MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: markymark on March 31, 2009, 04:19:50 pm
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http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/234824/volkswagen_golf_gtd.html
Say hello to the Volkswagen Golf GTD - the first high-performance diesel version of the all new MkVI hatch.
Aiming to earn a reputation as the GTI of diesels – and this car's unveiling follows closely behind the launch of the brand-new petrol-powered GTI, which we got behind the wheel of here.
Power is delivered from VW’s familiar 2.0-litre turbodiesel unit - but here it’s tweaked to produce 168bhp and a substantial 350Nm of torque. Not headline figures by any means, compared to the GTI’s 207bhp and 280Nm, but when you consider peak torque is available between 1,750rpm and 2,500rpm the in-gear acceleration should feel just as fast.
And that’s reflected in the performance figures. The 0-62mph dash is dispatched in just 8.1 seconds – less than a second behind the GTI - while the top speed is 138mph. Power is transmitted to the front wheels through VW’s optional six-speed DSG gearbox - a six-speed manual is standard kit.
But this car’s fuel-sipping nature is the real talking point. Claimed fuel economy on the combined cycle is a heady 44.4mpg - a significant difference when compared to the GTI’s more thirsty 31mpg. CO2 emissions are just as impressive at 139g/km, putting it in the £120-a-year tax band C.
VW is also looking to lay the myth that diesel engines can't offer a sporty soundtrack to rest with the GTD. Engineers have fine tuned the car’s acoustics using an innovative solution.
An electromagnetic sound generator evaluates engine speed, throttle input and vehicle speed and helps to filter a pleasing engine note into the cabin, especially at lower engine speeds. A noise damping film on the windshield also helps to reduce wind and road noise – improving refinement.
The car will go into production next month and should go on sale in the UK by the end of June - prices are yet to be announced
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surprised at the mpg, with the cost of diesel and given a period of time, the gti would work out the more cost effective option :confused:
blue motion ftw
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is it me or does the mk6 need side rub strips just to break it up
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where did they get their mpg figures from? The gti combined is 38 mpg if I remember correctly? It's certainly more economical than the mk5 which is officially 35.6mpg
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is it me or does the mk6 need side rub strips just to break it up
i think on some colours it does
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Wheels are :sick:
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The GT TDI alraedy has that engine and power so as usual they've got it wrong
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I think that looks a touch Toerag meself
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I was starting to appreciate the MK6 but " dont like it"
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I dont think that it being super imposed on that background helps the stance :indifferent:
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I was starting to appreciate the MK6 but " dont like it"
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Nice pic mate, that was taken on your hols last year wasn't it? :laugh:
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Certainly was mate, and this one is of you and me last year before you started getting thin on top and before your laser eye surgery! :P
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The pics on that site show the interior and exterior has having the gti kit. Other than the wheels the GTD has the Gti front lip and side skirts and Gti seats and steering wheel.
Darren
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Certainly was mate, and this one is of you and me last year before you started getting thin on top and before your laser eye surgery! :P
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I must say I did prefer your comb over before you shaved it all off....... :grin: :signLOL:
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Certainly was mate, and this one is of you and me last year before you started getting thin on top and before your laser eye surgery! :P
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I must say I did prefer your comb over before you shaved it all off....... :grin: :signLOL:
Yeah I know mate but it just got to high maintenance and it had to go! I suppose I had to face reality, unlike TC who is hiding his under his tossy bobble! :signLOL:
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That's a photoshopped GTi
With those figures i'd rather the GTi
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I suppose I had to face reality, unlike TC who is hiding his under his tossy bobble! :signLOL:
I have been bald since i was 23, trust me flora i have got more to worry about with my looks than going bald. :laugh:
But you on the other hand.
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Not sure which one is most lookylikey
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How the hell does every topic go off topic on here? :laugh:
The information is basically correct.
http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/article_2593.shtml
Have no idea why people are hating it? Its basically a suitably powered diesel with styling cues taken from the GTI.
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I suppose I had to face reality, unlike TC who is hiding his under his tossy bobble! :signLOL:
I have been bald since i was 23, trust me flora i have got more to worry about with my looks than going bald. :laugh:
But you on the other hand.
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Not sure which one is most lookylikey
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You aint the first to say that TC, mainly about Al Murray. Ive also had this comparison made too! :surprised:
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How the hell does every topic go off topic on here? :laugh:
The information is basically correct.
http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/article_2593.shtml
Have no idea why people are hating it? Its basically a suitably powered diesel with styling cues taken from the GTI.
hate, too strong a word for me. still can't get my head around the golf MK5.5 MK6, it's the styling....but as we're talking engine/mpg and if those figures are true...
..i just don't think it's good enough :chicken: could do better with what they have to hand in the current parts bin imho. in a new car i would say people like to see new tech and approaches to the way the car performs, they've just reshelled a medeocre engine and reworked the plastics around the car
making the MK6 MK7 appearing on the not too distant horizon more of a reality
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Not for me im afraid. If your gonna make a diesel make it hot, 168 BHP is just not enough. You can buy a MKV GT Sport with the same power and it looks better. I just don't get it. I wish they would bring something out like the MK4 Anni Diesel, that was awesome :drool: :drool:
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^^ agreed, needed more effort putting in to make people WANT one rather than have it merely as a choice with others, buying it new would be so uneconomical unless a part of a fleet... and that doesn't happen that often either as the running costs of other marques are cheaper
car would need to be hotter, or cheap
the money should have been spent on further blue motion :smiley:
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It's a Golf GT Diesel, much as currently already exists with the Golf V GTs.
The GTI/GTI-R are petrol only beasties and "halo" cars.
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Why do I hate diesels so much!? :sick:
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Because they are vile things, bereft of soul and scorned by man.
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They offer such different things, have never understood why people dislike them so much, you cant compare diesel to petrol.
Because I love beer, do I have to hate vodka? :rolleye:
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And also because I always think that a diesel driver is someone who is primarily led by money and not any love for their car.
[Quickly puts on flame-proof suit!]
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And also because I always think that a diesel driver is someone who is primarily led by money and not any love for their car.
[Quickly puts on flame-proof suit!]
I'm led by my companies strict 145g/km limit as we're being "eco friendly"
Diesels aren't spirited enough to be "fun", mine is sadly just a mile cruncher
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Because I love beer, do I have to hate vodka? :rolleye:
....Funny you should say that - I love vodka and spirits and hate beer and wine.
But a dislike of diesel isn't rational or really justifiable - It's simply how I feel. It's like I don't like the Prius Pious.
But anyway, nothing important enough for us to fall out over :grouphug:
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Was at my local dealer this afternoon as some new "TSi" MK6's were being unloaded. Like a tit, I didn't have my camera or mobile with me so no pics. :rolleye: I was speaking to a salesman about the arrival of the new GTi and he was telling me about the new GTD. He said it would look very much like the GTi and differ only in the fact that it will have a twin exhaust ( like the exsisting Mk5 GTi and GT ) and the red grille stripe would be deleted. He did say the Adaptive susspension would be an option rather than std. Different alloys but a similar stance to the GTi also.
He said the interior would be basically a monotone Intelagos. Looking at that "Vortex" link, I'd say the UK spec would be the same as those pics from what he said. :smiley:
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he was telling me about the new GTD. He said it would look very much like the GTi and differ only in the fact that it will have a twin exhaust ( like the exsisting Mk5 GTi and GT ) and the red grille stripe would be deleted. He did say the Adaptive susspension would be an option rather than std. Different alloys but a similar stance to the GTi also.
.... Well, that really devalues the Mk6 GTI :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:
Didn't VW learn anything from how similar the Mk4 GTI was to the rest of the Mk4 Golfs!! :fighting:
They got it right with the Mk5 didn't they!
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he was telling me about the new GTD. He said it would look very much like the GTi and differ only in the fact that it will have a twin exhaust ( like the exsisting Mk5 GTi and GT ) and the red grille stripe would be deleted. He did say the Adaptive susspension would be an option rather than std. Different alloys but a similar stance to the GTi also.
.... Well, that really devalues the Mk6 GTI :sad: :sad: :sad: :sad:
Didn't VW learn anything from how similar the Mk4 GTI was to the rest of the Mk4 Golfs!! :fighting:
They got it right with the Mk5 didn't they!
My thoughts exactly + they ( kind of ) done it again with the GT :confused:
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I agree about the mk4 comment Robin, but what I would say is that the mk4 GTI had no distinguishing features to stand it out from the range, where as the MK6 GTD will look similar to the GTI, yes, but the two are distinguished from the rest of the range, giving consumers the choice of petrol or diesel.
Also it doesnt surprise me they have stuck with the 170 bhp 2.0 ltr, had they bumped the power up around 210bhp, it probably would have embarrassed the GTI.
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^ FFS !!!! :fighting: - Even the seat fabric is similar to the GTI. No individuality whatsoever! :angry015: :sad:
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I'm kind of (perversely) happy as it makes our Mk5's look even better and unique... I really think that the Mk5 GTI is going to stand out like the Mk2 GTI did over time :happy2:
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I'm kind of (perversely) happy as it makes our Mk5's look even better and unique... I really think that the Mk5 GTI is going to stand out like the Mk2 GTI did over time :happy2:
Likewise, and I also hope that the mk5 will get remembered as VWs return to form in the GTI stakes.
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I think its the lousy colour thats makes it look rubbish! :wink:
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I think its the lousy colour thats makes it look rubbish! :wink:
....I don't think the Mk6 GTD looks rubbish but far too similar to the Mk6 GTI - That's the problem. VW appear to be only interested in promoting the VW brand overall without enough individual model differentiation. Surprisingly they don't seem to sufficiently recognise the enthusiast market for the iconic GTI and our desire for individuality. :sad:
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Maybe VW are taking a leaf out of SEATs successful book and doing to the GTI what they did the to FR, similar hottish petrol and Diesel model with a range topping 'super-GTI' at the top. Whilst they had the V6 Golfs they used a slightly different and more upmarket approach for the 6 cylinder models, with the rumoured R20 being a four pot perhaps VW will be returning to the extra level of GTI as when they had firstly the 16v added and then the G60.
It's not as if GTD is a new concept for VW and the mk2 GTD was slow as hell despite the GTI style trimmings so they have at least made a half decent effort of it.
I've got GTI printed through me like a stick of rock having owned VAG GTI models for at least 22 years and I'm not offended that they are introducing a decent sporty Diesel. In fact if I had a half decent job and thus was entitled to a company car then I would be quite glad of the GTD as it probably would be far more acceptable to the fleet manager than a petrol GTI despite VWs massaging of the MPG figures for the revised 2.0 engine.
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Good points, Beezer :happy2:
I'm not "offended" by a GTD but just very disappointed that the new GTI isn't sufficiently different in its STYLING from the GTD because VW have suddenly inserted the GTD style and that it's a further step towards boring uniformity. I'm not talking about comparitive performance - I don't care about that as I'm not a willy-waver.
Perhaps it's all about cost efficiency. Well, fook all that! Utterly boring and without any individual design flare and cool style.
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Like beezerdiesel says the GTD badge has heritage too, I dont feel like its taking anything away from the GTI brand. :rolleye:
In fact I think it will help with the clarity of the range, in the past there has been far too many different GT's to choose from, the choice will be simple now: Quickish diesel = GTD, Quickish petrol = GTI
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Knowing VW they will come up with some sort of madcap hot Golf before the mk5.5 becomes mk7 in a few years. :drool:
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VW published the total sales for the GTI and it is obvious TDIs pumped the mkiv figures up, i like its got its own identity, just don't think that colour does the mk6 any favours
http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/volkswagen-world/news/item/89
Mk I: 1977 – 1984
1.6-litre 110 PS
1977 – first UK registration
1979 – first right-hand drive cars go on sale
Total UK Mk I GTI sales: 19,518
Mk II: 1984 – 1992
1.8-litre 112 PS
1986 – 1.8-litre 139 PS 16-valve engine launched
1989 – introduction of ‘big bumpers’
November 1990 – 1,000,000th Golf GTI is produced
Total UK Mk II GTI sales: 88,278
Mk III: 1992 – 1998
2.0-litre 115 PS
1993 – 2.0-litre 16-valve 150 PS engine introduced
Total UK Mk III GTI sales: 39,766
Mk IV: 1998 – 2004
1.8-litre 125 PS
1.8-litre turbo 150 PS
1999 – 2.0-litre 115 PS is introduced
2002 – 1.8-litre turbo 180 PS and 1.9-litre GTI PD 150 PS engines introduced
Total UK Mk IV GTI sales: 46,944
Mk V: 2004 – 2008
2.0-litre 200 PS T-FSI
January 2007 – 30th anniversary of the GTI marked by the launch of 2.0-litre 230 PS GTI Edition 30
May 2007 – six-litre bi-turbo 650 PS GTI W12-650 design study unveiled – the most powerful Golf ever produced by Volkswagen
June 2007 – GTI ‘R-Line’ claims eighth place overall and class victory at Nurburgring 24-hour race
May 2008 – 2.0-litre T-FSI 230 PS GTI Pirelli launched to commemorate 25th anniversary of the original Mk I variant
August 2008 – production of the Mk V GTI ceases
Total UK Mk V GTI sales to date: 17,630
Golf GTI Engine Range: 1977 – 2008
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How come the ED30 was brought out to celebrate 25 years? ^^^^^^^ :grin:
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I'm not "offended" by a GTD but just very disappointed that the new GTI isn't sufficiently different in its STYLING from the GTD because VW have suddenly inserted the GTD style and that it's a further step towards boring uniformity. I'm not talking about comparitive performance - I don't care about that as I'm not a willy-waver.
Perhaps it's all about cost efficiency. Well, fook all that! Utterly boring and without any individual design flare and cool style.
Robin you keep saying the same point but forget something.
How about the past 1.5 years and the GTsport TDI mk5? It came with the same style leather seats that were also standard in the GTI. It had the same sheild style grill etc.
To me this GTD is basically the same as they did in the past year or so. Similar styled front but without the red line, similar styled seats and interior. At least with the mk6 GTI the back will be alot different were as with the mk5 its only slight.
As for styling imo im sorry but the GTI was never about styling that was left to ford,bmw,peugeot,etc. Im sad how VW has gone so far for styling with the mk5&6 rather than go for engineering over looks like they did with mk1 and to a degree the mk2. If it had no engineering reason to be there it was not fitted simple.
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Robin you keep saying the same point but forget something.
How about the past 1.5 years and the GTsport TDI mk5? It came with the same style leather seats that were also standard in the GTI. It had the same sheild style grill etc.
To me this GTD is basically the same as they did in the past year or so. Similar styled front but without the red line, similar styled seats and interior.
....I never said I liked the GTsport TDI Mk5 (or whatever it's called) either.
You can't ignore styling even if it follows function. The Mk5 GTI's style is what initially attracted me.
I'm only voicing the opinion that I much prefer to see distinct styling differences. It's one of the reasons I'm put off Audi's - They all look far too similar.
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As for styling imo im sorry but the GTI was never about styling that was left to ford,bmw,peugeot,etc. Im sad how VW has gone so far for styling with the mk5&6 rather than go for engineering over looks like they did with mk1 and to a degree the mk2. If it had no engineering reason to be there it was not fitted simple.
Mk1 was about styling! Red line around the nose, black edging to the rear window, running stripe along the flank. About the only "nonessential" parts of Mk5 GTI styling is the honeycomb (but it's nicer than a slatted grille IMO and the two fog grilles have actual application on "Trop" spec cars) and the red stripe.
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^ Yes the mk1 had the red line round the grill instead of the crome. Yes it has stickytape coachline on the side and black on the back window. Yes it had these to mark it out from the C and CL models, But the GX and Driver models shared alot of the same look parts and interior excluding the side tape. What i ment was it did not have stuck on rear spoilers that had no engineering reason to be there, extra exhaust pipes that had no engineering reason to be there, Side skirts no engineeering reason to be there, the list goes on, infact like ford had at the time.
The GTI has always had similar looking models in its range through its lifespan, Its nothing new, The GTI only ever differed very slight in looks.
The thing is everyones saying how much the GTD looks like the GTI so what its always been like this since the 70s get over it, they have done it with every MK of the golf INCLUDING the MK5.
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Sad isnt it, theyre bringing out a GTD that looks the same design as the new Mk6 GTi bar the Monza's and rear difuser /exhaust being the only difference :sick:.
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The thing is everyones saying how much the GTD looks like the GTI so what its always been like this since the 70s get over it, they have done it with every MK of the golf INCLUDING the MK5.
....Times are different now and what many of us are objecting to is the similarity among cars and not just Golfs or VW's. Just because something may have been done in the past doesn't mean it shouldn't ever change.
Whether in 1976 or 2009, making a GTI look not a lot different from a diesel devalues the GTI. Just as the Mk5 R32 looks like a Passat from the front - :sick: - The .:R looks ok and the Passat looks ok but it's not ok that they look the same - I'm sick of waving a thumbs-up to Passat drivers!
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I'm sick of waving a thumbs-up to Passat drivers!
:grin: classic
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I think there's another good indication here of brand dilution.
The interior on the Polo has more or less identical Intelagos too. :confused:
Its VW cashing in on the cache of the GTi. And they will continue to do so as they know it brings in sales. The MK5 Golf GT is the worst of all IMO. Debadged and from the rear, apart from tyre profile, they look identical to a GTi.
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....Times are different now and what many of us are objecting to is the similarity among cars and not just Golfs or VW's. Just because something may have been done in the past doesn't mean it shouldn't ever change.
Whether in 1976 or 2009, making a GTI look not a lot different from a diesel devalues the GTI. Just as the Mk5 R32 looks like a Passat from the front - :sick: -
Robin but i have been hearing this since the 70's!!! Times are not changing imo its always been said. Nothing has changed.
Thats one of my points i was trying to make VW has ALWAYS done this.
If you want bodykits extra spoilers lots of exhausts you had the ford, peugeot, renualt and many other makes options etc etc
Its if you will part of what makes VW, VW and part of the appeal of what is and has made the GTI what it is.
Just because this is a site were everyone wants to modifiy does not meen that these views are the ONLY ones of GTI owners and are even the mass amount of views on it. Remember the american adverts for the mk5 GTI? VW made a joke about modifying and those type of looks of rival brands. People have complained about the dull looks and looking like other versions since the GTI first came out in the 70s but it was also part of the appeal. If someone did not buy a rival because of it and still went for the GTI they could always modify and its why there such a support out there. Hell i even still have mags from the 80s about modding mk1 GTIs for looks and performance and the original reviews of the mk1 against kitted more sporty looking rivals its looks were comented on then its nothing new.
I just remember'ed about reading the press interviews of the guys in charge of styling and in charge at VW which includes the mk6 it comes to light that even more conservative looks will be the norm from now for future models including sporty models this is because they too say times are a changing but the otherway.
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Geoff, I think we may be talking slightly at cross-purposes - I'm not disagreeing with what you have posted as being the truth of the matter, but I'm only saying that I don't like it personally.
On the other hand it's great to be able to modify and individualise a GTI. I've been a creative designer all my life and don't like 'conservative' - It's a shame if VW want to make their products the same as Audi's.
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Mk6 Golf/Mk5 Polo... you can't tell the damn things apart. Needs moar Up!
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Geoff, I think we may be talking slightly at cross-purposes - I'm not disagreeing with what you have posted as being the truth of the matter, but I'm only saying that I don't like it personally.
On the other hand it's great to be able to modify and individualise a GTI. I've been a creative designer all my life and don't like 'conservative' - It's a shame if VW want to make their products the same as Audi's.
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I agree Robin, :happy2: I too am not saying your wrong im right etc. You know how bad i am at getting things across in print, As you know i never meen offence. :smiley: I was simply looking at it from VW angles, Its something they have always done and makes them different to the other makes. :smiley:
As always each to the own thats what the options out there to modify and also other makes doing more sporty hothatches out the gate are for. Its all personal taste and views.
I think i may have just miss-read the replies as mk5 owners complaining about the mk6 as all previous owners of the past generations do they always like to rip big time into the new kid, and maybe i was thinking they had not looked at the wider picture of it has always been this way. They always seem to forget that even when it applies just as much to there own mk.
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Saw one of these GTD's on the factory tour in Wolfsburg whilst there last week - they look so much nicer in the flesh! I wouldn't say no :happy2:
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Saw one of these GTD's on the factory tour in Wolfsburg whilst there last week - they look so much nicer in the flesh! I wouldn't say no :happy2:
You're definately biased young miss.
What wheels did the ones in Wolfsburg sit on BTW? The ones on the press shots look nowhere near as good as the Charlestons IMO.
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The same as the pic in the press shots. It's a smart looking motor I have to say! The new GTI was still in it's own league though :drool:
Must confess, the mk6's didn't jump out at me when first seeing them here - but they've really grown on me since seeing all the better spec ones over there :smiley: