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Title: Steering off after Sportline fitting *sorted*
Post by: S800BRN on February 02, 2011, 05:20:05 pm
Alright all? Sooooo, got my Sportlines on yest and upon picking the car up I noticed straight away the steering was off.
With the wheel dead ahead the car veers off to the right quite strongly.
Find I've to drive with the wheel slightly left to keep straight.
So I got the alignment checked and turns out it was spot on. So I asked to get the wheel balancing checked. So that was done also. When I first pulled away the tyre pressure sensor symbol came on. So checked the PSI of all tires and they were fine too! Still pulling off to the right!!!
Any suggestions as to what it could be?
Cheers in advance
Scott
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: jon-tfsi on February 02, 2011, 06:04:27 pm
Exact same thing happened to me. Had all kinds of suggestions of what it might be.

Your best bet is to get the fault codes read. If sensor G269 appears it could be an expensive fix.

The outcome for me was this sensor had failed. Its an integral part of the steering rack an cannot be changed on its own. SEAT wanted just shy of £1000 to supply and fit a new rack.


Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: S800BRN on February 02, 2011, 06:21:19 pm
Exact same thing happened to me. Had all kinds of suggestions of what it might be.

Your best bet is to get the fault codes read. If sensor G269 appears it could be an expensive fix.

The outcome for me was this sensor had failed. Its an integral part of the steering rack an cannot be changed on its own. SEAT wanted just shy of £1000 to supply and fit a new rack.

Holy sh*t! Not what I wanted to hear. Car's only doon 23000 miles!
I'll give the place I bought the car from a shout tomorrow see what they reckon.
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: Andy on February 02, 2011, 06:30:33 pm
you can have the tracking correct but if the steering angle isn't set to zero it will make the steering wheel be off centre..when you drive down the road the steering is trying to pull straight...hope all that makes sense :signLOL:
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: jon-tfsi on February 02, 2011, 06:34:21 pm
Thats a massive coincidence this happened to you when getting sportlines fitted as well . . . . whats the chances of that? If you search you might find the thread.

The only other person i know of that this has happened to was when they crashed the car and the sensor failed then.

I could be wrong and i hope its a simpler fix but I have a feeling this is the same issue.

VW will want over £800 for a reconditioned unit on an exchange basis  :stupid:. I bought a used one for £150 and ACR (north east vag specialist) installed it for £125.

Good luck  :happy2:
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: S800BRN on February 02, 2011, 06:55:30 pm
Had a read of tour your previous post. You had a different warring in the dash didn't you?
I've not had anything in the dash other than the tyre pressure symbol.
Cluthching at straws but I'm just hoping it not the steering sensor !
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: jon-tfsi on February 02, 2011, 07:01:20 pm
I hope for your sake its not the steering sensor. Does the car pull quite strongly to one side? If you take your hands off the wheel when the cars moving does the steering veer to the side on its own? To full lock?
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: S800BRN on February 02, 2011, 07:10:10 pm
I hope for your sake its not the steering sensor. Does the car pull quite strongly to one side? If you take your hands off the wheel when the cars moving does the steering veer to the side on its own? To full lock?
Not really no - when the wheels dead straight it simply veers to the right not so much so that the steering wheel is turning by itself. If I have the wheel slightly left (to drive straight) I can take my hands of the wheel and it'll stay driving straight. :stupid:
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: jon-tfsi on February 02, 2011, 07:15:51 pm
Thats sounds more like what Maxitrol mentioned a few posts ago  :happy2:

The Technician who thought this was the problem with mine told me to "put some miles on it" and the problem will go away.

There is also a reset proceedure to follow that might help. I cant remember the sequence but it was quite simple to do.
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: S800BRN on February 02, 2011, 07:23:01 pm
you can have the tracking correct but if the steering angle isn't set to zero it will make the steering wheel be off centre..when you drive down the road the steering is trying to pull straight...hope all that makes sense :signLOL:
How do you go about settin the steering angle to zero, Maxitrol?
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: keano on February 02, 2011, 07:26:32 pm
Have you had a propper 4 wheel lazer alignment or just tracking?

Doubt very much it'll be the rack sensor.
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: Andy on February 02, 2011, 07:28:19 pm
you can have the tracking correct but if the steering angle isn't set to zero it will make the steering wheel be off centre..when you drive down the road the steering is trying to pull straight...hope all that makes sense :signLOL:
How do you go about settin the steering angle to zero, Maxitrol?
you need to plug it into vag com
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: 182_blue on February 02, 2011, 07:29:30 pm
you can have the tracking correct but if the steering angle isn't set to zero it will make the steering wheel be off centre..when you drive down the road the steering is trying to pull straight...hope all that makes sense :signLOL:
How do you go about settin the steering angle to zero, Maxitrol?
you need to plug it into vag com
This one ?
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/VW_Golf_%281K%29_Steering_Assist
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: S800BRN on February 02, 2011, 07:37:20 pm
Just used Kwik -Fit. They've 2 wheel laser. The garages where I live couldn't get their gauges under the arches!!
I'll give the garage a shout where I bought the car from tomorrow. He's Audi/ VW specialist so I'm assuming he'll have Vagcom!!!
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: keano on February 02, 2011, 07:42:42 pm
^^ That's your problem. Get it done properly  :happy2:

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,22820.msg304879.html#msg304879
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: S800BRN on February 02, 2011, 08:44:00 pm
^^ That's your problem. Get it done properly  :happy2:

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,22820.msg304879.html#msg304879
I'm looking around for 4 wheel laser around me right now! Surely Kwik-fit's effort would've made some difference you'd think?
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: TrickGTI on February 02, 2011, 08:48:10 pm
Have you had a propper 4 wheel lazer alignment or just tracking?

Doubt very much it'll be the rack sensor.

+1

This sensor can't make your steering wheel be out the only thing that can cause this is messing around with the suspension steering system. It will be a simple tracking issue I would just get all the alignment done  :happy2:

As for the sensor it may need re-setting but if everything is aligned alright then there should be no problem. Also if there was a problem with it you would have a steering wheel light on the dash...
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: TrickGTI on February 02, 2011, 08:50:29 pm
^^ That's your problem. Get it done properly  :happy2:

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,22820.msg304879.html#msg304879
I'm looking around for 4 wheel laser around me right now! Surely Kwik-fit's effort would've made some difference you'd think?


Depends who you had do it to wether they thought o it's close enough or did it properly...
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: keano on February 02, 2011, 08:56:31 pm
Don't QuikFit use a piece of string and a fillet steak to measure alignement?  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: S800BRN on February 02, 2011, 08:58:21 pm
Don't QuikFit use a piece of string and a fillet steak to measure alignement?  :evilgrin:
Be surprised if it was fillet!! :laugh:
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: apollo13 on February 02, 2011, 08:59:45 pm
I had exactly the same problem after having mine fitted, it was pulling badly to the left and steering wheel was off centre.

I had it booked in for a 4 wheel laser alignment knowing this would be the case.

I had it done at my local STS and it was spot on afterwards. The drive home on the motorway after having them fitted was very scary! the car was all over the place  :scared:

They told me the golf has 3 points of adjustment and at £30 an adjustment worse case £90.

They only had to adjust 2 points so obviously it cost me £60. Handled like a dream afterwards.
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: S800BRN on February 02, 2011, 11:03:53 pm
I had exactly the same problem after having mine fitted, it was pulling badly to the left and steering wheel was off centre.

I had it booked in for a 4 wheel laser alignment knowing this would be the case.

I had it done at my local STS and it was spot on afterwards. The drive home on the motorway after having them fitted was very scary! the car was all over the place  :scared:

They told me the golf has 3 points of adjustment and at £30 an adjustment worse case £90.

They only had to adjust 2 points so obviously it cost me £60. Handled like a dream afterwards.
Will be calling around tomorrow seein where's got proper 4 wheel alignment near me. Hope that fixes it!
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: apollo13 on February 02, 2011, 11:08:25 pm
It will mate, we had to use a hammer to get the front shocks out so not surprising it was all over the place  :scared:
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: S800BRN on February 03, 2011, 09:37:54 am
That's me booked in for 4 wheel laser alignment this afternoon.
Fingers crossed this fixes it! These is eating into my twintake fund!! :surprised:
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: S800BRN on February 03, 2011, 06:25:58 pm
So got my 4 wheel alignment done this afternoon.
Bearing in mind Kwik Fit had a go year and said my alignment was 'bang on'
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fzz105%2Fbreen78%2F62dfa018.jpg&hash=a824ff9a6aacc6f058df39f155eb14c687509950)
Got it all adjusted and feels much better now!
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: snapey on February 03, 2011, 06:30:25 pm
So got my 4 wheel alignment done this afternoon.
Bearing in mind Kwik Fit had a go year and said my alignment was 'bang on'
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fzz105%2Fbreen78%2F62dfa018.jpg&hash=a824ff9a6aacc6f058df39f155eb14c687509950)
Got it all adjusted and feels much better now!

I'd be taking that print out into Kwikfit and asking them how then can justify that its "bang on", get your money back dude  :happy2:
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: keano on February 03, 2011, 06:31:45 pm
Me too! ^^^

Glad it is all sorted now though mate  :happy2:
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting *sorted*
Post by: rich83 on February 03, 2011, 06:43:05 pm
Christ.... that was all over the place!  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting *sorted*
Post by: S800BRN on February 03, 2011, 06:47:23 pm
Glad it's sorted too. Can now get a chance to see how the Sportlines handle! :driver: I'm over the moon with the look of them.
Cheers for all the input, gents. :happy2:
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting *sorted*
Post by: 182_blue on February 03, 2011, 06:51:41 pm
Is the wheel now level ?
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting *sorted*
Post by: S800BRN on February 03, 2011, 07:06:59 pm
Is the wheel now level ?
TBH I'm not certain. It might pull ever so slightly to the left, now but can't really say 'cos the wind here today was nuts and was blowing the car everywhere! It's 100 times better than it was tho.
Might still do the steering angle reset aswell.
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: GTsport on February 03, 2011, 07:21:39 pm
So got my 4 wheel alignment done this afternoon.
Bearing in mind Kwik Fit had a go year and said my alignment was 'bang on'
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fzz105%2Fbreen78%2F62dfa018.jpg&hash=a824ff9a6aacc6f058df39f155eb14c687509950)
Got it all adjusted and feels much better now!

I'd be taking that print out into Kwikfit and asking them how then can justify that its "bang on", get your money back dude  :happy2:

I'd Definately take this to Kwikfit as snapey has said - they will refund you your money.

This is a prime example of kwikfits service!

Glad your sorted - was reading with interest as im looking at going down the sportline route

 :happy2:
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting *sorted*
Post by: PDT on February 03, 2011, 08:07:17 pm
Most kwikfit places are still using old fasioned fourtack systems, I used to use them at Ford and they are massively innacurate compared to modern professional computerised systems.
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting
Post by: bart on February 03, 2011, 08:19:40 pm
So got my 4 wheel alignment done this afternoon.
Bearing in mind Kwik Fit had a go year and said my alignment was 'bang on'
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fzz105%2Fbreen78%2F62dfa018.jpg&hash=a824ff9a6aacc6f058df39f155eb14c687509950)
Got it all adjusted and feels much better now!

mate were did you get this done at?

how much was it?
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting *sorted*
Post by: S800BRN on February 03, 2011, 11:08:13 pm
^^^^got it done at GT Tyres, Forres. Cost £68.
Title: Re: Steering off after Sportline fitting *sorted*
Post by: Andy on February 03, 2011, 11:29:20 pm
glad you got it sorted :smiley: