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All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Technical Workshop => Topic started by: 182_blue on February 22, 2009, 02:42:06 pm

Title: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on February 22, 2009, 02:42:06 pm
Anyone got it ?, could do with this myself, wonder what updates are on it

http://cgi.ebay.de/VW-Navigations-DVD-Westeuropa-V4-RNS-510-RNS510_W0QQitemZ260364850286QQcmdZViewItemQQptZTechnik_Auto_Hi_Fi_Navigation_Einbau_Navigationssysteme?hash=item260364850286&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1229|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: SteveP on February 22, 2009, 07:14:27 pm
At that price I would think it's cheaper to buy it directly from the stealers over here  :confused:

I will give mine a call in the morning to see if they have had any cars in recently with the V4 disc  :happy2:

The latest Audi maps on there MMI system are much better than the VW's v3 one's, so I hope the v4 will bring some improvements. 
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on February 22, 2009, 08:27:45 pm
At that price I would think it's cheaper to buy it directly from the stealers over here  :confused:

I will give mine a call in the morning to see if they have had any cars in recently with the V4 disc  :happy2:

The latest Audi maps on there MMI system are much better than the VW's v3 one's, so I hope the v4 will bring some improvements. 

i would be interested to see what's different, also i wonder if we can keep the speed cameras on ?
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: JPC on February 23, 2009, 12:08:39 am
i reckon v4 will give us full post code search! fingers crossed
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on February 23, 2009, 12:34:25 am
Let's hope they update the maps as well... some of the road details are woefully out-of-date where new bypasses, round abouts, etc. have been built.
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: golfman on February 23, 2009, 06:49:19 am
And there's also a new Firmware 1100 for the RNS 510 Rev. A
With this firmware the RNS 510A gets the same features as the RNS 510B like bluetooth audio support or AV-Out!
My m8 @ vw has this disc so will be getting my firmware updated 8)
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on February 23, 2009, 09:37:50 am
Do you normally have to pay for the firmware upgrade and nav disc update?   

Seems a bit unfair if you already have an older version, and its a simple task of bunging in a disc to bring things up-to-date?
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: SteveP on February 23, 2009, 09:41:55 am
^^^ Yes each new disc is chargeable.

Previously the new versions for the older MFD2 DVD Navi where around £165 each.
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: JPC on February 23, 2009, 09:48:29 am
ouch...luckily ive got a brand new V2/B unit with the latest firmware. and ill be hoping to find the V4 maps on the "internet" somewhere! ;)
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on February 23, 2009, 09:57:17 am
How do I check the firmware version?

JPC - please give a shout if you find the maps online.
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: cmdrfire on February 23, 2009, 11:32:57 am
The V3 maps are online already and are quite good, with TMC enabled etc. I've got a "B" version RNS-510 - there don't seem to have been any updates for that as yet.
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on February 23, 2009, 11:49:15 am
How do I check the firmware version?

JPC - please give a shout if you find the maps online.
get in the car, don't put key in ignition, manually turn the unit on via the unit and immediatly press and and hold set up button for about 15 secs, this should get you into the hidden menu and here you will find map version an software etc etc, this works on my revision unit
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on February 23, 2009, 12:00:07 pm
Tried it... I just get a setup menu showing AM/FM/DAB....  perhaps I'm doing something wrong.
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on February 23, 2009, 12:37:30 pm
How new Is your unit ?
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: cmdrfire on February 23, 2009, 12:49:45 pm
Tried it... I just get a setup menu showing AM/FM/DAB....  perhaps I'm doing something wrong.

Newer A firmware (and all version B) don't allow you to do this. The setting needs to be enabled in VCDS.
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on February 23, 2009, 01:55:38 pm
My RNS 510unit has the new touch screen.  It also came with the V3 disc.  Car is only 3 months old.
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on February 23, 2009, 01:59:08 pm
Tried it... I just get a setup menu showing AM/FM/DAB....  perhaps I'm doing something wrong.

Newer A firmware (and all version B) don't allow you to do this. The setting needs to be enabled in VCDS.

yeh, which is why i asked how new it was, out of interest what do you adjust in VCDS now then ?
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on February 23, 2009, 01:59:55 pm
My RNS 510unit has the new touch screen.  It also came with the V3 disc.  Car is only 3 months old.

Looks like you will need VCDS then
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on February 23, 2009, 03:08:27 pm
Is VCDS the VAG-COM dongle thingy?
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: JPC on February 23, 2009, 03:34:27 pm
yep. thats right.
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on February 23, 2009, 05:16:25 pm
think i will stick to version 1020  :signLOL:
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: vRStu on February 23, 2009, 05:18:35 pm
There is an adaptation channel to modifiy with VCDS to enable the menus.
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on February 23, 2009, 05:30:12 pm
There is an adaptation channel to modifiy with VCDS to enable the menus.

ahh, so if i update to latest version i can still get the menu when i have VCDS it , what doe the update do ?, anything usefull
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: golfman on February 23, 2009, 09:56:42 pm
Hi guys i have just updated to the latest software 1100 and im afraid to say it wipes ure map and hdd,so i will have to reinstall map and all my saved music again :sad:
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on February 24, 2009, 09:54:55 am
oh dear...sorry to hear that!

So what are the changes/improvements?
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on February 24, 2009, 06:07:59 pm
Hi guys i have just updated to the latest software 1100 and im afraid to say it wipes ure map and hdd,so i will have to reinstall map and all my saved music again :sad:

where did you get the software
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: golfman on February 24, 2009, 08:47:40 pm
Hi guys i have just updated to the latest software 1100 and im afraid to say it wipes ure map and hdd,so i will have to reinstall map and all my saved music again :sad:

where did you get the software
All the vw dealers have the latest software disc,my m8 from vw upgraded mine :grin:
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on February 24, 2009, 09:14:08 pm
How about ripping the DVD and posting it somewhere for everyone to enjoy  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: JPC on February 24, 2009, 09:36:52 pm
ditto! ;)
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on February 25, 2009, 06:34:12 pm
x 3
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on February 25, 2009, 08:29:22 pm
Hi guys i have just updated to the latest software 1100 and im afraid to say it wipes ure map and hdd,so i will have to reinstall map and all my saved music again :sad:

anything changed ?
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on February 28, 2009, 08:20:26 pm
i got the new firmware but dare not install it lol
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: SteveP on February 28, 2009, 08:22:50 pm
^^^ Go on do it, it will be fine  :evilgrin:













Then I know if it's ok  :rolleye:
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on February 28, 2009, 08:26:18 pm
well, i was going to then i saw Tommy cupra had said some units had been bricked ? :confused:
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on March 01, 2009, 05:46:14 pm
tried the update i downloaded but got this error ?

' a swl disk is detected but it is unvalid because of clamp state. please switch clamp state to hour mode and re insert disk''
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on March 01, 2009, 07:38:59 pm
ignore last, i sorted it (just needed coming off 24 hours on clock)

oh and GULP

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fvv19%2F182_blue2%2FIMG_0325.jpg&hash=9d1b7c9c29aa3748846953c35749209eb238ace4)
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: JPC on March 01, 2009, 09:21:09 pm
is your version A or B shaun?
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on March 01, 2009, 10:16:30 pm
is your version A or B shaun?
it's a B now  :signLOL:
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: cmdrfire on March 02, 2009, 12:36:30 am
Did you upgrade the motherboard? That is the only way to make a Version A into a Version B, there is some hardware difference apparently.
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on March 02, 2009, 08:25:50 am
Did you upgrade the motherboard? That is the only way to make a Version A into a Version B, there is some hardware difference apparently.
Have you personal experience of this ?, some people say you need too, some say not, its now telling me its a B version though, doesnt bother me either way TBH
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on March 03, 2009, 01:28:49 pm
Woohhhoooo, Map version 4 loaded , lets hope it has some changes, just need do add speed cameras again  :happy2:
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on March 03, 2009, 05:12:17 pm
So, where is the V4 DVD?  I'd like to update my system as well, plz.........  :party:
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on March 03, 2009, 06:09:00 pm
So, where is the V4 DVD?  I'd like to update my system as well, plz.........  :party:

VW dealer ? :happy2:
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on March 03, 2009, 10:31:08 pm
Thanks... that one came to an abrupt end.  Ok, so what arethe changes/improvements - before I go and fork out for one...?
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on March 04, 2009, 06:46:43 am
Thanks... that one came to an abrupt end.  Ok, so what arethe changes/improvements - before I go and fork out for one...?


Not alot from what i can see, postcode is still the same too, im guessing there's some road changes there but not in my area
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on March 04, 2009, 09:50:02 am
if anyone wants the 1100 firmware update its here http://www.filefactory.com/file/af25he8/n/rns510fw1100_rar

please do consider the implications of upgrading, and do so at your own risk
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: JPC on March 04, 2009, 10:58:21 am
oh gutted to hear the post code is the same! is there anyway to create an audible warning for POIs btw? speed cameras etc?
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on March 04, 2009, 11:00:46 am
oh gutted to hear the post code is the same! is there anyway to create an audible warning for POIs btw? speed cameras etc?
there is no way at the moment that i hvae seen, im sure it could be done with custom software but nobody will go to that trouble TBH
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on March 04, 2009, 03:35:10 pm
182_blue - looks like your the resident expert here...  :happy2:

How do I check the current firmware version on my RNS 510 unit?  And, what changes are there with this newer 1100 version?
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on March 04, 2009, 04:51:15 pm
182_blue - looks like your the resident expert here...  :happy2:

How do I check the current firmware version on my RNS 510 unit?  And, what changes are there with this newer 1100 version?
well, depending what version your running you can check by opening the car, getting in, don't put key in ignition, start up the nav unit using the knob on the unit, then when VW splash screen starts up press and hold the set up button for about 15 secs, then you enter a hidden menu, here you will find your map version and HW number.

 certain versions wont allow this until programmed to be allowed to do so via Vag com (bear in mind updating to 1100 will necessitate the use of vag com (one time only though) to enter this hidden menu)

As i said doing this update could Brick your unit, so do so at your own risk

heres mine now

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fvv19%2F182_blue2%2FIMG_0330.jpg&hash=144bec32e2edc57489a0d42758b5279b52f7906e)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fvv19%2F182_blue2%2FIMG_0333.jpg&hash=98c414d775f3e2ac36fb9a0a78df9edde24f5f24)
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on March 19, 2009, 01:54:34 pm
182_blue - looks like your the resident expert here...  :happy2:

How do I check the current firmware version on my RNS 510 unit?  And, what changes are there with this newer 1100 version?
well, depending what version your running you can check by opening the car, getting in, don't put key in ignition, start up the nav unit using the knob on the unit, then when VW splash screen starts up press and hold the set up button for about 15 secs, then you enter a hidden menu, here you will find your map version and HW number.

 certain versions wont allow this until programmed to be allowed to do so via Vag com (bear in mind updating to 1100 will necessitate the use of vag com (one time only though) to enter this hidden menu)

As i said doing this update could Brick your unit, so do so at your own risk

heres mine now

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fvv19%2F182_blue2%2FIMG_0330.jpg&hash=144bec32e2edc57489a0d42758b5279b52f7906e)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fvv19%2F182_blue2%2FIMG_0333.jpg&hash=98c414d775f3e2ac36fb9a0a78df9edde24f5f24)

Ordered the V4 from VW.  Will this have the firmware update on it as well?

Apologies in advance...but how do I check my version number - and I don't have this VAG-COM thingy (what ever that is)?
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on March 19, 2009, 02:13:31 pm
i dont think the firmware comes with the map (im told not anyway), your dealer can do it for you though, as for firmware check the text you just quoted LOL


copied here for you
well, depending what version your running you can check by opening the car, getting in, don't put key in ignition, start up the nav unit using the knob on the unit, then when VW splash screen starts up press and hold the set up button for about 15 secs, then you enter a hidden menu, here you will find your map version and HW number.

 certain versions wont allow this until programmed to be allowed to do so via Vag com (bear in mind updating to 1100 will necessitate the use of vag com (one time only though) to enter this hidden menu)




182_blue - looks like your the resident expert here...  :happy2:

How do I check the current firmware version on my RNS 510 unit?  And, what changes are there with this newer 1100 version?
well, depending what version your running you can check by opening the car, getting in, don't put key in ignition, start up the nav unit using the knob on the unit, then when VW splash screen starts up press and hold the set up button for about 15 secs, then you enter a hidden menu, here you will find your map version and HW number.

 certain versions wont allow this until programmed to be allowed to do so via Vag com (bear in mind updating to 1100 will necessitate the use of vag com (one time only though) to enter this hidden menu)

As i said doing this update could Brick your unit, so do so at your own risk

heres mine now



Ordered the V4 from VW.  Will this have the firmware update on it as well?

Apologies in advance...but how do I check my version number - and I don't have this VAG-COM thingy (what ever that is)?
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on March 19, 2009, 02:13:59 pm
ps, you know how much the disc is dont you !!!!
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on March 19, 2009, 02:18:50 pm
ps, you know how much the disc is dont you !!!!

Just over 200 bucks... it's on order.  So, if I get this right I have to ask VW to do the firmware update separately?
Title: Re: V4 maps for RNS 510
Post by: 182_blue on March 19, 2009, 02:23:45 pm
ps, you know how much the disc is dont you !!!!

Just over 200 bucks... it's on order.  So, if I get this right I have to ask VW to do the firmware update separately?

yeh, if they will do it for you then fine, not sure if its chargable ?, just say you find it slow when you touch it and your mate has had an upgrade which solves this

ps, you dont need the upgrade for v4 map, it just makes the unit a bit more responsive