MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: laurent.d on March 28, 2011, 10:08:11 am
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I'm looking for my next car and thus I'm also thinking about available upgrade. :wink:
Except APR which company provide K04 Turbo upgrade for new 2.0 TSI engine.
Does RevoTechnik have any solution for it?
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I'm looking for my next car and thus I'm also thinking about available upgrade. :wink:
Except APR which company provide K04 Turbo upgrade for new 2.0 TSI engine.
Does RevoTechnik have any solution for it?
You can source all your own parts and get the revo stage 3 map to suit the k04 upgrade. Revo themselves only do the software.
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didnt think REVO had stage 3 software for the TSI. wasnt steve P looking into it?
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No revo stg3 software for a Tsi as far as I am aware, have asked for them to do something a few times now and always gone down the route of custom mapping instead as they have nothing available.
Or maybe use Revo and add an electronic adjustable boost controller?
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APR make one:
http://www.goapr.com/products/turbo_trans_20_tsi_k04.html (http://www.goapr.com/products/turbo_trans_20_tsi_k04.html)
AWE Tuning make one:
http://www.awe-tuning.com/products/vw/mk6-g-j-2010/2-0t/mk6-tsi-k04-turbo-kit.html (http://www.awe-tuning.com/products/vw/mk6-g-j-2010/2-0t/mk6-tsi-k04-turbo-kit.html)
ABT Sportline make one but ££££:
http://www.awe-tuning.com/products/vw/mk6-g-j-2010/2-0t/mk6-tsi-k04-turbo-kit.html (http://www.awe-tuning.com/products/vw/mk6-g-j-2010/2-0t/mk6-tsi-k04-turbo-kit.html)
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Some update
Revo told me they are thinking about it but can't tell when and if they wil launch it.
VWR is working on an alternative solution.
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We are In development of a Stage 3 Scirocco Tsi with Awe K04 kit. All i can say the car is a beast! I will post a few videos tomorrow.
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Source the bits from dealers then custom bespoke mapping session?
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Revo definitely have software for the K04 on a TSI. :smiley:
Hardware on the other hand is a different story. The APR kit keeps the DV in the turbo which requires machining. You could always go the traditional K04 route and have a DV at the front of the engine if that's what you wanted.
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I will post these days a few videos on a Scirocco TSI with AWE K04 kit, on Revo STG3.
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You got my PM then Tase?
Are you in the UK?
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I just sent you a e-mail.
No from Uk, we are from Romania. :drinking:
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Is it right that the 2.0 TSI engine can handle more power than the AXX etc?
A K04 upgrade on the mk5 GTI puts the engine on about the safe limits.
Would a TSI engine be able to cope with a K04 Hybrid with an aggressive map? :smiley:
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Is it right that the 2.0 TSI engine can handle more power than the AXX etc?
A K04 upgrade on the mk5 GTI puts the engine on about the safe limits.
Would a TSI engine be able to cope with a K04 Hybrid with an aggressive map? :smiley:
I can only go by experience here.
However I believe the AXX to be stronger than the BWA. I have a personal friend been driving around with an APR Stage 3 kit on his car. It's been fault free for almost 2 years now since It's been installed. travelled around the 40000km's already. that kit is making 245kw's at the front wheels so approx 380Hp.
The new APR K04 kit for the MK6/scirocco/EOS TSI engine makes a claimed 366hp. I see no reason to doubt claims. As my APR Stage 1 GTI (even when it was Stage 2, Never got to dyno it for Stage 2+) is on par to their claim
So in short I cannot see why a K04 Hybrid would have issue's running on the TSI engine.
I do recommend gathering sufficient information, before you decide what you want do.
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Hi guys, long time since my last post. Here are a few videos from the Scirocco Project.
Short video on 0-200 acceleration test.:driver:
4th gear acceleration
25-140 Km/h acceleration
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Revo have just mentioned the K04 kit for the TSI on their news page:
http://www.revotechnik.com/index.php?mod=show_news&id_nws=82 (http://www.revotechnik.com/index.php?mod=show_news&id_nws=82)
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no price etc as yet though
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Sorry to throw a spanner in the works, but just wanted to check if you are pushing the engine hard or just want the engine for occasional use? I only ask this as the tsi is a waste of time for track work this is from my experience from going through 2 turbos as the engine just isn't cutout for it. It suffers from oil starvation to the turbo and oil surge etc... On hard track work. It will probably be fine on the road as isn't under anywhere near the stress of cornering on track. Just something to bear in mind, before chasing numbers just think about what the car is being used for track or road for long term reliability. Hope this is of help, you will see more info on my candy white rocco build thread.
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Sorry to throw a spanner in the works, but just wanted to check if you are pushing the engine hard or just want the engine for occasional use? I only ask this as the tsi is a waste of time for track work this is from my experience from going through 2 turbos as the engine just isn't cutout for it. It suffers from oil starvation to the turbo and oil surge etc... On hard track work. It will probably be fine on the road as isn't under anywhere near the stress of cornering on track. Just something to bear in mind, before chasing numbers just think about what the car is being used for track or road for long term reliability. Hope this is of help, you will see more info on my candy white rocco build thread.
ya know the APR golf they have been successfully using for sometime is a 2.0 TSI, possible problem with your car matey?
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Which APR Golf? Not the R demo they are running in Milton Keynes as that's a TFSI. :confused:
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ya know the APR golf they have been successfully using for sometime is a 2.0 TSI, possible problem with your car matey?
Outright power isnt a limiting factor.
Its oil surge and starvation that the car suffers with when you are on track with sticky tyres and a good chassis setup. The potential cornering forces starve the turbo of its oil hence big plumes of white smoke and new turbos. The TFSI doesnt suffer with this as the sump/oil lines are better designed
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Google the apr motorsport mk6 tsi ya'll, been very sucessful for them
P.s. not the R golf, its only a TFSI :booty: