MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: rich83 on November 13, 2011, 02:05:55 pm
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Ok I'm going to keep this quite brief and just give you the facts.
Car in question is a Nissan 370Z, automatic and almost brand new. It went 'missing' from outside the owners house whilst away on work. The owner had one key with her and another key was in the house which was occupied by her boyfriend. According to said boyfriend, no alarms, no noise... just no car when he woke up. The house was not broken into.
How easy is it to gain entry to cars these days.. and start them, and drive them away? And do it without a key?
Thoughts... ponderings... any comment at all might prove helpful.
Thanks
Rich
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Are both the keys still there? Has the car got any previous owners which may have an old key?
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Might have just turned up with a hi ab and just lifted the car up off the ground and taken it way like dvla/vosa do
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No previous owners AFAIK.. i think it was an ex demo. One key was with the owner and one was in her house.
Mat... could have been but wouldn't the movement sensors trigger the alarm?
The car has been found and has some damage, but not sure to what extent yet.
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They might have gone off but the owner not heard them
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That is true...
But how have they managed to get in and start the car without the key?
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No previous owners AFAIK.. i think it was an ex demo. One key was with the owner and one was in her house.
Mat... could have been but wouldn't the movement sensors trigger the alarm?
The car has been found and has some damage, but not sure to what extent yet.
IMO What this screams at me is, Boyfriend took car for a spin got into a bit of trouble got a taxi home went to bed and denied all knowledge of said incident :innocent:
Just my opinion :happy2:
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As said above maybe had some mates round had a few drinks then decided to go for a spin, lost it, hit something then rushed home and began thinking what he could tell the girlfriend
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Stinks to high heaven...
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Stinks to high heaven...
I know mike.... as soon as i was told about what had happened alarm bells started to ring. I hope I/we are wrong, but you cannot steal and start a car without a key. The final nail will be if there is no sign of forced entry/broken windows etc :stupid:
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Car cannot be driven without the key . Insurance will not pay out for this . Damage will be accident damage caused by boyfriend . Investigation closed :happy2:
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Car cannot be driven without the key . Insurance will not pay out for this . Damage will be accident damage caused by boyfriend . Investigation closed :happy2:
I know of a BMW x6 that was stolen with a laptop and a screwdriver. Keys were locked in a secure box, took them a couple of minutes and was gone.
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If it were that easy, there wouldn't be an X6 left on the road - they'd all be in containers heading overseas.
These are all myths and legends used in insurance fraud and where things don't add up. Such as this 370Z story.
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I fear you are right mike. The fact is that new cars these days are pretty hard to steal, bare in mind this was on a public road, not a secluded spot.
Garrard, if that is the case RE: insurance... then mega :sick: :sick: :sick:
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Well my mate for jumped on his way home from the pub,hiss wallet, phone and keys nicked both house and car. His car was parked at pub. Audi wanted him to get the car to them so they could sort him out with a new one as he only had one. In the end got a local cap to meet him at the car with a blank key and laptop and did it all. How did he do that? And surely he could do it to mine or yours?
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A friend on mine had his BMW M3 stolen with out the key, the guys watched him for a few weeks, learnt his life pattern and one night when he locked up he pushed he beeper on the remote as he normally does and they copied the code from the key fob....that's all I know so far and didn't want to ask to much out of respect but he thinks it was a proper job and the car was allready sold
Jack
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if its turned up with accident damage the boyfriend drove it drunk crashed it reported it stolen.
i work for insurance fraud deal with this kinda stuff day in day out lol
the keys of all newish cars log when they are used, how long for, the cars mileage etc and if you take the key to a dealer they can tell you in a cool machine!
only just closed a file at work, a guy in an audi s4 got his car stolen as he was at work, sent us the keys as he said he had one on him at the time and one was at home, checked them with audi and they confirmed it had been driven the same time he was at work.
he finally admitted he couldnt afford the finance so had it stolen and burnt out.
he ended up with no car, no payout, and £19,000 still outstanding on finance!!
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Ouch. He could have sold the car back and might've had some equity in it too.
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Wow, wouldn't like to be in the dock if any of you lot were on jury service! :scared: :laugh:
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It is possible to crack them but its very specialised and can be very time consuming. Example - http://securityevaluators.com/content/case-studies/tiris/index.jsp
Was the car a UK car? Japanese imports often don't have the immobiliser systems that are mandatory in the EU,
my old S2000 didn't have a factory fit one, which would make stealing it a damn sight easier! :happy2:
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AFAIK... UK spec.
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My boss had his brand new TT stolen by someone who was working at the dealership he bought the car from. He wasn't aware the car should have came with the black plastic key and so never checked when he took ownership of it. Shortly after it disappeared. Just by chance he learnt that this wasn't the first time this had happened and marched down to the dealers. They confessed that they had a "problem" and gave him £7K of a replacement.
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sounds like a happy ending then - £7k is a hefty chunk of change
back on topic - it does sound like the bf has lost an argument with a tree but if there's no evidence of that then innocent until proven guilty.