MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Mk5 GTian on November 29, 2011, 05:08:25 pm
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I stupidly test drove a Focus RS Mountune MP350 yesterday, and it was absolutely awesome.
Luckily the Mrs hated the look of it, but how do I now get similar performance out of my MK5 GTi. Will Stage 3 or 2plus do it?
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K04 upgrade with software... :smiley:
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K04 upgrade with software... :smiley:
Yep... K04 and stage 2+ :happy2:
(ohh.. and fit it with 4x4)
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Why 4x4? RS just has a diff. Ko4 golf would probably be quicker if accompanied by right mods and map.
My mate has just bought a RS, stunning cars and sound the boll*cks!
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I thought the RS were 4x4?
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I thought the RS were 4x4?
Nah both old and new Focus RS#s are fitted with diff's. New one has the added revo knuckle technology just to reduce torque steer i believe.
Big failure on Ford's part i think, would have loved the new RS to have been 4x4, would have made it the complete package.
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I thought the RS were 4x4?
FWD Rich, but has the fancy 'RevoKnuckle' front suspension to tame the torque steer, either that or it lights the CEL light and causes a misfire... :grin:
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I thought the RS were 4x4?
FWD Rich, but has the fancy 'RevoKnuckle' front suspension to tame the torque steer, either that or it lights the CEL light and causes a misfire... :grin:
Well.. everyday is a school day. :signLOL:
Misfire.... what misfire?? :scared:
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I had a mk1 focus and it was a absolute bitch to keep in a line when getting a wobble on.... Seen one stickered up yesterday saying 370 ... So RR debate goes on with the fast ford boys as well :popcornsoda:
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I had a mk1 focus and it was a absolute bitch to keep in a line when getting a wobble on.... Seen one stickered up yesterday saying 370 ... So RR debate goes on with the fast ford boys as well :popcornsoda:
Do you find the golf boring in comparison? I do, i had mk1 RS and had hybrid set up. Was so much fun but was always that "am i going to come back alive" feel about it lol. Golf is just too good a car you know your safe.
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I just sold my 350bhp mk1 rs few months back.what a car.the acceleration was crazy from 2nd through 4th gear.would love the new one as even for front wheel drive it handles great and 400+horses is easily acheiveable.too much cash tho for some little scrote to run a key down it.
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I've been in a 'claimed' 400bhp RS and I have to say it was savage!! My bum dyno told me it was quicker than my ST2+ Eddy....... :popcornsoda:
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I've been in a 'claimed' 400bhp RS and I have to say it was savage!! My bum dyno told me it was quicker than my ST2+ Eddy....... :popcornsoda:
:scared: :scared: :grin:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fv84%2Fbeddie%2Fworms.jpg&hash=7d34bae6be3a7fce9d4c294a851f3ca12627d1ef)
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The only problem with the RS is it's made by Ford.. :booty:
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Big failure on Ford's part i think, would have loved the new RS to have been 4x4, would have made it the complete package.
I haven't read one review that has suggested that the RS would be better with four driven wheels - quite the opposite in fact. You've got to remember that it isn't a safe and predictable Audi. I think the added weight of four wheel drive would have harmed its agility and created quite a numb driving experience.
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I dont think the RS needs 4wd but if you do want it you can get a 4X4 conversion from Wolf and its a 15grand upgrade! My Rs Mk1 is amazing its over 350bhp and it can be a bit twitchy in the wet but aslong as your confident you can get the power down and give it some stick. My mate has an RS Mk2 which is over 400bhp and its soo different to mine, its a lot smoother and a lot more controlled, not as raw as mine, more refined, Mk2 has revo knuckle, mine doesnt but they both have a diff.
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I recognise the name.did you buy my mate Carlos.you have done a good job since then if it's the same person.
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Big failure on Ford's part i think, would have loved the new RS to have been 4x4, would have made it the complete package.
I haven't read one review that has suggested that the RS would be better with four driven wheels - quite the opposite in fact. You've got to remember that it isn't a safe and predictable Audi. I think the added weight of four wheel drive would have harmed its agility and created quite a numb driving experience.
I wouldnt say that, look at polystar's blue c30. 4wd 400bhp, same engine as the RS isnt it. Meant to be an animal around a track. If done correctly i cant see how could harm it. Look at the ones done by andy gallagher up north. Absolute animals of cars they are.
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I know has alot more bhp, but 4wd 300bhp RS as standard would still have been alot of fun imo.
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StephenBM: yeah mate thats me! my brother has a gt tdi so i joined on here to get info about how i can modify it for him! cheers
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Small world!
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StephenBM: yeah mate thats me! my brother has a gt tdi so i joined on here to get info about how i can modify it for him! cheers
thought it was you.im over on passionford,rsoc etc aswell.always be fords for me but i just wanted something i can use everyday without the worry and love the mk5 golfs aswell.
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I thrashed the nuts out of it, in and out of roundabouts and corners, giving it full power and it never lost traction. Never felt less than completely planted and stable. I really didnt have a problem getting the power down on the road. It must be one hell of a diff! Basically, 4wd would only be handy for winter conditions, and would compromise the car in all other situations.
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I've been in a 'claimed' 400bhp RS and I have to say it was savage!! My bum dyno told me it was quicker than my ST2+ Eddy....... :popcornsoda:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fw6%2FCUPRA270%2F24wvcax.gif&hash=65be55754773ccb0ccee92f4a98ead99ed975b35)
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I've been in a 'claimed' 400bhp RS and I have to say it was savage!! My bum dyno told me it was quicker than my ST2+ Eddy....... :popcornsoda:
400bhp RS… that would cane a stage 1 RS3 wouldn’t it? I think the Focus RS has a 100kg weight advantage over the RS3.
Looks like Revo also do a Stage 4+ for the Focus RS which gives 425bhp. This is still on the original turbo as well. Now I can imagine that absolutely wiping the floor with any stg2+ eddy.
Has anyone actually been up against a 350+ bhp Focus RS in their 2+ eddy?
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I've been in a 'claimed' 400bhp RS and I have to say it was savage!! My bum dyno told me it was quicker than my ST2+ Eddy....... :popcornsoda:
400bhp RS… that would cane a stage 1 RS3 wouldn’t it? I think the Focus RS has a 100kg weight advantage over the RS3.
Looks like Revo also do a Stage 4+ for the Focus RS which gives 425bhp. This is still on the original turbo as well. Now I can imagine that absolutely wiping the floor with any stg2+ eddy.
Has anyone actually been up against a 350+ bhp Focus RS in their 2+ eddy?
:wink:
A Stage 2+ DSG car will compete, but manual will struggle when north of 400bhp in the RS..
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What's a K04 upgrade, and what does it cost?
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What's a K04 upgrade, and what does it cost?
http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/product.php?xProd=16226&xSec=151
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not been in a modded RS yet but mines having a tweak in the new year, all i can say is the standard car puts it power down great :driver: hardly any dramer in dry conditions at all and the noise is just :evilgrin:
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My friend has a pretty famous one it's about 430bhp, felt fast but not brutal, once my Eddie gets back from revo Were going to compare, he's happy to see how things pan out and is up for a play :party:
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Very nice car,sounds really really good, still prefer my golf tho :love:
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Great, cheers for that.
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Is that your friend stood in the bin. :P
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Yes it's what he likes to do in his spare time :signLOL:
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that sir looks the dogs boll*x :drool: :drool:
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that sir looks the dogs boll*x :drool: :drool:
Just given it a detail today ready for its photoshoot tomoz for fast ford :star:
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Ive got a mk2 rs and they are awesome as a package i reccon a stage 2 + eddy would take an mp350 but for a grand more you are looking at 400 bhp and those are proper quick, quickest thing ive ever been in. I think from standard £3600 gets you about 420bhp and 500lbft of torque feckin monsters, tbh i loved my mk5 gti and edition 30 and i cant think of anything else id rather have for under 15k, the mk2 rs might be a ford but it doesnt feel like a ford, i still cant get over the grip you get from them considdering they are fwd, you really need to wrestle them though !
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drive a golf with the power and a diff then compare :smiley: the diff makes a massive thing for us fwd guys and if you don't have one then your going to struggle with grip
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Im not just talking about on the power grip where diffs come in to play, these things are feckin sticky on and off the power, ive never driven a golf diffed up no doubt it will be great, like i said love the mk5 its one of the best cars ive owned and pips the focus in some aspects too
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Any 1/4 mile times for these 400+bhp RS MK2's ?
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I bet stevie jr's down at statllers would give one of these 420hp cars a scare, what do u say hurdy? Wait till people see his next incarnation :signLOL:
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Any 1/4 mile times for these 400+bhp RS MK2's ?
This was a run I did against a JWR400 RS at Pod when I fluffed my start John..
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I'm in the right lane.. :wink: He did run a better terminal later IIRC (109).
Quickest Mk2 I know of at Pod ran a 12.8 @ 114-115mph. But that had 450+, LC, 888's the full works. Awesome bit of kit it was, but not as quick as I would of thought for the power..
To be fair though, this isn't just there forte. They (as mentioned) are an awesome package. You will need a DSG Stage 2+ car to stick with on 400+ RS..
380+ RS vs Stage 2+ manual Eddie (1:25 into this video)..
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At a recent mk2 rs meet i was at at sitech, there was a guy with a js 400 who done 10 runs at crail and 6 of them were 13 dead, i think he is the holder of the fastest fwd car there, that was with road tyres there is another guy with the 400 pack and sitech plenum that runs 12.9, pretty quick like !
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I almost bought an Rs in green mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i drove it and gave it a good drive on roads i know well, after coming from a 172cup it felt a bit tame tbh. I then drove my brothers mk5 gti with 300 bhp and it felt alive it was awsome, by the time i bought it its back down to stage 1 but i decided not to stretch myslef as much due to a new house purchase. I do absolutley love the RS though but as standard it needs more power for me, if i had 20k for a car i would definatly have one i love them
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I almost bought an Rs in green mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i drove it and gave it a good drive on roads i know well, after coming from a 172cup it felt a bit tame tbh. I then drove my brothers mk5 gti with 300 bhp and it felt alive it was awsome, by the time i bought it its back down to stage 1 but i decided not to stretch myslef as much due to a new house purchase. I do absolutley love the RS though but as standard it needs more power for me, if i had 20k for a car i would definatly have one i love them
This MP350 was unbelievable Rob. I'm VW though, through and through, so I'm going to try and get mine as close to this leve lof performance as possible. Was your brother's on Stage 2 plus before you bought it?
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I bet stevie jr's down at statllers would give one of these 420hp cars a scare, what do u say hurdy? Wait till people see his next incarnation :signLOL:
Steve Jr's car is a hybrid K04 with water/meth and a REVO extreme map on it - 430+bhp and 400+lbft with a DSG gearbox and ATB LSD - it did a 12.7 at Inters on Sunday this year. I've been in it and let's just say a FWD Focus RS in any tune would get hammered on a 1/4 mile and I reckon on a 30-130 it would do a 10 second run :evilgrin:
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MK2 RS is a beast, 300hp from stock with an LSD & fancy suspension.... Lovely Recaro seats.... But it's still a ford. Don't get me wrong it's a lovely car and prob a savage hatch but if given the choice I'd take a stage 2 ED30 with quaife :happy2:
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I've been in a 'claimed' 400bhp RS and I have to say it was savage!! My bum dyno told me it was quicker than my ST2+ Eddy....... :popcornsoda:
400bhp RS… that would cane a stage 1 RS3 wouldn’t it? I think the Focus RS has a 100kg weight advantage over the RS3.
Looks like Revo also do a Stage 4+ for the Focus RS which gives 425bhp. This is still on the original turbo as well. Now I can imagine that absolutely wiping the floor with any stg2+ eddy.
Has anyone actually been up against a 350+ bhp Focus RS in their 2+ eddy?
I think it would be the other way round buddy, a Stage 1 RS3 will do 0-60 in 3.6 with LC, that's just with a simple map, no sticky tyres, lighter wheels, suspension mods etc etc..I doubt very much a Focus RS can compete with that no matter how much money it has had thrown at it. When rolling there would be nothing in it, the S-Tronic gearbox in the RS3 makes a big difference....
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I really like these, and they sound awesome in standard form:
What puts me off is the gash interior (apart from the Recaros) and the depreciation
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I almost bought an Rs in green mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i drove it and gave it a good drive on roads i know well, after coming from a 172cup it felt a bit tame tbh. I then drove my brothers mk5 gti with 300 bhp and it felt alive it was awsome, by the time i bought it its back down to stage 1 but i decided not to stretch myslef as much due to a new house purchase. I do absolutley love the RS though but as standard it needs more power for me, if i had 20k for a car i would definatly have one i love them
This MP350 was unbelievable Rob. I'm VW though, through and through, so I'm going to try and get mine as close to this leve lof performance as possible. Was your brother's on Stage 2 plus before you bought it?
yeah it was stage 2 plus, he had 2 seperate rolling roads done, one at 295 i think and one at 312 or there abouts anyway
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Last year when I went to Spa there were a few Focus RS's, one in green and one in white, neither were as fast as I thought and both were tuned to what I believe was 385bhp (said it on the side decals) overtook both of them on the straights too. :driver:
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I can put this to bed now. I just saw a Focus RS next to a Golf R.
It was like seeing Jordan next to Sienna Miller.
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I can put this to bed now. I just saw a Focus RS next to a Golf R.
It was like seeing Jordan next to Sienna Miller.
Know what you mean, jordan would be filth and sienna would be like a sack of spuds, so RS it is i guess :wink:
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I can put this to bed now. I just saw a Focus RS next to a Golf R.
It was like seeing Jordan next to Sienna Miller.
Know what you mean, jordan would be filth and sienna would be like a sack of spuds, so RS it is i guess :wink:
Ha ha!
Whatever floats ya boat! I must be getting old!
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What's the motoring equivalent of genital warts though?
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An MG ZT-T 260. Painful to own, and you're stuck with it for life.
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The RS is an awsome car i just got rid of mine, it was running a massive spec, put the power down and drove better than any other car ive driven in my time, im new to VW scene but the person to speak to is my pal PETE owner of Demon performance centre ex head Technition at awsome GTI, he will give you the answers to the questions others cant answer and his work is outstanding.
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I just sold my 350bhp mk1 rs few months back.what a car.the acceleration was crazy from 2nd through 4th gear.would love the new one as even for front wheel drive it handles great and 400+horses is easily acheiveable.too much cash tho for some little scrote to run a key down it.
+1 were you on RSOC? :happy2: