MK5 Golf GTI
General => Detailing => Topic started by: RedRobin on March 03, 2011, 11:10:02 am
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Hi all you shiney guys! I'm not often in this section of the site but just thought I'd share with you.
I have now updated this post, having learnt that the product is not new but repackaged with the addition of brushes. Never believe the gentlemen of the press!
Apart from Zaino and handwashing my alloys with the same Meg's NXT Shampoo I lambswool mitt the body with, I've never found a wheel cleaner that hasn't scared me away with some caveat (Latin for 'Cover your arse') about keeping the said cleaning solution well away from brake discs and calipers - A scary prospect... Until now.
My local freebie weekly newspaper has a motoring section and had quite a full write-up. What attracted me were the words:
• Autoglym Custom Wheel Cleaner kit includes acid-free wheel cleaner, safe for use on all wheel types, and two wheel brushes.
So, as my local auto bits shop stocks Autoglym products (and sometimes the gorgoeus hottie owner is there) I ventured forth with fifteen squid in my pocket (and a hard-on). She had only received stock a few days before and asked me to give her feedback (you bet!). My feedback for you gentlemen and one or two ladies is this:
Firstly check that your wheels are cold. Then, one wheel at a time, spray gun the white gunky stuff onto the alloy - It's preferable if wet because it spreads better but can be dry. With very open spoked alloys like my OZ Alleggerita's it will inevitably go on the disc and caliper but no problem. In fact it cleans the calipers very well. The most effective way of using the trigger spray gun is to blip it in short successive bursts. Rather than let it all trickle downwards under gravity I used the larger of the two supplied brushes to work it all around and then waited for literally a minute before hosing it all off with cold water. To get rid of water marks I suggest a soft cloth to dry it off. So each wheel takes about 5 minutes maximum and it's very very easy - Something which for the likes of me is essential!
As you'd expect, the cleaning solution apparently includes a special blend of biodegradable surfactants, solvents and alkalis to loosen even the most stubborn and engrained brake dust, leaving an immaculate finish. I found it does what it says on the tin. Written on the box is a Sodium Hydrochloride warning but Autoglym tell me that this is only because packaging regulations require it. All cleaning solutions need an active agent and they assure me that it is safe on wheels.
It can be used safely on Monza diamond-cut lacquered alloys BUT only provided that the seal is not broken. AG say that Ford offer the most durable wheels with this finish because the lacquer is thicker.
The instructions suggest using Autoglym's Wheel Sealant afterwards but it comes in an aerosol can and has those dreaded words warning against contact with discs and calipers. It does suggest it can be applied via an intermediate cloth but that doesn't appeal to me. Any wax or body polish can be used.
Overall I find it ideal and very effective. Voila mes amis :happy2:
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Great write up! Judging by your Sig this kit will be safe on the Monzas?
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Great write up! Judging by your Sig this kit will be safe on the Monzas?
....My Monza 18's are powdercoated as I got fed up with the white worm. I still have them though.
Killing The White Worm: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,726.0.html
I am confident that Autoglym's Custom Wheel Cleaner will be absolutely fine on diamond-cut lacqueured finishes. < Following VC's and Hedge's posts I'm not so sure now but am intending to phone Autoglym tomorrow to discuss. < AG say safe but only providing the lacquer seal isn't already broken.
I am now riding on OZ Alleggerita's:
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Just so peeps know it says "contains Sodium Hydrochloride" which is acid last time I did chemistry so be careful out there. :scared:
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Just so peeps know it says "contains Sodium Hydrochloride" which is acid last time I did chemistry so be careful out there. :scared:
...wasnt there a thread bashing this stuff a while ago? ie to stay clear of it as it wrecks finishes over time or if left in contact for too long? :popcornsoda:
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Just so peeps know it says "contains Sodium Hydrochloride" which is acid last time I did chemistry so be careful out there. :scared:
....Are you 100% sure that it's in sufficient quantity to be a problem unless you don't sufficiently hose off your wheels afterwards. There is also the CYA factor to consider. Autoglym claim that this product is safe for all wheel types.
This is a new product from Autoglym.
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Autoglym products are meant to be consumer friendly and consequently can't be too damaging or they'd get complaints and claims for damages.
The most effective part of that kit is the brush. Agitating dirt makes it much easier to lift off when rinsing.
Two questions RR:
- did you protect the wheels afterwards?
- why do the wheels have to be dry?
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Just so peeps know it says "contains Sodium Hydrochloride" which is acid last time I did chemistry so be careful out there. :scared:
....Are you 100% sure that it's in sufficient quantity to be a problem unless you don't sufficiently hose off your wheels afterwards. There is also the CYA factor to consider. Autoglym claim that this product is safe for all wheel types.
This is a new product from Autoglym.
Did I say that it was in sufficient quantity to be a problem? :confused:
That's not for me to decide but the buyer and user of the product should be aware they are spraying Sodium Hydrochloride onto their wheels. I it were my car with diamond cut wheels I would avoid.
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Just so peeps know it says "contains Sodium Hydrochloride" which is acid last time I did chemistry so be careful out there. :scared:
....Are you 100% sure that it's in sufficient quantity to be a problem unless you don't sufficiently hose off your wheels afterwards. There is also the CYA factor to consider. Autoglym claim that this product is safe for all wheel types.
This is a new product from Autoglym.
Did I say that it was in sufficient quantity to be a problem? :confused:
That's not for me to decide but the buyer and user of the product should be aware they are spraying Sodium Hydrochloride onto their wheels. I it were my car with diamond cut wheels I would avoid.
....No but I think you heavily implied it, although I realise that you may not have meant to.
Coupled with VC's post immediately afterwards, I got the strong impression that any Sodium Hydrochloride could be very dodgy and was so in people's past experience.
As far as diamond-cut wheels are concerned it seems unfortunately that most chemical solutions are a potential hazard! I think this needs answering by Autoglym.
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Autoglym products are meant to be consumer friendly and consequently can't be too damaging or they'd get complaints and claims for damages.
The most effective part of that kit is the brush. Agitating dirt makes it much easier to lift off when rinsing.
Two questions RR:
- did you protect the wheels afterwards?
- why do the wheels have to be dry?
....I agree and for now at least, I trust Autoglym's claim about being safe for use on all wheel types.
I was using the brush to agitate very soon after gunning the white gunk and noticed how grey it became as it lifted off the nasty black stuff.
- Did I protect the wheels afterwards? - Not so far.
- Why do the wheels have to be dry? - I assume you mean before application. Because IIRC it says so in the press release (I need to check this). I don't understand why or if it's at all important.
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Do I see it also says "Do not use on split rim wheels" near the caution bit?
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If you protect the rims with a sealant, you won't need to keep using the cleaner - hosepipe will be enough.
Don't see any reason why the wheels should be dry. Water isn't going to cause problems.
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I got the strong impression that any Sodium Hydrochloride could be very dodgy and was so in people's past experience.
Robin! please dont disregard hedge's comments. He has tested out lots of these products while trying to perfect his Sneak up behind you, chloroform across face, straight in boot of car technique. So he knows what he is talking about. :signLOL:
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Thanks for clearing that up TC. :signLOL:
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:signLOL: :signLOL:
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Sounds like TC's been a victim of Hedge's abduction escapades.
Was it worse than a vindaloo? :grin:
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Sounds like TC's been a victim of Hedge's abduction escapades.
Was it worse than a vindaloo? :grin:
Cant remember it, though i was walking like John wayne for a month. :grin:
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Sounds like TC's been a victim of Hedge's abduction escapades.
Was it worse than a vindaloo? :grin:
Cant remember it, though i was walking like John wayne for a month. :grin:
Hey that couldn't have been me. Doh! :ashamed:
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Do I see it also says "Do not use on split rim wheels" near the caution bit?
....Yes, you do. Crikey, can you read the box from my photo snap?
I guess it's because the cleaning solution could seep inbetween and be too difficult to ensure getting rinsed out with water.
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If you protect the rims with a sealant, you won't need to keep using the cleaner - hosepipe will be enough.
Don't see any reason why the wheels should be dry. Water isn't going to cause problems.
Autoglym will say this to stop the water on the wheel diluting the product, even in the slightest.
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If you protect the rims with a sealant, you won't need to keep using the cleaner - hosepipe will be enough.
Don't see any reason why the wheels should be dry. Water isn't going to cause problems.
Autoglym will say this to stop the water on the wheel diluting the product, even in the slightest.
....Aha, so speaks an expert and professional :drinking: [But now edited to say that AG say it's ok dry but better wet]
Methinks I'll be using some of my Zaino as a sealant.
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PMSL.... some very very funny comments on this thread. :notworthy:
Robin... are you sure this is a new product? im sure its been available for years :booty:
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I have now updated my original post after talking to Autoglym this morning.
• Some of you guys are right: It's not new! But the packaging (merely adding two brushes) is new.
• Note what I've now written about diamond-cut+lacquer alloys.
• The Sodding Hydrochlorithingy is just something which packaging regulations insist on being said.
• It's better applied to a wet wheel but is also effective on a dry alloy.
I hope this helps :happy2:
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Just so peeps know it says "contains Sodium Hydrochloride" which is acid last time I did chemistry so be careful out there. :scared:
....You were right, my fwend. Or at least, mostly, because all cleaning solutions need an active agent and the rest is pancaking regs. :happy2:
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^^^^
I have now updated my original post after talking to Autoglym this morning.
• Some of you guys are right: It's not new! But the packaging (merely adding two brushes) is new.
• Note what I've now written about diamond-cut+lacquer alloys.
• The Sodding Hydrochlorithingy is just something which packaging regulations insist on being said.
• It's better applied to a wet wheel but is also effective on a dry alloy.
I hope this helps :happy2:
Hey Robin... :booty:
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nice one RR :happy2:
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sometimes the gorgoeus hottie owner is there
Pics please.. :drool:
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^^^^
I have now updated my original post after talking to Autoglym this morning.
• Some of you guys are right: It's not new! But the packaging (merely adding two brushes) is new.
• Note what I've now written about diamond-cut+lacquer alloys.
• The Sodding Hydrochlorithingy is just something which packaging regulations insist on being said.
• It's better applied to a wet wheel but is also effective on a dry alloy.
I hope this helps :happy2:
Hey Robin... :booty:
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sometimes the gorgoeus hottie owner is there
Pics please.. :drool:
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^ She said she'd show me how to use the brush in the AG kit.
Coincidentally she has got the same hairstyle but is a natural brunette and she too has a nice mouth. She's in her mid to late 30s so too old for you! The rest I'll have to leave to your imagination :evilgrin:
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^^^^
:grin: So this is what goes on in the detailing section!
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:grin: So this is what goes on in the detailing section!
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Unfortunately, this section is usualy full of JPC's arse crack. :sick:
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sometimes the gorgoeus hottie owner is there
Pics please.. :drool:
^ She said she'd show me how to use the brush in the AG kit.
Coincidentally she has got the same hairstyle but is a natural brunette and she too has a nice mouth. She's in her mid to late 30s so too old for you! The rest I'll have to leave to your imagination :evilgrin:
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Not seeing her anyone............. :sad1:
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How you getting on with this stuff Robin?
I had the AG Technical Services guy up here last week and they demo their products on Dry wheels.
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How you getting on with this stuff Robin?
I had the AG Technical Services guy up here last week and they demo their products on Dry wheels.
....I've only used it once so far, Keith. Dry but was thinking of trying it on wet wheels next time. Did the AG guy comment about wet or dry?
I found it very easy and effective to use but I've never cleaned wheels with anything other than car body shampoo before, so have nothing to compare it to.
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On wet wheels it dilutes the product making it less effective, they demo'd the other wheel cleaner - clean wheels (the stronger cleaner)on alloys that were damaged already and that was used dry as well. The tech did say though that they offer different advice as to what the boffins state. The glass polish is another example he advised not to let it dry to avoid the white chalkiness flying about, and this works far better but it contradicts the bottle :grin:
I have to say though i use custom wheel cleaners trade version and I use it on wet wheels. :wink: