MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: keano on November 25, 2011, 05:53:31 pm
Sods law. On the eve of Stage2, the f*cker breaks down.

When coming to a stop the car will loose all revs and just stall. It's intermittent so some times it will happen every time you start the engine. And some times it won't.

The pudding heads at the AA plugged in diagnostics and it showed nothing apart from the catalytic convertor light due to the 3" downpipe decat but it's just a basic bit of kit.

Any ideas guys? I'm ready to throw a match on the thing.  :sad1: :sad1:

Nick

Ps. Car is dsg
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: alexperkins on November 25, 2011, 05:57:05 pm
Odd that a DSG will just loose revs and stall

Can you get VCDS on it properly?
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: keano on November 25, 2011, 05:58:40 pm
Odd that a DSG will just loose revs and stall

Can you get VCDS on it properly?

I don't have it mate. :(

And my garage won't open till monday
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: alexperkins on November 25, 2011, 05:59:01 pm
Where are you based?
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: keano on November 25, 2011, 06:01:16 pm
Where are you based?

Doncaster  :sick:
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: keano on November 25, 2011, 06:02:01 pm
Could the fitting of coilovers have knocked something?
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: alexperkins on November 25, 2011, 06:03:11 pm
Miles away from me  :sad1: Would of scanned it if I was closer!

Have you checked coilpacks/sparks?

Umm it depends there are some fragile sensors down there, but I wouldn't think they could have got to them from the wheel arches

Did it just start to happen out the blue?
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: keano on November 25, 2011, 06:10:55 pm
Yeah since the coileys coincidently.  :confused:

...well a day after
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: vRSAlex on November 25, 2011, 06:27:28 pm
Is the oil cap on and is the dipstick pushed down all the way?

Do you get any engine lights?
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: gulfstream11 on November 25, 2011, 06:29:17 pm
Nick.. I will PM you Dannyboys number.. The Jetta you detailed a few weeks back.His mate has vagcom and has offered his services.
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: keano on November 25, 2011, 06:30:59 pm
Cheers gulf.  :happy2:

Yeah their all the way down alex. When I pull out the dipstick it runs lumpy.

*they're  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: Russ_leeds on November 25, 2011, 06:48:07 pm
do these cars have an egr valve? my old astra used to do this and changing the egr valve sorted it
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: PDT on November 25, 2011, 07:47:26 pm
 :sad1:

Been mapping boring, non challenging stuff all week, was looking forward to doing a nice stg2 Tfsi tomorrow.

If it will make it up here then I will gladly give it a look over, im guessing a fuel pressure issue when it cuts out is it when coming to a stop or does it cut out randomly, i.e at speed and under load?

You have my number if you need any help over the weekend. I have a guy in Doncaster with vagcom, sure he will help out if hes available over the weekend.
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: PDT on November 25, 2011, 07:57:57 pm
Spoke to my mate in Doncaster, he is away all weekend but will gladly help you out on monday if required :happy2:
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: PSW on November 25, 2011, 08:07:41 pm
Sorry to hear bout that nick.... Kind of answers my question I asked you via email   :scared:
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: keano on November 26, 2011, 10:45:25 am
Hi Dave,

Thanks for contacting your friend for me.

The car usually cuts out when coming to a stop. But when cold this morning, it cut out about 1,500 revs.

It's pointing towards fuel pressure I guess, but it's very coincidental that it happened after my coilovers been fitted  :confused: :chicken:
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: PDT on November 26, 2011, 10:57:41 am
give it a good look over around the areas where they would have been working when fitting the coilovers, personally cant think of anything that would connect the 2 things.

does it smoothly cut out as in the revs slowly drop and cuts out or does it stutter and choke a bit?
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: keano on November 26, 2011, 11:00:46 am
give it a good look over around the areas where they would have been working when fitting the coilovers, personally cant think of anything that would connect the 2 things.

does it smoothly cut out as in the revs slowly drop and cuts out or does it stutter and choke a bit?

Lovely and smooth haha. It jerks abit when you try and catch it before it cuts out if you get me? But it's usually very smooth.
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: keano on November 26, 2011, 03:28:26 pm
 :sad1:
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: keano on November 27, 2011, 10:11:26 pm
Since the bad day she had Friday I left her on the drive over the weekend.

Went out in it tonight to see if things had changed. I had one loud missfire/pop (like a skyline gtr lol)  and everything seems fine now.

Infact, it's the best it's ever driven. I went through a few heat cycles and turned it on and off a few times and everything seems okay.... Hmmm   :stupid:
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: gulfstream11 on November 28, 2011, 12:46:23 pm
Good... Cos you looked pants in you're mums Volvo... :signLOL:
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: keano on November 28, 2011, 05:11:56 pm
Update:

Vagcom showed intermittent errors with high and low fuel pressures.  :stupid:

Following VCDS's recommendations and that of VagCo, we've ordered a new 'low pressure fuel sensor' for the fuel pump.

This should sort the problems out...
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: RobH on November 28, 2011, 05:23:10 pm
Mine used to do this it was the dv is your a forge one by any chance as they stick and it causes the car to randomly stall when stopping intermitently.
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: keano on November 28, 2011, 05:24:18 pm
Mine used to do this it was the dv is your a forge one by any chance as they stick and it causes the car to randomly stall when stopping intermitently.

It's a new revision D mate.  :sad1:
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: RobH on November 28, 2011, 05:27:18 pm
Just make sure the sensor is clipped on the dv correctly failing that ive no idea.
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: Dannyboy88 on November 28, 2011, 05:46:25 pm
Sorry i could get your car scanned over the weekend mate, trust my friend to be away lol :-( but if anyone in the south yorkshire area needs a Vagcom scan contact me and i'll let my friend know :-) his prices are cheap
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: rich83 on November 28, 2011, 07:00:06 pm
Keano. If you want to borrow my VCDS cable for logging etc. just let me know. I'll send it up to you and you can drop it off at my parents. :-)
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: keano on November 28, 2011, 07:50:21 pm
Keano. If you want to borrow my VCDS cable for logging etc. just let me know. I'll send it up to you and you can drop it off at my parents. :-)

Cheers Richy!  :drinking:  :love:
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on November 28, 2011, 08:23:31 pm

Hope it's sorted Nick  :sad1:  Can borrow my cable as of 12Dec
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: Boothy on November 28, 2011, 08:31:38 pm
That is EXACTLY what happened to mine. VW told me that it was the cam follower and the HPFP however the local specialist said it was the low fuel pressure sensor mounted near the front of the engine. That was a £50 part plus fitting. I did check the came follower my self too.
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: keano on November 28, 2011, 08:55:17 pm
That is EXACTLY what happened to mine. VW told me that it was the cam follower and the HPFP however the local specialist said it was the low fuel pressure sensor mounted near the front of the engine. That was a £50 part plus fitting. I did check the came follower my self too.

Yeah I sh*t a brick when I thought it was the fuel pump! (£400)

Was your car sorted after this then mate?
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: Boothy on November 28, 2011, 09:01:51 pm
Pretty much. Mine got really really bad though and wouldn't find for more than a few seconds. As soon as he swapped the sensor it ran smooth as but I'm convinced it's left a flat spot. Probably just me though that bit.

If you try searching you'll probably find my thread about it which listed the part replaced. I would find it my self but on the phone and its a real pain to cut and paste etc.
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: stealthwolf on November 28, 2011, 09:53:28 pm
I had a similar problem: clicky (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7642.0)

Mine all happened in one day - no problems at all and then suddenly it cut out. I had to keep the revs high and not allow the engine to idle or it would cut out.
Title: Re: Car keeps cutting out :(
Post by: blackmagic on November 28, 2011, 10:27:15 pm
I also have had to change my low fuel pressure sensor on the pump. Similar issues to above. Wasn't to exspensive. Of the top of my head sensor G428. Hope you get it all sorted soon.

On a side note the sports cat is now all on and sorted all be it after a bit more welding usual milltek problems. BDMAlex did a nice job with his welding skills. Thanks for the deal  :smiley: