MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Technical Workshop => Topic started by: rubber toe on March 22, 2009, 04:55:54 pm
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my KO4 just arrived and was wandering what different stages of tuning there is and what parts are required .
also what kinda power to expect from these different stages
thanks :happy2:
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im no expert but its along the lines of;
revo stage 1 = nothing needed, intake recommended = 300-310ish
stage 2, intake, zorst, dv, fuel pump recommended - 310-330..
stage 3, above and other bits :p 330+
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cheers :happy2:
eventually(sp) looking for about 350/360bhp any ideas how ?
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cheers :happy2:
eventually(sp) looking for about 350/360bhp any ideas how ?
I think Revo now do a map specifically for people who have upgraded to a KO 4 also you could get close to 350 with the KO 4 :smiley: you would also need the fuel pump and possibly the intercooler and intake + the obligatory turbo back zorst.
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cheers :happy2:
eventually(sp) looking for about 350/360bhp any ideas how ?
Make sure you have lots of money and that you own the car outright (not on finance or anything like that).
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good to know thanks :happy2:
need to start saving :laugh:
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my KO4 just arrived and was wandering what different stages of tuning there is and what parts are required .
also what kinda power to expect from these different stages
thanks :happy2:
Do you mean you are upgrading to a K04 on a K03 platform or have you just bought an ED30?
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upgrading from KO3 to K04 :smiley:
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Revo Stage one around 280 not over 300. Stage 1 map will give gains of around 40bhp but add aftermarket exhaust, add another 10%
Depending on which rollers you run it on of course :wink:
SteveS's other quotes on other stages are about correct. are on average correct.Stage 2+ will get 325-335 approx.
If your looking for 360bhp,Stage 3, look at JonnyC's build thread and start thinking of buying a winning lotto ticket to get the figure you crave. :happy2:
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upgrading from KO3 to K04 :smiley:
I think you should be careful and not be too power hungry as the cylinder rods may not be able to cope and bend>mucho dinero to fix.
the rods on an ed30 are uprated when compared with the standard gti engine so it can cope with the higher hp/torque.
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upgrading from KO3 to K04 :smiley:
Excellent :happy2:
I am planning on dong exactly the same on my A3 :smiley:
Have you purchased a specific kit like APR's? I'll be very interested to hear how you get on so keep us updated.
Realistically I think the maximum you will see is about 310 BHP. I don't think you will be able to get into the 330+ numbers that the regular ED30 boys are seeing. I think the main reason for this is the different CAMs which the ED30 has. However you could always upgrade the CAMs too :grin:
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Revo Stage one around 280 not over 300. Stage 1 map will give gains of around 40bhp but add aftermarket exhaust, add another 10%
yea my quotes were on an ed30, considering you have a ko4... all ed30s are coming around 300 plus a few..?
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upgrading from KO3 to K04 :smiley:
I think you should be careful and not be too power hungry as the cylinder rods may not be able to cope and bend>mucho dinero to fix.
the rods on an ed30 are uprated when compared with the standard gti engine so it can cope with the higher hp/torque.
wise words :happy2:
thats the eventual plan anyways so its still a bit away
think i'll be happy with the turbo upgrade :smiley:
for now :evilgrin:
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upgrading from KO3 to K04 :smiley:
I think you should be careful and not be too power hungry as the cylinder rods may not be able to cope and bend>mucho dinero to fix.
the rods on an ed30 are uprated when compared with the standard gti engine so it can cope with the higher hp/torque.
wise words :happy2:
thats the eventual plan anyways so its still a bit away
think i'll be happy with the turbo upgrade :smiley:
for now :evilgrin:
Revo has a TT with this mod and is highly tuned as well. It also gets hammered on a regular basis and has not missed a beat by all accounts. :smiley:
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Revo has a TT with this mod and is highly tuned as well. It also gets hammered on a regular basis and has not missed a beat by all accounts. :smiley:
had read that std gti engine internals could handle up to 370bhp but cant remember where tho :ashamed:
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TC kicks in costantly with much less, let alone 370... i wish i could turn it off properly!
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TC kicks in costantly with much less, let alone 370... i wish i could turn it off properly!
yeah thats where a lot of money has to be spent on supporting mods brakes, suspension, diffs etc
"power is nothing without control" and all that :smiley:
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Why seek such big power on a FWD car when you'll also be potentially stressing everything else unless you spend serious money on internals etc?
Either trade in for an Ed30 or 'do a jonnyc' and strip the car etc.
Even VWRacing's K04'd GTI 'only' pushes out about 330 bhp and is hugely helped by its Quaife and suspension, brakes etc. Get a Quaife diff!
You need driveability - All year round - You live in the UK!