MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Russ_leeds on September 03, 2011, 04:57:33 pm

Title: Datalogging session done
Post by: Russ_leeds on September 03, 2011, 04:57:33 pm
A big thanks to nasir for logging my car for me :notworthy:
He's gonna post the logs up later on. I'm getting a missuer on cylinder 4
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: robdf2 on September 03, 2011, 07:16:07 pm
y
A big thanks to nasir for logging my car for me :notworthy:
He's gonna post the logs up later on. I'm getting a missuer on cylinder 4

Ah the old french missfire  :rolleye:
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: bacillus on September 03, 2011, 07:20:13 pm
Did he try swapping cylinder 4 coilpack with one of the others and re-logging your misfire count?

How much mileage on your present plugs?
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on September 03, 2011, 07:22:37 pm
Did he try swapping cylinder 4 coilpack with one of the others and re-logging your misfire count?

How much mileage on your present plugs?

TFSIs eating plugs and coilpacks for breakfast again?  :rolleye:
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: Scousus maximus on September 03, 2011, 07:32:11 pm
y
A big thanks to nasir for logging my car for me :notworthy:
He's gonna post the logs up later on. I'm getting a missuer on cylinder 4

Ah the old french missfire  :rolleye:

Straight out of "Allo Allo", a brilliant series if ever there was one. :laugh:

Regards,
John
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: Russ_leeds on September 03, 2011, 07:57:27 pm
Hahaha bloody iPhone! We took the connector of both the end coilpacks as wasn't sure which one is 1 and which is 4. When we took the leads off either 1 the car ran lumpy. It's on 56k on original plugs
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: bacillus on September 03, 2011, 08:06:15 pm
It's on 56k on original plugs

Change your plugs first.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: Nasir on September 03, 2011, 08:13:47 pm
Bacillus is right, I'd first swap the coilpacks around and log again.....should have thought of that :ashamed:

The plugs will need to be changed sooner rather than later as he said.

One thing to note is that the boost actual was considerably higher than requested, I put this down to it being mapped? I am about to post the scan results of the car.
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: Nasir on September 03, 2011, 09:01:55 pm
No point posting the whole thing, just 1 fault on the engine.

Address 01: Engine       

1 Fault Found:
001089 - EVAP Emission Control Sys: Incorrect Flow
               P0441 - 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 29
                    Mileage: 81514 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 23:12:06

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 758 /min
                    Load: 16.1 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 87.0°C
                    Temperature: 33.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.097 V

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/16825/P0441/001089, fault frequency 29 so there is clearly a problem. However it did not return after a short run and it worked on the output test.
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on September 03, 2011, 09:09:00 pm

Looks like a fault I read about recently,

I think its the charcoal canister fault, a cause being 'brimming' the tank to the top

VrsCarl mentioned it before
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: martziniuk on September 03, 2011, 10:22:58 pm
I had that fault code and replaced the charcoal canister, the fault code has never returned. This code should not affect the running of the car, it's just emmisions rubbish. 
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: Russ_leeds on September 04, 2011, 12:32:01 am
cheers yeah ill get some new plugs on monday and see if that sorts it :popcornsoda:
how much are charcoal canisters?
when we logged the boost the actual was miles higher than the requested i cant remember the values but i was a bit concerned by this :confused:
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: Nasir on September 04, 2011, 11:09:50 am
Yes the logs showed the boost actual was always higher than requested. I can't remember the units but it was 1000 (mBar?) even at idle when it was requesting 400mbar. I think this could be down the remap but somebody with more experience will have to comment.
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: martziniuk on September 04, 2011, 12:09:19 pm

how much are charcoal canisters?
Mine was £69 + vat from Skoda in 2010
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: Russ_leeds on September 04, 2011, 07:07:39 pm
cheers. what would cause such a big difference in boost actual to requested?
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: bacillus on September 04, 2011, 07:37:51 pm
cheers. what would cause such a big difference in boost actual to requested?

If you are not the original owner then the previous owner may have tweaked the oem actuator pre-tension or replaced it with a forge one.
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: Nasir on September 04, 2011, 07:48:10 pm
cheers. what would cause such a big difference in boost actual to requested?

If you are not the original owner then the previous owner may have tweaked the oem actuator pre-tension or replaced it with a forge one.

The previous owner was a woman :signLOL:
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: Russ_leeds on September 04, 2011, 07:53:25 pm
Yeah one previous owner was a woman so doubt it's been tampered with. Could this cause any damage?
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: bacillus on September 04, 2011, 08:29:17 pm
What sort of boost are you seeing bearing in mind that the standard gti map sensor can only measure pressure up to 2580mbar as seen in vcds?
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: Russ_leeds on September 04, 2011, 09:05:17 pm
iirc the requested was about 400 and the actual was 999 on idle
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: bacillus on September 04, 2011, 09:11:32 pm
iirc the requested was about 400 and the actual was 999 on idle

Any chance you could post the boost logged data?
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: Russ_leeds on September 04, 2011, 09:15:45 pm
unfortunately the log didnt save for some reason :sad1:
fuel rail pressure was matched all through the rev range
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: heavyd on September 04, 2011, 10:20:11 pm
990 is fine on idle. its the actual atmospheric pressure. I dont think I've ever seen it go any lower than that

What sort of boost are you seeing bearing in mind that the standard gti map sensor can only measure pressure up to 2580mbar as seen in vcds?

Strange, I have logs that show actual boost as  2860mb :stupid:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb150%2Fheavyd123%2Funtitled.jpg&hash=5f10cbe8fab02e6b18505c724f016d5363ef312f)

Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: Russ_leeds on September 04, 2011, 10:56:29 pm
good to hear cheers mate
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: bacillus on September 04, 2011, 11:13:39 pm
Strange, I have logs that show actual boost as  2860mb :stupid:

The standard gti has a 2.5mbar map sensor. iirc the ed30 has a 3mbar one.
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: mortygttdi on September 04, 2011, 11:48:43 pm
The boost will always sit at 1000mbar the requested is only a minimum :happy2: i.e boost limit too low...

On a mapped car it would probably show 2540mbar at max on VCDS, your car is fine Russ just get the plugs changed and or the coilpacks, VW will do the coils under warranty re the recall notice.

Darren
Title: Re: Datalogging session done
Post by: Russ_leeds on September 05, 2011, 08:28:12 am
cheers darren :happy2: unfortunately when i phoned vw about the coilpack recall its not included as its a late 07 plate :sad1: