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General => Random Chat => Topic started by: GTiBEER on October 31, 2010, 12:49:52 pm

Title: Speed trap detector
Post by: GTiBEER on October 31, 2010, 12:49:52 pm
Can any of you guys and girls recommend a good Radar speed trap detector?

I don't want to spend a fortune but I want one that uses radar tech not just pre installed maps which needs plugging into the computer every month.

I have seen those ads for parking sensors that scramble radar guns but they are illegal even though they are being sold as parkings assists. Bit of a grey legal area there I think, not worth getting into.

I think the ones that can detect mobile speed cams ate quite pricey but can you put a price on your lisence? I got caught doing over a 110mph a while ago but the courts mucked everything up so I got away scot free but now I am much more careful and considerate driver thanks to that massive scare!

Thanks
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: Golfgirl on October 31, 2010, 01:13:55 pm
I've got an Origin B2 and it's never let me down.  they're called Pogo now though: http://www.pogogps.com
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: RedRobin on October 31, 2010, 01:19:46 pm

I have seen those ads for parking sensors that scramble radar guns but they are illegal even though they are being sold as parkings assists. Bit of a grey legal area there I think, not worth getting into.


....Not so "grey" any more!:   http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/8077912/Speed-camera-jammer-banned.html
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: RedRobin on October 31, 2010, 01:23:59 pm
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I use a PogoAlert which relies on being updated via a PC (I use a friend's because my computers are Macs) but there is a Mac-friendly PogoAlert just out.

RoadAngel offer a self updating detector - SteveP has one.

Most systems have a detachable laser trap alert but it's too late when you hear it go off! Such alerts are illegal in some European countries but not in the UK.
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: vRStu on October 31, 2010, 01:37:07 pm
Radar and Laser detectors are pretty useless IMHO, they'll have got you long before you see them.

A garage door opener is the only fool proof way, other than not speeding of course.  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: Gti_Mad on October 31, 2010, 11:41:55 pm
Radar and Laser detectors are pretty useless IMHO, they'll have got you long before you see them.

A garage door opener is the only fool proof way, other than not speeding of course.  :evilgrin:


are they easy to retrofit stu ??
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: kevinm on November 01, 2010, 12:03:50 am
I have a valentine one. At the time i bough it (July 08) it was the best one on the market. If it beeps for laser you're caught but it gives anything up to 3/4 of a mile notice for radar. It has always given me plenty of notice for radar, even around bends and in built up areas.
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: Moschops on November 01, 2010, 12:36:53 am
I've got an Origin B2 and it's never let me down.  they're called Pogo now though: http://www.pogogps.com

Me to although I have the Pogo Drive which is a nice bit kit.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: Kinbin on November 01, 2010, 05:01:41 am

I have seen those ads for parking sensors that scramble radar guns but they are illegal even though they are being sold as parkings assists. Bit of a grey legal area there I think, not worth getting into.


....Not so "grey" any more!:   http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/8077912/Speed-camera-jammer-banned.html

He was probably installing one of these in the link, aka Laser Interceptor. They are able to package it together with the V1 (aka Valentine One). It is wickedly effective. Need 2 sensors in the front, and another 2 at the back. When sensor beeps, one needs to slow down, switch it off, and unplug it. It comes with quick release wire attachments .


http://www.laser-interceptorusa.com/
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: RedRobin on November 01, 2010, 08:39:36 am

I have seen those ads for parking sensors that scramble radar guns but they are illegal even though they are being sold as parkings assists. Bit of a grey legal area there I think, not worth getting into.


....Not so "grey" any more!:   http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/8077912/Speed-camera-jammer-banned.html

He was probably installing one of these in the link, aka Laser Interceptor. They are able to package it together with the V1 (aka Valentine One). It is wickedly effective. Need 2 sensors in the front, and another 2 at the back. When sensor beeps, one needs to slow down, switch it off, and unplug it. It comes with quick release wire attachments .

http://www.laser-interceptorusa.com/

...."If not shut down during driving the Laser Interceptor may cause interference to law enforcement laser speed detecting devices"

Am I missing something? What's the point of this particular feature if it's not used during driving? Causing interference to law enforcement of any kind is a serious offence in the eyes of a British court. The case as reported in The Telegraph will serve as a legal precedent for other cases.
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: gti265 on November 01, 2010, 11:13:46 am
i think as they are maketing it as a parking device if you dont turn it of when driving and you get prosicuted you have no come back on them, as they have sold it as a parking device,

also i have heard that in court you can get away with having one of these fitted if you can prove that it does work as a parking sensor or your garage door opener, and as this product works as a parking sensor you can prove it,

 (weather or not this will still work coz of all the hype about these products i dont no)

tom
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: GTIjames on November 01, 2010, 11:51:53 am
ive got the road angel pro-connected one which updates itself but rarely use it as i can't stand the constant beeping so open to offers if anyone is interested

those jammers look interesting but alot of cash and if you get caught using it then its money down the pan and most probably a ban..

im not sure what its like up and down the country but around my neck of the woods lately  I have hardly seen any cops or camera vans out on the roads  :pomppomp:  ive put it down to the budget cuts  :congrats:

Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: Hedge on November 01, 2010, 12:01:49 pm
I might be James. PM more info please.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: vRStu on November 01, 2010, 12:38:15 pm
I had a kit which was able to switch pretty much anything at home.  Mine was connected to an outside light which illuminated when I went onto the drive.

That overcomes the legitimacy of having it fitted to a car.

The second issue is the part where it is less than ideal to interfere with police radio transmissions.

The device I had catered for this by having a feature built in which would automatically 'pause' the transmission if another device was received.  Another useful function was that it would sound an audible warning in the car.  This might, under the right circumstances, cause you to reconsider your speed  :wink:

I'll see if I can find details.
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: vRStu on November 01, 2010, 12:52:36 pm
This is it -

http://www.speed-detectors.co.uk/catalog/target-lasertrack-lt450-complete-system-p-160.html

LT450 is the home/car kit.

I thought I'd look for a YouTube video and stumbled on this wireless solution to go with it.  Very interesting -

Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: Kinbin on November 01, 2010, 02:38:29 pm

I have seen those ads for parking sensors that scramble radar guns but they are illegal even though they are being sold as parkings assists. Bit of a grey legal area there I think, not worth getting into.


....Not so "grey" any more!:   http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/8077912/Speed-camera-jammer-banned.html

He was probably installing one of these in the link, aka Laser Interceptor. They are able to package it together with the V1 (aka Valentine One). It is wickedly effective. Need 2 sensors in the front, and another 2 at the back. When sensor beeps, one needs to slow down, switch it off, and unplug it. It comes with quick release wire attachments .

http://www.laser-interceptorusa.com/

...."If not shut down during driving the Laser Interceptor may cause interference to law enforcement laser speed detecting devices"

Am I missing something? What's the point of this particular feature if it's not used during driving? Causing interference to law enforcement of any kind is a serious offence in the eyes of a British court. The case as reported in The Telegraph will serve as a legal precedent for other cases.


RR, one would switch it off after the detector alarm sounds. By applying the brakes and have it disconnected promptly, the police will be able to detect the speed again at the reduced speed which ought to be within the limit.  One is "buying" a mere few seconds to slow down.
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: GTiBEER on November 02, 2010, 10:11:10 pm
I think the 'Jammer' is too hot to touch and will be seen as an instant ban in the laws eyes from now on. Not worth the risk trying to pretend that its for my non existent garage. Thanks Red Robin you cemented that one.

I like the idea of the Pogo and when i have a spare £250 i will probably invest in it.

Here is a free (iPhone) option that has mixed reviews http://www.trapster.com/iphone.php and I am yet to physically try it but looking at the map locally it has labelled all my Gatso's and traffic lights and school areas. It is primarily American but if enough people use it over here it is a great idea and a FREE option for iPhone users.

There are also other apps which i have yet to see the price of but here is the list http://www.iphoneness.com/iphone-apps/5-handy-speed-trap-apps-for-iphone/

 :fighting:

Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: GTiBEER on November 04, 2010, 02:37:52 pm
Actually scrap that I have downloaded this app for 59p and it already looks and feels more like the real thing.

http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/

It is £15.99 for a years subscription and runs well with the tom tom app at the same time.

Anybody else think this is a good idea or is it just me?
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: vRStu on November 04, 2010, 02:47:18 pm
It's obviously not a 'detector' it's an intelligent app that knows where the fixed cams are and uses GPS to warn you.

PGPSW have been at it for years now and have a good incentive to report unknown camera locations so the database is pretty good.

Your original brief was slightly different as in you wanted 'detection'.
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: GTiBEER on November 04, 2010, 02:49:26 pm
You are right Stu and after looking at some of the prices the cheaper options are becoming more appealing  :ashamed:
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: vRStu on November 04, 2010, 02:51:03 pm
Nothing wrong with it mate, it's a good solution I just don't want you to thing you have 'protection' when really all you have is a warning system.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: GTiBEER on November 04, 2010, 02:55:15 pm
For £16 its worth a trial until i can fork out for the real thing  :wink:
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: RedRobin on November 04, 2010, 03:04:44 pm

Nothing wrong with it mate, it's a good solution I just don't want you to think you have 'protection' when really all you have is a warning system.  :happy2:


....That's right. It's a bit like tax avoidance and tax evasion - One is legal and the other isn't. Speed trap 'protection' devices aren't legal.

I always thought that entrapment was never legal either but I guess laws are made to suit those who create them.
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: vRStu on November 04, 2010, 03:07:43 pm
Speed trap 'protection' isn't legal.

Of course it is Robin, simply don't speed and you're protected - legally  :signLOL:  :P
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: RedRobin on November 04, 2010, 03:15:01 pm
Speed trap 'protection' isn't legal.

Of course it is Robin, simply don't speed and you're protected - legally  :signLOL:  :P


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Speed trap protection devices aren't legal.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: stealthwolf on November 06, 2010, 06:10:25 pm
I loved PGPSW but wish we could use their database on the RNS510.
Title: Re: Speed trap detector
Post by: 182_blue on November 06, 2010, 06:17:29 pm
I loved PGPSW but wish we could use their database on the RNS510.
I think when people add Speed cam sites to the RNS ts the PGPSW data they use