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Title: Advice on dp fitting
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 25, 2011, 10:39:11 am
A couple of months ago I acquired a Milltek downpipe for my vRS, well today it is finally getting fitted, however the remap will not happen until early in the new year.  The question is, I have been told that the turbo may over boost as a result of the fitting, also I may or may not get a CEL with the Milltek.  I know from a previous post that some members fitted an uprated downpipe and ran the stock map for extended periods.  I really just want conformation that leaving it at stage 1 for a couple of months will not be detrimental to the engine?  If there could be issues, I will hold off getting it fitted until I'm ready for the map.

Cheers, Lee.
Title: Re: Advice on dp fitting
Post by: dodds-gttdi on November 25, 2011, 10:52:41 am
Hmmm, good question Lee. I'd like to knwo this too. I'm looking at freeing up the exhaust on my Golf, ideally doing away with the cat and silencers, possible straight pipe from turbo back.  :surprised: I'm running a stage 1 map but am in the same boat as you, would prob be a month or so til I can get the map tweaked.

What other mods are you planning to fit to achieve stage 2? Mines is a diesel so prob not the same as your's, does the vRS doenpipe have a lambda or o2 sensor plugged into it?
Title: Re: Advice on dp fitting
Post by: edd666999 on November 25, 2011, 10:56:33 am
I ran with stage 2+ hardware and standard map for ages, no issues.
Title: Re: Advice on dp fitting
Post by: Hedge on November 25, 2011, 11:43:47 am
What Edd says.  :happy2:

Milltek DP normaly is 200Cel which should leave the CEL light off.
Title: Re: Advice on dp fitting
Post by: martziniuk on November 25, 2011, 12:10:48 pm
You may get a cel, I did with decat occasionally on stage 1 but you shouldn't have an overboost issue and the car will run fine with the cel on. I never noticed much difference after fitting the Downpipe on stage 1 tbh but it did spool up a little earlier.
Title: Re: Advice on dp fitting
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 25, 2011, 12:18:44 pm
Hmmm, good question Lee. I'd like to knwo this too. I'm looking at freeing up the exhaust on my Golf, ideally doing away with the cat and silencers, possible straight pipe from turbo back.  :surprised: I'm running a stage 1 map but am in the same boat as you, would prob be a month or so til I can get the map tweaked.

What other mods are you planning to fit to achieve stage 2? Mines is a diesel so prob not the same as your's, does the vRS doenpipe have a lambda or o2 sensor plugged into it?

I already have an Evoms intake which went on prior to stage 1, all that's really needed for stage 2 on the K03 Tfsi is a hi-flow downpipe with either sport or decat, obviously on a petrol the later is an MOT failure.  If I'm honest I thought about the next stage on swmbo's Golf, but tbh unless you are talking hybrid turbo I don't think changing the exhaust will give you much more power.  My dp has O2 sensors post and pre cat mate, it's the one after the cat that causes a CEL due to the increased flow of exhaust gases.  Apparently the yanks fit a angle bolt to move the sensor out of the flow which stops the fault.

I ran with stage 2+ hardware and standard map for ages, no issues.

I'm pretty sure both you and Red Robin mentioned that in my previous post.......

What Edd says.  :happy2:

Milltek DP normaly is 200Cel which should leave the CEL light off.

I have heard that Ian, but Ben was running a 2.75" Milltek on his vRS and it threw up a CEL, I know the Pipewerx definitely does which is also 200 cell, but is a 3" bore.


Title: Re: Advice on dp fitting
Post by: 81lly on November 25, 2011, 03:50:08 pm
I had a Milltek turboback on my stock tdi with no issues.. A different matter on the petrol tho I think
Title: Re: Advice on dp fitting
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 25, 2011, 04:14:17 pm
Thanks for the advice guys, the milltek is being fitted as I type.......I hope!  :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Advice on dp fitting
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 25, 2011, 08:24:42 pm
Milltek on, little burble but nothing major and no CEL yet!
Title: Re: Advice on dp fitting
Post by: dodds-gttdi on November 25, 2011, 08:59:19 pm
Love-lee!! No not u Lee. Just lovely. Altho I think we need pics and video to prove the awesome sound. :happy2:
Title: Re: Advice on dp fitting
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 26, 2011, 09:24:32 am
Sorry Sandy, I don't do sound bites, I'm selfish like that...... :P
Title: Re: Advice on dp fitting
Post by: dodds-gttdi on November 26, 2011, 12:03:16 pm
:signlol: :happy2:
Title: Re: Advice on dp fitting
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 26, 2011, 12:46:03 pm
Been out for a spin earlier and tbh if I hadn't seen it fitted for myself, I would say the dp hasn't been changed.  I'm not expecting miracles from the existing map, but I was hoping for a little difference in performance and noise, perhaps the ECU needs to adapt?   :sad1:
Title: Re: Advice on dp fitting
Post by: edd666999 on November 26, 2011, 12:47:23 pm
Been out for a spin earlier and tbh if I hadn't seen it fitted for myself, I would say the dp hasn't been changed.  I'm not expecting miracles from the existing map, but I was hoping for a little difference in performance and noise, perhaps the ECU needs to adapt?   :sad1:

i would expect power earlier but not any extra power ontop
Title: Re: Advice on dp fitting
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 26, 2011, 01:21:36 pm
Been out for a spin earlier and tbh if I hadn't seen it fitted for myself, I would say the dp hasn't been changed.  I'm not expecting miracles from the existing map, but I was hoping for a little difference in performance and noise, perhaps the ECU needs to adapt?   :sad1:

i would expect power earlier but not any extra power ontop

What about once the stage 2 sortware is on?
Title: Re: Advice on dp fitting
Post by: Dan648v on November 26, 2011, 01:24:47 pm
Been out for a spin earlier and tbh if I hadn't seen it fitted for myself, I would say the dp hasn't been changed.  I'm not expecting miracles from the existing map, but I was hoping for a little difference in performance and noise, perhaps the ECU needs to adapt?   :sad1:


To be fair I noticed the same, no extra power just noise. But I knew it would need a map to enhance it!! It's only on there as is till I decide where to take it for mapping. I wouldn't expect miracles mate the car still thinks the cars standard!
Title: Re: Advice on dp fitting
Post by: edd666999 on November 26, 2011, 01:26:29 pm
Been out for a spin earlier and tbh if I hadn't seen it fitted for myself, I would say the dp hasn't been changed.  I'm not expecting miracles from the existing map, but I was hoping for a little difference in performance and noise, perhaps the ECU needs to adapt?   :sad1:

i would expect power earlier but not any extra power ontop

What about once the stage 2 sortware is on?

 :driver:  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Advice on dp fitting
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 26, 2011, 01:41:05 pm
In that case....... :pomppomp:  :party:
Title: Re: Advice on dp fitting
Post by: W8 Performance on November 26, 2011, 09:25:15 pm
Stage 2 is calling you  :wink:
Title: Re: Advice on dp fitting
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 26, 2011, 10:01:16 pm
Stage 2 is calling you  :wink:

Ohhhhhh yes!