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Title: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on July 01, 2011, 08:23:45 pm

Saw a couple of decent ones in VW Parts section today  :grin:

Any reviews, recomendations??

 :drinking:
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: 182_blue on July 01, 2011, 08:39:17 pm
What age/ size ?
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on July 01, 2011, 08:41:20 pm

Not due till November so Newborn upwards  :happy2:

Thanks
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: vRStu on July 01, 2011, 10:41:43 pm
Something like the Maxi Cosi one for the first 9 months ish.  Go for the ISOFIX base too  :happy2:

We've just bought two Recaro Young Sport ones which are VAG approved.

http://www.recaro-seats.co.uk/child-seats/young-sport.php
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on July 01, 2011, 11:16:05 pm
Something like the Maxi Cosi one for the first 9 months ish.  Go for the ISOFIX base too  :happy2:

We've just bought two Recaro Young Sport ones which are VAG approved.

http://www.recaro-seats.co.uk/child-seats/young-sport.php

Looked at that one.  Love it!  :happy2:

Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: vRStu on July 01, 2011, 11:19:19 pm
The first one is the killer tbh.  You'll do £80 - £100 on a seat, probably another £25-£30 on adaptors for the trolley and then £90 ish on the ISOFIX base and it'll last a massive 9 months or so!!

£125 for the Recaro should last till they don't need a seat anymore.
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on July 01, 2011, 11:21:20 pm
25-£30 on adaptors for the trolley

? What's that
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: vRStu on July 01, 2011, 11:23:45 pm
http://www.mothercare.com/Bugaboo-Maxi-Cosi-Car-Seat-Adaptors/dp/B000IEUVK2
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on July 01, 2011, 11:27:42 pm

So for use with the push chair / buggy  :happy2:
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: vRStu on July 01, 2011, 11:33:06 pm
Yes mate.  Well handy but another expense  :sad1:
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on July 01, 2011, 11:52:48 pm

cant see a thanks button but ta for the pointers Stu  :drinking:
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: vRStu on July 01, 2011, 11:53:57 pm
No problem Mike, just been through it all myself.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: LouCyffer on July 02, 2011, 07:50:25 am
Mike,

I went for a maxi cosi pebble seat for the newborn. With an isofix base (a must) it made for instant fixing into the car. The base has a chime & lights that indicate if the base & seat is anchored properly. It's called the Familyfix.

http://maxi-cosi.com/products/car-seats/infant/pebble.aspx

Once you're mobile, I recommend a pushchair/pram that has a mounting system for your car seat. It makes life much easier to click the car seat onto the chassis for supermarket trips etc. We chose:

http://www.icandyuk.com/products.php?id=apple

and bought a set of adaptors that link the car seat to the chassis.

Once the little fellow is too big for the car seat, the next size up (forward facing) will fit the isofix base you bought, so you simply swap seats. Under no circumstances be swayed by anyone who tells you that a seat belt anchored seat is just fine. They are a total pain to fit & remove (and you'll be doing that a lot).

I'm happy to take snaps for you of the baby seat, forward facing, and isofix base in situ, to give you an idea. Get some mesh sunblinds as well as a bootliner. You'll need to use the boot as an inpromtu changing area and your little darling will wait til you have their nappy off, then pee wildly and generously. Mine did. Thank God for boot liners.

Beware, what you are embarking on is a money pit of several orders of magnitude larger than your car can ever hope to be. But it's the best experience ever  :happy2:
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on July 02, 2011, 08:33:25 am
Mike,

I went for a maxi cosi pebble seat for the newborn. With an isofix base (a must) it made for instant fixing into the car. The base has a chime & lights that indicate if the base & seat is anchored properly. It's called the Familyfix.

http://maxi-cosi.com/products/car-seats/infant/pebble.aspx

Once you're mobile, I recommend a pushchair/pram that has a mounting system for your car seat. It makes life much easier to click the car seat onto the chassis for supermarket trips etc. We chose:

http://www.icandyuk.com/products.php?id=apple

and bought a set of adaptors that link the car seat to the chassis.

Once the little fellow is too big for the car seat, the next size up (forward facing) will fit the isofix base you bought, so you simply swap seats. Under no circumstances be swayed by anyone who tells you that a seat belt anchored seat is just fine. They are a total pain to fit & remove (and you'll be doing that a lot).

I'm happy to take snaps for you of the baby seat, forward facing, and isofix base in situ, to give you an idea. Get some mesh sunblinds as well as a bootliner. You'll need to use the boot as an inpromtu changing area and your little darling will wait til you have their nappy off, then pee wildly and generously. Mine did. Thank God for boot liners.

Beware, what you are embarking on is a money pit of several orders of magnitude larger than your car can ever hope to be. But it's the best experience ever  :happy2:

 :drinking: :drinking: :drinking:

Will be going for ISOFIX. Did it leave 'dents' In your bench after removal? 
I saw a padded seat cover/ protector that goes under the isofix base that may help prevent permanent  'dints' in the seat and protect from inevitable stains.  It was in Vw parts section

Thanks for the links  :happy2:
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: LouCyffer on July 02, 2011, 09:15:33 am
No it's been fine. I was concerned at first but no problems. I lift it out periodically to vacuum the seat of the usual rubbish scattered by the boy, and I've seen no problems. Leather all the way; it's wipe clean!
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on July 02, 2011, 09:18:21 am

Like the Pebble

The recaro is good VFM (and will look great in the car  :grin:) as it lasts so long.

To get it straight ISOFIX will go in any ISOFIX ready car but are brand specific to child seat?
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: LouCyffer on July 02, 2011, 10:47:35 am
Correct. Isofix is a mounting standard. There is no standard between base & child seat, so no cross brand compatibility. But any isofix base should fit any isofix equipped car. The golf has 2 isofix rear points, no facility for front passenger seat mounting, and no facility for mounting on the rear seat central area (where the armrest is).
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on July 02, 2011, 11:54:18 am
Correct. Isofix is a mounting standard. There is no standard between base & child seat, so no cross brand compatibility. But any isofix base should fit any isofix equipped car. The golf has 2 isofix rear points, no facility for front passenger seat mounting, and no facility for mounting on the rear seat central area (where the armrest is).

Bit of prior planning when shopping then.  Recaro do a nice newborn seat and the sport seat will last after that
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: LouCyffer on July 02, 2011, 03:13:43 pm
Make sure that you can get an adaptor to fit the recaro newborn seat to your chosen pram.
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: neg on July 02, 2011, 03:38:05 pm
Maxi Cosi for new born with ISOFIX base, so much easier to put in/out the car.  Then we moved onto the Recaro Young Sport I think it is - a great seat.  We didnt go for ISO on the second as I found the seat sat much higher with ISOFIX and it wasnt going to be taken in and out anyway.
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: vRStu on July 03, 2011, 10:25:38 am
Indeed, because the Recaro is soo much better value for money we bought one for each car rather than keep swapping.  It's not hard to fit anyway but there is no need.

AFAIK the Young Sport doesn't support ISOFix, so really you're just buying it for the 1st seat but I would recommend getting it for the 1st seat.
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on July 03, 2011, 10:58:56 am

Thanks again  :happy2:
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on July 03, 2011, 12:33:20 pm
Quote

Features:

Safety plus: multi-adjustment headrest and large-area side protection
High-quality cover materials: from innovative, trendy microfibre or fashionable Bellini. All covers are removable and can be machine-washed at 30°C
Comfort and safety: Central adjuster for harnesses and patented belt tensioner
Easily fitted: simply secure the seat with the car’s own 3-point harness
Extremely long useful life: 1 seat for children from approx. 9 months up to 12 years (9 - 36 kg)
Comfort for parents: practical carry handle
Safety plus: integrated 5-point harness for group I, 3-point vehicle harness for groups II and III (5-point harness recommended until 18kg)
Safety plus: height-adjustable shoulder harness with energy absorber
Comfort and safety: the one-handed harness adjustment automatically adapts the harness when the backrest is adjusted; this virtually eliminates the possibility of maloperation
Comfort: Rest position with one-handed operation


Rest position.  Is that a tilted 'lying down' position?
 :drinking:


Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: E30Dom on July 06, 2011, 09:08:21 pm
We used the Graco travel system to start with, which had a base you strapped down, and the carry cot clipped into... very handy if they're asleep...

Can Highly recommend this for upto 4 years...

http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en-GB&rlz=1T4GZEZ_en-GB&q=isofix+britax&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=9359019059913873586&sa=X&ei=NMAUTvzDEYKEhQeA5qnkDQ&ved=0CGEQ8wIwBQ#

Dom
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: DaveB@Vagbremtechnic on July 07, 2011, 01:10:35 am
+1 for maxi cozy cabriolet, make sure you get the family fix base and no th easy fix base, it's another twenty quid but will take the pebble seat which is the next seat along.

Icandy is very gucci, iv got the double twin candy conversion and it's not the best tbh. Also candy are not the biggest of cots so if you have a bruiser expect it to last 6 months tops, my icandy bigrig was £1400 all told so not great value

Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: red-snake on July 07, 2011, 02:35:34 pm
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Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: big al on July 11, 2011, 11:34:50 pm
Big Al's wife here. I used to work checking car seats as a road safety officer and it's terrifying the amount of people who don't have the right car seat or have the right seat incorrectly fitted. Here's a few pointers...

- Not all child seats fit all cars, do your research and check what seats fit your car.
- Don't just go to Halfords or Mothercare and buy any seat. They're paid on a commission basis and will be told to push certain brands rather than help you choose what's best for your car and child.
- Any good retailer should let you take a seat out to try it in your car. This is vital as, for example, some ford focus' have different length seatbelts from year to year and even a manufacturer recommended seat might not fit  :confused: Crazy, I know.
- Fit your seat as snugly as possible, if you shake the seat it shouldn't move at all. In fact, you should be able to shake the whole car by shaking the seat.
- I know your child's car seat will probably dent your car seats but it needs to be snug for the safety of your child. What's worth more, your upholstery or your baby?
- It is recommended that small babies only stay in their car seats for a short amount of time (can't remember the exact figure but 2 hours springs to mind) due to the fact that American studies found that prolonged periods of time in a car seat can restrict their breathing, for this reason travel systems aren't great for newborns.

Have a read of this website. It's not the best looking or laid out site but Vicky and Cathy know their stuff, big time.
http://www.childcarsafetyseats.co.uk/index.html (http://www.childcarsafetyseats.co.uk/index.html)

If you're in or near Essex, visit them and you can try loads of seats out in your car with their advice.
http://www.childcarsafetyseats.co.uk/in_car_safety_centre.html (http://www.childcarsafetyseats.co.uk/in_car_safety_centre.html)

Finally, please don't turn your children forward facing too soon. Keep them rear facing for as long as possible. Have a read of this website...
http://www.rearfacing.co.uk/ (http://www.rearfacing.co.uk/)

Watch the crash test videos and see the difference between forward and rear facing.
http://www.rearfacing.co.uk/gallery.php (http://www.rearfacing.co.uk/gallery.php)


Thanks.
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on July 12, 2011, 10:50:18 am
Big Al's wife here. I used to work checking car seats as a road safety officer and it's terrifying the amount of people who don't have the right car seat or have the right seat incorrectly fitted. Here's a few pointers...

- Not all child seats fit all cars, do your research and check what seats fit your car.
- Don't just go to Halfords or Mothercare and buy any seat. They're paid on a commission basis and will be told to push certain brands rather than help you choose what's best for your car and child.
- Any good retailer should let you take a seat out to try it in your car. This is vital as, for example, some ford focus' have different length seatbelts from year to year and even a manufacturer recommended seat might not fit  :confused: Crazy, I know.
- Fit your seat as snugly as possible, if you shake the seat it shouldn't move at all. In fact, you should be able to shake the whole car by shaking the seat.
- I know your child's car seat will probably dent your car seats but it needs to be snug for the safety of your child. What's worth more, your upholstery or your baby?
- It is recommended that small babies only stay in their car seats for a short amount of time (can't remember the exact figure but 2 hours springs to mind) due to the fact that American studies found that prolonged periods of time in a car seat can restrict their breathing, for this reason travel systems aren't great for newborns.

Have a read of this website. It's not the best looking or laid out site but Vicky and Cathy know their stuff, big time.
http://www.childcarsafetyseats.co.uk/index.html (http://www.childcarsafetyseats.co.uk/index.html)

If you're in or near Essex, visit them and you can try loads of seats out in your car with their advice.
http://www.childcarsafetyseats.co.uk/in_car_safety_centre.html (http://www.childcarsafetyseats.co.uk/in_car_safety_centre.html)

Finally, please don't turn your children forward facing too soon. Keep them rear facing for as long as possible. Have a read of this website...
http://www.rearfacing.co.uk/ (http://www.rearfacing.co.uk/)

Watch the crash test videos and see the difference between forward and rear facing.
http://www.rearfacing.co.uk/gallery.php (http://www.rearfacing.co.uk/gallery.php)


Thanks.

Thank you Mrs Al, lots of food for thought  :happy2: :drinking:
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on July 28, 2011, 09:28:07 pm

Any advice on talking SWMBO into these...

http://www.recaro-cs.com/produkte/kinderwagen/recaro-akuna.html
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: andrewparker on July 28, 2011, 09:33:08 pm
We have the iCandy Apple and Maxi Cosi combo. I'd particularly recommend the Maxi Cosi seats.
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on July 28, 2011, 09:35:10 pm

The Pebble keeps popping up as a possibility when looking at seats..  The iCandy looks good but for the price looks like it could be outgrown Vquickly  :confused:
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: andrewparker on July 28, 2011, 09:51:53 pm
The iCandy will last as long as your child wants to be in a pushchair...
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on August 25, 2011, 10:29:09 am

Ressurecting this a bit as it's one of this months purchases...

Does anyone use a car seat that doesn't attach to the pram?

The Maxi Cosi Pebble attaches to the Pram Im buying off TC but have seen other seats that dont have the right adapters...
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: LouCyffer on August 25, 2011, 10:34:53 am
Having one that attaches means that when the little one is sleeping in the car (they do this lots), you don't have to heave them out into a pram, with the chance of earning their displeasure at being woken up for a lap of Sainsburys.

That's worth a lot!
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: Johnny_tro on August 25, 2011, 10:35:16 am
Little random, an do apologise.....is it true that a car seat CAN NOT be re-used after an accident?
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on August 25, 2011, 10:37:04 am
Having one that attaches means that when the little one is sleeping in the car (they do this lots), you don't have to heave them out into a pram, with the chance of earning their displeasure at being woken up for a lap of Sainsburys.

That's worth a lot!

Keep thinking that....

Although most baby seats go straight onto the trolleys dont they.  But it would still be the case everywhere else, not having to wake him is a definate bonus...
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: LouCyffer on August 25, 2011, 10:43:02 am
For the sake of a few quid, it's a real advantage if you're out shopping, mate. I personally wouldn't consider a seat that didn't link to the pram. Swapping the tot over when it's chucking it down & blowing one ain't funny. Lifting them out, 'click' and go is sooo much better. They do mount to trolleys, but not as securely as you'd like, sometimes.
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: neg on August 25, 2011, 10:46:58 am
We use a maxicosi cabriofix on a base in the cars - which when small are a life saver, then attaches to the bugaboo with some adapters.
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on August 25, 2011, 10:47:22 am
Yes, reality check.  Stop being a big kid Mike

I Just like the Black and Red, Recaro Young Profi Plus.

Going to be realistic and practical, not see the seat as a flippin accessory and get the Maxi Cosi Pebble lol

Can just get the Young Sport or Monza Seat Fix when he's older  :happy2:

Thanks  :drinking:
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: LouCyffer on August 25, 2011, 11:05:07 am
Mike, regards the candy, don't forget you get a push chair seat attachment too. They won't outgrow it until long after they're walking. But they are quite expensive for what they are. Budget for 2 'slime' inner tubes from your local bike shop too. You'll be amazed at how many punctures you'll get without them. Which idiot decided they need pneumatic & not solid tyres I'll never know. If you do get one, don't waste your time with the 'off road' jogger wheel that makes it into a tri wheel chassis; not worth the £50 & hassle. Put it this way, there's a hardly used one in my garage you can have :grin:

Seat wise, IMHO you need Isofix base, and adaptor to link the seat to pram chassis.
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on August 25, 2011, 11:23:27 am

We've opted for a mother care SPIN.  Going to get the maxi cosi pebble and adapters

Looked at and liked the apple, thought the carry cot was rather small for the money though
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: andrewparker on August 25, 2011, 11:24:05 am
Little random, an do apologise.....is it true that a car seat CAN NOT be re-used after an accident?

Is that question for real?
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: LouCyffer on August 25, 2011, 11:26:58 am
We found it fine for the first few months. He grew out of the Moses basket before the carry cot; it's deceptive. Good call on the M/care one, though. Check tyres as I mentioned, it's worse than a car tyre going when you have a pram flattie! Solids are the way to go.
Little random, an do apologise.....is it true that a car seat CAN NOT be re-used after an accident?

Is that question for real?

Would you use a bike helmet again after you'd landed on your head?
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: LouCyffer on August 25, 2011, 11:31:07 am
Little random, an do apologise.....is it true that a car seat CAN NOT be re-used after an accident?

Impact absorbent materials are designed to deform & take some of the force. Like squashing a piece of expanded polystyrene. These materials don't regain their original shape, and therefore will be compressed, denser and unable to absorb further forces. Cycle helmet, motorbike lid, car seat, it's all the same: replace them after any significant knock.
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: DaveB@Vagbremtechnic on August 25, 2011, 03:27:45 pm
Little random, an do apologise.....is it true that a car seat CAN NOT be re-used after an accident?

Is that question for real?

The Maxi Cosi is also lifed for 5 years, sunlight affects the plastics.

+1 for the car seat that attaches to your pram - essential, dont think the pebble does from newborn?
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on August 25, 2011, 03:30:28 pm
Little random, an do apologise.....is it true that a car seat CAN NOT be re-used after an accident?

Is that question for real?

The Maxi Cosi is also lifed for 5 years, sunlight affects the plastics.

+1 for the car seat that attaches to your pram - essential, dont think the pebble does from newborn?

I was under the impresion it was from birth?
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: LouCyffer on August 25, 2011, 04:07:39 pm
Mike, pebble is newborn. Absolutely.
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: DaveB@Vagbremtechnic on August 25, 2011, 08:07:12 pm
Pebble is newborn....sorry mate my bad
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: gobbleplease on August 25, 2011, 08:30:02 pm
If i were you id wait till you buy a pram and check to see if you can get one with an integrated car seat that you can clip in to the pram / buggy then unclip and use it as a car seat ! These are the best thing in the world as it means you dont waken the baby when transfering baby from buggy to car and vice versa, trust me they are so much better when sleeping  !
Then when it hits 9 months get pne of these

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Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: LouCyffer on August 25, 2011, 09:07:44 pm
Pebble is newborn....sorry mate my bad

Dave, you might be thinking of the Pearl which is 25lb+?
Title: Re: Baby seats. . . .
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on August 29, 2011, 08:29:38 pm

Can I disable Airbags with VCDs?