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Title: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Hurdy on June 10, 2011, 04:17:54 pm
OK, couldn't get hold of a Polo GTI DSG to test drive locally , so arranged to have a test drive in a Skoda VRS DSG 1.4Tsi. at my doorstep (5mins away) Skoda dealer.

Engine spec is the same as the Polo and just about all the mechanicals are the same (maybe suspension a little different?)

So the tech specs are:-

180ps (178bhp) at 6200rpm
250nm (184lbft) between 2000 and 4500rpm
0-62mph = 7.3 seconds (Polo GTI quotes 6.9 to 60mph)
45.6mpg on the combined cycle (54.3mpg on the open road!)
Co2 emissions are 148g/km = £125 a year tax.

Price - List is £16260, but there is an offer on at the moment with VAT which knocks just over £1900 off the price, so call it £14,360 - before any negotiations!!

Quite a bargain if you don't have any badge snobbery urges deep down.

This is the first time I've even paid much attention to this car and I must say that in the flesh it doesn't look bad at all. the front windscreen is quite high, which gives a very good outlook once you are sat in it. Plastics are however a definite class down from the VW's I've been in, but not as nasty as some Seats I've been in.

Now to the interesting bit, without the driver sat in it this car weighs in at just  1168kg :surprised:

So stock it has a power to weight ratio of just over 152bhp/ton. Basically the same as the MKVI Golf GTI

Off the line the car is very sprightly, the supercharger is evident straight from the off and the surge is quite potent, not modded GTi fast, but very good indeed. I can see why Blade loves his Polo GTi with extra power. :happy2: On uphill stops the car will hold itself stationary for a few seconds after you release the brake pedal without creeping forwards or backwards, a definite improvement on the 6 speed DSG. The car handles nicely, and over the horribly pitted and potholed roads of Sheffield it was very reasonable without getting confused and crashy. The car idles nicely and there's no hint of the transfer of power duties between the supercharger and turbocharger that Mr Clarkson hinted at with the original Golf 1.4TSi. Power delivery is smooth and consistent, no turbo lag at all, throttle response is instant and creamy smooth. On the open road the VRs is stable at speed and although it does tend to lean into corners more than I'd like, it isn't anything that would put me off and nothing that a decent ARB or two couldn't resolve. Speed builds quickly up to around XXXmph and then the car gradually starts to lose its resolve. I'd guess a remap would also help in this area too.

Overall (and I never thought I'd say this!) I was mightily impressed with the Fabia VRS and the price is quite a bargain too.

When you consider the basic list price of the Polo GTi is £19,415 before negotiations, then you are talking £5k difference.

Would I buy one?........If I only had the money for one then yes, but I'd still probably knock on the VW door and have my wallet raided for the extra ££££'s.

On another note, optional extra's at Skoda are unfeasibly cheap compared to VW - for the same kit!!

Satnav equivalents for the VRs and GTi are £840 and £525....FOR THE SAME KIT!!!!!!





Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: MAT ED30 on June 10, 2011, 04:36:31 pm
Ok are you mad it's a ugly fecker  :sick: would get the polo no matter what even if it costs more I just could not look outside my window of my house and think wow  :drool: i want to go for a drive  :ashamed: it just does nothing for me in the looks area
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: vRS Carl on June 10, 2011, 04:47:18 pm
Now do see you why i went for the Octavia vRS over the Golf GTi. :smiley:

For the same spec car (bearing in mind that VW don't make a Golf GTi estate that im aware of) i would have paid nearly £10k more :surprised: :surprised:

IMHO VW are charging what they do purely because they know the Badge snobs out there will pay for it just to say "i have a VW" :stupid:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Hurdy on June 10, 2011, 04:48:11 pm
Ok are you mad it's a ugly fecker  :sick: would get the polo no matter what even if it costs more I just could not look outside my window of my house and think wow  :drool: i want to go for a drive  :ashamed: it just does nothing for me in the looks area

Don't worry Matt, I'm not getting one :grin:

Just needed to see what the engine was like.

I didn't think it looked that bad, but I agree it isn't good looking like the Polo GTI :happy2:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Hurdy on June 10, 2011, 04:49:48 pm
Now do see you why i went for the Octavia vRS over the Golf GTi. :smiley:

For the same spec car (bearing in mind that VW don't make a Golf GTi estate that im aware of) i would have paid nearly £10k more :surprised: :surprised:

Yep I do, and the Octavia IS a decent looking car too.......even as an estate :happy2:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Hedge on June 10, 2011, 04:51:07 pm
 :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: gazbutS3 on June 10, 2011, 04:51:54 pm
Now do see you why i went for the Octavia vRS over the Golf GTi. :smiley:

For the same spec car (bearing in mind that VW don't make a Golf GTi estate that im aware of) i would have paid nearly £10k more :surprised: :surprised:

Yep I do, and the Octavia IS a decent looking car too.......even as an estate :happy2:

^^^^^ I agree, and the Fabia's ok too at least it looks a little different to alot of the other euro box's^^^^^
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Hurdy on June 10, 2011, 04:54:16 pm
A few more interesting spec comparisons

VRS gets curtain airbags as standard, the GTi you pay £600 for.

Electric sunroof is £385 on the VRs and £815 on the GTI


How can VW charge more than double for a sunroof and £600 for a safety feature that is std on a bloody Skoda!!! :fighting:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: vRS Carl on June 10, 2011, 04:58:08 pm
I refer you to my comment above.

Badge Snobs   :laugh:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Hedge on June 10, 2011, 04:58:42 pm
I found myself in the same boat as Carl.

The Mk6 is a nice looking car but not 50% nicer so I went Czech again, he has the added space advantage of the estate but my hatch has a cavernous boot that no Golf GTI can match.

I am more than happy with the badge on the front and with a few choice additions I think it looks pretty sweet. :smiley:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
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Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Hurdy on June 10, 2011, 05:59:40 pm
LOL, I knew this would bring out the old Skoda price V's VW badge rivalry :laugh:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Hedge on June 10, 2011, 06:01:35 pm
LOL, I knew this would bring out the old Skoda price V's VW badge rivalry :laugh:

You started it.  :P
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: jhtrophy on June 10, 2011, 06:08:29 pm
 I am a big fan of the octy, great looking car, but I think the fabia is just horrible, sorry, I know the engine is great etc but the looks  :sick: and I'm not saying that every fabia driver is a div, but they are constantly trying to race? The older diesel model even more so. Rant over, buy a 200 and have done with it :P
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
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Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Gti_Mad on June 10, 2011, 06:49:59 pm
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

all day long  :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: RedRobin on June 10, 2011, 06:56:49 pm
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

all day long  :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:


....Aren't you going to ask whose daughters they are, Dawaine?  :evilgrin:

I've got a few more hot Skoda cutie pics but better post them in the VAG Babes thread.
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Gti_Mad on June 10, 2011, 06:58:25 pm
hahahaha na not this tym robin   :innocent: :innocent: :signLOL:

you should get ur daughter 2 do a shoot with ur car   :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Eddie-NL on June 10, 2011, 07:33:40 pm
I had a test drive in a VRS and it was a fun car. I still think I would buy a Polo over it just because the dash is nicer and you can spec it with fewer doors.
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: europameister on June 11, 2011, 12:58:00 am
They are good value but incredibly ugly!
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Hurdy on June 11, 2011, 01:17:01 am
Found this. :happy2:



I'd still take the Polo  :P

Also found the video below. Fast forward to 7'37" for the comparisons of lap times.

"only" 5 seconds between the Golf R and the Polo GTI, which isn't bad considering the Polo is £14k cheaper in base spec DSG forms. :surprised:

And I'd guess with £3k of mods on the polo you'd be just as fast.  :driver: :evilgrin:

Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Poverty on June 11, 2011, 01:23:39 am
bocanegra and the a1 over the vrs and polo for me!
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 11, 2011, 09:10:23 am
its a good little car and an absolute bargain.  Its got its gripes like the body roll and no midrange but its the same with all std cars and why we mod.

Configured a Polo up to my exact spec and its £21550.  First of thats horrific for a Polo, secondly i paid £14200 for my fabia to the same spec.  I look at people in the Polo and think mug :grin: the interior is better ill give it that, but not 6k better :surprised:

I also think the Polo looks to much like a golf.  At least the Fabia is different to the mainstream.  Theres more room in the fabia as well


heres mine

The golf Cart
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I am a big fan of the octy, great looking car, but I think the fabia is just horrible, sorry, I know the engine is great etc but the looks  :sick: and I'm not saying that every fabia driver is a div, but they are constantly trying to race? The older diesel model even more so. Rant over, buy a 200 and have done with it :P

for handling yes,but its got no midrange or go in it.  IF i could get this Fabia to handle maybe 90% as well as the 200, id be happy because its already substantially faster in the straight line.  With the remap its enough to really upset people.

And its party piece

If i spank someone they got beaten by a 1.4 Skoda
If i get spanked its only a skoda so its not a big deal

win win for me
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 11, 2011, 09:19:22 am
A few more interesting spec comparisons

VRS gets curtain airbags as standard, the GTi you pay £600 for.

Electric sunroof is £385 on the VRs and £815 on the GTI


How can VW charge more than double for a sunroof and £600 for a safety feature that is std on a bloody Skoda!!! :fighting:

But....

there are some flaws for instance

car mats are an option, underseat storage boxes an option, no rear interior light etc

amongst other things.  You can see where they have penny pinched to make it the bargain it is.

however comparing to the seat Ibiza i know there are loads of things they dont have on their cars that we do.  the multi function computer has digital oil temps and the abiltiy to adjust the % ratio of the speedo by plus or minus 5% which really opens up the tyre availability and winter tyres etc
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: chungster on June 11, 2011, 09:31:52 am
What size wheels are those??

And the stance is a bit shocking. The previous design is so much better!
Think it's the lack of side skirts like the previous Ibiza that makes them look bit weird
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 11, 2011, 09:58:16 am

Does need a tap with the lowering stick  :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 11, 2011, 07:32:40 pm
What size wheels are those??

17"


Does need a tap with the lowering stick  :popcornsoda:

id say it needs beating with the lowering stick
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Hurdy on June 12, 2011, 12:38:03 am
So,

I've been out for a test drive in the VW Polo GTI today and .............................loved it :love:

So much so I've ordered one :surprised:

Now, I know the Fabia is cheaper and after driving the Polo I know why. The interior quality and fit and finish is far superior to the Fabia. Typical example of what sticks in my mind are the interior door handles - The VRS had flimsy plastic handles that looked like they would be of the same quality as a plastic bottle, wheras the Polo GTI is literally the same quality as the Golf GTI. I know the publicity spiel says that the Fabia has all the same oily bits that the Polo does, but it simply cannot as the Polo simply handles better and rolls less than the Fabia. :confused:
I like the fact that it is lighter and has decent modding potential and looks the part. Downsides? well I guess they could have the RNS510 as a factory option, but I'll go aftermarket again as a result of their omission. Brakes were decent, but I know I'll have to look at something with more "bite" :evilgrin:

I'll have quite a few months to invstigate what to modify and gather some parts together.  Starting weight is 1219kg with a 90% full tank, so I'm sure I can get that down a little :driver:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Jussa on June 12, 2011, 12:58:45 am
Maybe a silly question, but are the Seat's (as in model not interior)  :signLOL: meant to be better quality build than the Skoda's?
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 12, 2011, 02:21:23 am
Now, I know the Fabia is cheaper and after driving the Polo I know why. The interior quality and fit and finish is far superior to the Fabia. Typical example of what sticks in my mind are the interior door handles - The VRS had flimsy plastic handles that looked like they would be of the same quality as a plastic bottle, wheras the Polo GTI is literally the same quality as the Golf GTI. I know the publicity spiel says that the Fabia has all the same oily bits that the Polo does, but it simply cannot as the Polo simply handles better and rolls less than the Fabia. :confused:

I wouldn't have said the difference was that marked but you can see where they have saved money, its still streets ahead of Renault and ford though, so im happy.  Ref the handling Ive driven both and 100% agree the polo handled better, especially with the damping control over rough roads. IMO that's irrelevant though as both of us will change the suspension, ARBs, brakes etc so then its a level playing field.

Both cars need alot of work.  I have been speaking to VWRacing about mods and they were in agreement that the chassis suffers pretty poor axle tramp and torque steer and traction issues once mapped,

Plenty of mods available or in development already though.  Im waiting for replies from Sam@VWR about pricing for their ARBs, although whiteline have a rear bar available already, and with any luck there will be engine mounts available very soon.  VWR believe the LSD is a little bit off at the moment, and i also spoke to Quaife regarding developing a LSD for the DSG7 and they didn't seem remotely interested as they dont see the market as being worthwhile for it as it has the XDS system already.

I'm going for mkiv R32 front brakes and golf rears as the brake upgrade so it stays oem but with much more braking ability.  I'm waiting for booking confirmation to have a custom intercooler and radiator made, and im sorted for forge intake.  

Not sure how far to take the power though as no ones really sure of the limits on the fuelling yet and with most of the Cupras having issues on SCN its a bit daunting.

Hurdy whats you aims for the Polo then?  Performance wise im after 200Hp/ton.  Other than that im just after cheap track days and running costs.  You'll be amazed at the economy once you've put a few miles on them even when your pelting it.  I reckon mine is a good 10mpg better in every scenario to what my Octavia was driven like for like.
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Hurdy on June 12, 2011, 02:36:01 am
I agree with all you've just mentioned Sy :happy2:

I'll be doing ALL the physical modifications before I even touch a remap this time around......

Brakes - I'll be looking at a lightweight style upgrade to keep the weight down. Hopefully I'll find something around the 300+mm 2 piece fronts with 4 pots and a very small increase in the rears. Maybe even wait and see what Audi put on the hot S1 or VW put on the PoloR.
Suspension - Looking at the B14 Bilstein coilovers, whiteline ARB's and engine mounts.
Exhaust - Blade's Milltek looks just right.
Intake - dunno yet, but something will go on!
Intercooler - maybe Forge.
Audio - I'll be going for an RNS510 most likely
Alloys - Most likely OZ Alleggerita's - drops 16kg off the rotational weight.
Battery - change for a Braille or RedTop one - Loses about 8kg.
Seats - Lightweight buckets and a retrim in Alcantara - Lose about 20kg.

So, only mild mods :evilgrin:



Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 12, 2011, 02:43:36 am
I agree with all you've just mentioned Sy :happy2:

I'll be doing ALL the physical modifications before I even touch a remap this time around......

Brakes - I'll be looking at a lightweight style upgrade to keep the weight down. Hopefully I'll find something around the 300+mm 2 piece fronts with 4 pots and a very small increase in the rears. Maybe even wait and see what Audi put on the hot S1 or VW put on the PoloR.
Suspension - Looking at the B14 Bilstein coilovers, whiteline ARB's and engine mounts.
Exhaust - Blade's Milltek looks just right.
Intake - dunno yet, but something will go on!
Intercooler - maybe Forge.
Audio - I'll be going for an RNS510 most likely
Alloys - Most likely OZ Alleggerita's - drops 16kg off the rotational weight.
Battery - change for a Braille or RedTop one - Loses about 8kg.
Seats - Lightweight buckets and a retrim in Alcantara - Lose about 20kg.

So, only mild mods :evilgrin:

That was my original plan, but it went out the window when i got asked to be the development mule by shark performance, so thought id accept the free map out of the goodness of my heart.  they decatted the OEM downpipe for me as well for only £60. So stage 1+ remap and decat for only £60.  bargain of the century.  Ive picked up a second OEM downpipe so i can swap for services etc plus the forge intake ive got for only £80 second hand.  The intercooler and radiator will be free as well.  This car seems destined to save me loads of money.

Have bilstein released suspension yet?  I thought it was only KW available.  Edit-Just seen the Polo r GTI listed on their site.  No vRS though, but it'll still fit :jumpmove:

I reckon someone will have a 1.4TSi in the very very low 13s or very high 12s in the next year.  You going with REVO again?

http://www.vagoc.co.uk/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=88 (http://www.vagoc.co.uk/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=88)
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Hurdy on June 12, 2011, 10:44:35 am
Yes, I probably will go Revo again.

All that equipment for very little money proves that it pays to be a pioneer :happy2:

I know there have been a few scare stories about the pistons cracking, but it looks like they were all using cheapskate fuel. For peace of mind I'll be using V-Power from the start. It will only be a matter of time before 1.4TSi forged pistons and rods are available too, then a little stage 3 work may be the order of the day :evilgrin:

Like the ED30 engine, I have seen decent potential in this car - I'll just stay away from the laughing gas this time  :rolleye:

I know the reviews say that the Renault Clio is better "out of the box", but where is the fun in that. I like a little project to tinker with and like the ED30 I'll savour each step along the way.
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: VRSerious on June 12, 2011, 12:47:24 pm
Skoda with a Skark map all the way  :happy2:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 12, 2011, 01:03:13 pm
not on this forum mate.  REVO is to this forum what shark is to briskoda.
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 12, 2011, 01:13:55 pm

Where are you based now mate? Is there as much benefit on remmaping the dsg as there is on the Golfs?
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 12, 2011, 01:16:39 pm

Where are you based now mate? Is there as much benefit on remmaping the dsg as there is on the Golfs?
still in Chatham upon Medway for another month then moving to Nottingham

No DSG maps available as of yet, i will get it done though if and when they do it
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Hedge on June 12, 2011, 01:31:07 pm
Skoda with a Skark map all the way  :happy2:

Who? Do you mean Shark?  :chicken:

There are other companies out there you know especially for a Skoda.  :wink:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 12, 2011, 01:35:59 pm

Where are you based now mate? Is there as much benefit on remmaping the dsg as there is on the Golfs?
still in Chatham upon Medway for another month then moving to Nottingham

No DSG maps available as of yet, i will get it done though if and when they do it

Chillwell is in my preferences but think im being shipped to Maidstone  :sick:  If its gotta be Uk would be better Chillwell or Ripon.  Goin to cripple me moving to Uk.
PM me requirements for CoW.  Will have to dig out my blue book. Only LCpl / A1 / B2

Wont be long for Dsg map I bet. 
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 12, 2011, 01:42:34 pm
no worries, PM sent.  your missus needs to get used to you working all hours for 18months though :grin:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: neg on June 12, 2011, 01:42:55 pm
Just a note, the latest 6 speed DSG now has hill hold.

Did you not think about the SEAT Ibiza Cupra or Boncenegra?  Same engine as the Polo/vRS etc ?  

I had a go with the twincharger engine recently as I've not been in a 1.4TSI since it was originally released in the MK5 Golf GT and I was mightly impressed as it seems you were too - in fact only last week I was having a look at how much Polo GTI's were going for  :laugh: (after seeing Blade's) Not many about thats for sure, the local VW dealer were saying they only sold a hand full - maybe it was the price putting people off

Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: TagnuT on June 12, 2011, 04:04:46 pm
Nice right up there John. Some interesting points made about options..

Come on you must have popped into the SEAT garage, as Gilders is even closer than the Skoda garage to you.   

What do you think of the A1? Just specced up a A1 1.4 TFSI Sportline. I stopped when it past £23,000  :stupid:

I must agree that the Polo looks the best inside and looks good from the front too.

Its just annoying that the VW group will a larger price an option if you buy a VW than if you bought a Skoda, especially when we know that they are exactly the same parts......
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Hurdy on June 12, 2011, 05:06:32 pm
Nice right up there John. Some interesting points made about options..

Come on you must have popped into the SEAT garage, as Gilders is even closer than the Skoda garage to you.   

What do you think of the A1? Just specced up a A1 1.4 TFSI Sportline. I stopped when it past £23,000  :stupid:

I must agree that the Polo looks the best inside and looks good from the front too.

Its just annoying that the VW group will a larger price an option if you buy a VW than if you bought a Skoda, especially when we know that they are exactly the same parts......


I didn't include the Seat or the A1 as they are both 3dr only. I have looked online at them and the A1 looks good if you only needed front doors. :happy2:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: TagnuT on June 12, 2011, 06:01:24 pm
Nice right up there John. Some interesting points made about options..

Come on you must have popped into the SEAT garage, as Gilders is even closer than the Skoda garage to you.   

What do you think of the A1? Just specced up a A1 1.4 TFSI Sportline. I stopped when it past £23,000  :stupid:

I must agree that the Polo looks the best inside and looks good from the front too.

Its just annoying that the VW group will a larger price an option if you buy a VW than if you bought a Skoda, especially when we know that they are exactly the same parts......


I didn't include the Seat or the A1 as they are both 3dr only. I have looked online at them and the A1 looks good if you only needed front doors. :happy2:

Forgot about that point  :ashamed:  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: MAT ED30 on June 12, 2011, 07:01:15 pm
What happened to getting something mad  :confused:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 12, 2011, 07:50:36 pm
his wife told  him she wanted a Polo

this happened
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.undertheiceberg.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2006%2F08%2FUnder%2520the%2520thumb.jpg&hash=96f2eab5133e33d733daa4af4e771aa03641ce20)

and that was that.  The Forumite hurdy of old wouldn't have got a 1.4
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 12, 2011, 08:03:02 pm

I heard Johns not allowed to modify the next car. . .  :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: vRS Carl on June 12, 2011, 08:06:31 pm
My wife said that to me about the new Octy.

Sat in the garage is:

ITG Intake
Eibach Front & Rear ARB's
S3 Cooler
Neuspeed TSi Discharge pipe
Neuspeed Intercooler Pipe

RNS510 should be here this week

I fitted some styling mods yesterday too :grin:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Hurdy on June 12, 2011, 09:08:43 pm
What happened to getting something mad  :confused:

Thought I might make this mad instead :laugh:

Matt, A few weeks ago I didn't even think I'd be able to drive again (or even walk normally!) and that made me think a little about other things apart from cars. I'll be enjoying other things as well as cars - like my wife, who was brilliant throughout the whole episode.  :love:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: MAT ED30 on June 12, 2011, 09:13:10 pm
I know mate I was just a little  :confused: you don't have to explain your self to us mate just do what makes you happy and have fun doing it  :smiley:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Hurdy on June 12, 2011, 09:30:16 pm
I know mate I was just a little  :confused: you don't have to explain your self to us mate just do what makes you happy and have fun doing it  :smiley:

No worries mate :happy2:

It will still get the "Hurdy" treatment for sure.

For starters I reckon there's an easy 70kg to come out of the 1219kg kerb weight.  :driver:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Poverty on June 12, 2011, 11:17:55 pm
Im also giving the whole wasting money on mods things a rest too. Summers here now so time to enjoy some other aspects of life that doesnt involve cars  :smiley:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 14, 2011, 06:29:43 pm
I know there have been a few scare stories about the pistons cracking, but it looks like they were all using cheapskate fuel. For peace of mind I'll be using V-Power from the start.

I was struck by the dreaded misfire today.  Jumped in the car and didnt give it a chance to warm up and shot straight off as i was in a hurry and it gave a good 4 misfires before settling down to normal running.  Thats with only ever using VPower and 1900 miles on the clock.  That said it might have just been the fact that the accelerator was already pressed as the engine was tuned on  :ashamed:.  dont normally do that and i wont again.

Hopefully it was my fault and not anything else.  We'll soon see if theres an issue at the JKM RR day on Sat
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: Snoopy on June 14, 2011, 10:01:40 pm
On uphill stops the car will hold itself stationary for a few seconds after you release the brake pedal without creeping forwards or backwards, a definite improvement on the 6 speed DSG.
Hill holds, been standard a few years on the 6 speed DSG in the mk6 Golfs, its also been standard since mid 2010 on the manuals.
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: candy turbo on June 14, 2011, 10:18:47 pm
i may have lost touch wiTh you guys but john (hurdy ) last i heard you was getting an RS3 ?????
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: em2evol on June 15, 2011, 12:22:24 pm
Skodas are such good value, considering they are basically just rebadged VWs. My dad has had Skodas since 2003. He got his last 59 plate Octavia brand new for just £14,000! Loads of stuff as standard as well... But like many of you say, I too am a badge snob and would rather a VW over a Skoda any day, despite the rip off factor... Sad isn't it!!   :grin:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: tony_danza on June 15, 2011, 12:26:19 pm
Isn't the Ibiza a contender too?
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: GTIjames on June 15, 2011, 06:04:04 pm


Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: gazbutS3 on June 15, 2011, 06:14:53 pm
very good, the passengers a bit of a whopper though isn't he :laugh:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: candy turbo on June 15, 2011, 07:37:46 pm
i dont think the vw badge is snobby any more , any one can afford a vw thse days
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: TagnuT on June 15, 2011, 07:39:05 pm




On a different note:- 

Looks like it was filmed at Croft Circuit. Mrs T bought a Ferrari track, at Croft, for my birthday the other year. Cracking, great circuit to drive around.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: _Nathan_ on June 16, 2011, 09:56:20 am
Was a mate of mine driving, car belongs to his wife and was a week old, he told her he'd run it in for her  :innocent:
Title: Re: Fabia VRS - test drive!
Post by: TagnuT on June 20, 2011, 08:53:06 pm
Was a mate of mine driving, car belongs to his wife and was a week old, he told her he'd run it in for her  :innocent:

"Yes, dear they all smoke like that..........."  :laugh: