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General => Random Chat => Topic started by: berg on December 30, 2011, 12:04:55 pm
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ok so based on what have seen so far (and before you ask i am a Liverpool fan) would go for -
Reina (most clean sheets, and usually good for couple of assists too)
Evra Jones Kompany Richards (nice 50/50 Manc Defence)
Nani Lampard Silva Bale (no defence but hey with that midfield who needs a holding player?)
Van Persie Aguero (unstoppable combo surely?)
Bench - Hart, Skrtel, Enrique, Mata, Dempsey, Rooney, Ba
Ok, lets have your team to put mine to the sword!
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Would have to vary your team slightly as Richards does not play every game and some defenders are less well known but on fantasy leagues have more points!.
My team would be:- 3-4-3
GK:- Vorm (swansea)
DEF:- Jones, Kompany, Evra, (good for assists and goals)
MID:- Nani, Silva, Bale, Dempsey
FWD:- Van Persie, Ba, Aguero
Bench:- Hart, Adebayor, Rooney, Skrtel, Ryan taylor, Van Der Vaart, Mata
IN fact 8 of the 11 in my 1st team are in my fantasy league and so are 2 of the subs :popcornsoda:
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Gk joe hart, rb Kyle walker, cb Vincent kompany, cb younes kaboul, lb Enrique
Lm Gareth bale, cm Luke modric, cm ya ya toure, rm David silva out of position I know, but gotta get him in
St Mario balotelli and dean Sturridge
It's all about the pace and power with that team, match for anyone lol
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Vorm has been brilliant, and yes if play 4-3-3 would dump Fat Frank and put Ba in up front.
Ryan Taylor has not been that great has he?
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Ryan taylor is 7th in Defenders league (Highest points based on goals, assists and clean sheets) on fantasy league, he is in my team and thus far netted me 72 points and for a bargain 5Mil on the league, Skrtel only has 1 point more but costs 1.1Mil more, so taylors a brgain! :happy2:
My fantasy team currently reads.
Lindegaard, Jones, Vermaelen, Kompany, Sessegnon, Bale, Nani, Silva, Adebayor, Van Persie, Ba
Subs:- Vorm, Ryan taylor, Simpson (newcastle), Britton (Swansea)
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Defenders wise Kyle Walker and Vermaelen could be in with a shout of getting into the team.
Spurs are looking good for 3rd at mo, leaving Chelski, Arse and Liverpool scrapping for 4th but Liverpool wont come 4th or 5th unless start scoring (Andy Carroll hat trick tonight? :xmaspresent:) lol
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heres hoping nani can continue his recent form and rooney to start scoring again, come on your reds! (United)
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Would noene have Krul in there team?
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Would noene have Krul in there team?
Yeah he has done well but slipped a bit of late, I think of the bargain basement keepers not expected to excel Vorm is the clear winner. Ba and Steven Taylor (until got injured) are Newcastles stand out players imo.
So who for the drop? I think QPR and two of the old Lancashire three...
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Yea, Vorm has been a great bargain..
I think we will striuggle a little when Ba & Tiote go to the African Nations!!
I think the bottom three as it is now will all go..
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Yea, Vorm has been a great bargain..
I think we will striuggle a little when Ba & Tiote go to the African Nations!!
I think the bottom three as it is now will all go..
I did think Bolton would get out of it but now not so sure as have not replaced Elmander/Nolan etc.
Also, thought Wigan were dead and buried but think they may have a chance now to pull Wolves/QPR in instead of them if Moses/Rodallega can score a few
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Dont think Bolton will get out, especialy with Cahill off to Chelsea..
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Dont think Bolton will get out, especialy with Cahill off to Chelsea..
But they have the prolific David Nogo up front :laugh:
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Dont think Bolton will get out, especialy with Cahill off to Chelsea..
But they have the prolific David Nogo up front :laugh:
:signLOL:
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Ha Ngog, sunday league player who blagged his way into the prem!.
For me the teams for the drop are:-
Blackburn
Bolton
Swansea (Welsh Teams should not be in the English premier League!, whats next Motherwell and sligo rovers?)
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yeah i agree re swansea, although have nothing else against them except should not be in this league; but would like swansea, qpr and blackburn to go down - but i dont think it will be those three
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Easy
Hart
Richards. Kompany. Lescott. Zabaletta
Silva. Ya ya toure. Barry. Johnson
Aguero. Balotelli
End of thread :P
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Easy
Hart
Richards. Kompany. Lescott. Zabaletta
Silva. Ya ya toure. Barry. Johnson
Aguero. Balotelli
End of thread :P
You a Man U fan? :signLOL:
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No he is an ex chelski fan that now supports city
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Not sure on a complete team but to name one or two, despite making often routine saves, Joe Hart has still been superb and is arguably one of the best goalkeepers in the world today.
I think Patrice Evra has been far from consistent, a little bit like Michael Carrick who has had two superb games recently but earlier in the season went missing. His distribution and awareness are both either very poor, or very good. He's not consistent enough for me. I think when Tom Cleverly is back in the side, he'll make Carrick look better (again!).
Nani also still blows hot and cold and can't seem to have more than two good performances in a row.
Agree with Phil Jones being featured- he's been very impressive and could probably play in three or four different positions competently. I'd use him as a centre back or defensive midfielder for United & England given the choice.
When featured, I think Adam Johnson has been very good also but unfortunately he won't show up enough to get a run in the team, a symptom of having the squad depth that City have.
Vorm and Ba have also been big surprises so far, both pulling out performances week in, week out.
Wes Hoolahan at Norwich is also one that's quietly performed in the games I've seen him in. He's supplied much of Grant Holt's firepower this season and I didn't think either of these two would cut it at Premiership level, but they're proving me wrong so far :happy2: Norwich may well still go down of course and even if they don't, next season will be the harder one of the two for them but they'll be fighting I'm sure, whatever happens.
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Manchester born and bread now living in leics
40 years of heartbreak now living the dream :jumpmove:
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Manchester born and bread now living in leics
40 years of heartbreak now living the dream :jumpmove:
For now, until the Arabs get bored, then your history :grin:
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Do not want to turn this into a man city thread but the owners are spending much more on the local community
And infrastructure around the ground than they are on the playing team. They are also building
A world class centre for youth development. The long term future of this club is secure now. The Arabs are
Planning for income streams for long after the oil runs out. They may be a lot of things but stupid
They are not
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They have spent more than 300 million on the local community :surprised:
Man city will never be an income stream for them and the oil wont run out anytime soon there holdings company didnt even anounce the purchase of man city because it wasnt over 500million, in their eyes its a toy and always will be.
Im sorry but the sooner man city are out the picture the better for football, there ridiculous spending in the transfer market and on wages is a joke and the long term future is far from secure because of this. Your never gonna be profitable paying players 300k per week infact your wages alone are 20million above your entire turnover lol, not even Man utd pay those wages and they are by far the richest club in the country. When youve got half a trillion in the pot man city's profits are never gonna be taken seriously in the holdings companies eyes, your not a business your a toy.
Never trust an arab when they get bored of their toy, man city are finished.... Sorry just pray they dont get bored.
Also im not a man utd fan before you go there :signLOL:
Anyways
GK : W Szczesny
LB : B Assou-Ekotto
CD : Phil Jones
CD : V Kompany
RB : Richards
Rm : Silva
Cm : Song
Cm : Yaya
Lm : Nani
CF : RVP
CF : Aguero
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Manchester born and bread now living in leics
40 years of heartbreak now living the dream :jumpmove:
One FA cup Win and thats living the dream?, easily pleased :evilgrin: and yes im amanu fan and no im not (and never have been) a City hater!, but as Rob said they are a cheap Toy for the Arab trillions :grin:, just hope they are not another Blackburn, 1 season wonders
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I dont follow any premiersh*t team, i follow my local team, born in Exeter, first game was 1983 home to watford, i was 6 yrs old, now the prem is all money money money, we own our football club, we dont have bucket loads to throw around (thats why we are struggling this season) but then i have seen city play, Norwich, swansea, fulham, wigan, hull in the last 10 yrs or so, all of them do/have been in the prem so it can happen without spending like man city
football needs sorting out from top to bottom, i believe that all leagues SHOULD have a cap on wages and transfer fees in line with league one and two, so no matter what the wage bill must be less than income so no team can ever over spend and screw over local companys, now the scum that is Argyle got away with paying back .7p in the pound to the companys they owed millions to, chasing the dream of a season in the prem, should never be allowed to happen
if there are any man u fans on here ive got a great DVD from 2005 when they held on for a draw against the mighty Grecians :signLOL:
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i follow my local team
Man after my own heart :happy2:
Very much like you Phil, I did and still do follow and travel to support my local side, even though we went into administration then liquidation and were removed from the Blue Square Prem, something I know you guys weren't a million miles away from in the past too.
We've got an AFC side now but it's hard and surreal to accept when seven/eight/nine years ago we were playing Hull City, Sheffield Wednesday, QPR, Barnsley & Wigan in the league.
Watching any football including the Premiership is considered a treat really considering I know what it's like to have the prospect of not watching the side you love play ever again :happy2:
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i follow my local team
Man after my own heart :happy2:
Very much like you Phil, I did and still do follow and travel to support my local side, even though we went into administration then liquidation and were removed from the Blue Square Prem, something I know you guys weren't a million miles away from in the past too.
We've got an AFC side now but it's hard and surreal to accept when seven/eight/nine years ago we were playing Hull City, Sheffield Wednesday, QPR, Barnsley & Wigan in the league.
Watching any football including the Premiership is considered a treat really considering I know what it's like to have the prospect of not watching the side you love play ever again :happy2:
RDFC would that be rusden and diamonds? i went to your ground when we were BSP we lost 3-0, it was one of the best grounds i went to, good luck with AFC hope to see you in the league soon, imho there are to many arm chair fans, sky has a lot to answer for
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It would indeed chief, and thanks :happy2:
It'll be years before we're back in any limelight again, but it's a great ambition to have. I'd like to think we can reach the Conference again one day, before I'm old :grin:
Your place is one of the few I haven't been to, I have to confess :ashamed: I think you lot have done fantastically well to establish yourselves more or less in the F/L after similar success during a similar period to us :smiley: (Probably with less upfront capital than us as well...)
- Edit, you know that K**tering play at Nene Park now don't you? :sad1: :fighting: :sick:
It's a bit like you boys going out of business and Plymouth or Torquay playing at StJP, that's how it felt for us :fighting:
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It would indeed chief, and thanks :happy2:
It'll be years before we're back in any limelight again, but it's a great ambition to have. I'd like to think we can reach the Conference again one day, before I'm old :grin:
Your place is one of the few I haven't been to, I have to confess :ashamed: I think you lot have done fantastically well to establish yourselves more or less in the F/L after similar success during a similar period to us :smiley: (Probably with less upfront capital than us as well...)
- Edit, you know that K**tering play at Nene Park now don't you? :sad1: :fighting: :sick:
It's a bit like you boys going out of business and Plymouth or Torquay playing at StJP, that's how it felt for us :fighting:
your joking? I didnt know they where playing there. How did they pull that off???? we had, for about 15 years been a bottom half div3 club then we had wanker and wanker buy us and get Jacko (rip) and gellar involved, they then use to take the gate money home in bags, we couldnt pay the players or staff, they got arrested and the Trust took over day to day running in 2003 (funny we had to win against southend and hope swansea drew or lost to Hull so we stayed up and swansea went down) swansea won, we won so we went down on goal difference, swansea and hull have both made the prem in the same time it took us to get out the BSP
when R+D first came up (iirc 97 or 98) we always struggled home and away, tidy team even last time we play you, money is the route of all evil in football
Good luck for the future :happy2: if AFC wimbledon can do it so can you boys
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^ Wish I was. Basically they've had problems with the lease at their ground for years and years, NP obviously became available and they got green eyes.
Unfortunately, it may turn out to be one of the worst things they ever did as their attendances have been falling and on pitch, they're absolutely terrible. They just lost their 2 festive games 5-0 each to Luton. I think they're in the bottom three in the BSP and have had to let go to all their highest paid players.
As much as I despise them, I wouldn't want to see them go out of business and not for the sames reasons we did either.
The fact the FA haven't stepped in to stop this ludicrous situation is scandalous IMO. They should be supporting the grass root clubs at the lower end, but the support just simply isn't there as we found out. It's the same c**t that owns that ground now that is milking KTFC of their cash as it was that milked us too. He had a big share of ownership in our club however, which was much of the problem.
We used to put up a good fight against bigger sides like yourselves when you were flying high :happy2:
You're right, money is the devil in Prada really. It built us up and put us on the map, then took us out of business eventually when it ran out completely.
You too :happy2: What are this seasons aspirations? Anywhere mid table I'm guessing this time round?
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^ Wish I was. Basically they've had problems with the lease at their ground for years and years, NP obviously became available and they got green eyes.
Unfortunately, it may turn out to be one of the worst things they ever did as their attendances have been falling and on pitch, they're absolutely terrible. They just lost their 2 festive games 5-0 each to Luton. I think they're in the bottom three in the BSP and have had to let go to all their highest paid players.
As much as I despise them, I wouldn't want to see them go out of business and not for the sames reasons we did either.
The fact the FA haven't stepped in to stop this ludicrous situation is scandalous IMO. They should be supporting the grass root clubs at the lower end, but the support just simply isn't there as we found out. It's the same c**t that owns that ground now that is milking KTFC of their cash as it was that milked us too. He had a big share of ownership in our club however, which was much of the problem.
We used to put up a good fight against bigger sides like yourselves when you were flying high :happy2:
You're right, money is the devil in Prada really. It built us up and put us on the map, then took us out of business eventually when it ran out completely.
You too :happy2: What are this seasons aspirations? Anywhere mid table I'm guessing this time round?
totally agree mate the FA has to do something, they need to stop owners of grounds charging high rent and they must keep closer eye on income v wages and transfer fees, Down the A38 Argyle spent over and above what they could afford, giving out 10k 5 yr deals to players that arent league 2 standard let alone champ, then they decided the only way out the hole was a world cup host bid, (we all no what happened there) so Argyle were 18 mill in dept, in admin with Risdale in charge, we beat them and sent them to league 2 they are bottom of L2, its a reminder that if you gamble on the promise land and fail you could lose everything and more, R+D it was out of there hands, and seems kettering could go the same way :confused:
our season well we finished 8th in league 1 last year (our highest ever position) hoped we would push on from there, but we lost our 4 best players, Harley (now at brighton) cureton (20 goals last season) Taylor (now at Charlton) and Jones (at the posh) we just couldnt afford the wages they wanted, atm we are 20 :confused: but under Tisdale we always do better second half of the season, but TBH anywhere from 20 up will do me fine lol
hows your season shaping up mate?
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Some of you need to take a reality check about the so called 'city millions ruining football'
Long before we had any money :
United paid Veron a fortune
They also paid over 30 million for Ferdinand, Rooney and berbarov
Liverpool,spent over 200 million under Benitez
Blackburn broke the bank
Lost count at 250 million with Chelsea
And even arsenal spent nearly 20 million on Reyes years ago
All just off the top of my head
City did not start the spending competition but had to enter it to compete before uefa turned it into a closed shop for the established teams
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totally agree mate the FA has to do something, they need to stop owners of grounds charging high rent and they must keep closer eye on income v wages and transfer fees, Down the A38 Argyle spent over and above what they could afford, giving out 10k 5 yr deals to players that arent league 2 standard let alone champ, then they decided the only way out the hole was a world cup host bid, (we all no what happened there) so Argyle were 18 mill in dept, in admin with Risdale in charge, we beat them and sent them to league 2 they are bottom of L2, its a reminder that if you gamble on the promise land and fail you could lose everything and more, R+D it was out of there hands, and seems kettering could go the same way :confused:
our season well we finished 8th in league 1 last year (our highest ever position) hoped we would push on from there, but we lost our 4 best players, Harley (now at brighton) cureton (20 goals last season) Taylor (now at Charlton) and Jones (at the posh) we just couldnt afford the wages they wanted, atm we are 20 :confused: but under Tisdale we always do better second half of the season, but TBH anywhere from 20 up will do me fine lol
hows your season shaping up mate?
I simply don't understand it. Clubs like ourselves are the bread and better of English football when it comes down to it. We breed good players, teams like yourselves buy our players (which benefits both clubs longterm each time that happens) then they perform well for an Exeter/similar side, then jump to the Prem. If the FA aren't prepared to intervene when these kinds of clubs find themselves in such severe financial difficulty, whether it be their own fault or not, I'm not really sure where English football will be in 30 years?
Simeon Jackson is a good example of that (although he's Canadian) - he was superb at our place via the youth system. He got a big cash deal to Gillingham, performed there then went to Norwich where he's come off the bench to score a couple in the Prem. That's five leagues he's played in over six or so years. I think he broke a record the other day for scoring in every single level of professional English football which was fantastic and made us R&D fans a little proud :happy2:
Can you see many more stories like that happening though when all the focus and financial interest is in the Championship and Prem clubs only?
Actions like the BBC scrapping the Football League show are also very frustrating. I bet you're pretty livid at that too? :fighting:
I remember Paul Jones having some pretty fortunate games at our place. It seemed whatever we thew at him, it would hit his knee, shin or shoulder and stay out or he'd catch it off the post! Looks fairly settled at Posh now though. I don't think Cureton ever played against us, but I'm glad he didn't. He's always known where the goal is - bit of a football league veteran who no-one likes unless he's playing for them because of his goalscoring record :wink:
Just checked the league one table - I genuinely hope you lot stay up this season and keep all rivalries with the Argyle :happy2:
We were only allowed to field an U-18 side in a local U-18 league this season, but we're currently 4th in that and got some talented youngsters. It's nice paying £2 to get in with a guaranteed parking space, with no queue for the chips or a pint at H/T :grin: :wink:
Next season we'll have a senior side of some sort in probably one of the United Counties leagues, if the FA permits us entering etc... Hopefully we'll sign some of our older ex players that can play Saturdays in a physical league at that level and we'll begin another push back towards the more serious non-leagues.
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Some of you need to take a reality check about the so called 'city millions ruining football'
Long before we had any money :
United paid Veron a fortune
They also paid over 30 million for Ferdinand, Rooney and berbarov
Liverpool,spent over 200 million under Benitez
Blackburn broke the bank
Lost count at 250 million with Chelsea
And even arsenal spent nearly 20 million on Reyes years ago
All just off the top of my head
City did not start the spending competition but had to enter it to compete before uefa turned it into a closed shop for the established teams
My posts are not aimed at City (i remember when they were playing lg1 football and it took a last minute goal to take gillingham to extra time in the play off final) my posts are aimed at the FA, the size of money you get for just being in the prem and the fact most clubs will play with there future to just spend ONE SEASON in the prem, now i do find it funny the scum that is plymouth are en route to the BSP and a third relegation in a row, but had it not been for the lure of the prem it would never happen, to many teams spend more than they have coming in just trying to get there
p.s you forgot to mention Leeds utd and there 90 mill debt in the list of free spending clubs
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totally agree mate the FA has to do something, they need to stop owners of grounds charging high rent and they must keep closer eye on income v wages and transfer fees, Down the A38 Argyle spent over and above what they could afford, giving out 10k 5 yr deals to players that arent league 2 standard let alone champ, then they decided the only way out the hole was a world cup host bid, (we all no what happened there) so Argyle were 18 mill in dept, in admin with Risdale in charge, we beat them and sent them to league 2 they are bottom of L2, its a reminder that if you gamble on the promise land and fail you could lose everything and more, R+D it was out of there hands, and seems kettering could go the same way :confused:
our season well we finished 8th in league 1 last year (our highest ever position) hoped we would push on from there, but we lost our 4 best players, Harley (now at brighton) cureton (20 goals last season) Taylor (now at Charlton) and Jones (at the posh) we just couldnt afford the wages they wanted, atm we are 20 :confused: but under Tisdale we always do better second half of the season, but TBH anywhere from 20 up will do me fine lol
hows your season shaping up mate?
I simply don't understand it. Clubs like ourselves are the bread and better of English football when it comes down to it. We breed good players, teams like yourselves buy our players (which benefits both clubs longterm each time that happens) then they perform well for an Exeter/similar side, then jump to the Prem. If the FA aren't prepared to intervene when these kinds of clubs find themselves in such severe financial difficulty, whether it be their own fault or not, I'm not really sure where English football will be in 30 years?
Simeon Jackson is a good example of that (although he's Canadian) - he was superb at our place via the youth system. He got a big cash deal to Gillingham, performed there then went to Norwich where he's come off the bench to score a couple in the Prem. That's five leagues he's played in over six or so years. I think he broke a record the other day for scoring in every single level of professional English football which was fantastic and made us R&D fans a little proud :happy2:
Can you see many more stories like that happening though when all the focus and financial interest is in the Championship and Prem clubs only?
Actions like the BBC scrapping the Football League show are also very frustrating. I bet you're pretty livid at that too? :fighting:
I remember Paul Jones having some pretty fortunate games at our place. It seemed whatever we thew at him, it would hit his knee, shin or shoulder and stay out or he'd catch it off the post! Looks fairly settled at Posh now though. I don't think Cureton ever played against us, but I'm glad he didn't. He's always known where the goal is - bit of a football league veteran who no-one likes unless he's playing for them because of his goalscoring record :wink:
Just checked the league one table - I genuinely hope you lot stay up this season and keep all rivalries with the Argyle :happy2:
We were only allowed to field an U-18 side in a local U-18 league this season, but we're currently 4th in that and got some talented youngsters. It's nice paying £2 to get in with a guaranteed parking space, with no queue for the chips or a pint at H/T :grin: :wink:
Next season we'll have a senior side of some sort in probably one of the United Counties leagues, if the FA permits us entering etc... Hopefully we'll sign some of our older ex players that can play Saturdays in a physical league at that level and we'll begin another push back towards the more serious non-leagues.
Simeon Jackson now thats a player that always played very well against us, the last time i can to NP we had john chalanor playing for us iirc he played for you and was very well liked by most of you, and (2007) your ground was the first no smoking ground id been in (before the ban) the bar was a good size and having a carpark right outside was perfect, i agree with every word you say, the FA need to help us smaller clubs, Jamie mackie (QPR) played for us, then went to Plymouth :sick: now hes in the champ, cant remember his name but Dag and red had a striker who went to posh and scores for fun and plays for the scot nat team, without us clubs the english nat team wont improve cos i cant see many top 6 prem teams giving 18 yr olds reg first team action.
I do hope the FA let you enter a team and then you can start your journey back up to league 1 again :happy2:
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Its city that will be taking a reality check :signLOL:
Difference is Man utd, Liverpool and Arsenal can afford to, they are what you call spending within there means. Chelsea and especially man city are no where near within there means and since when have any of the teams mentioned paid players 250k and above per week.
Arsenal of all teams you bring up is the one team in the prem run correctly, built a massive stadium which is now nearly paid off which has been a burden on there prem performance over the last 5/6 years. Having to buy young and build them into a decent squad, id fancy Arsenal to kick on once the Emirates is paid off and that is how you become a big team and genuinly have a secure future. If they was still at highbury they would now be a mid table team no question about it. There North London neighbours havnt done bad either and dont recall them needing 800 million to get them there.
Time will tell with man city and chelsea if the sugar daddys dont get bored they will be fine, if they leave the games up im afraid. That is for sure!
If you think 90 million is bad look at chelsea's 750million and man city's 800 million debt and both rising, football has gone mad!
The FA deffinatly need to support the lower league clubs but its the FA we are talking about so doubtfull that will happen.
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Simeon Jackson now thats a player that always played very well against us, the last time i can to NP we had john chalanor playing for us iirc he played for you and was very well liked by most of you, and (2007) your ground was the first no smoking ground id been in (before the ban) the bar was a good size and having a carpark right outside was perfect, i agree with every word you say, the FA need to help us smaller clubs, Jamie mackie (QPR) played for us, then went to Plymouth :sick: now hes in the champ, cant remember his name but Dag and red had a striker who went to posh and scores for fun and plays for the scot nat team, without us clubs the english nat team wont improve cos i cant see many top 6 prem teams giving 18 yr olds reg first team action.
I do hope the FA let you enter a team and then you can start your journey back up to league 1 again :happy2:
Challinor was a good ol' boy, hard working and ironically had his best stint for us playing up front for around 7 games! Think he scored 6 in 7 or something like that.
Yeah, Nene Park is a peach. Far too good for K**tering...
Mackie is a decent player indeed. Not Craig Mackail-Smith you mean? He always looked dangerous when we played them in league and cup.
Cheers fella - me too. Even in one of the lower UCL regions, we're only four or five leagues away from the BS Premier - we can dream eh?! :innocent: If we see league football ever again in my lifetime, I'll be beyond a very happy chappy. I doubt we'll do it in the nine years that we did previously :notworthy:
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Its city that will be taking a reality check :signLOL:
Difference is Man utd, Liverpool and Arsenal can afford to, they are what you call spending within there means. Chelsea and especially man city are no where near within there means and since when have any of the teams mentioned paid players 250k and above per week.
Arsenal of all teams you bring up is the one team in the prem run correctly, built a massive stadium which is now nearly paid off which has been a burden on there prem performance over the last 5/6 years. Having to buy young and build them into a decent squad, id fancy Arsenal to kick on once the Emirates is paid off and that is how you become a big team and genuinly have a secure future. If they was still at highbury they would now be a mid table team no question about it. There North London neighbours havnt done bad either and dont recall them needing 800 million to get them there.
Time will tell with man city and chelsea if the sugar daddys dont get bored they will be fine, if they leave the games up im afraid. That is for sure!
If you think 90 million is bad look at chelsea's 750million and man city's 800 million debt and both rising, football has gone mad!
The FA deffinatly need to support the lower league clubs but its the FA we are talking about so doubtfull that will happen.
yep agree about the gunners, Leeds 90 mill was about 10 yrs ago at the time it was a massive amount of money, Man u, now in 2005 we (Exeter City FC) drew them away in the FA cup 3rd round, OT was full and we drew 0-0 we took them back to the park and played against there first team, we lost 2 nil but had a goal disallowed at 1 down, we were ONE mill ish in debt and that one fixture saved us, my point is if you have 87,000 paying fans each week you have massive spending power and if you have debt it is servicable, others like city and chelsea will be totally fubered if the money men walk, i think tezes has got man city over a barrel, hes on a stupid amount each week and they wont play him, he should be made to play for a local non league side, it would side the crowd to capacity helping the smaller club financially and giving something back to football
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Not my team of the year, but ive really enjoyed arsenals journey this year !
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so the £500 million that man Utd are in is a figment of everyones imagination
and the littlewoods pools money that financed Liverpool in the 70's and 80's
and the year end report for City does not state a debt of £800 million. It states that expenditure is greater than income by about £100m but future champs lge and merchandise revenue will grow and player purchases will fall.
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I take it those figures include the "Naming Rights" money which city were gifted to help balance the books and circumvent UEFA rules about expenditure and promptly named it the "Etihad Stadium" which is Arabic for the "United Stadium" :P
And to Clarify, Utd do have debts of approx £397 Million but they also have Funds held in bank accounts totalling over £50 Million, so NET debt is £347 Million in total, they also paid off £63 million of debta in last financial year and if they continue to do that they could be free and clear in 5/6 years.
They are also very profitable with player wages being only 46% of turnover as opposed to manchester City's wage bill being 106% of turnover (hence the quick naming rights deal to keep UEFA sweet!)
Although city only show "Debts" of £41 Million, they happened to lose £197 million last year, they can thank the Arabs for plugging that gap and keeping the accounts looking semi-healthy :laugh:
United gate receipts totalled just over 100m last year, City's were 18m.
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Ok, so only a few games left and I think would change my team now based on league performances only to -
Hart
Evra Kompany Vermaelen Walker or Baines cant decide
Bale Dempsey Silva Walcott
Van Persie Rooney
As a Liverpool fan think we have a chance of winning FA Cup but can see it being Chelsea's year as cant see them progressing in CL and we have already won the Legaue Cup. Hope Newcastle finish 4th would be good for football and funny to see Chelsea and Spurs miss out on the CL..
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Heres my team of the year
De gea
K. Walker J.Evans V.Kompany P.Evra
A. Valencia M.Carrick Y. Toure D.Silva
W.Rooney R.van Persie
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Szczesny
Sagna, Koscielny, Vermaelen, Gibbs
Oxlade-Chamberlain, Arteta, Rosicky
Walcott, Van Persie, Gervinho
END OF! :signLOL:
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Krul
Walker, Coloccini, Kompany, Baines
Dempsey, Cabaye, Yaya, Mata
Van Persie, Ba
PFA Team - Newcastle
PFA Manager - Pardew
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Krul
Walker, Coloccini, Kompany, Baines
Dempsey, Cabaye, Yaya, Mata
Van Persie, Ba
PFA Team - Newcastle
PFA Manager - Pardew
Bit of a Geordie bias there Andrew :signLOL:? I agree with your team and manager selection and Krul has been good but clearly Hart has no competition? Coloccini? Cabaye looks a good player but not done enough to get into a team of the season surely? Ba has been good but if was playing three up front would have to be Van Persie Rooney Aguero - no competition
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Hart and Krul are too close to call in my opinion. Their saves per game ratio is nearly identical, but Krul has conceded more. You could say that Hart plays behind a vastly superior defence though. Krul is my preference because he has been absolutely pivotal to Newcastles success this season. I also worry that Hart can be a little unpredictable. He showboats a fair bit!
Either way, you could choose from at least 5 'keepers and you'd be doing well with any of them.
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Hart and Krul are too close to call in my opinion. Their saves per game ratio is nearly identical, but Krul has conceded more. You could say that Hart plays behind a vastly superior defence though. Krul is my preference because he has been absolutely pivotal to Newcastles success this season. I also worry that Hart can be a little unpredictable. He showboats a fair bit!
Either way, you could choose from at least 5 'keepers and you'd be doing well with any of them.
It might be wrong but they were saying on skysports, when discussing this very subject, that de gea has the best shots to save ratio in the premiership.
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I didn't say either had the best ratio, and I think that is right about De Gea. He wouldn't be in my top 5 though. He's just not reliable enough yet. Give him another season and I think he'll be pretty impressive.
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Vorm
Assou Ekotto, Jonny Evans, Kompany, Baines
Dempsey, Bale, Walcott, Mata
Van Persie, Aguero
PFA Team - Man United
PFA Manager - Brendan Rogers? (Swansea)
That would be my pick
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My only problem with Swansea and Brendan Rogers is they very rarely change the way they play, which is great if they're winning, but no so if they're not! Case in example was our game against them. They played the same football for 90 minutes. It didn't work, but they didn't adapt, and as such we beat them. I like the strength of conviction, they play football as they want to, but sometimes you've got to grind out results.
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I can't believe Oxlade-Chamberlain has been listed for the Young Player of the Year. As much as I like him, he's made 5 starts and came off the bench 8 times!
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I didn't say either had the best ratio, and I think that is right about De Gea. He wouldn't be in my top 5 though. He's just not reliable enough yet. Give him another season and I think he'll be pretty impressive.
Your spot on regarding de gea. His shot stopping and distribution is second to none. But like everyone has said, he needs to adapt to crosses.
We've got a lot of good keepers in the prem, Friedel has had a great season. It's a pity given is playing for a poor villa side because on his day he's up with the best of them. Same goes for bogdan at Bolton.
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I didn't say either had the best ratio, and I think that is right about De Gea. He wouldn't be in my top 5 though. He's just not reliable enough yet. Give him another season and I think he'll be pretty impressive.
Your spot on regarding de gea. His shot stopping and distribution is second to none. But like everyone has said, he needs to adapt to crosses.
We've got a lot of good keepers in the prem, Friedel has had a great season. It's a pity given is playing for a poor villa side because on his day he's up with the best of them. Same goes for bogdan at Bolton.
Al-Habsi has been excellent too.
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Regarding Pfa player of the year I think it's got to be robin van Persie. Runner up David silva.
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Cabaye looks a good player but not done enough to get into a team of the season surely?
You're right, I overlooked Tiote, who I'd put in central midfield.
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Cabaye looks a good player but not done enough to get into a team of the season surely?
You're right, I overlooked Tiote, who I'd put in central midfield.
I don't know whether theyre all Pardew's signings or not but he's assembled a damn good side. The likes of cabaye, tiote, Ben arfa, ba, cisse. Very good players :happy2:
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Regarding Pfa player of the year I think it's got to be robin van Persie.
I just couldn't do it. He is such a sore loser, and very smug when they win. very childlike. His spat with Caldwell tonight was a prime example. Man up, be gracious in defeat. But no, the press will find some way of construing it as passion.
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Regarding Pfa player of the year I think it's got to be robin van Persie.
I just couldn't do it. He is such a sore loser, and very smug when they win. very childlike. His spat with Caldwell tonight was a prime example. Man up, be gracious in defeat. But no, the press will find some way of construing it as passion.
I was thinking the exact same thing when he refused to shake caldwells hand, pathetic really.
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Yeah in terms of value Krul would win, has he now been linked to Chelski? Hats off to Newcastle, really hope they can catch Arsenal but doubt it.
Great win for Wigan, down are Wolves, Blackburn and QPR for me. Unless Bolton make a monumental balls up of their games in hand. De Gea may be great but he aint yet.
Would city have wont the league with Tevez all season? probably - numpty.
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Regarding Pfa player of the year I think it's got to be robin van Persie.
I just couldn't do it. He is such a sore loser, and very smug when they win. very childlike. His spat with Caldwell tonight was a prime example. Man up, be gracious in defeat. But no, the press will find some way of construing it as passion.
Maybe he learns it from his manager! Just seen wengers interview! At least fergie held his hands up and said Wigan deserved it.
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I didn't see it. What did he have to complain about?
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I didn't see it. What did he have to complain about?
Just typical wenger really, not wanting to give Wigan any credit whatsoever. :stupid:
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I didn't see it. What did he have to complain about?
Just typical wenger really, not wanting to give Wigan any credit whatsoever. :stupid:
There'll come a time in that combined with no silverware, even Arsenal's most loyal supporters will begin to get fed up of the hard done by act he ploys after every draw and defeat.
I'm firmly a neutral as far as the Prem goes, however you feel that Wengers had his time and a few other managers could progress that squad with a bigger opportunity for trophies. I can't see what he'll do in the next 5 years there that he hasn't already?
Time to move on this summer or next? Probably...
You feel Spurs will only become a stronger top 5 side too, with or without Harry.
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I didn't see it. What did he have to complain about?
Just typical wenger really, not wanting to give Wigan any credit whatsoever. :stupid:
Wenger wears special glasses alright, sees every tackle ON his players but somehow manages to miss every tackle BY his players :stupid:, same things when it comes to penalties :indifferent:
Is he still saying "They play a tough game, blah blah, defend too much blah blah, rough us up, blah blah :fighting:, Wenger grow a pair!
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I don't think he understands that the game can be played at whatever pace either team dictates. Wigan built up an early advantage and quite rightly tried to slow the game down by maintaining possession. They didn't take extraordinarily long on goal kicks etc (bar maybe 2 or 3 very late on), but he moaned and moaned. It's pure frustration vented in totally the wrong way. If I was the fourth official yesterday I'd have snapped of that pointing finger of his!
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Cabaye looks a good player but not done enough to get into a team of the season surely?
:notworthy:
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Cabaye looks a good player but not done enough to get into a team of the season surely?
:notworthy:
He is trying, 2 goals and an assist today!
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Which means he was involved in every goal we scored.
He's got to be the best creative midfielder at the moment.
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I would say best midfielder from the games yesterday, but best midfielder in prem currently?, think thats a bridge too far :wink:
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I must be missing something here..
Newcastle are currently the 4th best team in the league but noone is putting any of our players in the team of the season :stupid:
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I must be missing something here..
Newcastle are currently the 4th best team in the league but noone is putting any of our players in the team of the season :stupid:
Most people are still reluctant to accept that Newcastle are now playing some of the best football in the EPL.
Regarding midfielders, who else thinks Scott Parker is one of the most overrated players this season?
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I do like Parker but... his forward passes are square at best :laugh:
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Scott parker is a tackler not so much a passer of the ball, I think for tackling and stopping attacks he is very good
Newcastle are a good team and if they qualify for Champions league it will be great for the game, but then again they done so well with a manager none of the fans wanted :happy2:
Krul is a good keeper, better than vorm tho?
Cisse and Cabaye are both in my fantasy football team but there are better forwards and midfielders in the league (albeit more expensive)
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have to agree with tamiyo man, cabaye and cisse may be in a team of the last 10 games but cisse has only been here since january, ba has done well but not enough to get into a team of the season.
I would put Krul on the bench after Hart.
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Can you imagine how many Cisse might have scored if he had been here since the start of the season. His goals per minute on the pitch is massively higher than anyone in the Premier League.
The Everton game was mental today. The Man United defence was appalling. The Derby game is going to be unmissable as I'm sure City will beat Wolves today.
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Can you imagine how many Cisse might have scored if he had been here since the start of the season. His goals per minute on the pitch is massively higher than anyone in the Premier League.
The Everton game was mental today. The Man United defence was appalling. The Derby game is going to be unmissable as I'm sure City will beat Wolves today.
Yes but thats the issue he has not been, BA was amazing pre african cup of nations, afterwards pretty poor, who knows what cisse will be like over a whole season, if he is top scorer next season then I would put him in players of the season, until then he is not proven.
Man United defence was awfull (I am a lifelong man u fan myself) and it was hard to watch, I dont think the defence can be blamed for 2 of the goals as 1 was a good goal no keeper could stop and the other a ball bouncing right to the players feet (unlucky), the other 2 tho should were down to lapses in concentration.
We should have kept at them, if we had gone for it we could have had 6 or 7, but get a 2 goal lead and relax united struck again.
Will be a good run in now, im saying we go to city and get a draw and watch City try to break newcastle the week after, that game wil decide the league.
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Well maybe we'll beat them 3 - 0 like we did you :wink:
By the way, I don't think anyone put Cisse in their PFA list...
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Well we got relegated today! So i wouldnt put any of our players in the team of the year.
Still fancy us to bounce back if we can keep most of the players at the club... Come on you Wolves!!!
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I've got to say, I felt sorry for Terry Connor in that interview. The guy wasn't the right choice, he never stood a chance.
I really thought Wolves played better under McCarthy.
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Well maybe we'll beat them 3 - 0 like we did you :wink:
By the way, I don't think anyone put Cisse in their PFA list...
Yes with a bit of luck they will forget all about Kevins rants and play well against City like they did with united (who clearly had one of their 5 or 6 off days that they had this season) :happy2:
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Krul
Walker, Coloccini, Kompany, Baines
Dempsey, Cabaye, Yaya, Mata
Van Persie, Ba
Well I got the back four right :signLOL:
Pleased that Colo was included, thoroughly deserved in my opinion.