MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: monte on November 14, 2011, 11:35:29 pm
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Anyone else had bother with these £50+ crappy locking bolts?
Well today I Finally got round to putting my Satin black Pescara's back on for winter.....or so I thought.
I got to taking off my 3rd Monza and the bolt was rather a tight little bugger to say the least. :surprised: (these were put on with an air gun at my local tyre shop)
Anyway I thought it had loosened but to my surprise all it had done was shear off some of the edges of the key (sort of a cloverleaf pattern)
I messed about with it for about half an hour before realising that I need to put the Monza's back on. (with some other lockers I had)
So I have checked on the website, and basically the guarantee is not worth $£%@. Whatsmore it will cost £18 to order a new key from Germany, which I don't mind really, but I would have liked it soon. They state that you have to send a Cheque or Cash in an envelope with your key number and then they will send the key. :confused:
Why can't you get them from UK, or at least buy the key online. Then they can send it out straight away :fighting:
Just hope the next key doesn't sheer off. :scared:
Any idea's?
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I've never had any problem with McGard on two sets of wheels Monte. Sorry to hear you're having problems.
In fact they've been excellent. Where are yours from?
I would highly recommend William @ http://www.performancealloys.com in future (they're in Northern Ireland) - I've spent well over £2,000 on wheels and bolts with them in recent times and they've never failed to sort me out.
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VW Lockers... at least if your key gets stuffed you can get one from any VW garage! :-)
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Pete,
Does William sell the keys ???
Still can't believe a multi national company doesn't have an online checkout though :roll eye:
Rich,
The VW lockers seem much stronger as well, but they are the wrong seat pattern. :sad1:
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Thats a PITA... are you sure they only do 1 seat type?
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Thats a PITA... are you sure they only do 1 seat type?
Well when I first got my Monza's I asked the Parts Manager at the dealers if they had the deep flange bolts and he said no. But I remember he didn't look on the system or anything, he just straight said No! :confused:
Suppose I could just take 1 wheel bolt in and see if they can match it up :popcornsoda:
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Bummer :( had to smash mine off over summer as I was having my NQSBBK fitted and left the lockers in Germany.
Very lucky I didn't Have a blowout! I carry the repair foam tin.
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Anyone else had bother with these £50+ crappy locking bolts?
Well today I Finally got round to putting my Satin black Pescara's back on for winter.....or so I thought.
I got to taking off my 3rd Monza and the bolt was rather a tight little bugger to say the least. :surprised: (these were put on with an air gun at my local tyre shop)
....Sorry to tell you this after the event, but air guns should NEVER be used on McGards. Should always be done by hand with a proper torque wrench with readout/preset.
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I had the same problem when they had been air gun tightened after a service at vw :fighting:
I got my replacement key via the mcgard website and all ordering was done online with my credit card and it arrived in 3 days, went for the offer on 2 keys for 30 euro :happy2:
I'd imagine that you ended up on the mcgard.com (US) website which doesnt allow online ordering of replacement keys?
Give www.mcgard.de a whirl and here's a direct link to the online key ordering page https://www.wheellockkeys.com/homepage/deutschland/englisch/bestellung.php or alternatively just call Mcgard CS on freephone number 00800 25993400 and order over the phone with your card, they speak German, English, French, and Spanish so you should get sorted :smiley:
As a tip for the future, if the car goes in for any work I remove the locker from each wheel and replace with a regular bolt so that I won't have any air gun monkey related problems again and just pop the locker back in when I get home..
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No help here just an observation - but I never use any locking nuts anymore - not since several expensive and annoying experiences in the past with bent/rounded/sheared keys!
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Its not just volkswagen, I'm ordered a new locking wheel nut key from the local ford dealer in 2003 and I'm still waiting...............
McGuard used to win the autoexpress tests a few years ago, but all keys seem to a limited life if used often.
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Thanks Beddie,
What website was I looking at :confused: I certainly didn't see that order page???
It just said to send 18 euro by cash or cheque :stupid:
I'll order two I think....
I hope I don't ruin another key :scared:
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As a tip for the future, if the car goes in for any work I remove the locker from each wheel and replace with a regular bolt so that I won't have any air gun monkey related problems again and just pop the locker back in when I get home..
Good idea! I normally have a set of VW locking nuts on (not much use as there are only a small number of different key patterns!) and a set of the McGuard ones. I removed the McGuard ones this morning as my car is in today having MOT, service and brake fluid change, so hopefully all will be well later on! :scared:
When removing/swapping your wheels, don't forget to put copper grease on the inside of the wheel where it makes contact with the hub, and also a bit on the thread of the nuts before you refit. Makes removing the wheel next time a lot easier! ..and tighten with a torque wrench to 120 if you can!
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As a tip for the future, if the car goes in for any work I remove the locker from each wheel and replace with a regular bolt so that I won't have any air gun monkey related problems again and just pop the locker back in when I get home..
Good idea! I normally have a set of VW locking nuts on (not much use as there are only a small number of different key patterns!) and a set of the McGuard ones. I removed the McGuard ones this morning as my car is in today having MOT, service and brake fluid change, so hopefully all will be well later on! :scared:
When removing/swapping your wheels, don't forget to put copper grease on the inside of the wheel where it makes contact with the hub, and also a bit on the thread of the nuts before you refit. Makes removing the wheel next time a lot easier! ..and tighten with a torque wrench to 120 if you can!
Cheers buddy, is that 120ft/llbs? and is that for all the bolts?
I put copper grease on my Pescaras and their bolts but when I had the monza tyres fitted the tyre guy fitted the wheels and I forgot to stick some copper grease on the bolts for him!
I'll remember next time :happy2:
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Thanks Beddie,
What website was I looking at :confused: I certainly didn't see that order page???
It just said to send 18 euro by cash or cheque :stupid:
I'll order two I think....
I hope I don't ruin another key :scared:
No probs mate, glad I could help :happy2:
When you come to have a go at getting it out again, try to tighten up the 4 normal bolts a little more if possible as that should take off the tension on the locker a little and if you have a cross brace type wheel wrench then use that as you can apply some horizontal force to the bolt whilst also turning it, it's usually the twisting motion you get with the oem brace that causes the key to slip if the bolt is very tight
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Thanks again Beddie :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
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They're toss, I've done 3 sets and won't buy them again.
It's not like they're even hard to get off, so they offer about 1 minute's more protection... if they're having your wheels, they're having your wheels. Buy reliable lockers.
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Could someone local with the same brand locking wheel nut not help or are every single key they make different?
Like said try tighten all 4 bolts around the nut and try that way!
Was it done at Kwik-Fit? If so my brother works there and all normal nuts can be buzzed gunned on but they are NOT aloud to use the air gun on locking wheel nuts, it's company policy, if that's the case then get back to them and explain as it was tightened with the gun it has caused it to snap, they then need to get it removed!
Hope this helps!
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Cheers buddy, is that 120ft/llbs? and is that for all the bolts?
120NM = 89 lbs/ft for all bolts AFAIK. :happy2:
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Monte before you splash out the 18 or 36 Euros get in touch with Mcgard in Germany as their customer service is excellent. Over the last few years I have received 3 replacement keys off them FOC. First one went and so I got them to send me one under warranty plus I bought one @ 18 euros as a spare. When both of those rounded off I got back in touch with them and they sent me 2 more new ones under warranty.
I'm at work at the moment but could send you copies of the emails I sent to them when I got mine replaced.
Ste