MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: RedRobin on February 12, 2009, 08:55:55 pm
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I lost both my number plate and its mount while driving through the wilds of Wolverhampton. Hence providing me with the perfect excuse for ditching the mount and just sticking on the number plate. Like everyone else I much prefer the look of the GTI without a front plate but the good old UK has different laws about this than in the States. I reported my loss to the Police and was given a 'Get-Out-Of-Jail' piece of paper in case I was stopped. No time limit on it either but I prefer to maintain my good relationships with the Police and not to take the p!ss, so I wasn't going to continue like this for too long.
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^ Looks great without a plate ^
My VW dealer supplied me with a new plate and even suggested the 'carbon-style' option. I kept it in the boot for a few weeks and then felt that although no Police anywhere had questioned my missing front plate it was time to be a good boy and stick it on.
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The front of the GTI is curved and the sticky pads which the TTshop helped me out with were warned to be strictly immovable once any contact was made - But this same adhesive strength was going to be what keeps them on! (Unless perhaps if I ever visit Wolverhampton again). So I decided to make myself a template so I could position my new plate accurately.
I bought a length of plastic angle and sawed cuts in one side so it could bend : -
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^ Basically I was making a 'shelf' to position the number plate in line with the bottom of the nose mask.
To be able to position the plate centrally I marked both the plate, front and back, and the plastic 'shelf' : -
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To fit the angled lower grill I also marked and cut the uncut side of the plastic 'shelf' : -
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It was now time to stick the double-sided sticky pads to the back of the number plate : -
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The shelf was attached with masking tape and it was time to finish the job : -
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JKM very kindly allowed me to use their rolling-road as a ramp so I wasn't crawling all over the floor : -
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I never liked the fact that the oem mounted plate dropped below the mask and slightly in front of the lower honeycombe grill.
Personally I don't want to take any risks on the legality of my plates both in the UK and Europe.
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nice writeup Red :happy2:
my tip in cold weather is to get your loved ones hair drier out to warm the plate area , and let the plate sit on a radiator in the house for abit before applying to car :happy2:
as you say you only get one chance at alignment :scared:
[plates too big as well lol]
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Nice job :happy2:, a true perfectionist (maybe a likkle OCD) :laugh:
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Yep, I'm defo a bit of a perfectionist in what I attempt. It's the result of being a pro graphic designer and art director for a few decades.
It's just something which would be so easy to get wrong or wonky and with enormous problems trying to then fix.
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Nice one!
Maybe you could do one on car stickers? I've got a sticker for the rear view mirror (for the old site until I get one for this place) and need to position it properly (more so the dealers know where I visit).
Wanna do another walkthrough?
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Yes, can do but I'm about to watch movie "The Sweetest Thing" on Ch5 now....
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^^^^ I'd forgotten what a damn funny film that was :signLOL:
Oh and nice write up as ever Mr Red :happy2: Was also going to suggest the hairdryer method but Mr Smartypants beat me to it! :P :grin:
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nice guide, for the temperature prolem couldn't people just remove the grill ?
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Reassuring to know that I'm in good company with my OCD attention to detail... Perhaps something to do with the fact that I'm a designer too?
Good work Robin, is did something similar when I stuck on my current plates.
Out of interest, does your level of attention to detail extend to buying your plates from the same dealership that the car came from? :ashamed:
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nice guide, for the temperature problem couldn't people just remove the grill ?
....I don't understand "the temperature problem" - The plate was quite bendy and the sticky pads have super-strength instant contact adhesion.
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Reassuring to know that I'm in good company with my OCD attention to detail... Perhaps something to do with the fact that I'm a designer too?
Good work Robin, is did something similar when I stuck on my current plates.
Out of interest, does your level of attention to detail extend to buying your plates from the same dealership that the car came from? :ashamed:
....Yes, I'm sure that as designers we are hardwired into chasing perfection. Funny thing is though that I'm not fussed if my car's body panel gaps are uneven or my splitter gets chipped - Stuff like that.
Yes I got my plate from my dealership because I'd rather give them my business rather than some stranger. They look after me very well indeed (the plate was FOC). I think this was because I started off asking them if they could supply me an anti-theft self-destruct Wolverhampton-proof plate but they said it wouldn't have their name on it but they told me where I could get one. I said I'd have theirs instead and then when I went to pay they said don't worry about it. They know my car goes on show occasionally etc.
Either that or they feel sorry for the old git who is going through his second childhood driving fast cars!
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nice guide, for the temperature problem couldn't people just remove the grill ?
....I don't understand "the temperature problem" - The plate was quite bendy and the sticky pads have super-strength instant contact adhesion.
I think they were going along the lines of 'we don't all have JKM's workshop to work in' and some of us mere mortals have to do these kind of jobs on the drive in the cold/wet! :P :happy2:
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Ah! Now I understand - Sorry!
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Well it shows you that the search function really does its job! Great how-to Red :smiley: I was wondering about doin this too! I really dont like the plate mount thats on my car. Its not even black! Mine has a slight brown tint :sick:
Anyway i will deffo do this when i get new plates! I really itchin to get a private plate.
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Gosh! A bit of a surprise to see this thread revisited - Great if it helps someone - That's why we do it.
No problems with mine so many miles and months later.
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Thats good to hear mate :happy2: That shelf-jig you made was just great. Bit of time and effort and you get a great result 1st time :congrats: What do you think to Super-duper strong velcro?
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Velcro is more easily nickable and i'm not sure how it would weather etc. I don't have any direct experience of it so perhaps someone else might say.
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I've used Velcro and its fine for weathering. Used it for years and never had problems, that's with pressure washing at least once a week. And less is more with Velcro
and in terms of nicking number plates, the Velcro is very secure although, if someone wanted to steal my numberplates , I'd rather they take them and be gone. Rather they came off easily and didn't do any damage
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Good to know, Jay :happy2:
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Is the C/F Font not illegal thought it had to be plain Black?
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Is the C/F Font not illegal thought it had to be plain Black?
....It is black and it's totally legal and given to me FOC by my VW dealer when I lost my original.