MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: liver on June 17, 2011, 11:56:01 am
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(nearly 30 seconds faster than the Mk5 Astra VXR 'Nurburgring')
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Whats the fastest ED30 time?
Hurdy?? :driver:
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even if Hurdy did bet it, it took another 100hp+, coilovers big breaks intercooler, exhaust.......
that is hugely impressive. Imagine what it will do fully modifed :surprised:
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Great reputation them chassis eh.
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As we reported last week, Renaultsport’s newest progeny – the Mégane RS 265 Trophy – has broken the lap record set by the Megane R26.R around the Nürburgring, lowering it by just under 9 seconds from 8min 16.9 seconds to 8min 7.97 seconds.
Although it was only officially confirmed this morning, development cars have been lapping the 14.7 mile circuit even quicker in testing. We understand the car was fitted with the standard road car’s Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tyres on the Trophy’s newly designed 19″ wheels.
The Trophy comes fitted as standard with the Mégane 250′s Cup chassis, Recaro seats with yellow seatbelts and detailing, 19″ Speedline alloys in gloss black with red rim, standard Liquid Yellow i.d. metallic paint, ‘Trophy’ red decals on F1-style front blade and doors, LED daytime running lights, Renaultsport Monitor on-board performance tracking and an extra 15bhp (now 261bhp) and 20Nm of torque (now 360Nm).
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The critically acclaimed Cup chassis (stiffer springs, dampers and anti-roll bar and grooved brake discs), mechanical limited slip differential is complemented by Brembo brakes, as well as the innovative PerfoHub independent steering axis front suspension set-up, which virtually eliminates torque steer.
No doubt we will hear more from Renault during the next few hours and we await the now obligatory video evidence, but it’s worth bearing in mind that just 50 of the 500 cars being made are destined for the UK with a sticker price of £27,820 on-the-road, so now might be a good time to pop down and get friendly with your local dealer.
So full interior, no roll cage, no plastic windows, no semi slick tyres and still 9seconds faster :notworthy: :notworthy:
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That is ful lap, bridge to gantry that time would be 7 min 40 ish so it's 30 sec faster than johns lap, that is a mad time, is it the trophy?
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look above :grin:
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Oh yeah it is, you get a years free trackdays with car
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Oh yeah it is, you get a years free trackdays with car
id take the piss with that lol
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Lol it's only the rs days
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My fastest FULL timed lap was 8' 15" but I know I did some faster ones later in the day. The car was having sparkplug issues on the trackday.
Having said that a standard car on standard wheels doing 8'09" is phenomenal and I'd like to bet it was a professional race driver that managed it and it would have to be on a closed track to get a full lap time in too. :happy2:
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so what could it do with stage 2 map, inytercooler, coilovers, arbs, engine mounts, R888s and weight loss etc is what i want to know. Could end up worse lol
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I'd like to bet it was a professional race driver that managed it and it would have to be on a closed track to get a full lap time in too. :happy2:
Laurent Hurgon on a closed track :happy2:
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I'd like to bet it was a professional race driver that managed it and it would have to be on a closed track to get a full lap time in too. :happy2:
Laurent Hurgon on a closed track :happy2:
Thought so.
I'd like to bet he'd be faster in my old ED30 on the 'ring than me too :laugh: :grin: :driver:
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Yeah he would use the road and not the grass :signLOL:
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My fastest FULL timed lap was 8' 15" but I know I did some faster ones later in the day. The car was having sparkplug issues on the trackday.
Having said that a standard car on standard wheels doing 8'09" is phenomenal and I'd like to bet it was a professional race driver that managed it and it would have to be on a closed track to get a full lap time in too. :happy2:
Sorry John thought your time was b t g, so yeah your ed 30 would hammer it with racing driver :happy2:
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Mental time if it's simply just a 15bhp ECU tweak over the standard 250.. But I do feel there is more to it somewhere considering it's seen off both the TTRS and 1M.. :surprised:
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Mental time if it's simply just a 15bhp ECU tweak over the standard 250.. But I do feel there is more to it somewhere considering it's seen off both the TTRS and 1M.. :surprised:
you just dont like the fact some french tat has kicked an ugly 1 series arse :signLOL:
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Mental time if it's simply just a 15bhp ECU tweak over the standard 250.. But I do feel there is more to it somewhere considering it's seen off both the TTRS and 1M.. :surprised:
you just dont like the fact some french tat has kicked an ugly 1 series arse :signLOL:
Tat! 27k tat :signLOL: 1m would have been much more fun, Renaultsports selling point is lap times, and have been fastest in class for years, they always find 10 sec on the ring, r26 time is 830, r26r 820 now 265 is 810, let's see If they get into 7s :driver:
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give it a year and it will be 12k tat :signLOL:
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Only 50 been made, you looked at r26r prices :P
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Only 50 been made, you looked at r26r prices :P
yeah but not the same car :P no cage and has seats :P i would have it but not for 27k :scared: car prices at the mo are mad if you ask me
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give it a year and it will be 12k tat :signLOL:
Very good, also to add my wife is happy to drive a 12k ED30 but not a 12K(ok 12.5k if we are splitting hairs :signLOL:) R26R!
Only joking I will be honest though, that is a lot of money. I absolutely love Clio 197's and I don't mind the 200 either but in a kind of Grey colour I saw at the renault day at Silverstone last year.
Not a massive fan of the Megane if I am honest.
I would buy a cheap 197 though and strip if for track days.
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If i were in the market for a new Medium size hot hatch id have the meganne over all others. build quality and interior seem way better than the previous model
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Good time but for me its quite an odd looking car, especially the sides at the back !
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id say bvetween that and the civic type R they are by far the best two looking hot hatches on the market followed very very closely by the scirocco.
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I think they should have made it look a bit more like the Megane Trophy.
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Very impressive times, but how fast a racing driver can get a car around a closed track has never been a factor for me when buying a car.
I buy cars based on fun and build quality and I hate to admit it but image does count a little, no matter how good it is most people wouldnt think it was anything other than a boy racers wet dream :sad1:
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You cant knock it, even at 27,000 none of the other manufactures can get near it for similar money. Ok VW are not trying but the others are. Mighty impressive i say. :congrats:
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the ford boys tried and failed to match the R26R, and blamed the R888s. well this one has managed it without R888s and is still 40hp less.
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i wish custom code did re maps for renaults , mine would be there tomorrow !!!! , stage 1 coming to my RS250 soon :happy2:
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You cant knock it, even at 27,000 none of the other manufactures can get near it for similar money. Ok VW are not trying but the others are. Mighty impressive i say. :congrats:
Who on earth pays list for a Renault!!
Bargain weapons.
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Mightly fast car but I think it looks horrible :sick: Why do they have to paint them all vile colours that will look dated in a few years? I can imagine a conversation in a pub starting "Did you know my car is the fastest car around the ring in 8mins?" by some saddo trying to chat up a girl :P
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that laptime is unachievable on non track tyres.....
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that laptime is unachievable on non track tyres.....
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Hard evidence appears to disagree with you Poverty :signLOL:
There's plenty of amateurs sticking in sub-8 B-G times in bog stock cars during busy TF. See the tube.
A pro driver with an empty track and a shade more power = doddle.
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that laptime is unachievable on non track tyres.....
renault must be telling porky pies ! :confused:
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Bought the wrong car Poverty :signLOL:
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Bought the wrong car Poverty :signLOL:
Yeah a hairdressers car :signLOL: :popcornsoda:
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So a non stripped megane sport on road tyres is quicker that a track focused, stripped out megane sport on track tyres. Yeahhhhh comeon the new one is good but not that good.
Wheres the hard evidence
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Bought the wrong car Poverty :signLOL:
supercar slayer
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It's still a T_T :signLOL:
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I'm sure video evidence will be soon available with Steve Sutcliffe envolved no doubt..
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So a non stripped megane sport on road tyres is quicker that a track focused, stripped out megane sport on track tyres. Yeahhhhh comeon the new one is good but not that good.
Wheres the hard evidence
It's called evolution.
Do you seriously think they'd make such a claim without evidence, the kind of claim that's going to be scrutinised in minute detail by everyone in the car industry looking for any reason to discredit it??
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I love the fact you cant get over it's done it and beat your car stock :rolleye: it's been done simple no tricks it's just been done simple
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So a non stripped megane sport on road tyres is quicker that a track focused, stripped out megane sport on track tyres. Yeahhhhh comeon the new one is good but not that good.
Wheres the hard evidence
It's called evolution.
Do you seriously think they'd make such a claim without evidence, the kind of claim that's going to be scrutinised in minute detail by everyone in the car industry looking for any reason to discredit it??
You mean like GTR?
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I love the fact you cant get over it's done it and beat your car stock :rolleye: it's been done simple no tricks it's just been done simple
Why are you so obessed with my car :signLOL:
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I don't :P I just don't see the point of thinking your car can't be beat by a stock hot hatch. Oh it's not the car it's just how you word things :smiley: I like your car lots being honest.
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your car got spanked by a 2.0 hatch back :grin: thought these TTRS's were fast must be all the understeer everyone seems to complain of :booty:
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the RS megane is a focused track car , the steering and suspension set up is brilliant only car ive driven better is an areial atom , its not frightenly fast but the drive makes up for this
most standard RS250 s are making 260 - 270 on the rollers so the 265 trophy is probably on the conservative side too :driver:
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most standard RS250 s are making 260 - 270 on the rollers so the 265 trophy is probably on the conservative side too :driver:
was that on Superchips rollers? dont buy it to be honest. i reckon its just generous rollers,
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This thread will go to rat sh*t if you start talking about dynos. The only figures that matter are driving ones and this car was not to shabby around the ring. :happy2:
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As td has said lots doing mad times in stock cars, Renault put a lot and time and effort into the ring times, maybe others don't, but their doors don't fall off :signLOL: you buy what you buy, build, image and comfort or a car that for the money will give you the best driving pleasure with 4 seats and cheapish running costs, as for the haters coming up with stupid things like tyres, get a grip.
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I remember the first (or was it second) Forum trip. There was a old Golf/jetta travelling rather quickly, belching smoke.
It lapped quicker than any of the forum cars.
Reason, the chap was local, and he knew the track. T'was only a Std 90 Hp diesel IIRC. Knowledge allowed him to carry straight speed into the corners.
The last trip Steve P lapped fairly fast in a 1.6 Suzuki swift........... Corners a plenty, if you can get round them quickly, I figure you can lap fairly quickly.
I have noticed the TTRS doth under-steer at times, but it does me.
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I remember the first (or was it second) Forum trip. There was a old Golf/jetta travelling rather quickly, belching smoke.
It lapped quicker than any of the forum cars.
Reason, the chap was local, and he knew the track. T'was only a Std 90 Hp diesel IIRC. Knowledge allowed him to carry straight speed into the corners.
The last trip Steve P lapped fairly fast in a 1.6 Suzuki swift........... Corners a plenty, if you can get round them quickly, I figure you can lap fairly quickly.
I have noticed the TTRS doth under-steer at times, but it does me.
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ps the TTRS is still a great A-B car. :wink: and way way outshines my driving talents. It is a very quick car, but not satisfyingly quick if you know what i mean.
Quick is ZX-7R, R1, 748 SPS now they are satisfyingly quick! and yes I can ride a quick bike quickly. They are all bikes i have owned, tested a GSXR 1000, and it was too quick and too much for me. I only drive/ride as fast as my guardian angel can fly............
although the TTRS can carry hair straighteners.......................Not that I need any!
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QD :notworthy:
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Quick is ZX-7R, R1, 748 SPS now they are satisfyingly quick! and yes I can ride a quick bike quickly. They are all bikes i have owned, tested a GSXR 1000, and it was too quick and too much for me. I only drive/ride as fast as my guardian angel can fly..............
I 100% agree, anyone that wants to feel speed and acceleration needs to go on a bike
Matt
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Quick is ZX-7R, R1, 748 SPS now they are satisfyingly quick! and yes I can ride a quick bike quickly. They are all bikes i have owned, tested a GSXR 1000, and it was too quick and too much for me. I only drive/ride as fast as my guardian angel can fly..............
I 100% agree, anyone that wants to feel speed and acceleration followed by death needs to go on a bike
Matt
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I don't :P I just don't see the point of thinking your car can't be beat by a stock hot hatch. Oh it's not the car it's just how you word things :smiley: I like your car lots being honest.
This has nothing to do with it beating my car around the track I dont know why you mentioned it to be honest? I know what my car is capable of as proven by members on VAGOC who are amateur racers, one of whom just so happens to rally his and happens to beat ALL the GT3 porkas, lamborghini superlegarri etc to name a few.
What im contesting that simply physics would suggest that without a considerable power hike or weight reduction the new megane rs trophy shouldnt be that much quicker than the previous track focused version regardless of "evolution" without the cars suspension having been optimised for this attempt and perhaps some other elements such as power output and tyres. I mean just look at the ferrari saga of the lengths they go to, to manipulate results and also the nissan GTR ring time that no independant magazine has managed to come close to matching....
We will soon find out if this car is as good as this PR ploy by renault would suggest once in independant hands. Until then I wouldnt put too much faith in a manufacturers claim, believe it or not they dont always play by the rules.
P.S
I still dont know why or how the ttrs got brought into this
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Mental time if it's simply just a 15bhp ECU tweak over the standard 250.. But I do feel there is more to it somewhere considering it's seen off both the TTRS and 1M.. :surprised:
Ahhh so this is how its started.
I wouldnt be corncerned about that at all mate. What we have here is renault coming to the track with aim to beat a certain time.
The TTRS and 1M however are "sandbagged" by the company to fit in with the pricing hierachy. Sportauto who wouldnt have had the resources like renault did, yet still managed a 8.09 in the ttrs. The rs4 did a 7.58 with audi yet the TTRS and 1M are quicker than the rs4 around many tracks.
Anyway we both know our fettled cars will see off any non big turbo megane with ease, fwd is for pre-schoolers. :laugh: :P
I like to kick the ass end out on my TT, and the understeer is now gone thanks to supersports.
Oh yeah btw my mate who buys and sells cars the one with the 135i had a c63 AMG the other day and we had some plays. Both the TT and the bright blue porka where quicker. Theres also a tubi'd gallardo which is also not as quick as the two of us! Looks and sounds the business though, its flames even just driving around town lol
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This thread Gets better, a megane can't go round a track that fast but my supercar slaying tt on the other hand! Let me tell you what it can do, lol
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This thread Gets better, a megane can't go round a track that fast but my supercar slaying tt on the other hand! Let me tell you what it can do, lol
:laugh: :laugh: :popcornsoda:
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It's just a shame you have to spend so much money to get the TTRS's handling to the level it should be fresh out the factory.
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It's just a shame you have to spend so much money to get the TTRS's handling to the level it should be fresh out the factory.
What a set of ARB's :signLOL:
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This thread Gets better, a megane can't go round a track that fast but my supercar slaying tt on the other hand! Let me tell you what it can do, lol
Ok maybe it can with some assistance from renault engineers, but if I bought one, gave it to horstvonsaurma of sportauto and he took it round the ring do you think he will even get within 5 secs of this time? Maybe 10 secs?
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It's just a shame you have to spend so much money to get the TTRS's handling to the level it should be fresh out the factory.
i must admit Pov is right, a set of Arb's sorts the understeer.
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It's just a shame you have to spend so much money to get the TTRS's handling to the level it should be fresh out the factory.
i must admit Pov is right, a set of Arb's sorts the understeer.
The weird thing is since fitting the supersport tyres which where designed alongside porsche to help rid high performance cars of understeer, has managed to do just that. The car grips in, I can apply the power and the thing just holds the line. So much grip its mental!
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This thread Gets better, a megane can't go round a track that fast but my supercar slaying tt on the other hand! Let me tell you what it can do, lol
Ok maybe it can with some assistance from renault engineers, but if I bought one, gave it to horstvonsaurma of sportauto and he took it round the ring do you think he will even get within 5 secs of this time? Maybe 10 secs?
Yeah, I do a 9 min full lap, do you think a race driver with a better car on a closed circuit can't go 50 sec faster than me :stupid: get over it
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In much the same way as the MKV was massively better than the MKIV chassis, the RS250 is over the R26.R.
The problem with the R26.R was the shell was essentially made of jelly (compared to the RS250, it's still better than most in its class of the time), so although it had fantastic underpinnings, it was compromised.
VW increased stiffness by something stupid like 60% iirc over the MKIV with new laser welding and build techniques. The Megane is the same, it's amazing the difference a stiff shell makes on a car, which is why race cars are seam welded.
I don't doubt for a second that Renault played with the geo etc to maximise their chances, but there won't have been anything different on the car that you won't find on yours off the shelf and it's nothing you can't get done down your local geo shop for £100.
Horst von Saurma got the RS250 around in 8.29. More power, which will make a massive difference on the long drag up Kesselchen, different tyres (Bridgestone vs MPS2) and a geo tweak? I'd wager he'd get the Trophy within 10 seconds.
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Oh yeah btw my mate who buys and sells cars the one with the 135i had a c63 AMG the other day and we had some plays. Both the TT and the bright blue porka where quicker. Theres also a tubi'd gallardo which is also not as quick as the two of us! Looks and sounds the business though, its flames even just driving around town lol
What a crock of s***.
Oh no, wait. I've got a video of me passing a TTRS like it was going backwards at Oulton - so therefore my Clio was faster than a Gallardo too :P
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There's only one way to sort this out.....
Get the forum to buy a Megane Trophy and get Poverty's TTRS and then give them to the Stig's northern cousin to go around the 'ring and compare.....
Some say his fingers are made from pure chip butty fat and that his eyes glow down northern coalmines...
All we know is that it's not the Stig, but his northern cousin.....Hurdy :signLOL: :driver:
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This thread Gets better, a megane can't go round a track that fast but my supercar slaying tt on the other hand! Let me tell you what it can do, lol
Ok maybe it can with some assistance from renault engineers, but if I bought one, gave it to horstvonsaurma of sportauto and he took it round the ring do you think he will even get within 5 secs of this time? Maybe 10 secs?
Yeah, I do a 9 min full lap, do you think a race driver with a better car on a closed circuit can't go 50 sec faster than me :stupid: get over it
Erm how exactly did you manage to do a full lap wi without hiring thetrack?
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I love this my car Is better than a French car thing :signLOL: did you buy the wrong car pov :popcornsoda: you did but you need to argue and state your car Is the best and fastest thing on the road and can beat a turbo set up lambo :rolleye: you best contact top gear and evo mag and let them know.
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Oh yeah btw my mate who buys and sells cars the one with the 135i had a c63 AMG the other day and we had some plays. Both the TT and the bright blue porka where quicker. Theres also a tubi'd gallardo which is also not as quick as the two of us! Looks and sounds the business though, its flames even just driving around town lol
What a crock of s***.
Oh no, wait. I've got a video of me passing a TTRS like it was going backwards at Oulton - so therefore my Clio was faster than a Gallardo too :P
Are you on facebook,? Add me, I will add you into outr car group and you can ask my mate with the gallardo himself whether my tt ad my mates Porsche turbo is quicker. He honestly doesn't care, as he's got a Evo which makes me look like I'm trying.
And mat it's a TUBI exhaust lambo, not a turbo ya muppet loool
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You either do a track day or like me add 30 sec to b t g time
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Gallardo is 340 bhp per tonne tt rs 235 bhP per tonne so you would need quite alot of power increase to be faster mate
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Tut tut pov I got that wrong but admit your racing on public roads :popcornsoda: your not a racing driver so stop acting like one just due to you being a member of vag oc :laugh: you need bringing back down to earth hard if you ask me. Get yourself down to boots in hair section and have fun :smiley:
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Must admit to feeling uneasy with the talk of beating this and that on this thread. :scared:
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Tut tut pov I got that wrong but admit your racing on public roads :popcornsoda: your not a racing driver so stop acting like one just due to you being a member of vag oc :laugh: you need bringing back down to earth hard if you ask me. Get yourself down to boots in hair section and have fun :smiley:
Lol you always get filunny when ma TTRS or I am involved in a convo. If Tony does take up my offer to add me onto facebook he will see that me and my mates often go to the pod, and have done trackdays. I don't know where you are getting the whole racing on public roads from. I have also done vmax days.
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To be honest me too QD
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out the wrapper megane trophy £27k , TT RS with mods £40k + and the megane is faster round a track , FACT
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out the wrapper megane trophy £27k , TT RS with mods £40k + and the megane is faster round a track , FACT
Do you honestly believe this loool if I posted this over on vagoc they would laugh at you. Deluded.
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out the wrapper megane trophy £27k , TT RS with mods £40k + and the megane is faster round a track , FACT
By Renault... Would like to see an independent test done between the 2 and see what the results from that would be. But that's never going to happen..
What will be interesting to see is what time the Trophy will do when tested independently. I'm not taking anything away from Renault at all, as I know what weapons they are on track and round the twisties.. I wouldn't take one on, I know that.. Would I take one over mine or a TTRS though? Errrr, no!
JHTrophy hit the nail square on the head with this quote earlier..
As td has said lots doing mad times in stock cars, Renault put a lot and time and effort into the ring times, maybe others don't, but their doors don't fall off :signLOL: you buy what you buy, build, image and comfort or a car that for the money will give you the best driving pleasure with 4 seats and cheapish running costs..
As for modding yours Ian.. Your best bet is RS Tuning or even (dare I say it) Superchips, going by the Meganesport.net guys are choosing. Both are giving over 300bhp too, which would be a right weapon on track. Just don't time it and mention it on here, otherwise they'll be another 6+ page thread kicking off.. :signLOL:
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If the stig was to take both around the Ring on a closed track my money would be on the TTrs. But that isnt fwd so is completely irrelevent :rolleye:
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If the stig was to take both around the Ring on a closed track my money would be on the TTrs. But that isnt fwd so is completely irrelevent :rolleye:
I was a bit bemused at arguing over 2 different cars?
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short back and sides sir? a little something for the weekend?
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Nice car QD :drool: not sure about povs :laugh:
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Is it time to get the penis ruler out?
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Yeah its the my 50k car got beat by a 27k hot hot hatch debate and I am not a happy boy
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Poverty, you don't have to prove anything to me chap, I know the cars are fast and I believe you. I was just making a joke around the fact it's the difference in drivers, rather than cars in most instances - only 1 person lapping the 2 cars is any measure of their ability and difference in times.
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HAs this been posted yet or not?
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Enjoyed watching that :driver:
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Unless I'm mistaken that isn't an 8'08" lap at all. More like an 8'18" :confused:
He dribbled out of the pitlane at 12" in and went back in at 8'30"
He went passed his mate at 5" in and shook his hand in the air at 8'25"
He set off at 2" and let off the throttle at 8'22"
None of these make 8'08" :confused:
Cheating froggies :P
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out the wrapper megane trophy £27k , TT RS with mods £40k + and the megane is faster round a track , FACT
Do you honestly believe this loool if I posted this over on vagoc they would laugh at you. Deluded.
you should nt take things so serious mate , we all fight our corner , just some more than others
i would take a drive in a new RS250 though you just might be suprised :drinking:
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out the wrapper megane trophy £27k , TT RS with mods £40k + and the megane is faster round a track , FACT
By Renault... Would like to see an independent test done between the 2 and see what the results from that would be. But that's never going to happen..
What will be interesting to see is what time the Trophy will do when tested independently. I'm not taking anything away from Renault at all, as I know what weapons they are on track and round the twisties.. I wouldn't take one on, I know that.. Would I take one over mine or a TTRS though? Errrr, no!
JHTrophy hit the nail square on the head with this quote earlier..
As td has said lots doing mad times in stock cars, Renault put a lot and time and effort into the ring times, maybe others don't, but their doors don't fall off :signLOL: you buy what you buy, build, image and comfort or a car that for the money will give you the best driving pleasure with 4 seats and cheapish running costs..
As for modding yours Ian.. Your best bet is RS Tuning or even (dare I say it) Superchips, going by the Meganesport.net guys are choosing. Both are giving over 300bhp too, which would be a right weapon on track. Just don't time it and mention it on here, otherwise they'll be another 6+ page thread kicking off.. :signLOL:
i think RS tuning is the way ill go superchips have been having a few niggles , going scorpion for a change over milltek too :happy2:
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out the wrapper megane trophy £27k , TT RS with mods £40k + and the megane is faster round a track , FACT
Do you honestly believe this loool if I posted this over on vagoc they would laugh at you. Deluded.
you should nt take things so serious mate , we all fight our corner , just some more than others
i would take a drive in a new RS250 though you just might be suprised :drinking:
Did that 9 months ago :happy2:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fvv43%2Fpoverty_k1%2Fk1megane-1.jpg&hash=d9d1749d07200c7b06a833fd234f71907c445f40)
I just find it amusing, that all this time the TTRS tuners have been modding the car to beat 911 turbo S pdks, ferrari 458's and GTR's when all along its the megane RS250 they should be worrying about :signLOL:
A member on VAGOC has done a 7.39 BTG, should be able to knock another 10 secs off that time with a factory driver who hasnt got the worry of spanking his own car round the track in the back of his mind.
Its a cool vid with how hard the renault driver is pushing, a near perfect lap.
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Got a link to that lap video?? That's a serious time, epic balls!
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Your talking modded ttrs not stock v stock now :confused: I am 100% sure tuned ttrs would spank a meg easy but all that's been said is stock v stock meg beat it and that's it :smiley:
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Your talking modded ttrs not stock v stock now :confused: I am 100% sure tuned ttrs would spank a meg easy but all that's been said is stock v stock meg beat it and that's it :smiley:
Says the guy thats driven neither to to the guy thats driven both :grin:
There must have been something wrong with my mates megane sport, because it couldnt keep up with a stock TTRS, never mind now. We have never thought to question it though as non of our mates with tuned FWD cars can keep up with this lot as pictured. Obviously we had better book his megane into renault to get looked at?
2600 4wd bhp in one pic :driver:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fvv43%2Fpoverty_k1%2FteamT-1.jpg&hash=90021948de21cffc561fff1d832d1523ba2aa466)
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Got a link to that lap video?? That's a serious time, epic balls!
Will have a look for ya, another member did it in 7.45 on 20's :grin:
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(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fvv43%2Fpoverty_k1%2FteamT-1.jpg&hash=90021948de21cffc561fff1d832d1523ba2aa466)
Bluewater shopping centre?? Plenty of Hair Salons there if i recall :evilgrin:
sorry abit off topic...
Carry on Matt and Pov :laugh:
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Carry on Matt and Pov :laugh:
Seriously? I'd rather they stopped before his thread gets any gayer!
Poverty, ever heard the phrase "easy bait"?
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Carry on Matt and Pov :laugh:
Seriously? I'd rather they stopped before his thread gets any gayer!
Poverty, ever heard the phrase "easy bait"?
Im a master fisher mate :happy2:
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Carry on Matt and Pov :laugh:
Seriously? I'd rather they stopped before his thread gets any gayer!
Poverty, ever heard the phrase "easy bait"?
Im a master fister mate :happy2:
Fixed it for you. :wink:
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Carry on Matt and Pov :laugh:
Seriously? I'd rather they stopped before his thread gets any gayer!
Poverty, ever heard the phrase "easy bait"?
Im a master fister mate :happy2:
Fixed it for you. :wink:
If thats the sorta thing your into :grin:
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Quandry for you all.
Buy 2010 3k miles RS Megane, or a 3 year old Ed30? similar price.......... Both cracking cars.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2909863.htm (http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2909863.htm)
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2893171.htm (http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2893171.htm)
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Depends what you want to use it for. if you doing lots of tracking then id get the megane, but for everything else the ed30.
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There's a reasonable chance the Ed30 will do another 3 years but in the Megane maybe not. :rolleye:
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Fair points.
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My choice would be based on looks (superficial I know), and I simply can't stomach the Megane.
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Unless I'm mistaken that isn't an 8'08" lap at all. More like an 8'18" :confused:
He dribbled out of the pitlane at 12" in and went back in at 8'30"
He went passed his mate at 5" in and shook his hand in the air at 8'25"
He set off at 2" and let off the throttle at 8'22"
None of these make 8'08" :confused:
Cheating froggies :P
Yes this is a 8''08" and there no cheating. And I don't say that because I'm French.
But a full lap at the ring as every full lap time doesn't take into account ''T13'' the straight line along the F1 Track ant the pit lane.
So the start point is at 12'' at the exit of the pit and the finish is at 8'20'' at the finish line juste after the last corner. So every lap time skip about 6''.
That said keep in mind that between a Mégane RS Pack Cup driven in 8'29'' by Horst VON SAURNA and a Mégane RS Trophy driven in 8'08'' by a professionnal Renault test Laurent HURGON there just a few différences: some Bridgestone RE 050A +15Hp and +20Nm.
Plus I'm pretty sure that Renault choose a ''nominal'' or very well build car.
So the time is IMO more about VON SAURNA real life lap time vs HUGON marketing lap record.
A stock TTRS did 8'09'' (Sport Auto, Von Saurna?), a TTS 8'29'' (Sport Auto, Von Saurna?), a Scirocco R did a 8'30'' (Hans Stuck) without revo knukle front suspension and LSD.
That said the Mégane is indeed a fast car. But build quality doesn't match and far from it a VAG car.
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There's only one way to sort this out.....
Get the forum to buy a Megane Trophy and get Poverty's TTRS and then give them to the Stig's northern cousin to go around the 'ring and compare.....
Some say his fingers are made from pure chip butty fat and that his eyes glow down northern coalmines...
All we know is that it's not the Stig, but his northern cousin.....Hurdy :signLOL: :driver:
Like it :happy2: :laugh: :happy2:
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http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=23788
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The pistonheads forum discussion about this is hilarious :signLOL:
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:signLOL: I know it me :laugh: all good banter :wink:
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I know a guy who regularly does 7:45-7:50 BtG in a standard Megane, they are quick cars.
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A member on VAGOC has done a 7.39 BTG, should be able to knock another 10 secs off that time with a factory driver
Allowing 25 seconds difference between BtG and full lap that'd be around a 7:55 full lap, assume that isn't a standard car though?
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I may have to go and have a test drive!
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All the articles have mentioned the car having extra sticky tyres, Bridgestone RE050A.
But most people and magazine reviews don't rate the Bridgestones. (Didn't they fit just Conti Sport 3s to the Clio RS?) So why did they fit these tyres then?
"Renault Sport has chosen the UHP Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tyre" (http://www.bridgestone.co.uk/press/press-releases/2011/renault-sport-chooses-the-bridgestone-potenza-re050a-for-megane-rs-trophy)
"What's particularly impressive about the time is that, despite the fact that the latest Megane Trophy is a limited edition, it is not a stripped-out hardcore special like the R26.R was, but not all that much more than a Renaulsport Megane with a tad more power and some sticky tyres (15 extra hp and 15lb ft extra, to be precise)"... (Pistonheads)