Which of the following Exhaust systems would you recommend from experience reviews or prefernces?
It's a toss up between the APR RSC or the Miltek but, I'm now considering the Blueflame as I've been hearing good stuff about it too!!
Many thanks in advance.
Phil
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Phil,
Im thinking about Miltek or Blueflame for the S3...
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Milltek cat back non res on my GTI. :smiley:
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I really wanted the APR RSC but it's too expensive!!
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what do you want the exhaust to do?
i wanted standard sound more power so i get milltek resonated and had it fitted today. does exactly what it says on the tin.
blueflame are pretty loud...in a good way just not what i was looking for and zero experience of the APR RSC, but i think? (never looked just assumed) it has a valve which allow it to be both? quiet at low speeds and loud when you press the loud pedal.
i have seen all the system off the car and all look well built and worth the cash.
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It's a tough one really pal. I have had both Milltek and Blueflame, the first on an ED30 and the latter on an S3.
The Milltek was a non-res, it sounded well and delivered the desired performance increase as promised in conjunction with the remap. It did get a little droney on the motorway at times and wasn't quite as loud as I would have liked! When it was sold the new owner did have a problem with one of the weld's cracking, however the required part was replaced under warranty by Milltek with no issues. Milltek did have a problem with weld's cracking quite frequently lately due to poor manafacturing, this problem has now been eradicated so i'm told. Would I have one again, probably not as Blueflame are in town :laugh:
Onto Blueflame, this was a custom TBE with a 100 CEL race cat and some beautifully engineered tips, the exhaust is sat in my garage at the moment and the craftsmanship of it is first class when looking up close. It sounded absolutely mental when pressing on, like no other 2.0 TFSI I have heard to date. It was very well behaved at cruising speeds on the motorway which is a big thing for me, as I do a LOT of motorway miles. A really great system, I would not hesitate to use them again in the future.
I don't know too much about the APR but I am sure other guys will be along to comment.
Hope this helps :wink: :happy2:
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Phil,
Im thinking about Miltek or Blueflame for the S3...
I had a Milly on my 3 door but only the front section and DP. Kept the OEM rear section as it offers little gain if any. A couple of us have tried this configuration and it works really well.
I'll be doing it again this time.
As for the OP's question - If you could afford/justify the expense of the RSC then it is a very nice bit of pipework.
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If you want to have a look at a well made exhaust then take the standard one off :happy2: it doesn't quite have the performance gains or noise that the after market parts provide but looks so much better quality than the millteks I had on my ed30..
My flex flange blew, turbo connecting pipe split (same place as hurdys) and my tailpipes cracked, now i must stress all parts were replaced under warranty by miltek and they have since revised the design which I hear is greatly improved but for me when I am considering a exhaust for my new car miltek will not be on the list
Apr would be my choice again but the price difference compared to the blue flame, can get you some extra mods :happy2:
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If you have the extra dosh, get the APR RSC :happy2: miltek 2nd choice.
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has any1 got a blueflame fitted 2 there ed30 i could have a listen take a ride out in ???
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Thanks everyone... I appreciate all your help! Tomorrow my Car is getting APR Stage 1, WALK, AP Coilovers and a Forge Twintake. Can't wait :grin:
End of the month if things go well and they are still about I'll be getting my wheels (Fingers crossed, Ash!)
I think I've narrowed it down to Blueflame and APR!!! And, a Milly as a last resort!!
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If you are getting the wheels which I think you are, oh lordy, they are going to look nice! They could make a Nissan Micra look nice! :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
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If you are getting the wheels which I think you are, oh lordy, they are going to look nice! They could make a Nissan Micra look nice! :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
Tom, Phil is talking about the fat Fives i have for sale not my Works wheels as i havent advertised them yet :happy2:
Thanks everyone... I appreciate all your help! Tomorrow my Car is getting APR Stage 1, WALK, AP Coilovers and a Forge Twintake. Can't wait :grin:
End of the month if things go well and they are still about I'll be getting my wheels (Fingers crossed, Ash!)
I think I've narrowed it down to Blueflame and APR!!! And, a Milly as a last resort!!
Cheers Phil, Im going to try and move them on before the end of the month! If i still have them the wheels are yours! :wink: I think il go with the same system as Tom has got on his S3 :smiley: Blueflame...
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Blueflame is sounding a bit nice! I been looking at prices and I've seen them for £800 for the full system! I don't think I'll be getting the APR as It's a bit expensive even though I would really like one!
Yea, I don't want you to wait around for me but, if they are still available then I'll take em! :happy2:
Really looking forward to getting my Car done tomorrow!!!
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I think with the APR you get the best of both the other 2 options. This would be my choice if money allowed. :happy2:
I think il go with the same system as Tom has got on his S3 :smiley: Blueflame...
The Blueflame on Tom's sound mental, for some reason it doesn't sound like a 4 pot, It has a big gurgle like a American V8. :driver:
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Thats exactly what I want! Also does any one what DV i can get that gives you that old school dump sound.... Love it!! Like the 1.8T's or Scooby's! :happy2:
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Milltek over Blueflame every time for me, customer service and after sales support is 1000x better. I have changed 2 Blueflame systems for millteks recently after the Blueflame exhausts have had problems that the manufacturers failed to resolve or even aknowledge existed.
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I went for the bluflame over the miltek because at the time miltek seemed to be having loads of downpipe failures. The blueflame has a real nice noise, with no droan at steady rpms eg motorway ect, which is perfect ! Everybody seems to be commenting on how loud it is, but if I'm honest I'd turn it up a notch if I could.
If you want the swoosh noise with out loosing power like from a dump valve get yourself an itg intake, they make great power and when pressing off you get a high pitch sucking noise, on lift off as the air is forced back through the intake it makes a loud kutchoooo noise, it's feckin brill, defo one of my fav mods !
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Milltek over Blueflame every time for me, customer service and after sales support is 1000x better. I have changed 2 Blueflame systems for millteks recently after the Blueflame exhausts have had problems that the manufacturers failed to resolve or even aknowledge existed.
That's got to be a good heads from a man on the frontline :happy2:
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Go and hear them both in real life and make a decision after that. Too many people make a decision on an exhaust without even hearing them in real life. More so with the APR as there aren't as many around for people to hear.
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Go and hear them both in real life and make a decision after that. Too many people make a decision on an exhaust without even hearing them in real life. More so with the APR as there aren't as many around for people to hear.
I can only compare Milltek and APR. A friend has the Milltek on his Mk V GTI, and qualty doesn't match the APR RSC i have on mine.
Wether you go Blueflame or APR, I would say your decision should be based upon how much you want to hear inside the car, the RSC system effectively eliminates the drone from inside the car. There's no valve but a box that eliminates any drone sounds produced by the engine, for a daily drive, longer trips you cant put a price on the comfort of this system, just my two pences :happy2:
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My head hurts from all the thinking! This is the problem I have as all my friend s have mk 2's, 3's or 4's.. I don't know anyone with a mk5 modified or an a3/s3 with exhausts! The nearest I'd get to hearing em is YouTube and that doesn't do any justice, lol!
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My head hurts from all the thinking! This is the problem I have as all my friend s have mk 2's, 3's or 4's.. I don't know anyone with a mk5 modified or an a3/s3 with exhausts! The nearest I'd get to hearing em is YouTube and that doesn't do any justice, lol!
all you have to ask yourself, do you want noise inside the car or not?? decision made :wink:
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My head hurts from all the thinking! This is the problem I have as all my friend s have mk 2's, 3's or 4's.. I don't know anyone with a mk5 modified or an a3/s3 with exhausts! The nearest I'd get to hearing em is YouTube and that doesn't do any justice, lol!
Everything that Danish is saying is correct.
Well, are there any tuners near you? Quite often they run demo cars with exhausts on, e.g. Tuningwerkes in Croydon (who supply both APR and Milltek) were running the RSC on their Golf GTI, and previously JKM had a Resonated Milltek on Kate's car..
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My head hurts from all the thinking! This is the problem I have as all my friend s have mk 2's, 3's or 4's.. I don't know anyone with a mk5 modified or an a3/s3 with exhausts! The nearest I'd get to hearing em is YouTube and that doesn't do any justice, lol!
Where abouts are you based mate?
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I actually know Rueben who owns Tuningwerkes. I was there today getting My APR Stage 1, WALK, AP Coilovers and my Forge Twintake. I've heard the APR zaust and that's what made me want it! the buil quality, desing and the sound is brilliant but, the price tag is bonkers :sad1:!
Tuningwerkes is my closest then AMD, The Phirm and then JKM!!
I live in Streatham, South West London!! :happy2:
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I think I will be getting a Blueflame TBE too. :happy2: The ones I saw at Revo with the Revo logo etched in the twin tails looked really nice :wink:
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I actually know Rueben who owns Tuningwerkes. I was there today getting My APR Stage 1, WALK, AP Coilovers and my Forge Twintake. I've heard the APR zaust and that's what made me want it! the buil quality, desing and the sound is brilliant but, the price tag is bonkers :sad1:!
Tuningwerkes is my closest then AMD, The Phirm and then JKM!!
I live in Streatham, South West London!! :happy2:
Reuben is a great guy isn't he! He pretty much did most of the work to my car :smiley: :smiley:
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APR RSC is so different to the Miltek....alot of tech gone into it's development....mental sound at full chat lovely and quiet at motorway speeds.
I've had both Miltek and APR...both good but the APR is superbly made and sounds much nicer.
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APR ftw :happy2:
(with special shout to WhiteGTI...)
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If APR made the RSC exhaust for the S3 that is what I would have.
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If APR made the RSC exhaust for the S3 that is what I would have.
Yep - I tried them when it was first launched but they said they didn't have any plans.
As a side note the very well discounted Group Buy (-30% I think) with Awesome for Milltek is coming to an end but if you were quick you'd get in today I think.