MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Carrera2RS on May 18, 2011, 07:33:26 pm
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Chaps, your views and opinions are very welcome
I am looking to replace my tryes on my Pirelli (close to the wear bars all round) I currently have original spec Pirelli Nero's 18 225/40's
The suspension is
Bilstein PSS10
TT alloy arms
WALK
Neuspeed ARB's 25F, 25R
the car is handling well and I was thinking about Pirelli's again, but they are expensive and I am wondering if they could be improved ?
My thoughts are :
1. Pirellis again
2. Vredenstein Ultra
3. Michelin PS2, or 3's
4. Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
5. Toyo T1R's
I liked PS2's on my old M3, and had T1R's and others on an M5 the T1R's were great for dry grip, okay for wet and very good for ride harshness, but didn't last.
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Michelin for me :happy2:
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me 2 :happy2:
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Michelin all the way for me.
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Chaps, your views and opinions are very welcome
I am looking to replace my tryes on my Pirelli (close to the wear bars all round) I currently have original spec Pirelli Nero's 18 225/40's
My thoughts are :
1. Pirellis again
2. Vredenstein Ultra
3. Michelin PS2, or 3's
4. Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
5. Toyo T1R's
I liked PS2's on my old M3, and had T1R's and others on an M5 the T1R's were great for dry grip, okay for wet and very good for ride harshness, but didn't last.
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Thanks, I did a search on tyres and got some old 2009 posts !
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PS3's for me too. Can't wait to change to them on my Ed30!
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Not cheap but these are the ones for you:
1. Michelin PSS (no PS3)
2. Conti SC 5P (attention: there's a SC5 without 'P' as well)
3. Pirelli P Zero (no Nero or Rosso)
4. Yokohama AD08 (the best on dry and still good enough on wet for daily use)
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Bruce, I like your thinking
Just done a load of reading, as my car is a Pirelli and I don't push on in the wet I'm thinking P Zero's all round. They seem to be right up there in the dry.
Guessing it will be over £500 a set fitted, perhaps £600. But moving from an e92 M3 this is seamingly cheap !
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Unfortunately the only way to find out which tyre are best 'in your opinion' is to try them. One persons favourite is anothers worst nightmare!
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Michelin 2s or 3s , the only way
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One more for the michellins here. I've got ps3 all round. Total control.
Costco must be due their promotion soon - buy 4 get (was it 20% off?)
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I had some P Zero's fitted to mine a couple of months ago. Very hard to find and cost £600 fitted.
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I fitted Yokohama AD08 to my Evo6 last year although it was a close call as I almost went with the AO48R which by the looks and reports are super sticky.
I really rate the AD08's for grip , unsure of wear rates and not overly worried as it doesnt rack up many miles each year . Had it from new in 99 and its on its 3rd set of tyres in 21k miles :grin:
Definitely thinking of putting the AD08 on the Golf as well but also looking at the Michelin PSS . A friend has the Conti's Contact 3's on his and he really rates those as a good all rounder.
A lot of it depends on personal preference ,driving style and mileage I think . I always go for outright dry drip first and wear rate last as my mileage is low , and I'm not one for hooning around in the wet so drive slower in those conditions anyway ( unless the Evo is out )
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I have always used Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetrics without any problems or issues.
But hey choice is always a good thing
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Michelin 2s or 3s , the only way
Scooba, Carrera has spent effort and time on improving the suspension.
The suspension is
Bilstein PSS10
TT alloy arms
WALK
Neuspeed ARB's 25F, 25R
He is running > - 2° camber and so I guess this car is performance oriented. ;)
It would be very compromising fitting second class tyres. My opinion:
Only the best dry grip rubber do fit these demands. The PS3 is a very good
tyre for daily use like Conti SC3/SC5, but to take advantage of camber and
suspension components I strongly recommend to go for one of the tyres I
have listed above.
ps:
the old PS2 would fit as well, but the new PSS would surely even better and
the PS2 has just discontinued
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I personally find the Vredestein tyres a but understeery, that's on an unmodified car though. Mind you, I've spent a lot of time recently driving my wife's new BMW and that thing doesn't know what understeer is!
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Just checked sizes on Michelin Polits super sports no 225/40 18 listed :sad1:
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Just checked sizes on Michelin Polits super sports no 225/40 18 listed :sad1:
I think they've literally been announced this week in that size...
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Do a phone call to Michelin !!
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Great I'll phone Michelin :happy2:
I have read heaps of reviews and think it's between the PSS and Pirello P Zero
Seems the Yoko will be too low on tyre wear. I am doing circa 15-20k per year at the moment.
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I've got PS3s and I'm not overly inpressed. Insult to the Pilot Sport brand, as far as I'm concerned. They're noisy and very squirrelly in colder temps. I will not be replacing them. I'm gonna go with the Conti 5Ps next time, as they get good reviews.
The PS3 actually replaced the Exalto SE2, not the PS2, which is why you can still buy the latter.
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I'm getting a price on the PSS, having looked it sits between the cup and PS2. I really liked the Cup+ and PS2.
I had cups before when they were fist intriduced and hated them, but they could have been too early. I also had some PZero Corsa's which I was not keen on given the grip vs wear.
The PS3 was a less performance oriented tyre. I am trying to find wear ratings for the PSS. I foudn PS2's on my E92M3 to be very good considering :happy2:
I need to make sure I don't go too radical with 20k per year and lots of low grip required motorway miles !
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It seems that the PSS are not yet available.
Plus the Pirelli P Zero are now out of stock, with pirelli unable to say when they will be available (Asian earthquake impact)
I then had a look at which exact P Zero Nero tyre were fitted as I am very happy with the grip, so I have a benchmark to look at grip and wear rates.....
I HAVE P ZERO's !! not Nero's or any other variant...... Non wonder my car grips well ! I then read an article reviewing the GTi Pirelli before they imported to the UK. They comment on the tyres being very good and suggest that all edition 30 owners should fit Pirelli P Zero's and improve their handling....
I finally locate a set :wink:
They are on their way to my local garage and I will fit as soon as I hit the wear bars (virtually there but don't want to waste good tryes now !). I suspect Michelin PSS will be better and other softer tyres but the car is now performing/handling extremely well so ....
Pirelli P Zero's it is :happy2:
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Thanks for all the help guys,
this is one of the best reads http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2011-Autobild-Max-Performance-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm for 225/40's
Unfortunately no PS2, or PSS or more recent Conti's. I also suspect the new GY F1 will be good
You'll not the Pirelli is 'only' 2nd but check out the Dry Grip and overall review, especially compared to PS3's
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:happy2:
No doubt the P Zero is one of the very best and close to PS2 and PSS in character.
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