MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: gobbleplease on November 16, 2010, 09:42:07 pm
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Has anyone got any idea if rubber valves can be used on monzas or will I need to purchase some new screw in metal valves from vw ?
Anyone got a part number or price by any chance?
Thanks Bryan
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It depends on the wheel matey. The 'Hollow' BBS require the metal valves, the other do not. :happy2:
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i have bbs monza 2's and have normal rubber valves
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i have bbs monza 2's and have normal rubber valves
X2 but my Monzas are made by Ronal.
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iirc the metal valves are around £12 a valve. The part Number is 1K0601361
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthewindinglane.co.uk%2Fimages%2Fmisc%2FvalvePic.JPG&hash=22ad9843a0fbc2019fef18faefcf4ce1dd3b908d)
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Ta guys !
How can I tell what kind of monzas I have ?
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Ta guys !
How can I tell what kind of monzas I have ?
What valves are in them at the minute?
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Not sure mate they are away getting reconditioned just now, the refurber phoned to tell me he never had any metal valves and asked me to get some, I phoned vw and told them to order me a set and they said they would need my chassis number as there were two differant types ???
So I'm a bit confused, the wheel man said they were themetal screw in type,
what do you think Nathan ?
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i have bbs monza 2's and have normal rubber valves
X2 but my Monzas are made by Ronal.
Well they arent the BBS hollow tech versions then :wink:
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Not sure mate they are away getting reconditioned just now, the refurber phoned to tell me he never had any metal valves and asked me to get some, I phoned vw and told them to order me a set and they said they would need my chassis number as there were two differant types ???
So I'm a bit confused, the wheel man said they were themetal screw in type,
what do you think Nathan ?
Well I doesn't sound like the wheel guy knows what he's dealing with. Did he take metal valves out? If so they are re-useable so I'm confused. Unless they are the Hollow BBS the normal rubber valves are the ones they need to fit! :happy2:
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Here's a question then monza 2 guru's
My Monza 2's are stamped as BBS's but they have rubber valves (and I'm sure it left the factory with rubber valves as it had the original tyres on the back till 4 months ago) & no ribbed lip like the metal valve monza's I've seen have. They are standard on my 07 golf from factory so are they bbS or Ronals....?!
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Here's a question then monza 2 guru's
My Monza 2's are stamped as BBS's but they have rubber valves (and I'm sure it left the factory with rubber valves as it had the original tyres on the back till 4 months ago) & no ribbed lip like the metal valve monza's I've seen have. They are standard on my 07 golf from factory so are they bbS or Ronals....?!
BBS made two different types, the 'normal' and the 'hollow' :happy2:
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thanks for the info
So mine are "normal" then....oh bother :sick:
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iirc the metal valves are around £12 a valve. The part Number is 1K0601361
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthewindinglane.co.uk%2Fimages%2Fmisc%2FvalvePic.JPG&hash=22ad9843a0fbc2019fef18faefcf4ce1dd3b908d)
If you end up requiring the ones like ^^^^^ then let me know. I'm sure I have a set in the shed that you could take of my hands for nominal fee.
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My local tyre fitters said that they could just fit rubber valves to them, is this dodgy ?
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iirc the metal valves are around £12 a valve. The part Number is 1K0601361
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthewindinglane.co.uk%2Fimages%2Fmisc%2FvalvePic.JPG&hash=22ad9843a0fbc2019fef18faefcf4ce1dd3b908d)
If you end up requiring the ones like ^^^^^ then let me know. I'm sure I have a set in the shed that you could take of my hands for nominal fee.
Boothy
If these are not wanted, then i'll take them off your hands; i have justed picked up a set of 17" Monza's as winter wheels and one of the valves is missing. :wink:
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My local tyre fitters said that they could just fit rubber valves to them, is this dodgy ?
When I visited my local tyre fitters they said they had nothing suitable and rang VW. VW told them that it had to be the genuine metal ones like pictured. Still doesn't mean its right though I suppose and at £50 for a set, not bloody cheap either!
iirc the metal valves are around £12 a valve. The part Number is 1K0601361
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fthewindinglane.co.uk%2Fimages%2Fmisc%2FvalvePic.JPG&hash=22ad9843a0fbc2019fef18faefcf4ce1dd3b908d)
If you end up requiring the ones like ^^^^^ then let me know. I'm sure I have a set in the shed that you could take of my hands for nominal fee.
Boothy
If these are not wanted, then i'll take them off your hands; i have justed picked up a set of 17" Monza's as winter wheels and one of the valves is missing. :wink:
I'll have to let Bryan have 1st refusal as I offered them to him first so only fair. If not though I'm willing to flog them to you as a set for a fair price :wink:
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Brian they can't be the hollow versions as there is no way a normal rubber valve would fit if they were.
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afaik the 17" rims didn't come with those metal valves...
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my 17" wheels have the metal monza valves :wink:
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my 17" wheels have the metal monza valves :wink:
Yeh you can get metal valves to replace standard rubber ones but the hollow BBS do need a specific valve that can only be bought from a dealer. :happy2:
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Boothy you have PM :happy2:
Cheers Nathan, i went to the refurber today and checked out the wheels they are the hollowtech you can actually see the hollow through the valve exit, like you said there is no way you could get a standard rubber valves through there,
ill hopefully get the valves soon and get my new stealth wheels on !
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I've replied to your PM mate. If you PM your email address I'll send you some photos in the morning. Let me know if the price ain't right too bud. I'm sure we can come to a mutual arrangment :happy2:
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my 17" wheels have the metal monza valves :wink:
Yeh you can get metal valves to replace standard rubber ones but the hollow BBS do need a specific valve that can only be bought from a dealer. :happy2:
I've just been to the tyre fitters to get some winter tyres put onto my spare set of Monza 2s (hollow BBS with metal valves). They reckon that rubber valves will be fine and actually took the tyre off and removed the metal valve and put a rubber valve in. The rubber valve fitted fine, but was longer than the metal one so stuck out a bit more. They said that it's purely cosmetic and it was my choice to get some VW metal valves or have the rubber ones. I'm at the dealers on Monday anyway for a service and MOT, so will ask them while I'm there.
Just rang another local VW dealer who gave me the following prices:
4 x £11.10 each + VAT = £52.17 total (but take 3 days to get)
Why do VW state that metal valves are needed on the early Monza 2s? Does anyone know if they really are needed?
Cheers!
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iirc the first monzas needed the specific metal valve but the design changed sometime later so that a rubber valve could be used. vw then sold the cars with rubber valves so it could have been a cost cutting measure.
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iirc the first monzas needed the specific metal valve but the design changed sometime later so that a rubber valve could be used. vw then sold the cars with rubber valves so it could have been a cost cutting measure.
Yes, but do the early ones have to have metal valves or are they OK to have rubber valves, even if they stick out a bit?
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iirc the first monzas needed the specific metal valve but the design changed sometime later so that a rubber valve could be used. vw then sold the cars with rubber valves so it could have been a cost cutting measure.
Yes, but do the early ones have to have metal valves or are they OK to have rubber valves, even if they stick out a bit?
From my experience the ones that need the specific VW metal valves will take only the specific valves and nothing else, nothing to do with aestethics they are just the only type that will physically fit. I replaced a Monza on my first GTI after an incident with a kerb and ended up with this type of wheel. I had a mobile kwik fit guy who was a mate of mine attempt to fit it and believe me if he could of got a valve in it (standard rubber or metal) then he would have as he'd already stripped the tyre off of the damaged wheel. :love:
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I have the metal valves on my 17" Monza's - I realise from the above that I dont HAVE to have this type of valve, but the last couple of tyre changes the fitters have told me they re-cored the metal valves - I take it this isn't possible with the monza 2 types either?
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Is the general consensus that if a rubber valve will fit in, it's OK to use one? Maybe then with something like a set of these to hide the fact that they're rubber?
Chrome Valve Stem Covers (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4-Chrome-Valve-Stem-Covers-20mm-Sleeve-and-Caps-TR413-/390256436221?pt=UK_Cars_parts_Vehicles_Wheels_tyres_trims_Valve_Caps_ET&hash=item5add18a3fd#ht_2673wt_907)
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Is the general consensus that if a rubber valve will fit in, it's OK to use one? Maybe then with something like a set of these to hide the fact that they're rubber?
Chrome Valve Stem Covers (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4-Chrome-Valve-Stem-Covers-20mm-Sleeve-and-Caps-TR413-/390256436221?pt=UK_Cars_parts_Vehicles_Wheels_tyres_trims_Valve_Caps_ET&hash=item5add18a3fd#ht_2673wt_907)
Any thoughts on using rubber valves as long as they'll fit? ....anybody? :confused:
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Is the general consensus that if a rubber valve will fit in, it's OK to use one? Maybe then with something like a set of these to hide the fact that they're rubber?
Chrome Valve Stem Covers (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4-Chrome-Valve-Stem-Covers-20mm-Sleeve-and-Caps-TR413-/390256436221?pt=UK_Cars_parts_Vehicles_Wheels_tyres_trims_Valve_Caps_ET&hash=item5add18a3fd#ht_2673wt_907)
Any thoughts on using rubber valves as long as they'll fit? ....anybody? :confused:
Yup no probs if they fit! :happy2: