I, for one, liked the idea of most race wins = championship! I really dislike how drivers kept going for consistency results. At least the new rule gave drivers a reason to fight for the win, and not just settle for second/third and turn the engine down.
I am gutted that they are thinking of getting rid of it!!
I, for one, liked the idea of most race wins = championship! I really dislike how drivers kept going for consistency results. At least the new rule gave drivers a reason to fight for the win, and not just settle for second/third and turn the engine down.
I am gutted that they are thinking of getting rid of it!!
I agreed with the principal of what they were trying to do. Getting drivers giving it some is definatl;y the way to go but i do think that wins = championship is the wrong way of going about it. At the moment a win will only give you 2 points over 2nd, well why not give the winner 15 points to realy give an advantage, consistancy will still be needed but you coulddnt give too many wins away. Dont forget, this is (IMO) the obvoius way but they changed the points scoring in 2003 to "keep the suspence lasting longer" and that little noob coulddnt do a u turn.
is it deffinately going to HD?From what i can gather, depending on whether the outside broadcasters are using hd camera equipment. Obviously BBC wont be using their camera's at every race so fingers crossed on that one.
ill be sure to send you a txt nath :evilgrin: :love:
Looks like Lewis is going to be swapping with Jenson this year, if pre-qualifying is anything to go on. :chicken:
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^ I love the sound these make! ^ :love:
Linky : - The 2009 F1 AMG Official Safety Car (http://germancarscene.com/2009/03/27/amg-once-again-provide-the-official-f1-safety-car-and-official-f1-medical-car/#more-14852)
:happy2: 8) :happy2:
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Those of us Podding on Sunday will miss the race - I can't find any repeat listing - Does anyone know any, please?
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Cheers, Nathan. I just have Freeview - Does the red button work for me do you know?
Plus having the old music back makes the hair on the back of you neck stand-up
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I loved the difference in the tyre compounds, made the choice more important. I just hope that they keep the difference as big as that for the season........can you inagine when its gets real hot in Malaysia :laugh:
Great season opener and glad for Jensen, good to see so many teams at the front
I loved the difference in the tyre compounds, made the choice more important. I just hope that they keep the difference as big as that for the season........can you inagine when its gets real hot in Malaysia :laugh:
Great season opener and glad for Jensen, good to see so many teams at the front
Agree on the tire compounds is how it should be. In the past they where to simlar reallu lived up the race.
Apparently Rain predicted this weekend which will be carnage with all the lose of aero
Might as well make them all draw straws at this rate and forget racing.
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Is it just me or do others see a touch of 'friction' between DC and Eddie Jordan?
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Is it just me or do others see a touch of 'friction' between DC and Eddie Jordan?
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Is it just me or do others see a touch of 'friction' between DC and Eddie Jordan?
I thoroughly enjoyed the race and gald to see JB at the right end. This season has been great so far and is nice to see mclaren & ferrari struggling.. even if I am a mclaren & lewis fan.
Like everyone else has said BBC have really got a polished programme and I like the fact they don't all sing from the same hymm sheet it is good to have the different thoughts. The coverage on lewis/mclaren from the Aussie GP was really well handled and balanced.
lets hope on the next grid walk Martin jums under the Toyota car with a camera :rolleye:
I didn't like the "EJ" interview with Bernie E tho. Eddie seemed a bit wooden and a bit stuck, it didn't flow.
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^ If ever a pic was begging for a caption! ^
I didn't like the "EJ" interview with Bernie E tho. Eddie seemed a bit wooden and a bit stuck, it didn't flow.
....I noticed that too - It was as if EJ was scared or too much in awe of the all-powerful dwarf king.
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I don't have a particular problem with him but am amused to read someone describing him as "shagpile-haired and prune-faced".
Look Ronaldo the new MK 6 and this fool Mosley has bought one for his roll play games. :rolleye:
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Add Max Mosely and there really are some characters in F1 !!
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^ If ever a pic was begging for a caption! ^
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^ If ever a pic was begging for a caption! ^
Look Uncle Bernie, you can see it... Oww yoo say....plain as day, under that car. Its just not fair as we don't have it. It sucks down better than any of my girlfriends...... Puleeeze make them take it off Uncle.... Puleeeeeeze !
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^ If ever a pic was begging for a caption! ^
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^ If ever a pic was begging for a caption! ^
Look Ronaldo the new MK 6 and this fool Mosley has bought one for his roll play games. :rolleye:
:signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL: - Brilliant, TC!
Even Flavio is laughing! Though he does have a lot to smile about : -
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^ His latest conquest and wife ^
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^ I gotta say I love this as a look ^ :love:
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^ If ever a pic was begging for a caption! ^
What is this girl's name????? I need her in my life................... :love: :love: :love: :love:
How does the Brawn team get there wheel hub thingy on the front wheel's to stay still as the wheel turn's :signIWS:
Time for my regular stupid question. :signIWS:
How does the Brawn team get there wheel hub thingy on the front wheel's to stay still as the wheel turn's :signIWS:
Gets ready for incoming p!ss taking. :rolleye:
Vettel did exceptionally well, but I found it to be a boring race!
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Yep, I'm well pleased for Jenson too :smiley:
I think that Lewis Hamilton drove very well and he only didn't finish much higher because he drove so near the limit and lost it a few times.
Quali is so much better this season too.
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Yep, I'm well pleased for Jenson too :smiley:
I think that Lewis Hamilton drove very well and he only didn't finish much higher because he drove so near the limit and lost it a few times.
Quali is so much better this season too.
Lewis was trying so very hard to get up the field. It was unusual to see him slip off so many times. All in all a great race and its good to see both McLaren & Ferrari on the back foot for a change. I reckon the season will be a real fight for points once they get to Europe and the other teams all have their own double defuser. Can't wait.
Yipeeeeee.. F1's interesting again. :jumpmove:
I have to say apart from the 10 laps at the begining I thought it was quite dull and processional.
Was very impressed with Button he drove a very good race. Biggest shock was Piquet keeping it on the track :rolleye:
The best bit was watching Eddie Jordan pretty much make the BBC's mind up for them, that they wont be renewing his contract next year after he verbally assaulted Kimmi Raikonen :grin:
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The best bit was watching Eddie Jordan pretty much make the BBC's mind up for them, that they wont be renewing his contract next year after he verbally assaulted Kimmi Raikonen :grin:
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Was this in the pre-race coverage or post-race?? I missed this!!
OK race, so happy for Button, I really want him to win the Championship now!
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The only part of your post I don't agree with is that you think Jenson is arrogant - I just don't see that in him on TV. I greatly admire Lewis but can see arrogance in him occasionally.
In Felipe Massa I see confidence and no trace of arrogance whatsoever - Partly why I like him so much.
I know there can be a fine line between arrogance and confidence but I'm talking about arrogance.
Schumacher is back!!!
Gutted, i was really looking forward to this but i guess its in his best interest.
Lewis and schumi would have had great battles
Renault is understood to be under investigation by Formula 1's governing body the FIA for 'alleged incidents' at a previous race – believed to be the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix.
According to Reuters, the FIA has revealed that 'an investigation is underway regarding alleged incidents at a previous Formula One world championship event', and whilst no further details were given, it is widely held that the event in question was the inaugural race held around the Marina Bay street circuit in the Far-Eastern city-state just under a year ago.
The floodlit grand prix was won by double F1 World Champion Fernando Alonso, but the Oviedo native was lucky to benefit from a timely safety car period after qualifying woes had left him down in 15th on the starting grid. The safety car emerged on lap 14, just after Alonso had made his first pit-stop, and the ensuing flurry of pit visits from his rivals promoted the 28-year-old into the lead, from where he would never look back.
The safety car intervention was caused by an accident for the Spaniard's then Renault team-mate Nelsinho Piquet, and at the weekend Brazilian TV station Globo reported that Piquet had been ordered to crash into the wall by his team, in order to vault Alonso up the pecking order.
At the time, Piquet refuted suggestions that he had crashed deliberately, insisting that he had merely been pushing too hard, but it is understood that fresh evidence has since come to light.
Piquet was sacked mid-season by the French outfit ahead of the European Grand Prix in Valencia earlier this month, prompting a vitriolic war of words in the media between the Brazilian and Renault F1 managing director Flavio Briatore. The former accused the Italian of being his 'executioner' and a man 'with no friends' who 'thinks only about money' and 'doesn't understand s**t about F1' [see separate story – click here], describing his stint at Renault as 'the worst period of my career'.
Briatore subsequently hit back in stringently denying his former driver's contention that he was never treated equally within the team and arguing: “When a driver lacks results, he opens the book of excuses and begins. The fault is the weather, a spectator's sunglasses, a spin on the straight, this and that...â€
It is not the first time Renault has fallen foul of the FIA in 2009, following Alonso's wheel-shedding incident in Hungary.
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Sounds like Piquet Junior throwing his toys out the pram. My guess is that given his family background he's probably a tad spoilt.
Just seen this on the BBC website
Flavio Briatore has left his position as boss of the Renault team after they decided not to contest charges of fixing the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix.
Executive director of engineering Pat Symonds has also left the team.
is a pitty for the 600+ largely innocent people who renault employ in oxfordshire too :sad1:
Am I the only one hoping for rain? :evilgrin:
Don't forget both Jens and Ruby had the same car at the beginning of the season and Jenson was the one who won. So the fact Ruby can drive a bad car better than Jenson can drive a good car doesn't make him a more deserved champion! :happy2:
I'm just going to say one thing...
Barichello for the Championship!!!!!!! I hope!
I'm just going to say one thing...
Barrichello for the Championship!!!!!!! I hope!
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well done Jenson :congrats:
Turned my TV over to watch porridge! So much better! Bring on the WRC and Moto GP.
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Turned my TV over to watch porridge! So much better! Bring on the WRC and Moto GP.
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A sign of a True German :laugh:Turned my TV over to watch porridge! So much better! Bring on the WRC and Moto GP.
:happy2:
:confused: :stupid:
Champione' Champione'!!!!!!!! :jumpmove: :jumpmove: :jumpmove: :jumpmove: :jumpmove: :jumpmove: :jumpmove:
I see young Mr Vettel is now showing his true colours, spoilt brat! :angry015:
I see young Mr Vettel is now showing his true colours, spoilt brat! :angry015:
I see young Mr Vettel is now showing his true colours, spoilt brat! :angry015:
....Yes, I noticed that too - Not very sportsmanlike and in very direct contrast to Rubens and others.
Bring on F1 in HD :happy2:
Good spot.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8362295.stm
Jenson looks to be ousted as well.
Wonder what will happen with the mcalren partniship
Good spot.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8362295.stm
Jenson looks to be ousted as well.
Wonder what will happen with the mcalren partniship
I could be wrong, but this massively says to me that Ross realises Jensons not that good, it was only his lucky diffuser giving him his title. Coupled with the fact of course, that he's allowing MBZ to do the hiring and firing, as its their team now
Ste
You not fancy F1 jonny or is the route youve choosen made it hard to adjust?
I know they are totally different cars etc just interested in the platform.
I could be wrong, but this massively says to me that Ross realises Jensons not that good, it was only his lucky diffuser giving him his title. Coupled with the fact of course, that he's allowing MBZ to do the hiring and firing, as its their team now
Ste
Comments like that crack me up.. Seriously, you have NO idea..
I could be wrong, but this massively says to me that Ross realises Jensons not that good, it was only his lucky diffuser giving him his title. Coupled with the fact of course, that he's allowing MBZ to do the hiring and firing, as its their team now
Ste
Comments like that crack me up.. Seriously, you have NO idea..
Jonny can you give us your opinion on JB's W/Championship win. Would be interesting to hear from someone actually within the motor sport arena.
I am still not sure of him as a driver, nor do I think he 'comes' across very well as a Champion. But As always there are 3 sides to every story, the right, the wrong and the press.
I think we are tainted heavily by the press, I will admit to that. I am interested to read your views on the subject.
Cheers Mate.
:happy2:
agreed - lets hope it is the UK dream team :pomppomp:
:congrats:
When is the ozzey race? Jan time isnt it? :party:
:congrats:
When is the ozzey race? Jan time isnt it? :party:
The season starts in March! :sad1:
Team GB FTW! :laugh:
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That's extremely excitng! Let's hope it happens.
Lovely guy as Button is, he's not the greatest diplomat and as the world champion, he now needs to learn to think before he speaks sometimes - We've already seen evidence of him being hamfisted.
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That's extremely excitng! Let's hope it happens.
Lovely guy as Button is, he's not the greatest diplomat and as the world champion, he now needs to learn to think before he speaks sometimes - We've already seen evidence of him being hamfisted.
He (and his management) have royally pi$$ed a lot of people are Brackley by just walking out for more money. From what I've heard theres quite a lot of bad feeling towards him over the whole move after everything they've all been through together. But he's making hay while the sun is shining, which you can't really blame him for
Latest is that Raikkonen is now a possible at Mercedes GP...
I personally hope that Jenson enjoys his retirement at McLaren. Could still make for an interesting season next year though. I'm just keen to see Lewis and Jenson on a level playing field at long last.
As for McLaren's future without Mercedes, with the road car division growing, they are already developing a lot of in-house power-train know-how. I wouldn't be at all suprised if they start co-producing their own power plants with the company who is supplying the engines for the new road cars (same company who supply Gordon Murray with engines for the Camparo).
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That's extremely excitng! Let's hope it happens.
Lovely guy as Button is, he's not the greatest diplomat and as the world champion, he now needs to learn to think before he speaks sometimes - We've already seen evidence of him being hamfisted.
He (and his management) have royally pi$$ed a lot of people are Brackley by just walking out for more money. From what I've heard theres quite a lot of bad feeling towards him over the whole move after everything they've all been through together. But he's making hay while the sun is shining, which you can't really blame him for
Latest is that Raikkonen is now a possible at Mercedes GP...
I personally hope that Jenson enjoys his retirement at McLaren. Could still make for an interesting season next year though. I'm just keen to see Lewis and Jenson on a level playing field at long last.
As for McLaren's future without Mercedes, with the road car division growing, they are already developing a lot of in-house power-train know-how. I wouldn't be at all suprised if they start co-producing their own power plants with the company who is supplying the engines for the new road cars (same company who supply Gordon Murray with engines for the Camparo).
I'd heard the new owners wanted two German drivers.
Lets not lambast the guy before the facts are laid out before us.
I'd heard the new owners wanted two German drivers.
Lets not lambast the guy before the facts are laid out before us.
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That's extremely excitng! Let's hope it happens.
Lovely guy as Button is, he's not the greatest diplomat and as the world champion, he now needs to learn to think before he speaks sometimes - We've already seen evidence of him being hamfisted.
He (and his management) have royally pi$$ed a lot of people are Brackley by just walking out for more money. From what I've heard theres quite a lot of bad feeling towards him over the whole move after everything they've all been through together. But he's making hay while the sun is shining, which you can't really blame him for
Latest is that Raikkonen is now a possible at Mercedes GP...
I personally hope that Jenson enjoys his retirement at McLaren. Could still make for an interesting season next year though. I'm just keen to see Lewis and Jenson on a level playing field at long last.
As for McLaren's future without Mercedes, with the road car division growing, they are already developing a lot of in-house power-train know-how. I wouldn't be at all suprised if they start co-producing their own power plants with the company who is supplying the engines for the new road cars (same company who supply Gordon Murray with engines for the Camparo).
I'd heard the new owners wanted two German drivers.
Lets not lambast the guy before the facts are laid out before us.
That appears to be what the press deduced from the them already signing Rosberg and approaching Glock and Heidfeld, but I think if the price was right they'd be mad not to go for Kimi. He's wanted to go rallying for a while and I'd not be suprised if he does a Hakkinen and takes a sabatical and doesnt come back, but from what I've seen he's not that good at rallying so WRC teams aren't exactly queuing up, so his options are limited. Staying in F1 if he can would be wise.
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That's extremely excitng! Let's hope it happens.
Lovely guy as Button is, he's not the greatest diplomat and as the world champion, he now needs to learn to think before he speaks sometimes - We've already seen evidence of him being hamfisted.
He (and his management) have royally pi$$ed a lot of people are Brackley by just walking out for more money. From what I've heard theres quite a lot of bad feeling towards him over the whole move after everything they've all been through together. But he's making hay while the sun is shining, which you can't really blame him for
Latest is that Raikkonen is now a possible at Mercedes GP...
I personally hope that Jenson enjoys his retirement at McLaren. Could still make for an interesting season next year though. I'm just keen to see Lewis and Jenson on a level playing field at long last.
As for McLaren's future without Mercedes, with the road car division growing, they are already developing a lot of in-house power-train know-how. I wouldn't be at all suprised if they start co-producing their own power plants with the company who is supplying the engines for the new road cars (same company who supply Gordon Murray with engines for the Camparo).
I'd heard the new owners wanted two German drivers.
Lets not lambast the guy before the facts are laid out before us.
That appears to be what the press deduced from the them already signing Rosberg and approaching Glock and Heidfeld, but I think if the price was right they'd be mad not to go for Kimi. He's wanted to go rallying for a while and I'd not be suprised if he does a Hakkinen and takes a sabatical and doesnt come back, but from what I've seen he's not that good at rallying so WRC teams aren't exactly queuing up, so his options are limited. Staying in F1 if he can would be wise.
Kimi has been offered an extra 7 million to stay on a sabatical for 12 months so whoever he drives for would need to cover that before they start talking about a wage! :confused:
i'm so excited i could make a spot on the carpet :pomppomp:
i for one really cant wait for him to return !!! show them all how to really drive :driver:
i have a forfeit for you,i for one really cant wait for him to return !!! show them all how to really drive :driver:
Yeh Right........He's Past it
If anybody wants to suggest a suitable forfeit for me to perform if he wins it this year - I'm up for it.
i have a forfeit for you,i for one really cant wait for him to return !!! show them all how to really drive :driver:
Yeh Right........He's Past it
If anybody wants to suggest a suitable forfeit for me to perform if he wins it this year - I'm up for it.
if im wrong i'll supply you with an A3 picture of me in a horse thong :sick:
Very tempted to book Silverstone tickets.
Never been before and what a time to go....
Lewis vs Button, Schumi back, Massa, Vettel etc could be a VERY good year.
Had a day off down route today in Nice, jumped on the train to Monaco and walked the circuit after a spot of lunch at Tabac. Theres huge building works going on at the tunnel exit....The exit from the tunnel just wasn't there! so huge construction and resurfacing going on, was good fun to walk it - took about 40 minutes.
I cant be sure but there was a huge lateral tyre mark just where Lewis H. spun off at mirabeau last year and the hairpin kerbing was just Black with not a tyre pattern mark anywhere - just near slick/grooved tyre marks!
My mate took some pics I'll post em up when I get em
Just had this notification on Facebook:
TAG Heuer Visit www.tagheuer.com tomorrow Friday January 29th at 11am GMT to discover live the reveal of the new Vodafone McLaren Mercedes and our two 2010 F1 brand ambassadors, 2008 F1 World Champion Lewis Hamilton and new teammate 2009 F1 World Champion Jenson Button.
If you visit now http://carlaunch.mclaren.com, you can see a TAG Heuer countdown to the show.
Sorry matey, i'll get me coat! :ashamed:
Yup, see reply #274 :wink:
Sorry matey, i'll get me coat! :ashamed:
Yup, see reply #274 :wink:
:love: :drinking:Sorry matey, i'll get me coat! :ashamed:
Yup, see reply #274 :wink:
Aww don't worry, here's a hug just for you! :grouphug:
get a room :P
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Oh the sound, how I have missed it! :love:
What the hell is that thing a top of the Ferrari? :confused:
Virgin Racing has revealed its first Formula 1 car, the VR-01, although its planned online launch was delayed by technical difficulties.
The VR-01 was due to be unveiled on the team's website this morning, the team having opted for an 'all-digital' launch to mirror its 'all-digital car' - reflecting the fact that design company Wirth Research created the car entirely using computational fluid dynamics rather than using a windtunnel.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81228 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81228)
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Virgin Racing has revealed its first Formula 1 car, the VR-01, although its planned online launch was delayed by technical difficulties.
The VR-01 was due to be unveiled on the team's website this morning, the team having opted for an 'all-digital' launch to mirror its 'all-digital car' - reflecting the fact that design company Wirth Research created the car entirely using computational fluid dynamics rather than using a windtunnel.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81228 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81228)
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Interestingly, that is the only F1 car to be designed entirely by computer with no wind tunnel usage! I wonder how it will fare....
they also have the smallest budget in the pit lane.
40 million is there top line.
Is a lot of needle between miske gasgoine and the designer of this.
Plus the owners have a bet that who ever finish's behind the other has to go on the winners airline dressed as an air stewardess
I wish this years season would start already :party:
Renault
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Remember Force India.......... you heard it here.........I shall be bobbing down to William Hills prior to March
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Remember Force India.......... you heard it here.........I shall be bobbing down to William Hills prior to March
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Fantasy F1 League
We've set up a Scirocco Central Fantasy F1 league and thought a few of you guys may be interested :happy2:
You have a budget of £40m and you can make as many changes as you like within budget throughout the season. No prizes, just forum bragging rights
http://www.fantasyracers.com/
League Name : SciroccoCentral
League Number : 40560
League Password : Button
Top ten for from first practice this morning...........
1 A Sutil Force India
2 Spain F Alonso Ferrari
3 Poland R Kubica Renault
4 Brazil F Massa Ferrari
5 Great Britain J Button McLaren
6 Great Britain L Hamilton McLaren
7 Italy V Liuzzi Force India
8 Germany N Rosberg Mercedes GP
9 Australia M Webber Red Bull
10 Germany M Schumacher Mercedes GP
Nah, came in to work early to watch it on the BBC website! :pomppomp:
Ohh whats the app please?
Defiently some sand bagging going on. So good to see it back
Shock news alert :chicken: :driver:
Vettel misses out on first win due to exhaust failure. Rumour in the paddock say's it was a milltek. :laugh:
Shock news alert :chicken: :driver:
Vettel misses out on first win due to exhaust failure. Rumour in the paddock say's it was a milltek. :laugh:
:notworthy: :notworthy:
Thats brilliant! :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: I've always said that those Millteks are nothing but trouble :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL:
But that's exactly the type of thing that would make it exciting, trying to qualify 3rd on purpose would be hard when your talking about 0.2s. even if you had the advantage you gotta get past before turn 1, whilst defending against the faster cars behind. the more I think about this the more I like it.
Also how about introducing 5 points for the fastest lap of the race?
I should be F1 president!!!!, vote me in and I will spice the sport up instead of blowing my salery on Nazi sex games.
Crikey! How utterly dull and boring are those Oz police re Lewis' "intentional loss of traction".
Crikey! How utterly dull and boring are those Oz police re Lewis' "intentional loss of traction".
Perhaps a bit daft of LH to do with the Rozzers watching? Perhaps?
Was on a Public Highway and he took the P, end of.
damn SKY+ and the channel change :fighting:
missed the 2nd half of the race, watched the recorded 1st half on the player, switched to BBC 2 to see the podiums :sad1:
Schumi got a 20sec penalty - which has demoted him to 12th place.
Absurd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you read the rule from the FIA you will see that the decision is utter nonsense!!!
Schumi got a 20sec penalty - which has demoted him to 12th place.
Absurd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you read the rule from the FIA you will see that the decision is utter nonsense!!!
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I wish the BBC would show more of Lee McKenzie though :love:
Schumi got a 20sec penalty - which has demoted him to 12th place.
Absurd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you read the rule from the FIA you will see that the decision is utter nonsense!!!
should have just put him back behind alonso at worst imo!
I know why its such a harsh decision though. Damon Hill was with the stewards doing the investigation
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I wish the BBC would show more of Lee McKenzie though :love:
Me too :wink:
Come on chaps you all know that team Ferrari can do no wrong in the FIA's eyes, nothing to do with Damon Hill. Massa did not get a penalty for balking Button in qualifying. :popcornsoda:
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Courtesy of Lee McKenzie's news flashes:
Mercedes to appeal schumi's penalty..
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/83686
This explains it:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2010/05/16/the-fias-badly-written-rules-leave-formula-1-looking-stupid-once-again/
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This explains it:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2010/05/16/the-fias-badly-written-rules-leave-formula-1-looking-stupid-once-again/
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Clowns! :stupid:
They are making a mockery of my beloved sport!! :fighting:
This should be hamiltons race tomorrow I reckon unless webber piles pressure to force a mistake
how bumpy is that track btw! :laugh:
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I dunno why, cos he's a good driver, but there's something I don't like about Webber.
Great to see Schumi up there too.
and as for hamilton, i dislike him too, bored of the dummy spitting with him... button is my favourite, when that guys on fire he's amazing to watch!
hamilton is merely moulded by better PR, put him under pressure and his true colours are still there :innocent:
hamilton is merely moulded by better PR, put him under pressure and his true colours are still there :innocent:
agreed... see http://www.f1reports.com/f1/article/4916/?cal=1&y=2010&m=4
Chuffed to fook the boxhead took out the convict to allow Hamilton & Button to pass :signLOL:
Good pressure there from Lewis. I was sure we were going to have a repeat at one stage when Lewis and Jenson were scrapping.
Good race :happy2:
Boxhead = German = Vettel
Convict = Australian = Webber
Convict because thats were we used to send all our convicts. :happy2:
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Great racing - Not just up front either - Lots of scraps going on.
Also great coverage by Jake and his team. Excellent on the Red Button discussion afterwards too.
LOL yea I noticed him tittering.. and typically Jake ignored making anything of it.. shame was pretty funny
lewis really wasnt happy about jenson going for the overtake.
that wasnt on considering they had both been told to save fuel, and that is the reason jenson managed to get past him. as shown when lewis promptly overtook him again. that is the first time ive seen lewis not celebrate a victory(even more suprising when you count that is his first win this season)
Very opportunistic by button but hamilton had the last laugh though
where would hammy lie in the championship standings if he hadnt suffered from a rim failure?
Glad vettel messed up, hes a whinger, and im glad schumi is yet again quicker than rosberg, has rosberg needed taking down a peg or two after he was quicker than schumi the first few races.
where would hammy lie in the championship standings if he hadnt suffered from a rim failure?
think it might have been Pedro Dela Rosa in front of him and alonso wast quick enough to get past, he kept leaving the track trying to get past on a few occasions, and then eventually clipped him on one of his lunges giving him a puncture.
might have been someone else though :grin:
anybody seen in the news, redbull have said they think it was webbers fault for not giving enough room, but they will not be releasing th steering telemetry. wander why??? webbers contract is up the end of the season. vettel is signed on for more time already.
anybody guess who redbulls number 1 driver is
That was purely a racing incident.. Webber had to defend, and Vettel had to move over to make the move stick, he presumed once along side Webber would give him the corner, he didn't, so they touched.. To 'blame' it one one driver is pretty sh*tty if you ask me.. but its the way things are with the media / public, everyone wants someone to be held accountable..
the drunken VC speaks the truth
the drunken VC speaks the truth
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Starting to show his true colours now the arrogant little sh1t. RR you will remember the conversation you and I had about Vettel about 18 months ago! :innocent:
Starting to show his true colours now the arrogant little sh1t. RR you will remember the conversation you and I had about Vettel about 18 months ago! :innocent:
Starting to show his true colours now the arrogant little sh1t. RR you will remember the conversation you and I had about Vettel about 18 months ago! :innocent:
....I don't remember what I said last week, let alone 18 months ago! :laugh:
Starting to show his true colours now the arrogant little sh1t. RR you will remember the conversation you and I had about Vettel about 18 months ago! :innocent:
....I don't remember what I said last week, let alone 18 months ago! :laugh:
True enough! :laugh:
Twas along the lines of me saying there was something about him I didn't like.......................... anyway! :rolleye:
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On the day, the best man/team (F1 and footie) won. Lewis has really matured as a driver - Excellent performance by him.
I thought Coulthard was talking rubbish and agree with Eddie Jordan and the Lotus guy on this one. The more I see DC, the more he begins to irritate me - He's such a weird guy and with very little sense of humour.
Glad Webber is ok but I don't want him to win the Championship.
As for Alonso, he's a spoilt brat.
:grin: :grin: :grin:
Alonso is such a miserable tw@t and is so far up his own @ss i hate the guy :fighting: :fighting: :fighting:.
Hopefully the Mclarens will dominate silverstone with there new blown exhaust system and show the redbulls whats what and Alonso crashes into a wall at 200mph :evilgrin:.
I though it was soooo funny hearing alonso complaining about Hamilton over the radio, all he was bothered about was getting Hamilton into trouble with the stewards and to be fair to Hamilton he was literaly inches from the safety car line.Couldnt have said it any better myself :signLOL:
Alonso is such a miserable tw@t and is so far up his own @ss i hate the guy :fighting: :fighting: :fighting:.
Hopefully the Mclarens will dominate silverstone with there new blown exhaust system and show the redbulls whats what and Alonso crashes into a wall at 200mph :evilgrin:.
Not moving out of the house this weekend, especially Sunday!! :party:
Well i just had to post as i'm going to the F1 Qualifying tomorrow and it's the first time ive been and i'm excited :jumping:
Anyone else going or been before?
Gav
Superb stuff!! :congrats:
Could have only been bettered if Button got on to the podium! :happy2:
Outstanding
Was chuffed to fcuk that Vettel lost out big style today
Well done Webber. Loved his comment at the end "Not bad for a No.2 Driver) :signLOL: :signLOL:
Chuffed Hamilton got 2nd
Mega Mega Chuffed with everything that happened to Alonso today. Can't wait to hear him whinge about it.
but chuffed to bits webber got 2nd after the hassle hes had in his team.
but chuffed to bits webber got 1st after the hassle hes had in his team.
Am I missing something. Webber won :confused: :confused:
Well, I think Alonso has every right to be angry at the stewards decision! Two successive races where the stewards have penalised him, I'd be pretty pissed! Although having said that his attitude could definitely improve!
Well, I think Alonso has every right to be angry at the stewards decision! Two successive races where the stewards have penalised him, I'd be pretty pissed! Although having said that his attitude could definitely improve!
Its harsh but I wondering whether they did so because of all the extremely negative and unproffesional things alonso and ferrari said about the FIA after last race, including comments of the fia fixing races etc
Well, I think Alonso has every right to be angry at the stewards decision! Two successive races where the stewards have penalised him, I'd be pretty pissed! Although having said that his attitude could definitely improve!
I think any decision against Alonso is Just, Fair & Always Correct :innocent: :evilgrin:
hopefully carnage in the first corner between vettel and alonso.
hopefully carnage in the first corner between vettel and alonso.
I've got access to a couple of Javelins :wink: :laugh:
hopefully carnage in the first corner between vettel and alonso.
I've got access to a couple of Javelins :wink: :laugh:
I hope someone complains as orders that influence a race result between teams are prohibited.
Would love Alonso to get another penalty. I feel sorry for Massa
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Hey, guys, F1 (any sport) isn't run by the fans and their 'expert' opinions, nor by the media. As any professional racing driver will tell you, the goal is for the TEAM to win. That's how enough money is attracted into the sport so that motorsport actually happens. So, Ferrari did what they deemed in their best TEAM interests whether it was too transparent or not.
Having said that, my favourite current driver is Felipe Massa and although I am a Ferrari fan I detest Alonso irrespective of his driving skills. I feel absolutely gutted for Felipe but he acted totally professionally :notworthy: - He's a team player.
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Hey, guys, F1 (any sport) isn't run by the fans and their 'expert' opinions, nor by the media. As any professional racing driver will tell you, the goal is for the TEAM to win. That's how enough money is attracted into the sport so that motorsport actually happens. So, Ferrari did what they deemed in their best TEAM interests whether it was too transparent or not.
Having said that, my favourite current driver is Felipe Massa and although I am a Ferrari fan I detest Alonso irrespective of his driving skills. I feel absolutely gutted for Felipe but he acted totally professionally :notworthy: - He's a team player.
i dont agree.
if the fans dont watch, there is no f1.
Robin you cant honestly believe that was for the good of the team.
If they hadn't ordered that change they still would have had a Ferrari 1,2 so in this instance it was not for the benefit of the team it is because Alonso is a jumped up little tw@ and for some reason Ferrari bowed to his pressure.
Robin you cant honestly believe that was for the good of the team.
If they hadn't ordered that change they still would have had a Ferrari 1,2 so in this instance it was not for the benefit of the team it is because Alonso is a jumped up little tw@ and for some reason Ferrari bowed to his pressure.
....Ferrari said that favouring the faster car was for the benefit of the team, not me. I would have much preferred to see a proper race where Alonso was left to try to overtake Massa. The point I was making is that every team has to base its decisions on the bigger picture whether popular with the drivers or the fans or not popular - Ferrari did what they thought was right at the time but I don't agree with them.
I detest Alonso even more after today and his gesticulating and uttering "ridiculous" - Who the feck does he think he is!? Arrogant tw@t!
I don't like Alonso at the best of times and I have no leaning towards Ferrari, all I can see here is blatant cheating and they should be disqualified. If Alonso cannot win the race of his own doing then he doesn't deserve it.
If Alonso cannot win the race of his own doing then he doesn't deserve it.
I don't like Alonso at the best of times and I have no leaning towards Ferrari, all I can see here is blatant cheating and they should be disqualified. If Alonso cannot win the race of his own doing then he doesn't deserve it.
....But do you think that Felipe Massa would deserve the results of a disqualification?
Did you watch any of the more in depth discussions and interviews on BBC's Red Button after the race?
Yes I do actually Robin, I like Massa but by moving over he took part in the conspiracy to fraudulently change the result of the race. It's cheating - End of story.
No I haven't watched the discussions, I was watching the race on SkyPlus but I've just turned it off in disgust.
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I still maintain that Massa did nothing wrong as an employee of Ferrari and professional driver. He was put in a position between a rock and a hard place where he had little choice.
Talk of race bans etc is waaaay OTT, imo.
You say he's a professional driver and yet his actions today were totally unprofessional.
I understand your admiration for his team spirit however like it or not he was part of a race rigging which ultimately could affect the result of the World Championship.
As for the stewards' decision, given after the race, in the interests of the sport, we have decided not to go through a procedure of appealing against it, confident that the World Council will know how to evaluate the overall facts correctly.
F1 is not just purely about who is the fastest driver. Its also about the drivers ability to get the best out of the car, pace of the car, reliability, skill at overtaking, when to do so, strategy for pits stops etc which ultimately makes it a team sport. BUT what happens on the track should be the drivers decision alone. The only influence the team should have is when to pit stop them as they can sit an analyse the data, which the driver can't do in the car and look for the gap to slot the driver back into.
Just seen that Ferrari are not going to appeal the Stewards Decision of the £65k fine.Quote from: Stefano DomenicaliAs for the stewards' decision, given after the race, in the interests of the sport, we have decided not to go through a procedure of appealing against it, confident that the World Council will know how to evaluate the overall facts correctly.
I wonder if thats because they can claim they will be punished twice if the WMC do decide to take action!!
But surely if Alonso was faster he would have legitimately got past Massa.
Any driver can be quick with clean air in front of him and the only times Alonso really caught Massa was when they caught up to the traffic.
Look at the point where Alonso tried to overtake. He legitimately did get past only to lose the position on the next corner. He then has a Hissy Fit. In the next few laps Massa then establishes a 2.5sec lead only to be told Alonso is faster :confused: :confused:
Massa was 14/1 to win the GP. I reckon there was quite a few unhappy punters about..............
Another twist on the matter?
....The driver's championship may be, or should be, all about what you say, but the bottom line is the constructor's championship. The driver is an employed jockey and the bottom line is the money the team/constructor can attract to go towards the goal of winning a motor racing formula - The team heads are in control. The driver is the tip of the iceberg.
Alonso could have gotten past him, but at great risk of one of them coming off, i believe that is what frustrated him. When two drivers are driving the same car it takes a kamikaze move to get past at this level. Ferrari were desperate to get a 1-2 result this weekend, even before the race started the team manager was saying this result of both finishing with no dramas was paramount.
It does seem wrong watching these goings on but thats just the way it is, everyone is pissed off because it was dick dastardly who beneiftted, if you read through this thread, most peoples opinions of who they want to win are based on whether they are german or simply foreign. :stupid:
I prefer cars to people on the whole :confused: so save my irrational feelings for Eastenders.
All the really great moments in F1 have been when drivers are being mental and overtaking when they really cant or are risking death, thats why mansel was the best for me as he was simply bonkers and just went for it.
....The driver's championship may be, or should be, all about what you say, but the bottom line is the constructor's championship. The driver is an employed jockey and the bottom line is the money the team/constructor can attract to go towards the goal of winning a motor racing formula - The team heads are in control. The driver is the tip of the iceberg.
The 'Team' would have scored the same points whether Massa or Alonso finished first so that doesn't hold up mate. This bit of cheating was all about the Drivers Championship and who currently has the most points.
Not only did Felipe Massa lose a possible first place but he was subsequently in the aftermath obliged to tell an 'untruth' as far as I can see.
Not only did Felipe Massa lose a possible first place but he was subsequently in the aftermath obliged to tell an 'untruth' as far as I can see.
Which is exactly why they should both be punished, Massa (Whether he liked it or not) assisted in fixing the final result of this race and then lied about it afterwards.
I like Massa myself and I understand his position but sometimes you just have to say I don't want to be part of that, or even better and most suitable in Massa's case is that he's better than that.
....The driver's championship may be, or should be, all about what you say, but the bottom line is the constructor's championship. The driver is an employed jockey and the bottom line is the money the team/constructor can attract to go towards the goal of winning a motor racing formula - The team heads are in control. The driver is the tip of the iceberg.
The 'Team' would have scored the same points whether Massa or Alonso finished first so that doesn't hold up mate. This bit of cheating was all about the Drivers Championship and who currently has the most points.
....Yes, you're absolutely right. My reply was more directly in response to Carl's words about what F1 is all about. :happy2:
Even though I am a red car fan, I detest Alonso as a character and have nothing but admiration and respect for Felipe, so I was gutted to see what happened. Not only did Felipe Massa lose a possible first place but he was subsequently in the aftermath obliged to tell an 'untruth' as far as I can see.
But surely if Alonso was faster he would have legitimately got past Massa.
Any driver can be quick with clean air in front of him and the only times Alonso really caught Massa was when they caught up to the traffic.
Look at the point where Alonso tried to overtake. He legitimately did get past only to lose the position on the next corner. He then has a Hissy Fit. In the next few laps Massa then establishes a 2.5sec lead only to be told Alonso is faster :confused: :confused:
Alonso could have gotten past him, but at great risk of one of them coming off, i believe that is what frustrated him. When two drivers are driving the same car it takes a kamikaze move to get past at this level. Ferrari were desperate to get a 1-2 result this weekend, even before the race started the team manager was saying this result of both finishing with no dramas was paramount.
It does seem wrong watching these goings on but thats just the way it is, everyone is pissed off because it was dick dastardly who beneiftted, if you read through this thread, most peoples opinions of who they want to win are based on whether they are german or simply foreign. :stupid:
I prefer cars to people on the whole :confused: so save my irrational feelings for Eastenders.
All the really great moments in F1 have been when drivers are being mental and overtaking when they really cant or are risking death, thats why mansel was the best for me as he was simply bonkers and just went for it.
My Wife's cousin is married to a Spanish guy and him and his family can't stand Alonso either :P
Massa was 14/1 to win the GP. I reckon there was quite a few unhappy punters about..............
Another twist on the matter?
....Certainly another twist but not one to be concerned about. It's entirely up to those who choose to gamble - Anyone who gambles (including stocks and shares) should always be well prepared for the possibility of losing. No bet is safe.
I suppose that if some heavy money was on Alonso winning, someone would claim it was rigged. I don't think the Mafia are involved in Ferrari - They are too much in the spotlight for it to remain discrete.
Mclaren do seem to run heavy fuel loads on friday practice, qualifing will show how far they are off the pace, they have three week break after this one to come up with somthing to catch the redbulls and ferrari. just need to keep scoring the points like they have been to keep them at the top until they come up with a solution.
Just aslong as Alonso the spoilt, cheating, winging little brat doesnt finish the race tomorrow ill be happy...
Just aslong as Alonso the spoilt, cheating, winging little brat doesnt finish the race tomorrow ill be happy, hopefully in a ball of flames :evilgrin:.
Just aslong as Alonso the spoilt, cheating, winging little brat doesnt finish the race tomorrow ill be happy, hopefully in a ball of flames :evilgrin:.
this would be funnier
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Not heard that Robin where did you hear that. :confused:
I soooooo hope that is true :party: :party:
Not heard that Robin where did you hear that. :confused:
I soooooo hope that is true :party: :party:
....I was told at my local butcher's this morning. Obviously not so.. Dunno where he got it from. I was expecting confirmation on the BBC from Jake and his mates but :sad1:
The whole first half-hour of the BBC's Quali prog was about last weekend's debacle.
You'd have thought that the World Council would have met and sorted this out before this weekend's race!
Rubens is even still gracious about it !
That old man needs to retire !
That move by Schumacher was shocking :surprised: :scared:
It would have been ok to do it on Alonso but not Barrichello!
Pity Vettel is such a poor loser but perhaps he'll learn.
Pity Vettel is such a poor loser but perhaps he'll learn.
Indeed, his attitude is becoming quite irritating. He needs to learn to accept that not everything is going to go his way, and that he is susceptible to making the odd mistake or three. To my knowledge he has still not accepted any degree of responsibility for his collision with Webber.
You could understand it from a multi-Championship winning driver, but he's proved nothing yet, and by all accounts, with the car he has under him should have had this years title wrapped up by now.
I was chuffed to foook Alonso is in 10th.
Wonder if he was "too angry to speak" again.
I hope he finishes 10th or worse tomorrow.
On a different note i wonder if McLaren are going to accept now that RedBull's chief designer is a lot fcuking cleverer than they are.
Good on Hamilton though. Hopefully he can win this and Monza :happy2:
The thing with Alonso is, its all well been in front but when hes put under pressure he looses control of himself an makes more mistakes, not the making of a good driver imo.
Also hes a blatant cheat and a whinging little baby that gets everything put on a plate for him! :fighting:
If you look at Hamilton hes gone in the opposite direction and now keeps cool when under pressure, Vettel should take note on that and also learn to pass cars without crashing into them.
/Vettel is very good in front but carnt overtake to save his life
Its easy overtaking the lesser cars but when it comes time to overtake a mclaren or his fellow redbull hes crashed into them.
The redbull being similar performance and so difficult to overtake and the mclaren been probably the hardest car to ovetake as its straight line pace is awesome. Hes completely messed it up on both occasions.
Both were very stupid mistakes aswell, like turning into webber, i mean why do that :confused:
He still has to prove himself in that department against the big boys imo!
they cant change anything at all
As much as i like ferrari road cars, as a racing team i really do hate them and there silly Italian accents :fighting:
Ferrari just remind me of man utd
Also how can you have the head of ferrari as the head of the FIA, basically there carrupt frauds
Rant over :grin: :grin: :grin:
just finished watching it. thredders with that result.
hamilton fecked up plain and simple purely his own fault. button had a bit of bad luck with traffic, but to be fair alonso had more than enough in the tank. before those pitstops he was up buttons rear wing even with the turbulant air. when he had the lead he just disappeared.
wander if alonso engine will last though, they have used all of their alloted engines now, and that was definitely maxed out there
what i wold really like to see is alonso's engine go bang while he is in the car, causing a catastophic fire, which means he is unable to finish the season. Then watch ferrari suck up to massa, while lewis wins the championship.
Setting fire to Alonso mmmmmm, maybe a tad harsh :evilgrin:
Am I the only one supporting Alonso?
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Am I the only one supporting Alonso?
closely followed by VettelAm I the only one supporting Alonso?
What :surprised:
Personaly i hope the guy goes through a concrete wall tomorrow at 200mph, infact ive been hoping that all season but as yet, hes still alive :sad1: :sad1: :sad1:
What the fcuk are mclaren doing :stupid:
What is Hamilton doing :stupid:
He is commentating at the Commonwealth Games so Lee Mckenzie is filling his spot on F1 until he gets back.
I could fill her spot if required :drool: :drool: :evilgrin:
I was up at 0200 this morning for practice and back up at 0600 for practice 2 :P
Will be up at 0300 tomorrow for FP3 and then back up at 0600 for Qualifying :party:
Aaaanyway.............
Fluff getting up at 2am, thats what the red button's for! :wink:
Aaaanyway.............
Fluff getting up at 2am, thats what the red button's for! :wink:
Dedication is what you need :wink:
Aaaanyway.............
Fluff getting up at 2am, thats what the red button's for! :wink:
Dedication is what you need :wink:
But I'm not trying to be a record breaker! :laugh:
Aaaanyway.............
Fluff getting up at 2am, thats what the red button's for! :wink:
Dedication is what you need :wink:
But I'm not trying to be a record breaker! :laugh:
....I think that being up at 1:30am detailing your car in an underground carpark in Belgium (or was it France), Nath, must have broken a record :laugh: :evilgrin:
You are in good form tonight Robin! :laugh:
Korea did really well to get it all ready in time and to produce what looks like such a good circuit. Makes the UK's efforts look a joke!
Korea did really well to get it all ready in time and to produce what looks like such a good circuit. Makes the UK's efforts look a joke!
What Silverstone? :stupid: :fighting:
the Korea track is government sponsored wasn't it? so funding was never an issue.
the crap monsoon type weather was tho.
We just need Hamilton to pass Alonso now or even better Alonso to crash.
Button is out of this now. I doubt the other 4 will crash out in the next 2 races.Hamilton was far too slow in the last few laps due to his tyres so even if he didnt make that mistake Alonso would have overtaken him in the final few laps
I bet Hamilton is regretting late braking at turn one now when he was in 2nd
If there is a God he will hear my Prayer and not let Alonso win the Championship :sad1:
How many of the people who hate Alonso are Ferrari fans?
Someone needs to point out to Alonso that there is no "I" in Team.
Now (although i hate to admit it) lewis and jenson have a slim chance of winning IMO im backing webber, gettin quite old by f1 standards, (mind you schumachers still goin) could be his last few chances at gettin a championship
F1in HD!! :party:
Didn't think this was coming until next year?
I'm amazed that the BBC team are seemingly talking about team orders being OK at the end of the season, yet Ferrari were lambasted for doing it mid-season!
Good race result as I'm now wanting Vettel to win the championship as Hamilton is no longer a realistic contender. Anyone who doesn't like Vettel should perhaps rethink after seeing him interviewed in the forum aftershow.
dont like him...spoilt brat...regardless of what he said on the post race forum (which i didn't see)
:happy2:
I'm with you Lee :wink:
I'm amazed that the BBC team are seemingly talking about team orders being OK at the end of the season, yet Ferrari were lambasted for doing it mid-season!
....It was fully discussed and explained on the Red Button Forum show afterwards.
dont like him...spoilt brat...regardless of what he said on the post race forum (which i didn't see)
:happy2:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/forums/t/16619.aspx
Vettel can stand Webber finishing second because even though that would tie them on 256 points he would win on the basis of five victories to four. But Vettel also needs Alonso to finish sixth or lower. That will be a tall order unless the Ferrari proves fragile, which is unlikely
Hamilton’s situation is simple: He is on 222 points and there are a maximum of 25 available, so he must win with Alonso failing to score, Vettel no higher than third and Webber no higher than sixth.
that saidQuoteVettel can stand Webber finishing second because even though that would tie them on 256 points he would win on the basis of five victories to four. But Vettel also needs Alonso to finish sixth or lower. That will be a tall order unless the Ferrari proves fragile, which is unlikelyQuoteHamilton’s situation is simple: He is on 222 points and there are a maximum of 25 available, so he must win with Alonso failing to score, Vettel no higher than third and Webber no higher than sixth.
Probably more like
I wonder how many times I can just punch him in the face before someone (if anyone) reacts :laugh:
Come on Alonso! :happy2:
Alonso engine blowout anyone :evilgrin:
wouldn't affect anything tho cos he couldn't even get past Petrov!
bore off
i absolutely love F1 and am over the moon for redbull. they had the best team/car by far. one of the bbest seasons for a very long time as well.
I just hate alonso's arrogance
Shows how much you guys really like F1 when you're only comments are aimed at Alonso not winning :stupid:
i absolutely love F1 and am over the moon for redbull. they had the best team/car by far. one of the bbest seasons for a very long time as well.
Shows how much you guys really like F1 when you're only comments are aimed at Alonso not winning :stupid:Ii really dont see where your coming from with that comment.
Shows how much you guys really like F1 when you're only comments are aimed at Alonso not winning :stupid:Ii really dont see where your coming from with that comment.
My point is that the large majority of comments are squarely aimed at Alonso. That, for me, isn't discussion about Formula 1.
Is finding someone to hate (bizarre choice of word by the way) really necessary?
I think it's a bit too easy to feel like an over keen football fan and get carried away with focussing too much on hating rivals.
the main teams have all their drivers signed for next season dont they.
i was under the idea that kubica might be moving to ferrari the season after next, i also thought Red Bull had signed webber for next season as well, and the same with massa and ferrari
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Vettel winning this season is the best result as far as I'm concerned :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: though it must be said that all the contenders deserved to win the drivers championship.
I've always liked Vettel and recognised his talent. Great for a team like Red Bull and great to see Lewis and Jenson on the podium. I'm a Ferrari fan but not an Alonso fan and they'll be back to fight next season.
Didn't Jake and his team do well! Best TV coverage ever! :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: I always enjoy the red button forum afterwards.
I can't wait for next season.
And I guess that's what we have to remember about Alonso and Ferrari. They come from countries where sportsmanship means nothing, and winning (at any cost) means everything. It's the Latin spirit, and just as we need the ruthless German drivers, the kamikaze Japanese drivers and the polite Englishmen, we need the huffy Spaniard too. It's what makes F1 interesting!
if there is one bloke i want to seein a top end F1 car, then its kobayashi. hes entertaining in an underpar car. imagine him in a red bull/mclaren or ferrari
I'm wondering of Merc will come back strong it would be good to see a four/five team fight
which does raise the question of how they're going to do that without having the mother of all turbo lag?
which does raise the question of how they're going to do that without having the mother of all turbo lag?
he said 750 bhp not 550 ........ :pomppomp:
Hopefully it will see a leap in the developments of variable vane technology on petrol turbos. :party:
During the first phase of qualifying, any driver who fails to set a lap within 107 percent of the fastest time will not be allowed to start the race. However, in exceptional circumstances, which could include a driver setting a suitable time during practice, the stewards may permit the car to start.
If a driver fails to use both specifications of dry weather tyres during a race, they will be excluded from the results. If a race is suspended and can’t be restarted, and a driver has failed to use both sets of tyres, 30 seconds will be added to the driver’s race time.
The rear-wing system will be electronically governed and will only be available for activation when a driver is less than one second behind another at pre-determined points on the track. It will then be disabled once the driver brakes. The FIA hopes the system will boost overtaking opportunities during races.
Although the adjustable rear wing can be used at all times during practice sessions and qualifying, it can only be activated once a driver has completed at least two laps of the race itself. Like KERS (which will reintroduced next season after the teams agreed to suspend its use in 2010) the system won’t be compulsory.
In other changes, minimum car weight has been raised by 20kg to 640kg, to give teams running KERS more flexibility in terms of weight distribution, a second tether will be added to every wheel to improve safety and F-ducts and double diffusers have been banned.
As well as their technical revisions, the FIA have also updated the sporting regulations for 2011. Gearboxes will need to last for five races, instead of four, whilst a curfew will be imposed on team personnel connected with the operation of the cars. This will last between midnight to 6am when practice is scheduled to start at 10am, or 1am to 7am if practice is scheduled to start at 11am
The FIA's World Motor Sport Council (WMSC) has approved new regulations which will see the 2.4 litre V8s currently used by Formula One teams replaced by four cylinder 1.6 litre engines from 2013. The decision to give the go-ahead to the changes follows lengthy discussions between the FIA, engine manufacturers and specialists.
The more environmentally-friendly units are expected to deliver a 35 percent reduction in fuel consumption, whilst providing the same level of performance enjoyed by today's F1 drivers. Energy recovery systems and additional energy management will be utilised to ensure this is possible.
“The WMSC approved the introduction of a new specification engine from 2013, underlining the FIA’s commitment to improving sustainability and addressing the needs of the automotive industry,” explained the FIA. “Following dialogue with the engine manufacturers and experts in this field, the power units will be four cylinders, 1.6 litre with high pressure gasoline injection up to 500 bar.”
Rev limits on the new engines will be reduced from the current 18,000 rpm to a maximum of 12,000 rpm.
An additional revision to the 2013 regulations will see a drop in the number of engines at drivers' disposal. Currently they can use eight units a season without penalty, but this will be limited to five in 2013 and reduced to four for subsequent seasons.
Following 2010’s final meeting of its World Motor Sport Council (WMSC) in Monaco on Friday, Formula One racing’s governing body, the FIA, has outlined regulation changes that will come into force over the next three seasons.
Among the major revisions for next season are the removal of the ban on team orders, the introduction of driver-adjustable rear wings, the effective outlawing of double diffusers, stricter bodywork deflection tests and a requirement for gearboxes to last five rather than four Grand Prix weekends. The 2011 regulations are expected to be published by the FIA in their entirety soon.
Technical changes for 2012 will include the use of biomass-derived fuels and tighter suspension regulations. The biggest changes, however, will come in 2013 with the introduction of a new engine formula (see related story), replacing the current 2.4 litre V8s with 1.6 litre four-cylinder units.
Related statement from the WMSC:
A number of changes were made to the Sporting and Technical Regulations for 2011, including:
- The article forbidding team orders (39.1) is deleted. Teams will be reminded that any actions liable to bring the sport into disrepute are dealt with under Article 151c of the International Sporting Code and any other relevant provisions
- Amendments to the list of penalties Stewards are permitted to apply
- Revisions to driving and driver conduct
- A limit on the width of the fast lane in the pits
- The introduction of a regulation permitting the Race Director to close the pit lane during a race for safety reasons
- The re-introduction of intermediate tyres for 2011
- Penalties to be applied to any driver who fails to use both specification of dry weather tyre during the race
- An amendment requiring gearboxes to be used for five consecutive races, instead of four
- Clarification on when cars can overtake the safety car
- A refinement to the principles of the regulations already agreed concerning moveable rear wings
- A better definition of the reference plane, and reinforcement of bodywork deflection tests, especially at the front of the reference plane
- The allowance for anti-intrusion panels to protect drivers’ legs
Amendments to the 2012 Technical Regulations were made in the following areas:
- Team communications will be made available to broadcasters
- The inclusion of fuel compounds produced from biomass
- A limitation on suspension uprights
The major changes will be:
- Much smaller front and rear wings;
- A far greater proportion of the total downforce of the cars will be created by the underfloor, compared to the wings;
- A major reduction in the amount of total downforce created by the car;
- To achieve this, the underfloor of the cars will be shaped along its length to generate downforce for the first time since the 1982 season - currently cars have bottoms that are flat between the wheels;
- The average proportion of a lap that a driver is able to spend on full throttle to be cut from 70% in 2010 to 50% in 2013;
- Tyres will remain large and chunky to ensure cornering speeds remain high.
if anyones interested i can tell you about my experience at last years race
if anyones interested i can tell you about my experience at last years race
I'd be more interested in tickets :wink: :laugh:
Can't say I'm looking forward to MORE EJ!! :sick:
Can't say I'm looking forward to MORE EJ!! :sick:
:surprised:
i like his enthusiasm :grin:
I like his enthusiasm :grin:
.Me too! He has passion, regardless of whether one agrees with him on everything or not. He reminds me of myself at times!
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He's just like an embarrassing dad blithering on and making stuff up as he goes along!
I prefer his shirts! :grin:
The new ferrari F150 obvuiously hasnt lost is reliability woes :laugh:
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whats going on with the huge aerial/fin above the intake!!
whats going on with the huge aerial/fin above the intake!!
They had it last year in testing too -- I think (though I'm just speculating) that it's just a bigger aerial to allow them to get more data sent back to the pit lane as the testing car probably has a lot more sensors on it than normal.
Maybe its for stability? Am i right in thinking that they are using shorter rear wings, maybe its to compensate for that.
Just a guess
The new F1 season gets under way in Bahrain on March 13 and the team have a choice to make as to whether they turn to one of their reserve drivers to fill the void alongside Russia's Vitaly Petrov.
Bruno Senna, who raced for Hispania last year, and Romain Grosjean, who contested seven grands prix for Renault in 2009, are the men in the frame although the team may yet seek a more experienced head, with both Nick Heidfeld and Vitantonio Liuzzi - both of whom are without a drive in 2011 - likely candidates.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-1354782/Robert-Kubica-recovering-surgery-shocking-horror-crash.html#ixzz1DU9EiPcY
bruno senna would bring the big bucks to the team in the form of sponsorship id imagine
bruno senna would bring the big bucks to the team in the form of sponsorship id imagine
shame he cant drive though (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fserve.mysmiley.net%2Frolleye%2Frolleye0012.gif&hash=0899ede2652fed8a099ceb1b10fc7af1a055c29c)
But Clash of the Titans is on later so I can :drool: at Gemma Arterton :love:
I do but I am allowed to window shop :P
Just like she does when Johnny Depp comes on TV :sick:
to keep straying off topic i proper lust after lucy the weather babe... very healthy that is you know :evilgrin:
to keep straying off topic i proper lust after lucy the weather babe... very healthy that is you know :evilgrin:
....She has a very attractive sense of humour: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1350657/Daybreak-weather-girl-Lucy-Verasamy-left-red-faced-rude-arrows.html
I lust after her too, So does VrsCarl.
Erm does a bear sh*t in the woods?? :laugh:
Do these answer your question :wink:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14508.0.html
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,15073.0.html
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14835.msg218516.html#msg218516
Erm does a bear sh*t in the woods?? :laugh:
Do these answer your question :wink:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14508.0.html
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,15073.0.html
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,14835.msg218516.html#msg218516
Oh a worthy stalker then :signLOL: :notworthy:
There is no doubting the new MP4-26 is very different from all the other 2011 cars. Technical director Paddy Lowe has exploited to the extreme the idea of higher outer sidepods, last seen on the likes of Benetton's B195 from 1995 and Ferrari's F310 from 1996. The aim is to clean up and better direct the airflow to the beam wing at the rear of the car, an area now even more important thanks to the ban on double diffusers. This solution also gives McLaren the possibility of running Renault-style forward exhaust exits.(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.formula1.com%2Fwi%2Ffull%2Fta_article%2Fta_article_833.jpg&hash=7956bdd14af305ef9d7d12a9a0625f06b6925ce5)
7 days 11 hours 38 minutes to go :party: :jumpmove:
Is it worth going to bed :laugh:
0255-0405 Live coverage of the 3rd practice session from Melbourne, Australia with 5Live commentary.
0500-0730 Live coverage of the F1 Qualifying session from Australia with audio options
Anyone else up watching or is it just me that's mental :laugh:
Anyone else up watching or is it just me that's mental :laugh:
Yes :P
Anyone else up watching or is it just me that's mental :laugh:
Yes :P
I prefer dedicated :booty:
I wonder if Ze German is going to run away with it this season
You sense ferrari ordered massa to let gonzo past to screw up JB as well
You sense ferrari ordered massa to let gonzo past to screw up JB as well
Yup probably called the pitstop a little early so he couldn't let them past too! Even JB said as much in the post race interview! :laugh:
Following post-race checks, the Melbourne stewards decided that both Sauber C30s were in breach of technical rules 3.10.1* and 3.10.2**, in relation to their rear wings.
Petrov needs to drive for RedBull.
It gives you Wiiiiiiiiings :driver: :laugh:
what a race. i cant remember seeing another dry race with that much overtaking.
I think Vettel is on form to become the next schumacher with the titles.
Loving kobayashi as always, that guy is great. Id love to see him in a quicker car. Webber recovered that well, and chuffed massa beat alonso
Hamilton has been slapped with a 20 second penalty for aggressive driving and so has now dropped a place, massa got one too but remains sixth
What would the authority make of BTCC racing!!?
Qually 2 was excellent as well, need more like that
What a Race :congrats:
Awesome drive & Strategy by Hamilton :congrats:
Outstanding drive by Webber :congrats:
Best F1 GP i've seen for ages :pomppomp: :pomppomp:
Anyone notice Vettel wasnt smiling on the podium, and then Webber in the press conference saying well done to lewis for knocking vettel off the podium. he wasnt happy there either :grin:
I was rooting for webber to catch vettel. All he needed was another 2 laps i think. that would have been come back of the century there
I was rooting for webber to catch vettel. All he needed was another 2 laps i think. that would have been come back of the century there
....Funny, I was rooting for Webber not to make it onto the podium at all :grin:
... getting boring already. :indifferent:
^^^^
Just because Vettel is 'doing a Schumacher' and is way out in front doesn't make the rest of the racing boring.
^^^^
Just because Vettel is 'doing a Schumacher' and is way out in front doesn't make the rest of the racing boring.
^^^^
Just because Vettel is 'doing a Schumacher' and is way out in front doesn't make the rest of the racing boring.
True... but it does make for a boring competition. IMO of course.
....The competition for World Champion 2011 has a very loooong way to go. How many rounds have we had so far? - 4 with 15 more to go?
There's enough exciting racing going on each round so far regardless who has disappeared over the horizon and anyway it ain't over til it's over (or is it something about a fat lady singing? - I prefer slim ladies).
And if Vettel does win the overall prize, he deserves it on his performance so far.
How uncool are Vettel's race win celebrations?!
Gutted we couldn't see if Lewis could beat the crazy frogs time!! :sad1:
Hamilton deserves nothing from this race...agreed there, im a hamilton fanboy, but he was ragged there.
If it wasnt for the History of Monaco gp i would scrap it. The fact that vettel can stay in front of two drivers with tyres 20 laps younger goes to show how impossible it is to overtake.
Hamilton was all over the place but what would you prefer him to do sit behind the car in front thats a second slower for 78 laps, all the incidents today was because cars carnt ovetake each other even if there 1, 2, 3 seconds quicker.
GP's like Monoco they should have qualifiying then just hand the points out and forget the race.
Canada will be alot better
If it wasnt for the History of Monaco gp i would scrap it. The fact that vettel can stay in front of two drivers with tyres 20 laps younger goes to show how impossible it is to overtake.
Hamilton was all over the place but what would you prefer him to do sit behind the car in front thats a second slower for 78 laps, all the incidents today was because cars carnt ovetake each other even if there 1, 2, 3 seconds quicker.
GP's like Monoco they should have qualifiying then just hand the points out and forget the race.
Canada will be alot better
I disagree... alonso and Button couldnt overtake because they were off his pace, its not like they were both all over the back of him is it!
Lewis Hamilton is going to be in bigggggg trouble after that interview with Lee Mckenzie !
Lewis Hamilton is going to be in bigggggg trouble after that interview with Lee Mckenzie !
What did he say? I switched off in disgrace.
If it wasnt for the History of Monaco gp i would scrap it. The fact that vettel can stay in front of two drivers with tyres 20 laps younger goes to show how impossible it is to overtake.
Hamilton was all over the place but what would you prefer him to do sit behind the car in front thats a second slower for 78 laps, all the incidents today was because cars carnt ovetake each other even if there 1, 2, 3 seconds quicker.
GP's like Monoco they should have qualifiying then just hand the points out and forget the race.
Canada will be alot better
I disagree... alonso and Button couldnt overtake because they were off his pace, its not like they were both all over the back of him is it!
What race was you watching :confused: so just before the last safety car Alsonso was no where near Vettel then no, becuase i thought they were right behind him and its also weird that button can pit and in the course of about 6 laps make up 19 seconds on Vettel.
Yeah no where near his pace :confused:
The point i was making is there is no way Vettel would have been able to keep his lead on over circuits in the same circumstances he would have been left for dead and that is blatantly obvious.
Hamilton was VERY rough today, but I think it was only out of frustration more than anything. Monaco is as much a high society event now as an F1 event and I too agree that there are plenty of other tracks that would be a better track to race on, BUT no where near as good an event as the Monaco setting. Monaco should stay :driver: :star:
So when is Vettels luck gonna run out and when are Mclaren gonna stop making stupid decisions???
Lewis Hamilton is going to be in bigggggg trouble after that interview with Lee Mckenzie !
If it wasnt for the History of Monaco gp i would scrap it. The fact that vettel can stay in front of two drivers with tyres 20 laps younger goes to show how impossible it is to overtake.
Hamilton was all over the place but what would you prefer him to do sit behind the car in front thats a second slower for 78 laps, all the incidents today was because cars carnt ovetake each other even if there 1, 2, 3 seconds quicker.
GP's like Monoco they should have qualifiying then just hand the points out and forget the race.
Canada will be alot better
I disagree... alonso and Button couldnt overtake because they were off his pace, its not like they were both all over the back of him is it!
What race was you watching :confused: so just before the last safety car Alsonso was no where near Vettel then no, becuase i thought they were right behind him and its also weird that button can pit and in the course of about 6 laps make up 19 seconds on Vettel.
Yeah no where near his pace :confused:
The point i was making is there is no way Vettel would have been able to keep his lead on over circuits in the same circumstances he would have been left for dead and that is blatantly obvious.
Agree with you there Rob. Until he caught Alonso & Vettel Jenson was 1.5 Secs a lap quicker on the same tyres due to how much newer they were. Plus when he did get out in front and had clean air he pulled out a 14 sec lead (granted he was on Super Softs)
Monaco is becoming a bit of a joke and is frustrating for fans. I think they should scrap the chicane out of the tunnel and just make that part of the lap have a slight right hand curve. At least then there would be an overtaking opportunity.
Lewis's comments post race will travel beyond F1 media tomorrow. He's played a card I never thought he would use. Understandably frustrated
If only Massa allowed Hamilton the same space as Hamilton did for Schumi on the first lap! :innocent:
If only Massa allowed Hamilton the same space as Hamilton did for Schumi on the first lap! :innocent:
....The filming from above suggests that Massa would have collided with the third car slightly ahead but to his righthand side if he had moved across for Hamilton. I don't remember who the third driver was.
So, Vettel on pole again... :indifferent:
Dunno what you've been watching but Lewis was driving like an idiot really. Does he think Jenson could see him with all that sorry? On the replays from the wall cam all the cars took a diagonal line from that exit towards the cam before going right. Jenson was just going on the racing line. Lewis put his car in the wrong place once again. He needs to think about his current driving standards. Webber gave him room yet he somehow understeered to tip webber round
Is this just me been biased or are people just simply turning into Lewis when ever he puts his car in a position to overtake, both Micheal and jenson did the same thing.
Lewis clearly had the drive on jenson and the speed but he simply turned into him and know doubt lewis will be penalised for that, Micheal did a very similar thing.
Also why do these amazing drivers need a safety car to drive them round a track when it rains surely its up to them to drive to the conditions. Ok if its a terential downpour then stop the race but the minute it started raining the safety car came out. What next a safety car on the M62 when theres some rain???
Starting the race under safety car when it was hardly raining wtf
What is going on, this is pafetic???
Rant over lol.
Dunno what you've been watching but Lewis was driving like an idiot really. Does he think Jenson could see him with all that sorry? On the replays from the wall cam all the cars took a diagonal line from that exit towards the cam before going right. Jenson was just going on the racing line. Lewis put his car in the wrong place once again. He needs to think about his current driving standards. Webber gave him room yet he somehow understeered to tip webber round
Dunno what you've been watching but Lewis was driving like an idiot really. Does he think Jenson could see him with all that sorry? On the replays from the wall cam all the cars took a diagonal line from that exit towards the cam before going right. Jenson was just going on the racing line. Lewis put his car in the wrong place once again. He needs to think about his current driving standards. Webber gave him room yet he somehow understeered to tip webber round
Also why do these amazing drivers need a safety car to drive them round a track when it rains surely its up to them to drive to the conditions. Ok if its a terential downpour then stop the race but the minute it started raining the safety car came out. What next a safety car on the M62 when theres some rain???
so should you wait until someone hits the barrier?
fair pointso should you wait until someone hits the barrier?
As long as it's Alonso yes :evilgrin:
so should you wait until someone hits the barrier?
As long as it's Alonso yes :evilgrin:
so should you wait until someone hits the barrier?
As long as it's Alonso yes :evilgrin:
+1
I'd like to see Vettel be challenged but I'd like to see teflonso out of the game more.
so should you wait until someone hits the barrier?
As long as it's Alonso yes :evilgrin:
+1
-1
If anyone can challenge Vettel at the moment it's Alonso.
Bye bye Alonso :congrats:
I'm turning off. I've wasted enough of my life today as it is.
JB to pass webber while he tussles with MSch??
Lets hope :party:
there's still the investigation after the race tho.
will they take the win away from him?
FIA at the ready.
I wonder how many cars Jenson overtook today? :popcornsoda:
Is it me or is DRS spoiling it?
Is it me or is DRS spoiling it?
I wonder how many cars Jenson overtook today? :popcornsoda:
All of them!! :jumpmove: :jumpmove:
Hamilton = cock :booty:
I wonder how many cars Jenson overtook today? :popcornsoda:
All of them!! :jumpmove: :jumpmove:
Yes but how many times.
Fair play JB. :congrats:
Hamilton = cock :booty:
I wouldnt say so, id say that was jensons fault personally. Hamilton and Kobayashi are by far the most entertaining drivers to watch followed by Button, petrov, webber etc Schumacher was good today hopefully he'll keep that up.
Vettels to clinical and always in front so hes boring at the moment. First time hes made a mistake during a race this season
Still buzzing from those last few laps, so exciting!!
My comment wasnt related to todays race, but just him in general.
Still buzzing from those last few laps, so exciting!!
I woke my daughter up when vettel lost it. the missus isnt happy with me for it :grin:My comment wasnt related to todays race, but just him in general.
Im a Mclaren fanboy or basically anyone thats not Alonso or Vettel :grin:
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Brilliant race. Button of course, but also Schumi did well. I think the BBC commentators did very well too - Filled in how many extra hours of just talk?
This is assuming that Webber and Vettel both have the same car.
I am a fan of Webber as he speaks his mind but not of Vettel. I stopped watching F1 during the Schumacher years as it became a procession the only thing that keeps me watching now isLee McKenziethe hope that he fluffs it and Lewis and Jenson take advantage.
I do like Vettel (not his biggest fan) even if he does have an annoying celebration.
But i don't think he is a good a driver as that car is making him. I hope i'm proved wrong but i think we may see a degredation of his talents at Silverstone and beyond with the banning of off throttle air being blown over the defuser.
I would like to see Hamilton partner him next year too as i think then he will get a run for his money.
I stopped watching F1 during the Schumacher years as it became a procession the only thing that keeps me watching now is Lee McKenzie
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/13953045.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/13953045.stm)
Bit optimistic...................
Come on Massa........ :driver:
2 laps in which to catch LH
SV what a chap! He came across so well on TG. :congrats: :congrats: :grin:
Chuffed for webber and hamilton. Quality qualifying today
Is Vettel the only world champion that needs his pit crew to overtake for him :grin: :grin: :grin: and Massa of all people haha Vettel you fraud!
Happy for SV. 85 points :driver:.
Not a JB fan :indifferent:
I agree with that comparison of Hamilton v Button.
Both are fantastic on their day but if it's not Jenson's day then it doesn't happen at all, sadly.
Lewis on the other hand will still go at it and try and drive the wheels off the car. :driver:
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An excellent season so far. I also enjoyed last season very much and it makes it even more annoying that SkyTV is sticking its oar in! :fighting: But that's discussed in another thread here.
What the hell was Maldonado doing?!?! :stupid:
I know Lewis tapped him but the retaliation is a bit much??
I'm not anti-Hamilton but I'm not convinced only one car made a change of direction. OK Maldonaldo hit him but...
i think the drive into the wall made lewis alittle bit concused!!, BBC interview dueing the race, and he was all over the place with his words!
Hamilton has 2 crashes in one race event, this is becoming a habit now, no wonder he is massively disliked by the other drivers, he yet again showed his arrogance by thinking he was past kobayashi and drove into him.
Hamilton has 2 crashes in one race event, this is becoming a habit now, no wonder he is massively disliked by the other drivers, he yet again showed his arrogance by thinking he was past kobayashi and drove into him.
....Really? Other than some very arrogant young Italian driver whose name begins with "M", who would these other drivers be?
Clearly you don't like Lewis Hamilton.
Why's he crying? Has he never won a GP before?
Why's he crying? Has he never won a GP before?
My word, he's such a geek
My word, he's such a geek
Thought button drove well
Really enjoyed the race :grin:
Well done Button :congrats: :drinking: 3rd in the championship now too! :happy2:
As for Vettel :surprised: he is the next F1 legend in the making as long as hes driving Adrian Newey's cars :innocent:
Really enjoyed the race :grin:
Well done Button :congrats: :drinking: 3rd in the championship now too! :happy2:
As for Vettel :surprised: he is the next F1 legend in the making as long as hes driving Adrian Newey's cars :innocent:
Editied that for you :booty:
Really enjoyed the race :grin:
Well done Button :congrats: :drinking: 3rd in the championship now too! :happy2:
As for Vettel :surprised: he is the next F1 legend in the making as long as hes driving Adrian Newey's cars :innocent:
Editied that for you :booty:
Very clever edit my friend :happy2: and so true :signLOL:
Adrian Newey is a F1 GOD!!!!!!!
Looks like the Title will be over tomorrow. Gotta hand it to Vettel he has driven brilliantly this season especially in qualifying and Adrian Newey has made an 'orsum car. :driver:
I have also taken to him this season as he has matured a hell of a lot, he was brilliant on top gear, has been very good in pre/post race interviews and it makes a change for a Boxhead to have a sense of humour and personality.
I watched an interview with Schumacher and Coulthard today. Schumacher is just soooo wooden and fcuking boring. :indifferent:
Who will be second in this year's championship though? :party:
Think button drove very very well too
Hamilton drives into somebody yet again, ruining their race :mad:
This just days after 'issuing a warning' to Mclaren that they need to improve the car to keep him as one of their drivers :grin: doubt any of the other top teams would want him. I say mclaren should kick him to the curb and give Paul De Resta a drive.
Button was faultless :congrats:
All it takes is one mistake, look at the pro drivers that manage to race competitively and finish races in high positions.
Lewis has has far too many 'racing incidents' by driving into people and a lot of the other drivers seem to be commenting on it, the presenters on BBC all say the same thing, the F1 mags and forums can see it. How can he ask for a quicker car? He cant get to the end of a race without smashing bits off it!
Then hes not even open and honest about things and looks to blame others whenever he can. Massa was on course for a good finish today and not even an apology from Lewis for ruining that. F1 is a small community and it seems he doesnt have many friends left. Having a dig at his team for not making his car competitive enough is a sure fire way of losing the few that he does have around him.
I think the only current F1 driver known to have deliberately driven into people is the other Boxhead, Shoemaker. :driver: :fighting:
Vettel on pole again. :congrats: :congrats:
Is Vettel the only world champion that needs his pit crew to overtake for him :grin: :grin: :grin: and Massa of all people haha Vettel you fraud!
Is Vettel the only world champion that needs his pit crew to overtake for him :grin: :grin: :grin: and Massa of all people haha Vettel you fraud!
Seems by your previous reply - JB is a fraud?
Taken from the BBC website
After the first round of stops, Button had been slowly eating into Vettel's lead and took his revenge at the second round of pit stops when he made up a second in time in the pit lane and emerged ahead of the Red Bull on track.
Anyhow SV #1, glad a Brit was on podium, but very glad SV won the title.
I'm a big Jenson Button fan but his biggest problem is that he needs a perfect car to get results. He can't make a bad car work. Whereas Alonso has got consistent results from a very poor car.
In my opinion I dont think Hamilton is being sarcastic, there is no doubt there has been a change in his demeanor but I think this is more to do with him believing he is "damned if you do, damned if you don't" so he is staying quiet and trying to stay out of trouble.
I cant see him going anywhere, he will back to himself at the start of next season refreshed and hopefully with a competitive car!
Don't think articles like this http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2049953/Lewis-Hamilton-Nicole-Scherzingers-relationship-hits-rocky-patch.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2049953/Lewis-Hamilton-Nicole-Scherzingers-relationship-hits-rocky-patch.html) are helping Lewis at the moment
He has been trying to push everything to the limit driving and yet he always gets punished by the stewards.
Vettel wasn't punished by the stewards on Sat for cutting out part of the track so that he could get back to his pit with enough time to get a final lap out, Would they have let Liewis get away with it :fighting:
If he is like any normal red-blooded male he will still have the videos and pictures to console himself with. :evilgrin:
If Lewis is like any NORMAL red blooded bloke then I don't think he would be happy splitting up with her :confused: :grin:
If Lewis is like any NORMAL red blooded bloke then I don't think he would be happy splitting up with her :confused: :grin:
....What's "normal"?
For example, I've always got over any initial disappointments of a split very quickly indeed. There's never any point moping over the past and if a relationship isn't two-way there's absolutely no point continuing. The fact that Lewis has such a potentially big choice can only help.
I'd be tempted to think she was his first proper girlfriend, so he doesn't have the experience to brush it aside, regardless of the potential ahead of him.
Strong rumours going around today that Kimi Raikkonen will be driving for Williams next year. Will be great to see him back in F1, one of my favourite drivers.
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My heart just sinks when SV takes pole again!!
My heart just sinks when SV takes pole again!!
....Why? He's a great driver and wins pole positions by driving faster than his competitors and also races. You Brits love to tear someone down after they achieve success.
I'd be tempted to think she was his first proper girlfriend, so he doesn't have the experience to brush it aside, regardless of the potential ahead of him.
Don't label me Robin and bring out the 'You Brits' comments! I expect better from you!
I'm with greeners on this... It's just a little bit too predictable. Yes he is a good driver and yes his car is superb, but it's still makes it a bit tedious.
I felt gutted for Karun Chandhok today, when Jake and EJ mentioned that he wouldn't be driving at the first Indian GP I thought the poor lad was about to cry. :sad1:
The romantic/idiotic side of me was hoping that he'd somehow get the chance given that the team have very little to lose right now and who knows, maybe some wealthy Indian outfit might reward them with a sponsorship deal.
People seem to forget with F1 that the car is THE difference. The only true way you would ever find who is the fastest driver would be if the FIA went to one manufacturer and said this is the specs for the engine, chassis, aerodynamics etc. Build 24 identical cars and we mean identical. That is the only way you would ever have an even playing field but it will never happen and nor would I want it to.
Look at the McLaren vs RedBull. McLaren has far better mechanical grip so does better accelerating away from slow corners. However get on a track with a few medium to high speed corners and the RedBull (which has superior aero than anything on the track let alone the McLaren) just storms away.
Part of the attraction of F1 is seeing how the teams can build and manipulate a car to try and give their driver the edge over the others. RedBull have got Adrian Newey, who is a modern day Colin Chapman, and he can interpret the regulations ether than any other team to give Vettel the edge.
I don't dispute that Vettel is talented. He has to be to produce the results. It's just that his team have given him a better set of tools to use than anyone else.
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I agree with Greenstuff about the Massa vs Hamilton incident. The stewards got it right in my opinion.
I also agree with QD about the factors why SV is a winner. It's further backed up by the fact that SV consistently beats his team mate MW.
Plus I agree with Andrew: Excellent TV coverage and Incredible India !! The circuit promised so much but this time the racing was dull - No-one's fault, it's how the cookie crumbles.
Regardless of final finishing positions it wasn't an exciting race. I thought the off circuit tv was far more entertaining, especially those Indian dancing babes in Dehli :love:. Loved Eddie's traditional shirt - It really suited him and he looked a bit like John Lennon. Seb Vettel was brilliant on the Red Button aftershow with Lee McKenzie when offering everybody her phone number - Great banter all round. Schumi is so wooden and Prussian compared with Seb who is much more typically Bavarian and fun.
It annoyed me that Schumi didn't remove his hat during the pre-race minute of silence in tribute. Why didn't someone nudge him - I would have done!
Agreed on all points! The track does look awesome but the race was pretty dull (the only exciting thing was when my freeview box conked out at lap 40!) but all the pre race build up and little segments about India were really well done. The forum has been pretty good over the last few races and love how Vettel flirts with Lee McKenzie at every interview but I would be happy to have her phone number :-)
I think it was mentioned before by Brundle that Schumi is not as open as Vettel due to some event when he was younger that made him more of a closed person but that is life, people are different.
Alex
It's the voice as well Robin, like having warm honey poured on your wedding vegetables. :love:
It's the voice as well Robin, like having warm honey poured on your wedding vegetables. :love:
McLaren boss Martin Whitmarsh is pinning some of the blame for Lewis Hamilton's string of clashes with Felipe Massa on Jenson Button's form.
Hamilton and Massa collided again during Sunday's Indian Grand Prix as Button finished second behind winner Sebastian Vettel.
"Lewis, the great, exciting driver that he is, will not like being beaten by Jenson," said Whitmarsh.
"For any driver, the first driver you want to beat is your team-mate."
Hamilton, the 2008 world champion, came home seventh in India after his chances of a podium finish were ruined by a crash while trying to pass Massa on lap 24.
Massa was adjudged to be in the wrong, receiving a drive-through penalty before retiring later in the race after hitting a kerb and damaging the front suspension on his Ferrari.
Button, meanwhile, finished second behind world champion Vettel to consolidate his second place in the championship, 38 points ahead of fellow Briton Hamilton, who is fifth behind Ferrari's Fernando Alonso and Red Bull's Mark Webber.
Button, the 2009 world champion, has recorded three wins and been on the podium 10 times this season.
Hamilton has scored two victories of his own but also picked up six penalties, including a three-place grid drop in India for ignoring caution flags.
McLaren team principal Whitmarsh added: "Lewis will be feeling under pressure because of the great performances from Jenson at the moment.
"I don't want him to enjoy being beaten by his team-mate. I want him to try to beat Jenson, just as I want Jenson to try to beat Lewis."
Whitmarsh added that he felt Massa was also struggling to come to terms with the dominant form of Ferrari team-mate Alonso.
A bad year for Lewis - Anthony Hamilton
"Felipe is under enormous pressure within that team and that causes him to react," he said.
Hamilton, who recently split with long-time girlfriend Nicole Scherzinger, has suffered a number of disappointments this season.
Asked whether he felt Hamilton had been too hard on himself, Whitmarsh replied: "Yes, I do frankly. I have told him on several occasions, 'Don't apologise, you're a racing driver. If you've made a mistake, accept it, learn from it and move on'.
"He is very analytical. He's very serious about trying to do the best job he can.
"He's much too hard on himself but I've known Lewis for a long, long time and he has always been like that since he was in karts. That's his way, that's his psychology and that's how he motivates himself.
"His body language this weekend has been much more positive than for the last races.
"He has all the skills. We saw him qualify and race fantastically at the last race [in Korea, where he finished second] and qualify fantastically here. It can change."
The latest clash between Hamilton and Massa came on lap 24 of the race at the Buddh International Circuit.
The two touched as Hamilton dived down the inside of his Brazilian rival at Turn Five.
The nose of Hamilton's car was damaged in the incident, forcing him to pit, but Massa managed to continue.
The pair had previously banged wheels in Monaco and Singapore, resulting in a drive-through penalty for the McLaren star on each occasion.
Hamilton, who pipped Massa to the world title in 2008, has admitted the relationship between the two drivers is not good - but Whitmarsh rejected suggestions he and Ferrari should organise a meeting to clear the air.
"They're men, they've got to figure it out for themselves," said the McLaren chief, who said he had spoken to Ferrari about the pair.
Felipe Massa says he is not going to do any more to heal his rift with Lewis Hamilton after their latest clash at the Indian Grand Prix.
McLaren's Hamilton, already punished for two previous incidents between them, collided with Massa's Ferrari but it was the Brazilian who was penalised.
When asked what he could do to end the feud, Massa said: "Nothing from me."
Hamilton added: "He hasn't spoken to me in a long, long time. I made an effort and said good luck for the race."
Massa confirmed that the British driver had spoken to him on the grid after all 24 drivers observed a minute's silence in India to mark the deaths of Dan Wheldon and Marco Simoncelli.
But Massa, who lost the 2008 world title to Hamilton, said the Briton's comments were not a form of apology.
"Here after the one-minute silence he was [at] my side and he just said 'have a good race'," Massa explained.
"So this is trying to what? 'Have a good race' is not part of talking or whatever."
Hamilton and Massa have clashed in a number of incidents this season, most notably in Monaco and Singapore, where Hamilton was blamed by officials and received drive-through penalties.
After the Singapore GP, the pair had an altercation in the media zone when Massa attempted to speak to Hamilton and he responded: "Don't touch me, man."
Referring to the post-race incident in Singapore, Massa said: "When I felt it was already too much what he was doing, he didn't want to speak to me."
But he added: "I don't have anything against him - nothing, zero."
Massa was clearly frustrated with the decision to penalise him, rather than Hamilton, for their coming together in India as they battled for fifth place.
Hamilton dived down the inside of Massa at the fast Turn Five but after the pair made contact the stewards ruled that the Brazilian had made a move instead of leaving room for Hamilton to pass.
But Massa argued: "My view is that I braked later than him, I was in front, I was on the grippy area and then I started to turn and I don't see him on my left.
"He is behind and then he touched my rear wheel. To be honest, I don't understand why I have the penalty."
When pressed for further explanation, Massa said: "I didn't do anything wrong. When I see he put the car on my side, I braked on the clean side and he was behind me. If he was wheel-to-wheel I would not try to close the door."
In discussing the stewards' reasoning, Massa commented: "They were not so sure as well."
Hamilton had signalled his view of the incident immediately on the pit-to-car radio, saying: "Felipe just turned in on me. He didn't give me any space."
He added after the race: "I tried to overtake, I tried to come out of it because he didn't look like he was going to give me any space, but we collided."
And his overall verdict on his weekend was succinct. "Disappointed would be an understatement," he said.
McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh agreed Hamilton's race was "disappointing".
Whitmarsh said: "He and Felipe Massa are magnetic, they come together, but the stewards made a clear decision. It hurt Lewis - he had to come in and change tyres, his car was damaged but he had the discipline to bring it home for some points.
"Massa turned in and Lewis didn't have a chance. I'm sure others will feel differently. Lewis had a three-place penalty, I think he can do a better job than he is at the moment.
"He has two races left to demonstrate that he is a great racing driver."[
HAMILTON V MASSA IN 2011
May 2011 - The pair bang wheels at the hairpin during the Monaco GP with Hamilton picking up a drive-through penalty
September 2011 - In qualifying for the Singapore GP, the duo nearly collide as they try to find clear air for their flying laps
September 2011 - In the race, Hamilton turns into Massa. The Brazilian suffers a puncture while Hamilton is handed a drive-through penalty
October 2011 - The two drivers have a minor brush at Suzuka with Hamilton accepting responsibility. The stewards take no action.
October 2011 - They are involved in a heavy collision in India, with Massa handed a drive-through penalty for turning in on Hamilton./quote]
It's the voice as well Robin, like having warm honey poured on your wedding vegetables. :love:
This season will do L.H good in the long run. He will be strong next year. Id suggest button doesnt get to comfortable as the percieved number 1 driver, regardless of mclaren building a car more biased towards his driving style if you believe the reports
Just hope Lewis knocks that cocky little "Schumacher wannabe" off his perch next year :happy2:
Anyone else notice the girl standing behind Paul Di Resta when he was getting interviewed :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:
I'm more excited to see Kimi back in F1 than I was when Schumi returned. That always had a whiff of anticlimax about it, whereas I think Kimi could be genuinely competitive, given a half decent car.
I'm more excited to see Kimi back in F1 than I was when Schumi returned. That always had a whiff of anticlimax about it, whereas I think Kimi could be genuinely competitive, given a half decent car.
If I was given a competitive car....... no wait, hold on a minute, scrub that. :wink:
If I was given a competitive car....... no wait, hold on a minute, scrub that. :wink:
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Thanks, Carl :drinking:
If a Thank You button was available on this section I would give you one.
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Thanks, Carl :drinking:
If a Thank You button was available on this section I would give you one.
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Really not liking the look of any of this years cars.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/16872627
Really not liking the look of any of this years cars.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/16872627
No the 'step' makes them look fugly!! :confused: Glad the McLaren does without! :happy2:
Really not liking the look of any of this years cars.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/16872627
No the 'step' makes them look fugly!! :confused: Glad the McLaren does without! :happy2:
x2 but i wonder why they have and what difference not having one will make
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Cool pics! :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:
What the heck are those vertical 'fins' sticking out the top of the Ferrari and McLaren?