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Title: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: andrewparker on October 09, 2011, 08:15:47 pm
Come on then guys, what do you do about these morons?!

Just drove back from Manchester and must have passed about 30 people just sitting, gormless in the middle lane :stupid:
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on October 09, 2011, 08:17:07 pm

:fighting: :fighting: :fighting: :fighting: :fighting: :fighting: :fighting: :fighting:

That is all
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: Saint Steve on October 09, 2011, 08:21:39 pm
Not an issue IMO if they are travelling faster then you actually, but a pain in the arse if they are going too slow and causing an obstruction.
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: andrewparker on October 09, 2011, 08:24:22 pm
Not an issue IMO if they are travelling faster then you actually...

That's not often the case :laugh:
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on October 09, 2011, 08:26:59 pm

Our cars have mirrors, indicators and steering wheels.  Overtaking is a simple (and enjoyable  :evilgrin:) affair.  So why not move back to the left if the road ahead is open and  overtake as and when necesarry?

[/rant] - Im just wound up 'cause my car's not running propperly  :sad:
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: Oli on October 09, 2011, 08:27:23 pm
I did a couple of hundred miles today, and commented to my wife on this very subject and twats that change lane without indicating - just so dangerous!

Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: Saint Steve on October 09, 2011, 08:30:32 pm
Good for avoiding stone chips I guess sitting in the middle in light traffic, but I've given up trying to avoid them now, just leave the Gti at home now :signLOL:
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: andrewparker on October 09, 2011, 08:30:55 pm
I just think it's nuts that a motorway test isn't compulsory... then people might have some idea what they are doing!
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: JoeDarKa on October 09, 2011, 08:31:18 pm
I followed some silly woman in a clio, sat in the middle lane from kendal (junction 36 of M6) to Bolton (junction 5 of m61) and she never went into the inside lane once! Its a roughly 60mile trip  :stupid:
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: vRS Carl on October 09, 2011, 08:38:44 pm
Something that really bugs me too.

It's amazing how quickly they remember how to drive when a police car is around.

The best excuse I hear is "I feel safer in the middle lane" well I hate to tell you this but you shouldn't be driving on the motorway if you don't feel safe.
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: sam on October 09, 2011, 08:39:15 pm
Don't let it stress you out. These people are not worthing stressing over. :happy2:
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: rich83 on October 09, 2011, 08:43:46 pm
Don't get me started....
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: Jonboy72 on October 09, 2011, 08:45:18 pm
People who do 40 on a national speed limit road and then do 40 in a 30 limit.... hmm!
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: Saint Steve on October 09, 2011, 08:46:57 pm
Don't let it stress you out. These people are not worthing stressing over. :happy2:

Exactly, see it daily, and Im often found in the middle or lane 3,but I don't hang around much to sit and watch if I'm honest. Is a problem when they going sub 60 when it then can annoy other motorists.
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: JPC on October 09, 2011, 08:49:10 pm
if someone passes me in the middle lane and does get back into the 1st lane, they'll get an unobtrusive flash from me, much like a trucker would do to flash other trucks back into the first lane. I used to do a LOT of driving everyday and it used to drive me up the wall!

I rarely get to worry about it now though, but when motorway driving tuition becomes mandatory we will look back on the days where it wasn't mandatory as utterly stupid. much like how we used to allow smoking in pubs and clubs.

Its just asking for trouble when you allow a 17 year old on the road after they pass their test and say "ok, go for it, the motorway is all yours even though you don't know the first thing about it"

Whats really worrying is those people will be having kids and advising them on how to drive on the motorway. you can just imagine some of the tips
"just stay in the middle lane and don't worry about the other drivers"
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: JPC on October 09, 2011, 08:50:57 pm
Don't let it stress you out. These people are not worthing stressing over. :happy2:

Exactly, see it daily, and Im often found in the middle or lane 3,but I don't hang around much to sit and watch if I'm honest. Is a problem when they going sub 60 when it then can annoy other motorists.


being in the middle lane without over taking is plain wrong anyways. It really grates me seeing people tonking it on an empty motorway doing 90 mph in the 2nd or 3rd lane. some people just don't have a clue!
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: rich83 on October 09, 2011, 08:56:01 pm
I love it when undertaking middle lane numpties, give the horn a massive honking and they crap themselves.... Because they didn't even realise you were there, that's how aware they are.

( I know it's wrong)
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: PDT on October 09, 2011, 10:07:49 pm
Isnt this punishable by points in the republic of Ireland?

If the road is clear enough its the perfect opportunity for orbiting  :smiley: ( passing in fast lane, back to middle lane, back to slow lane. Let the idiot overtake you and repeat the 'orbit' until they get the message)
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: stealthwolf on October 09, 2011, 10:17:46 pm
It's amazing how quickly they remember how to drive when a police car is around.
Driving along to BDM this week and everyone seemed to be driving slowly - people in the outside lane couldn't have been doing much over 70mph. As I legally overtook from the middle lane, it became clear - there was a police car in the first lane of the motorway. Everyone was behaving impeccably. This IMO is far more effective than speed cameras.

People who do 40 on a national speed limit road and then do 40 in a 30 limit.... hmm!
Yeah I hate this too. When I lived in Bournemouth, there was a route to work off the main DC. It was a single carriageway. Just before it started was a 40mph sign. The carriageway was signposted at NSL and was followed by a 30mph sign. I was frustrated at the people who flashed me when I (legally) overtook them because they were doing only 40mph in a 60mph zone, but would continue at 40mph in the 30mph zone.
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: Richn83 on October 10, 2011, 09:58:24 am
I cant stand this either, they block the motorway up by tootling along in the middle lane, I have seen people exit a slip road on to an empty motorway and pull across in front of me straight into the middle lane its ridiculous!  I have only once seen one of the red warning signs used to say dont hog the middle lane, but they need to start making this a bigger point.

It was even mentioned by a minister in the 80 limit debate who said we dont need extra lanes or a faster limit to un-clog the motorways we need to teach people how to drive on them and stated people who sit in the middle lane when the others are empty are causing much of the problem.
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: edd666999 on October 10, 2011, 10:14:09 am
I love it when undertaking middle lane numpties, give the horn a massive honking and they crap themselves.... Because they didn't even realise you were there, that's how aware they are.

( I know it's wrong)

i used to do this...but if your seen by a copper guess whos in trouble, you or the person you just undertook! So i now over take and quite quickly move back into the 1st lane.


Something i find funny is if your in the 2nd lane, cruise control on at 70mph, over taking for lets say 5miles, the 3rd lane is free and there is a car behind you doing 70mph.

You move back over to the 1st lane and the guy that has been following you for 5miles at 70 decides to overtake you??? Why not just use the 3rd lane if you want to over take me!!! Look out for it on your next trip, makes me chuckle!
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: h4rdy on October 10, 2011, 10:55:48 am
I regularly drive to work at 70mph in cruise control because I'm in no rush to get to work and save a bit of petrol.

If anybody is in 1st lane at 60ish ill move to middle but I will be pro active and if there is no point changing as in a minute I'll be back with eight lorries to pass I'll stay where I am.

But like edd666999 says why do they fly up your arris then when you move to over overtake?

If I want to do 70mph overtaking slow traffic in a 70mph national limit I will!

If it does change to 80mph I'll re-evaluate my attitude.

Another thing that pisses me off, I was driving to work I think on Friday morn early at about sixish. Red rag to a bull, a TTRS must have seen me as he got on the M40, not an expert on speeds other people are doing but if I'm doing 70 and the car that comes past me makes the car move with wind displacement I'd say 140-150mph was a fair estimate!

I'm on the way to work for christs sake sort yourself out and book a track day!

I was kinda hoping for an unmarked further down but alas no!

I love it when undertaking middle lane numpties, give the horn a massive honking and they crap themselves.... Because they didn't even realise you were there, that's how aware they are.

( I know it's wrong)

i used to do this...but if your seen by a copper guess whos in trouble, you or the person you just undertook! So i now over take and quite quickly move back into the 1st lane.


Something i find funny is if your in the 2nd lane, cruise control on at 70mph, over taking for lets say 5miles, the 3rd lane is free and there is a car behind you doing 70mph.

You move back over to the 1st lane and the guy that has been following you for 5miles at 70 decides to overtake you??? Why not just use the 3rd lane if you want to over take me!!! Look out for it on your next trip, makes me chuckle!
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: Top Cat on October 10, 2011, 02:03:53 pm
I have been close to seeking medical help to help me cope with lane hoggers. I do 30,000 odd miles a year and it really winds me up, so much so i have to tell myself when i get into the car, to just relax and ignore it.  5 minutes later 1 mile onto the motorway and i am thinking of just driving into the side of them and push them to the inside.  :laugh:  As you can tell it kinda gets to me.  :mad:

I have different ways of dealing ( coping with them depending on who is driving. ) best not to entry them on here.  :rolleye:
 People do it for a number of different reasons.
The biggest bugbear though is the digital overhead signs. They say things like 9 minutes to junction 16 or take your litter other people do.  :stupid:

Were they should say 

oy! you! yes you! ignorant selfish idiot  in the middle lane get over to the left once clear.

It has been proven to be the main reason for traffic jams on motorways when congested and yet the highways agency do diddlesquat about it.  :sick:


Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: Richn83 on October 10, 2011, 02:13:02 pm
It could be a good job for the traffic wombles they could be tasked with pulling the idiots over or showing them a message on the little red displays.
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: rich83 on October 10, 2011, 02:16:56 pm
Lane hogging effectively reduces the number of lanes on a motorway too, they result in even more congestion.

I'm with you TC, I get instant rage.... 'they' always give you that blank " what's the matter" look once you've given them a good flashing to try and get them to shift over.
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: h4rdy on October 10, 2011, 02:24:32 pm
The worst thing you could possibly do to me is flash me. :stupid:
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: Greeners on October 10, 2011, 02:25:41 pm
Gets my goat, but as has already been touched on here, half the time they don't even know you are there so if you remonstrated in anyway they would look at you oblivious so I don't tend to bother these days!!  :fighting:
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: rich83 on October 10, 2011, 02:31:02 pm
The worst thing you could possibly do to me is flash me. :stupid:

I'm not flashing you.... ;-) GTI drivers seems to do one of 2 things.

Drive at 60mph in the slow lane or drive at 85 in the fast lane. LOL
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: Kalpsn2000 on October 10, 2011, 02:38:41 pm
The worst thing you could possibly do to me is flash me. :stupid:

I'm not flashing you.... ;-) GTI drivers seems to do one of 2 things.

Drive at 60mph in the slow lane or drive at 85 in the fast lane. LOL

Yes you could catch me doing that occasionally trying my best to get the MPG figure back up to a reasonable figure :wink: :grin:
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: simonp on October 10, 2011, 02:42:39 pm
I don't get annoyed any more, as there are too many nutters out there. I once got chased about 30 or 40 miles up the M3 by some psycho who was middle lane sitting.

I was in the inside lane and approaching a slower truck and there had been this Cadillac BTS sat 20m or so behind in the middle lane for quite a while. I checked the mirror, saw he was still behind and then indicated and started to pull out. He then accelerated sharply, cutting me up and forcing me to slam the anchors on and pull back in behind the lorry, despite the fact the 3rd lane was empty. I then pulled out again and flashed my headlights at him and he slammed the anchors on!  He then kept doing this for miles, he'd get in front of me and do emergency stops, I'd swerve round and then he'd give chase, full beam on and get in front and do the same again. In the end I just floored it and left him behind, maybe doing 130 or so. I expect if I'd been caught doing that I'd have had the book thrown at me and I'm just glad the motorway was quiet enough that I could do that speed to get away!
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: h4rdy on October 10, 2011, 04:26:32 pm
We once were on our way to Devon in our MPV.
This guy/twat in his Subaru(with his company name plastered all over the side) kept undertaking, slowing down, speeding up etc etc while playing with a laptop.
We genuinely did not know were he had gone so we wanted to go in the services, indicated and pulled over, guess who was there?
He then followed us into the services, parked his car(no handbrake the car started rolling off down the carpark and he had to go back :signLOL:) and made his way over to us, me and the wife are fairly well trained in Self Defence (10 years TKD/Mixed martial Arts/Bow staff etc etc) so stayed in the car while he rapped on the window asking 'you don't know who I am' to which I replied 'I do your company name is plastered all over your car'!
He made a sharp exit when he realised :signLOL:.
I could have gone to the police but what would have happened? Some nutter finding out where I live? Ironically I owned a Subaru at the time!
Best thing to do is either, IMO, undertake at a safe opportunity i.e. when the hard shoulder is clear enough for emergencies, or just be patient and wait for an opening on the fast lane.
I never remonstrate anymore because there are some nutters out there who are willing to put everything on the line to prove a point, I have a few mates who are willing to do that too, its they way they are :fighting:
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: PDT on October 10, 2011, 07:29:35 pm
Company name?
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: h4rdy on October 10, 2011, 08:13:17 pm
It was his own tuning company I will try and remember.
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: maxload on October 10, 2011, 08:17:03 pm
Come on then guys, what do you do about these morons?!

Just drove back from Manchester and must have passed about 30 people just sitting, gormless in the middle lane :stupid:

Im afraid it's just another example of the very poor drivers we have on the roads these days. How some of these people pass there test is totaly incredible.  :rolleye:
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: sub39h on October 10, 2011, 08:20:46 pm
when i come to power middle lane drivers will be executed on site. no exceptions, no excuses.



in all seriousness tho i nearly fell out with someone who did this when i was in the car. he's widely regarded as not only the most clueless, but most dangerous of all our friends when it comes to being behind the wheel of a car but he REFUSES to accept this.

i've tended to find there's a definite geographical spread of how bad driving is. i've lived in leeds, a short while in london, birmingham, and now in stoke. i've driven extensively in the US and in India and i can say without a shadow of a doubt the worst driving i've come across is in the Midlands, closely followed by India.
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: stealthwolf on October 10, 2011, 08:22:41 pm
It was his own tuning company
I had a similarly silly experience with a small van advertising tuning. Small white van that overtook me and then cut in front of very closely. Mega peed off so went into the outside lane and overtook him. He later caught up and seemed to apologise.
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: h4rdy on October 10, 2011, 08:27:23 pm
when i come to power middle lane drivers will be executed on site. no exceptions, no excuses.



in all seriousness tho i nearly fell out with someone who did this when i was in the car. he's widely regarded as not only the most clueless, but most dangerous of all our friends when it comes to being behind the wheel of a car but he REFUSES to accept this.

i've tended to find there's a definite geographical spread of how bad driving is. i've lived in leeds, a short while in london, birmingham, and now in stoke. i've driven extensively in the US and in India and i can say without a shadow of a doubt the worst driving i've come across is in the Midlands, closely followed by India.

Ever driven in Portugal?

Even the Police are drunk. Fact!

And if a woman is in front of them, thats it overtake, very strange.

Im ashamed to admit it as well, I have caught myself daydreaming in the middle lane, tired, after or on way to work.

I have corrected myself as soon as I realised though.
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on October 10, 2011, 08:29:45 pm

Or driven in Afghan. Goats in the back of corolla estate, kids on the roof.  No joke!
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: vRS Carl on October 10, 2011, 08:31:28 pm
If anybody is in 1st lane at 60ish ill move to middle but I will be pro active and if there is no point changing as in a minute I'll be back with eight lorries to pass I'll stay where I am.

So what is your cut off point before you move back in?? 30 seconds, 1 minute, 5 minutes. As per your driving lessons the same thing applies to the motorway. As soon as you have overtaken you should move back into the inside lane as soon as safe to do so. Even if it means your pulling back out again 15 secs later to overtake the said "eight lorries"

I bet you don't do the same when there is a marked police car around (although no doubt you will say you do!)
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: RobH on October 10, 2011, 08:44:26 pm
My boss is the worst driver i will probably ever come across. Actually driving is last in the list of his priorities. He never indicates, regulary just starts moving over onto over drivers again no indication forcing them to brake. Reads txts and emails with reading glasses on while doing 80mph. Sits in the outer lane and gets pissed off when people undertake him. Does his paperwork on the steering wheel agian reading glasses on. Delibratly goes in the wrong lane and forces his way in because he carnt be arsed to cue. The amount of times i saved us from impending death is ridiculous.

Point blank refuse to get in his van these days. Of course he moans about every body elses driving aswell like you wouldnt believe.

On a side note was highly amusing when he failed to see speed bumps :grin: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: h4rdy on October 10, 2011, 08:49:16 pm
Well I will be doing 70mph anyway which is the speed limit on motorways so if I wanted to stay out for 5 minutes I would be well within my rights.

Sarcasm over it would depend how busy it was, but, is swerving in and out of the 1st to 2nd lane every 15-30 seconds safe?

What has the marked police car got to do with anything, I don't change my style of driving just because there is a police car there, if there was a line of lorries 100 yards/30 seconds away and I am doing 70mph I am doing nothing wrong.

I generally am in the inside lane at 70mph and if not its 60mph in the middle.................behind everyone else stuck in traffic :signLOL:
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: vRS Carl on October 10, 2011, 09:00:04 pm
Well I will be doing 70mph anyway which is the speed limit on motorways so if I wanted to stay out for 5 minutes I would be well within my rights.

Sarcasm over it would depend how busy it was, but, is swerving in and out of the 1st to 2nd lane every 15-30 seconds safe?

What has the marked police car got to do with anything, I don't change my style of driving just because there is a police car there, if there was a line of lorries 100 yards/30 seconds away and I am doing 70mph I am doing nothing wrong.

I generally am in the inside lane at 70mph and if not its 60mph in the middle.................behind everyone else stuck in traffic :signLOL:

You wouldn't be within your rights to sit in the middle lane for 5 minutes at all. They are overtaking lanes not driving lanes.

If your 30 secs from the lorries at 70mph your over half a mile away so there is no reason to sit in the middle lane.

Maybe you need to go and take a pass plus driving test which incorporates motorway driving. Or even better try doing a ROSPA/IAM test. See if they think your doing the right thing.

Not trying to make out I'm a perfect driver (far from it) but having done plenty of driving courses I've got a fair bit of awareness and road sense.
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: sub39h on October 10, 2011, 09:23:48 pm
i'd imagine in the above circumstance common sense prevails. the IAM taught me pre-emptive driving. if you're pulling back in but momentarily expecting to pull back out again and by pulling back in you're losing your space in a line of traffic then my instructor taught me to stay put. you're not middle lane driving if you're actively overtaking a lorry, which you are if you can see it and pulling back in only to pull back out again will impede your progress
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on October 10, 2011, 09:25:50 pm

 :grouphug:
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: stealthwolf on October 10, 2011, 09:29:35 pm
if you're pulling back in but momentarily expecting to pull back out again and by pulling back in you're losing your space in a line of traffic then my instructor taught me to stay put.
This is what I do. I will return to the left hand lane unless I can see up ahead that I'll need to pull out and won't be able to due to a queue of cars behind me.
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: rich83 on October 10, 2011, 09:36:47 pm
You think that's bad. I saw someone drinking a can of fosters driving a big pick up truck.
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: h4rdy on October 10, 2011, 09:45:07 pm
if you're pulling back in but momentarily expecting to pull back out again and by pulling back in you're losing your space in a line of traffic then my instructor taught me to stay put.
This is what I do. I will return to the left hand lane unless I can see up ahead that I'll need to pull out and won't be able to due to a queue of cars behind me.

What I kind of meant.

And maybe, VRSCarl, I don't need to do a ROSPA/IAM course either, why so patronising?

SUB39H has obviously had a different instructor which told him something different.

Sometimes I give up with this forum :happy2: Taken completely out of context as per usual!
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: simonp on October 10, 2011, 10:43:12 pm
If your 30 secs from the lorries at 70mph your over half a mile away so there is no reason to sit in the middle lane.

Maybe you need to go and take a pass plus driving test which incorporates motorway driving. Or even better try doing a ROSPA/IAM test.

Maybe you need maths lessons? A lorry would only be half a mile away if it was stationary. On motorways, though, they're generally doing around 56mph, so a car doing an indicated 70mph would only have a closing speed of around 10mph. 30 seconds at a speed of 10mph is about 150 yards by my reckoning...
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: Top Cat on October 10, 2011, 10:47:07 pm
Whats with the internet bun fight.  :laugh:  :stupid: This thread is about idiots on the motorway save the, idiots on the internet, for Fridays.  :driver:
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: vRS Carl on October 10, 2011, 10:49:32 pm
If your 30 secs from the lorries at 70mph your over half a mile away so there is no reason to sit in the middle lane.

Maybe you need to go and take a pass plus driving test which incorporates motorway driving. Or even better try doing a ROSPA/IAM test.

Maybe you need maths lessons? A lorry would only be half a mile away if it was stationary. On motorways, though, they're generally doing around 56mph, so a car doing an indicated 70mph would only have a closing speed of around 10mph. 30 seconds at a speed of 10mph is about 150 yards by my reckoning...

My bad but I have been up since 0330 :P

if you're pulling back in but momentarily expecting to pull back out again and by pulling back in you're losing your space in a line of traffic then my instructor taught me to stay put.
This is what I do. I will return to the left hand lane unless I can see up ahead that I'll need to pull out and won't be able to due to a queue of cars behind me.

What I kind of meant.

And maybe, VRSCarl, I don't need to do a ROSPA/IAM course either, why so patronising?

SUB39H has obviously had a different instructor which told him something different.

Sometimes I give up with this forum :happy2: Taken completely out of context as per usual!

H4rdy :love:

I'm not trying to be patronising or take what you said out of context. Your also confusing what SUB39H said. If you overtake and there is a gap, but pulling in would mean you near enough immediately have to pull back out again, then yes I fully agree you stay in the overtaking lane. But as you stated 30 secs that is not immediate. I don't know of ANY ROSPA/IAM instructor that would say block an overtaking lane for 30 secs or more. Not sayings know them all but I know a few and have been taught on various courses by them.

I drive quite a lot of miles (25k+) per year and a fair bit is on motorways so I see a lot of what you describe going on. I get quite passionate about it as I can't understand why people do it. It's not taught anywhere so why people do it is beyond me.You have even said yourself you have sat daydreaming in the middle lane. But if you were using the inside as you should this would happen a lot less.

We will agree to disagree and leave it at that as I'm not trying to cause offence and your obviously getting offended by what I'm saying.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: h4rdy on October 10, 2011, 11:41:26 pm
I'm not offended Carl :happy2:

Here is this to put driving into context:
I work with 65 Engineers. Out of all of them maybe 5 are Petrolheads, another 5 'like' cars.
I would imagine the 10 out of 65 are average drivers because they care about their car etc etc.
The other 55 couldn't give a sh*t.

Out of the 1200 other employees maybe another, seriously, 20 petrolheads.
Now the other employees are shocking drivers, my car has been hit 3 times in 1.5 years none of them give a sh*t.

What am I trying to say? Its only us on here that are bothered about people sitting in the middle lane the other, lets say, 85% don't give a sh*t.

Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: sub39h on October 10, 2011, 11:48:26 pm
hmm that's not really a valid viewpoint.

85% of ppl probs don't care about the famines in africa, or the AIDS epidemic or anything else. doesn't mean it's right to ignore it.


thankfully i recently saw a copper pull someone over for middle lane driving recently. hopefully there will be more of this and the activity will stop. otherwise, no joking, when i come to power they will be executed on site.
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: h4rdy on October 11, 2011, 08:23:07 am
hmm that's not really a valid viewpoint.

85% of ppl probs don't care about the famines in africa, or the AIDS epidemic or anything else. doesn't mean it's right to ignore it.


thankfully i recently saw a copper pull someone over for middle lane driving recently. hopefully there will be more of this and the activity will stop. otherwise, no joking, when i come to power they will be executed on site.

Well it is because its showing what percentage of people don't give a monkeys.
My opinion mate yours is different too and I appreciate that! :happy2:
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: RedRobin on October 11, 2011, 08:39:23 am

If the road is clear enough its the perfect opportunity for orbiting  :smiley: ( passing in fast lane, back to middle lane, back to slow lane. Let the idiot overtake you and repeat the 'orbit' until they get the message)


....That's exactly what I do if the road is clear enough. I didn't know it was called 'orbiting'  :happy2: Some get the message and some don't/won't but you never want to get stressed about it.

Again, if the road is clear enough and I'm back in the left lane, I accelerate towards them quite hard but staying in my lane. If they spot my DRL's they tend to wake up and move over or if not I might give them a quick flash. If the flash is very quick and short, they don't necessarily realise you flashed them unless they were already looking at you (unlikely!) but you usually get their attention. I don't undertake though unless on a filter lane.
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: RedRobin on October 11, 2011, 08:58:02 am
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Just to add that if in good conditions and travelling a lot faster than other traffic, other drivers tend to spot the DRL's and move out of the way in good time. The trouble is that those kind of speeds are shall we say 'naughty' - Okay in most of Germany but not in dear old England.

A pet hate I have is those drivers who tailgate you in the fast lane when the traffic is heavy and you are leaving a good braking distance in front of you and the flow obviously can't go any faster. I'll let someone through if I can get back out to the lane but not otherwise - We just all need to be patient.

That's why a high performance car is safer if driven responsibly: Your fast acceleration allows you to leave braking distances, see further ahead, and quickly close the gap to overtake when the opportunity presents itself. Braking distances says an awful lot about the driver. And guys in Lambo's and Porsches rarely tailgate you - They don't need to!
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: h4rdy on October 11, 2011, 10:43:03 am
Well said Robin :congrats:

Probably what I have been trying to say all along, well not all I haven't got DRL's :signLOL:
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on October 11, 2011, 10:56:29 am
I think motorway driving in the Uk is going to be very frustrating  :fighting:
Title: Re: Middle Lane Sitters
Post by: RedRobin on October 11, 2011, 03:27:33 pm

I think motorway driving in the Uk is going to be very frustrating  :fighting:


....I think it will be frustrating for you too unfortunately. Even coming back to UK onto the M20 after only a few days in Germany makes 70 mph feel like 30 and it's also stressful trying to keep the speed down and having to watch out for those who would speedgun you. You get used to it again quite quickly but it doesn't endear you to the authorities here. Many UK M-ways are designed to accommodate much higher speeds than 70 (providing the conditions are good of course). I feel frustrated just thinking about it!