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Title: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: skard on December 12, 2011, 02:27:39 pm
It looks like I need to replace the tailgate struts.

Before I replace with normal parts, I was wondering if any of you guys with the boot poppping kit can confirm whether it's better than standard?

I get the impression it's fairly unreliable - is that right?

Thanks
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: rich83 on December 12, 2011, 02:41:58 pm
Mine worked about 98% of the time. But, it does make the boot quite stiff to shut.
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: skard on December 12, 2011, 02:56:03 pm
Cheers.

The times it didn't work, could you just open it manually all the same? And was it mainly under certain conditions it wouldn't work, such as cold temperatures?
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: fab5freddy on December 12, 2011, 03:54:48 pm
Mine worked about 98% of the time. But, it does make the boot quite stiff to shut.

x2 Generally when cold you will have problems with opening, but no big deal just a light pull on the lid and away you go  :happy2:

Worth it IMO, have two year old so comes in handy
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: skard on December 12, 2011, 04:00:31 pm
Nice, so the consensus is to go for it?

Anyone had luck chinning a passer by yet?  :innocent:
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: daveangel on December 12, 2011, 04:34:26 pm
mine never works.  you guys using the scirocco bump stops?  have you puts loads of pressure on them?
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: CAPTAIN BRITAIN on December 12, 2011, 05:05:06 pm
mine never works.  you guys using the scirocco bump stops?  have you puts loads of pressure on them?

This may be a really silly question but...You have had it coded right?  if you have apologies  :wink:
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: daveangel on December 12, 2011, 05:19:51 pm
As far as I know the coding only pops the lock which works everytime. But the struts don't have enough to start the movement. Second time usually works if you try again straight away?
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: vwrascal on December 12, 2011, 05:53:55 pm
As far as I know the coding only pops the lock which works everytime. But the struts don't have enough to start the movement. Second time usually works if you try again straight away?

Exactly sane as mine, only works the second time! I fitted this 3 months ago (brand new genine parts from stealers) and has barely worked the first time you pop.  :sad1:
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: rich83 on December 12, 2011, 06:01:45 pm
Have you tried adjusting the rocco sprung bumpers?
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: Phil Miller on December 12, 2011, 07:40:14 pm
Does anyone know the part numbers of the new bits that need fitting?
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: fab5freddy on December 12, 2011, 10:23:00 pm
Does anyone know the part numbers of the new bits that need fitting?

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,31120.0.html (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,31120.0.html)   :happy2:
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: skard on December 14, 2011, 01:17:23 pm
Just ordered the whole kit from a Skoda dealer on eBay, got some extra little bits I need for other things at the same time  :party:
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: CAPTAIN BRITAIN on December 14, 2011, 01:25:03 pm
Can you direct me to the skoda dealer on ebay, as i would like to order these items also, Thanks  :happy2:
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: JoeDarKa on December 14, 2011, 01:30:29 pm
Linky please!  :santa:
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: skard on December 14, 2011, 01:35:34 pm
Can you direct me to the skoda dealer on ebay, as i would like to order these items also, Thanks  :happy2:

Not a problem, I bought eBay item 320733062892 & asked if he could provide the other bits, which he will :happy2:

Normally I'd order parts in at my dealer as they've always been spot on but it's 15 miles away and I have a lot going on this coming week.
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: skard on December 14, 2011, 01:36:22 pm
Don't go ordering until mine has been packed up  :P
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: Jaywoo-GTI on December 14, 2011, 01:41:49 pm
How much did you pay in total if you dont mind mme asking?
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: skard on December 14, 2011, 01:46:10 pm
How much did you pay in total if you dont mind mme asking?

1K8827761C - 2@£4.63
1J6827439A  - 2@£5.49
6Y0827550C - 2@£16.99

£54.22 delivered for the boot pop kit, plus I got some repair wires and plugs on top.
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: CAPTAIN BRITAIN on December 14, 2011, 01:54:13 pm
Can you direct me to the skoda dealer on ebay, as i would like to order these items also, Thanks  :happy2:

Not a problem, I bought eBay item 320733062892 & asked if he could provide the other bits, which he will :happy2:

Normally I'd order parts in at my dealer as they've always been spot on but it's 15 miles away and I have a lot going on this coming week.

Thanks, Appreciated   :xmaspresent:
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: Jaywoo-GTI on December 14, 2011, 01:56:23 pm
Thanks Skard. :happy2:
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: ConeKiller on December 14, 2011, 03:44:38 pm
As they are all part of the same company can you order these parts from a VW dealer or would I have to go to all three?
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: Matto on December 14, 2011, 03:48:54 pm
You can order everything through vw. I did with mine no probs.
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: ConeKiller on December 14, 2011, 03:56:54 pm
cheers fella  :xmaspresent:
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: Lee01 on December 15, 2011, 09:20:31 am
Would anyone happen to know where about in VCDS you change the programming to active the boot to 'Pop' rather than unlock?

Thank you Guys.
Lee
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: Mandy on December 15, 2011, 09:36:13 am
These pages might give you an idea  :smiley:

http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/267656.aspx

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118282
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: Timvgti on December 15, 2011, 01:46:08 pm
How comes some complete kits (ball pins, scirocco bumpers, struts and correct vcds coding) work all the time (only not when extremely cold) and others won't work the first time (only when opening manually, closing and trying again)...?
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: Lee01 on December 15, 2011, 09:48:26 pm
These pages might give you an idea  :smiley:

http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/t/267656.aspx

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118282

Thank you for your help Mandy!   :happy2:

Lee
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: skard on December 20, 2011, 05:14:12 pm
Well my boot pop kit came today via DPD and I wasted no time putting it in. Will use the eBay dealer again when I need to order stuff when away from home.

Mod works ok most of the time, backed the bump off with a, anti-clockwise turn and it has responded better, although it is very cold here and it may be affecting it (I hope!). Got going eventually but very slowly to begin with when it does. Think it'll need more adjustment in daylight.

Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: Matto on December 20, 2011, 06:35:29 pm
I wouldn't worry too much about it. It will be the cold weather. Mine is the same. Its only because the gas pressure decreases slightly when its cold out.
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: skard on December 21, 2011, 07:29:03 pm
Aye, I see what you're saying.

Used it a few times today and it popped all the way every time.

Even when it just pops a bit it's still handier than before.
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: Eddie-NL on December 21, 2011, 07:39:28 pm
I would recommend to fill the socket on the struts with grease
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: skard on December 21, 2011, 07:41:16 pm
I would recommend to fill the socket on the struts with grease

Any particular tried, tested and trusted one for this mod?
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: Matto on December 21, 2011, 08:19:03 pm
One other thing I had with mine was the new stops were rubbing on the little black pads causing a squeeking as I was driving. Got the vaseline out earlier and smeared some on the pads and its disappeared  :happy2:
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: skard on April 05, 2013, 12:19:35 pm
Found my old thread as I had a failing strut after only 16 months with not that much use.
The strut has been rattling when driving and hardly working when popped, even when not that cold.

Anyway, before I bin the mod I got two new (pattern) struts off ebay for £15.50 delivered, just put them on and it worked first time, even withoiut me 'pumping' the tailgate and my car is also on a decline with the temp about 2-3C here today.

They are marked 600N, but I'll see how long they are usable for. Being brand new I'd expect them to pop every time anyway.
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: berg on April 05, 2013, 12:40:08 pm
One other thing I had with mine was the new stops were rubbing on the little black pads causing a squeeking as I was driving. Got the vaseline out earlier and smeared some on the pads and its disappeared  :happy2:


mine is doing this and driving me nuts only just worked out it was this so not fixed it yet

i spoke to an engineer friend and in his opinion white lithium grease was not the best lube to use due to it being quite thick in lower temps, so suggested liquid silicone or the spray grease in the can which is very thin also.

personally, i do agree with those who have the RVC fitted that this mod is going to work sporadically at best.
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: JStav on April 05, 2013, 01:18:29 pm
Had it done for months but the coding never worked so was an absolutely pointless mod for me  :sad1:

Heard the coding might be different on 05 plates but never found anything concrete on it.  Boooooo!
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: Eddie-NL on April 05, 2013, 01:26:40 pm
One other thing I had with mine was the new stops were rubbing on the little black pads causing a squeeking as I was driving. Got the vaseline out earlier and smeared some on the pads and its disappeared  :happy2:


mine is doing this and driving me nuts only just worked out it was this so not fixed it yet

i spoke to an engineer friend and in his opinion white lithium grease was not the best lube to use due to it being quite thick in lower temps, so suggested liquid silicone or the spray grease in the can which is very thin also.

personally, i do agree with those who have the RVC fitted that this mod is going to work sporadically at best.

I wouldn't and didn't use white lithium grease for this

I had this on my golf with RVC and no problem with it opening, in my opinion if it doesn't work properly it is not installed correctly
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: fab5freddy on April 05, 2013, 02:41:01 pm
Found my old thread as I had a failing strut after only 16 months with not that much use.
The strut has been rattling when driving and hardly working when popped, even when not that cold.

Anyway, before I bin the mod I got two new (pattern) struts off ebay for £15.50 delivered, just put them on and it worked first time, even withoiut me 'pumping' the tailgate and my car is also on a decline with the temp about 2-3C here today.

They are marked 600N, but I'll see how long they are usable for. Being brand new I'd expect them to pop every time anyway.

Any linky Skard to said struts?  :drinking:
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: skard on April 05, 2013, 02:52:33 pm
Any linky Skard to said struts?  :drinking:

Certainly mate, ebay 150796090490
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: fab5freddy on April 18, 2013, 09:25:42 pm
Just fitted these new struts today and  :jumpmove: :jumpmove: :jumpmove:

Working again for the first time in about 6 months, even parked facing downhill, opens every time

 :drinking: :drinking:
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: skard on April 18, 2013, 09:28:11 pm
Nice one.

Time will tell to see if it's the 'new' factor or whether they're a more reliable strut.

But at less than half the price it ain't all bad
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: Timvgti on November 05, 2013, 09:46:14 am
I removed my hatchpops (skoda struts, Leon ballpins and scirocco bumpers) last winter because it wouldn't open with the cold weather. Then I lost the two scirocco bumpers, so bought two new ones and decided to reinstall everything again last week.
Sadly it doesn't open anymore. Only when I manually opened and closed the hatch (pumping the struts).
But not when I didn't use the hatch for some hours...
How comes? I've tried the scirocco bumpers flat and with one click out.
Temperature is around 50 Fahrenheit in the Netherlands.
How/what can I adjust?
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: Timvgti on November 12, 2013, 10:53:07 pm
Anyone?!
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: Scottymon on November 12, 2013, 10:56:15 pm
It's a summer weather mod mate... it's well documented that the Boot pop mod is only good when the weather is warmer - I ditched mine.
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: fab5freddy on November 13, 2013, 06:43:04 am
Buy the ebay struts that Skard  posted in reply No. 39, works every time without fail   :happy2:
Title: Re: Re: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: jason_rmh on November 13, 2013, 07:14:42 am
I removed my hatchpops (skoda struts, Leon ballpins and scirocco bumpers) last winter because it wouldn't open with the cold weather. Then I lost the two scirocco bumpers, so bought two new ones and decided to reinstall everything again last week.
Sadly it doesn't open anymore. Only when I manually opened and closed the hatch (pumping the struts).
But not when I didn't use the hatch for some hours...
How comes? I've tried the scirocco bumpers flat and with one click out.
Temperature is around 50 Fahrenheit in the Netherlands.
How/what can I adjust?
You need to adjust the bumpers out a couple more clicks. Giving the spring in them more travel, more power to pop the tailgate.
Jas
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: skard on November 13, 2013, 09:33:09 am
Buy the ebay struts that Skard  posted in reply No. 39, works every time without fail   :happy2:

Mine are sticking a bit on frosty mornings with these ones, still much better value than OEM though.

Not complaining, even popping it open that wee bit helps with hands full of shopping.
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: fab5freddy on November 13, 2013, 09:37:05 am
IMO it's the Skoda struts that are just not quite up to the job, fine in the summer but when it's cold they struggle.

The ebay ones have a slightly more push enabling them to open all weathers
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: xjay1337 on November 13, 2013, 09:38:22 am
Buy the ebay struts that Skard  posted in reply No. 39, works every time without fail   :happy2:

For £70... ??  :confused:
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: skard on November 13, 2013, 09:44:24 am
Inflated price probably due to low stock, they are £15 normally
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: fab5freddy on November 13, 2013, 09:45:56 am
yeah that's weird £14 something plus shipping a couple of days ago  :rolleye:
Title: Re: Re: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: Timvgti on November 13, 2013, 09:50:27 am
I removed my hatchpops (skoda struts, Leon ballpins and scirocco bumpers) last winter because it wouldn't open with the cold weather. Then I lost the two scirocco bumpers, so bought two new ones and decided to reinstall everything again last week.
Sadly it doesn't open anymore. Only when I manually opened and closed the hatch (pumping the struts).
But not when I didn't use the hatch for some hours...
How comes? I've tried the scirocco bumpers flat and with one click out.
Temperature is around 50 Fahrenheit in the Netherlands.
How/what can I adjust?
You need to adjust the bumpers out a couple more clicks. Giving the spring in them more travel, more power to pop the tailgate.
Jas

I've tried zero, one and two 'clicks' on the Scirocco bumpers.
With more clicks I think the tailgate isn't going to sit 'flush'.
How many clicks are you talking about? (I'm using the skoda struts, not the eBay ones).
Title: Re: Boot pop mod - advice
Post by: xjay1337 on November 13, 2013, 09:50:40 am
Inflated price probably due to low stock, they are £15 normally

Yup probably .