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General => Shows, Events and Meets => Old Event Details => Topic started by: Greeners on April 19, 2009, 08:23:05 pm
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Been in the planning stages for many months but weve now 'nearly' booked it all up! :jumpmove:
Provisional: Thursday 18th June PM, Travelodge close to Chunnel for eats and beer.
Friday 19th June: Early AM crossing to Calais then a gentle drive into Brussels for a night out and stay over @ http://www.husapresidentpark.com/es/index.php :drinking: :jumpmove:
Saturday 20th June: Leisurely drive into Germany :driver: to the Nordschleife for viewing then maybe a blast in the evening session. (plus find somewhere to Watch British GP Qualy)
Sunday 21st June: Full day at the Nordschleife! (find somewhere to watch the GP)
Monday 22nd June: Travel back to Calais for afternoon crossing back to Blightly.
There are 4 cars travelling there so far consisting of my good self, Markymark (aka Flora) and SteveP and a few guys from my work. Its open to all so if you fancy tagging along just let me know! :happy2:
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Looks as though the forum feline (Top Cat) will be joining as co-pilot with the boss man (StevePG)!
If there any other interested parties just let me know and I can pass on the details! :happy2: :driver:
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may be interested, will confirm at a later date :smiley:
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Come on Joe, It would be good to have you there. :jumpmove:
It gives me more cars to play with while you lot are drunk :driver:
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Yeah cmon Joe! :happy2:
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how much do you think it would cost all in?
(just working out dates and stuff) :smiley:
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just guys or any gf/wifes going?
mmmm tempted
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just guys or any gf/wifes going?
mmmm tempted
Girlfriends thats a different ring :grin:
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just guys or any gf/wifes going?
mmmm tempted
Girlfriends thats a different ring :grin:
^^^^ :signLOL: You're very much on form today, TC :happy2:
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....A ring virgin? :evilgrin:
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just guys or any gf/wifes going?
mmmm tempted
Flora's my co-pilot if that counts? :grin: :love:
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well im 60% sure im coming :happy2:
need a wing man :party:
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Hmmmm!! I quite fancy this. If you fancy a wing man Joe I think I may be interested depending on cost. PM me to let me know what you think. :wink:
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Yay! Come on boys you know you want to! (p.s. not goin on circuit the same time as Joe :surprised:) :grin:
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Yay! Come on boys you know you want to! (p.s. not goin on circuit the same time as Joe :surprised:) :grin:
oi, cheeky bugger, i can drive :P
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Yay! Come on boys you know you want to! (p.s. not goin on circuit the same time as Joe :surprised:) :grin:
oi, cheeky bugger, i can drive :P
So can David Blunkett apparently! Although he does occassionally catch a rim here and there but never a splitter! :signLOL:
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Yay! Come on boys you know you want to! (p.s. not goin on circuit the same time as Joe :surprised:) :grin:
oi, cheeky bugger, i can drive :P
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Provisional: Thursday 18th June PM, Travelodge close to Chunnel for eats and beer.
....Be aware (if you're not already aware) that the Travelodges near the Chunnel get full very easily and you need to book way ahead of time.
I once ended up in a rather grand old house with sweeping views across to France but wouldn't recommend it as, apart from limited accommodation (no food), I think the couple running it may have been swingers. They certainly had an alcohol problem! I was the only house guest and made sure my bedroom was locked. It was very bizarre indeed.
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you need to let me know where that house is robin! ;)
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mustve have been really bad for 'open minded' Robin to lock his door........ :confused:
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Well?
Any of the interesed parties got clearance from SWMBO yet? :laugh:
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im going to know after the weekend once ive worked out my monies, i go to malia soo with 14 lads <a href="http://www.mysmiley.net/free-aim-smileys.php" title="aim smileys">(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mysmiley.net%2Fimgs%2Fsmile%2Fhappy%2Fhappy0167.gif&hash=85352dfd53fa468a5e065dd124145f2accccb409)[/url]
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im going to know after the weekend once ive worked out my monies, i go to malia soo with 14 lads <a href="http://www.mysmiley.net/free-aim-smileys.php" title="aim smileys">(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mysmiley.net%2Fimgs%2Fsmile%2Fhappy%2Fhappy0167.gif&hash=85352dfd53fa468a5e065dd124145f2accccb409)[/url]
Get it sorted mate, I have cleared it with the misses and I got enough mula for it......I think :chicken:
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im going to know after the weekend once ive worked out my monies, i go to malia soo with 14 lads <a href="http://www.mysmiley.net/free-aim-smileys.php" title="aim smileys">(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mysmiley.net%2Fimgs%2Fsmile%2Fhappy%2Fhappy0167.gif&hash=85352dfd53fa468a5e065dd124145f2accccb409)[/url]
Get it sorted mate, I have cleared it with the misses and I got enough mula for it......I think :chicken:
Lads we worked it out to around £200ish quid all in including crossing, Hotels and fuel. Then you just need your spends! :wink: :drinking:
If Joe doesn't go Tom you can jump in my car! :happy2:
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i wana go but dont wanna take my car around the track! thats the only thing thats putting me off! i really dont wanna stuff up my car.
I get the impression that there would be bikes and cars passing me all the time and i wouldnt have much of my own space.
i really couldnt afford to smash up my car without insurance,
does nobody else worry about this?
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sorry...that really does read to piss on everyones chips who is going. I really dont want to do that, and i would love to come.
but i just need some peoples opinions to "twist my arm" i guess!
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im going to know after the weekend once ive worked out my monies, i go to malia soo with 14 lads <a href="http://www.mysmiley.net/free-aim-smileys.php" title="aim smileys">(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mysmiley.net%2Fimgs%2Fsmile%2Fhappy%2Fhappy0167.gif&hash=85352dfd53fa468a5e065dd124145f2accccb409)[/url]
Get it sorted mate, I have cleared it with the misses and I got enough mula for it......I think :chicken:
Lads we worked it out to around £200ish quid all in including crossing, Hotels and fuel. Then you just need your spends! :wink: :drinking:
If Joe doesn't go Tom you can jump in my car! :happy2:
Thanks for the offer matey, I will bear it in mind :happy2:
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sorry...that really does read to piss on everyones chips who is going. I really dont want to do that, and i would love to come.
but i just need some peoples opinions to "twist my arm" i guess!
I will twist it for you, I am going to be nagging you over and over till you finally succumb!! Once in a lifetime experience my man :happy2: :happy2: :happy2:
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i wana go but dont wanna take my car around the track! thats the only thing thats putting me off! i really dont wanna stuff up my car.
I get the impression that there would be bikes and cars passing me all the time and i wouldnt have much of my own space.
i really couldnt afford to smash up my car without insurance,
does nobody else worry about this?
Jay if your that worried give it to me to drive, and i will stuff it into the arnco for you. I can easily afford to crash it for you. :signLOL:
To be honest that is why i am only going as a camera man. I want to see what its all about first. :party:
Then next year i can stuff my own into the arnco. :jumpmove: :laugh:
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i wana go but dont wanna take my car around the track! thats the only thing thats putting me off! i really dont wanna stuff up my car.
I get the impression that there would be bikes and cars passing me all the time and i wouldnt have much of my own space.
i really couldnt afford to smash up my car without insurance,
does nobody else worry about this?
I hear you Jay as you know what Im like about my car but Im not going there to 'set a time' or race anyone. Im just going to enjoy it an make the most of it while Im there.
You only live once Jay! :wink:
The reason we are going when we are as it's supposed to be quieter as it British GP weekend! :wink:
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200!!! just wait till you get there!! i spent nearly that on laps in a day!!!
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200!!! just wait till you get there!! i spent nearly that on laps in a day!!!
Thats cuz your a nutter! :P :wink: And £200 was just to get you there BTW :wink:
Jay, you haven't 'GOT' to go on the circuit!
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ha ha, yeah sounds right, about 3/4 tank from calais to ring via brussels, well unless you cain it on autobahn............. which you will.lol
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you bunch of girls stop bitching and just drive around it as it's awesome
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you bunch of girls stop bitching and just drive around it as it's awesome
Wot he said! (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FGreenouse%2FMisc%2FHippie.gif&hash=2ea8b84ee0ea63d50cfb5112d0421d8bd295cdf9)
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwtyZosuPNE
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2 mins faster than me!!!!!!! gutted
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Joe, Tom, Choppers?
Anyone got permission as yet to join the fun? :jumpmove: :jumpmove: :driver:
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Joe, Tom, Choppers?
Anyone got permission as yet to join the fun? :jumpmove: :jumpmove: :driver:
I'm working nights the tale end (Thursday,Friday, Sat and Sunday) of that week me ole mucker otherwise I would have come along. Too much holiday to book off... :chicken:
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Joe, Tom, Choppers?
Anyone got permission as yet to join the fun? :jumpmove: :jumpmove: :driver:
I'm working nights the tale end (Thursday,Friday, Sat and Sunday) of that week me ole mucker otherwise I would have come along. Too much holiday to book off... :chicken:
Fair do's fella! I'll have one for you :drinking:
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Joe, Tom, Choppers?
Anyone got permission as yet to join the fun? :jumpmove: :jumpmove: :driver:
I'm working nights the tale end (Thursday,Friday, Sat and Sunday) of that week me ole mucker otherwise I would have come along. Too much holiday to book off... :chicken:
Fair do's fella! I'll have one for you :drinking:
Cheers....If it had been the week after no problems at all..bummer!!! :sad:
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Joe, Jay and Tom are you guys coming on this trip. :happy2: :jumpmove:
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I spoke to Nathan last night and I might be coming and with room for one passenger (Tomm?). I doubt very much if I'll drive round The 'Ring but I wiil go for a BMW taxi ride if possible.
I should know yeah or neah by Tuesday at the latest.
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Joe, Jay and Tom are you guys coming on this trip. :happy2: :jumpmove:
Very doubtful, that bag of sh*t's turbo AGAIN! has rinsed any Nurburgring finds that I had!! :sad: :sad: :angry015:
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no from me aswell at the moment..... :sad1:
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^^^^^^^ :sad1:
Robin, looks like the hunt is on for a co-driver! :happy2:
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mmm do i go again :driver: :rolleye:
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^^^^^^^ :sad1:
Robin, looks like the hunt is on for a co-driver! :happy2:
....No co-driver - Just a passenger. Well, even that is uncertain because I might drive on to Geneva and come back to UK later.
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What's all this "I'm not driving around it" BS?
It's a road, the traffic only goes in 1 direction and so long as you keep your eyes on your mirrors and understand the etiquette you can't go wrong. What makes anyone think that just because it is the the 'Ring you're going to automatically stuff it??
Go. Softly soak it up and drive it without worrying about times or other drivers. Just enjoy one of the greatest roads in the world, before H&S finally shut it down.
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^^^^^^ WOW!
Am I wrong for PMSL at the guy falling out of his Beetle? :signLOL:
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I did :signLOL:
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What's all this "I'm not driving around it" BS?
Yeah c'mon lads! :wink:
My missus did a lap last monday afternoon in very heavy and fast traffic, bit hairy as first but by Adenauer Forst she was dodging GT3's like a champ, don't get beaten by a girl... lol :laugh:
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I'll be at the ring on Friday 19th as it happens... perhaps I'll see some of you there.
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I'll be at the ring on Friday 19th as it happens... perhaps I'll see some of you there.
....Instead of making it a "perhaps", why don't you PM Nathan (Greenouse) with your mobile #. It's always good to be able to put faces to forum names (providing you can remember them all!)
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Good point RR.
We'll be there with 4 dutch registered cars - a mid metallic silver Mini Cooper S with the Works bodykit, A united grey 5 door Golf V GTI on Monza 2s, my black one and (ahem) a metallic burgundy Volvo S40 T5 ...
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I'll be at the ring on Friday 19th as it happens... perhaps I'll see some of you there.
We won't be there until the Saturday afternoon! Will you still be there Mark? :chicken:
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:sad1:
Unfortunately our plans changed late last night... we won't be there until the 3rd of July now :sad:
$%@#$@^%$ work plans....
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Looking quite likely for me to join the trip but I need to some new AP discs in time! Am working on it now.
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Nice one RR! :happy2:
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Oh, just a note.
If you're coming back via the E40 to the ferry ports/chunnel, there's roadworks on the French/Belgian border Southbound and they're horrific. Save a bit of extra time to get through them, like 2 hours maybe.
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Oh, just a note.
If you're coming back via the E40 to the ferry ports/chunnel, there's roadworks on the French/Belgian border Southbound and they're horrific. Save a bit of extra time to get through them, like 2 hours maybe.
Cheers Mike! :happy2:
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Oh, just a note.
If you're coming back via the E40 to the ferry ports/chunnel, there's roadworks on the French/Belgian border Southbound and they're horrific. Save a bit of extra time to get through them, like 2 hours maybe.
....Very helpful tip but isn't that a contradiction? We would be travelling northbound on the way back to the Chunnel.
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Eh, how is where the E40 crosses the Belgian border South of the Chunnel??
The usual route home from the 'Ring is up to Aachen, across Belgium and then down the E40 into France - so if you're coming home, you'll be heading down the Southbound (well, Southwestbound to be picky) carriageway, where the roadworks are.
Make sense??
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Yes, I've driven it a few times myself but I was interpreting your "southbound" as being much more 'north' is chunnelbound and 'south' is heading away from chunnel regardless of the compass directional twists and turns in the route. Heading to a north or south as a final destination.
It's clear now anyway - :happy2: :drinking:
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What's the scene re insurance? Is The 'Ring considered a race track or a public road by UK insurers?
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The ring is a toll road
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What's the scene re insurance? Is The 'Ring considered a race track or a public road by UK insurers?
Ive been looking into this..
Most policies say they dont cover de-restricted toll road, which the ring is.
But the Ring is a public road so i guess you have to be covered 3rd party by the insurance. they will try and wriggle out of it but you will be covered at least 3rd party.
If you call your insurance company they will say "no" point blank, your average call centre staff are just not going to understand
Ive heard somewhere that http://www.keithmichaels.co.uk do insurance for £60/day
some more of my findings
What I can say is that the normal public road driving laws apply on the 'Ring during the public sessions.
- The police will sometimes monitor speeds through the restricted sections and will give out tickets.
- Overtaking on the right is strictly forbidden and professional racers who have done thousands of laps on the NS have been taken to court if they have have been observed overtaking (even safely) on the right during a public session.
- You may not drive a car unless its tyres are road-legal and it has a valid registration plate (however, they disallow cars with dealer plates).
- Subject to the noise restriction (which may technically apply on all public roads - not sure), you may drive anything that's road-legal. To wit, there were pictures floating recently around of somebody (a Brit, as it happened) who has a, well, it's a sofa on wheels that's been SVA'd, and that was allowed on the NS for public lapping.
- If you are in a reportable accident (one involving more than one vehicle, or a personal injury) the police must attend, file a report, etc. At that time you are required to produce your ownership and insurance documents, as you would be on any public road, and if you fail to produce them you will have a problem, as you would on any public road.
All the above make the NS sound rather public, and certainly closer to being a public road than to being a race circuit like Brands or Hockenheim, where essentially none of the above applies.
If the insurer has said on the phone that the cover applies to "any roads", surely the NS is a road.
With regard to other claims that the insurer could avoid, if you damage Armco at the NS you are expected to pay for the repair. I don't think that such applies on normal public roads in either Germany or the UK.
So far as insurance is concerned, there is no substitute for telling the truth.
You see, if you cripple a 23 year old breadwinner with 2 small children, you are going to be facing a multi-million pound damages suit, and the insurance company will unleash their 600/hr QCs to wriggle out of paying. They will go over your car, proposal form and accident report with a microscope and your barrack room legalities will be as much protection as wet tissue paper. How do you feel about spending the rest of your life paying off the damages and legal fees?
(And in case you think this is theoretical, some 30 years ago, a friend of mine found herself on the end of a 250K damages suit after an accident. She lost. The insurance company paid.)
So, call your insurer and tell them you're going to the 'Ring. If you have to buy competition insurance, so be it.
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some very interesting points being thrown around on this thread guys.,
Hope this helps
http://www.pistonheads.com/GASSING/topic.asp?h=0&f=18&t=196929&mid=0&i=0&nmt=Nurburgring%20Insurance%20%96%20Help!&mid=0
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What's the scene re insurance? Is The 'Ring considered a race track or a public road by UK insurers?
Super grey area, EU law says you've got 3rd party cover. On public days you are running on a German road covered by German laws, so your car has to be legal/insured... depends how much time and money you have to explore it in the event of a prang?
Have a read of this thread, it links to more.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=18&t=196929&mid=0&i=0&nmt=Nurburgring%20Insurance%20–%20Help!&mid=0
Lots of places do track insurance, most take their chances. I've used these before and they're decent people. www.moris.co.uk
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Never take insurance I just don't drive like I stole it LOL
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The ombusman has ruled in favour of claiment for 3rd part damages in a few cases, fact. However, a condition is a gagging order to stop the floodgates opening... all basically down to the EU law. What people will tell you in person and what you find posted on the 'net are very different things.
You stuff your car though, you've got a lot more work trying getting anything back.
Again - balls, time and money.
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Never take insurance I just don't drive like I stole it LOL
Im with Mat :happy2:
Im not going there to set any lap records, just enjoy the experiance and soak up the atmosphere!
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I'm very put off by the insurance aspects - The risks of an incident are far greater than everyday road driving and the hassle and costly inconvenience would be substantial even if it's not your fault. I know someone who had more than just armco to pay for at The 'Ring.
Consequently I won't be taking my car around The 'Ring.
Besides, I have a damaged SAMCO intercooler > turbo hose and can't get a replacement for 4 weeks.
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It's good you know the full picture and can make a level headed decision, even if that means you say no. Plenty do. Rather than plough in trying to set records with no real understanding of the track or concequences... they're the people you see coming back on a low loader.
You've got to accept that although tricky to deal with the 3rd party aspect, it is valid through the EU parity laws on a public day.. but in the event of you stacking your own car, you're most likely paying for it yourself.
Take your helmet and get a few passenger laps, you never know, it might go quiet enough in the evening for you to be tempted for a potter around too. There's times I've not seen another car on there, so you'll feel much more at ease. Try avoiding going near the track after closures for half an hour or so too, others impatience causes problems and you can find yourself swamped and offline.
Take care out there, although it isn't anywhere as dangerous as you'd think if you keep your eyes peeled, speed down and learn where the dangerous/blind points are beforehand. its a very enjoyable bit of road, that's how I treat it, not as a race track.
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Excellent advice, Mike :drinking: :happy2:
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So are you coming then Mr Red? :chicken:
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do treat it as road, as its nothing like a track, only problem is you do get giddy, well i do!!! :signLOL: just stay out of way of the faster lads and hope that people do the same for you as thats whats causes accidents, trying to get past some plonk who wont admit your faster!!! have a good en.
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So are you coming then Mr Red? :chicken:
....I've just spoken to Mark (VWR) and he can swop my damaged SAMCO hose back for my stock one until the SAMCO replacement arrives (I'm up at VWR again very soon for my new discs). So car will be safe.
I've also just arranged when my Interlagos can be fitted on my Recaros (the day before Inters). So car will be as it must be for Inters display.
Looking likely but I have still have a private matter to arrange before I can say yes. I'm working on it still.
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Looks like I can make it :jumpmove:
But the only insurer I've found so far for The 'Ring would want £350-£450 plus 10% excess! That's a non-starter for my car on track/toll-road or 'it-matters-not-wot-u-call-it'.
So, who has the details of : -
- Travelodge, which?
- Chunnel times you've booked.
- Brussels - Husa President Park - hotel booked?
- Nurburgring 'hotel'.
Thanks :drinking:
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The only one I can help you with is the Travelodge, its the Ashford Travelodge, Eureka Leisure Park, Rutherford Road, Tel 0871 984 6004. Booked for the Thursday night 18th June
I think Nath said we are booked on the 7.10 chunnel crossing but the other guys are on the 7.30.
Sorry cant help with the other Q's! :happy2:
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Looks like I can make it :jumpmove:
But the only insurer I've found so far for The 'Ring would want £350-£450 plus 10% excess! That's a non-starter for my car on track/toll-road or 'it-matters-not-wot-u-call-it'.
So, who has the details of : -
- Travelodge, which?
- Chunnel times you've booked.
- Brussels - Husa President Park - hotel booked?
- Nurburgring 'hotel'.
Thanks :drinking:
Good news Red! :jumpmove:
Got your message earlier but got loads on at work. Will PM you the details you need shortly! :happy2:
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Thanks guys :happy2:
- So, single room for me at Travelodge?
- Are we booked for a Chunnel return time yet? (I shan't be travelling further south at this time)
Will wait for your PM, Nath :drinking:
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You guys probably already know this but I've just been told at The 'Ring:
"Carry your insurance docs and driving license with you in the car (don't leave them in your hotel room), because the police are now doing spot checks in the car park. By law you have to have at least third party cover."
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First stage of our invasion of Poland Germany now booked - Traveldodge.
Chunnel tomorrow after I've checked my Euro breakdown cover with Greenlight. Then Brussels.
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^^^ I had the call the Brussels hotel as it was showing as fully booked on-line a couple of weeks ago Robin :happy2:
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It's still showing as fully booked online and I'm having great trouble getting through by phone as it's constantly engaged! Grrrrrrrrr!!
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I confirmed it all via email then in the end Robin and they typically replied within a few hours :smiley:
The rate on the phone was also slightly higher @ 95 euro a night for a telephone booking :chicken:
Otherwise you can always share a bed with TC :grouphug: :laugh: :laugh:
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I confirmed it all via email then in the end Robin and they typically replied within a few hours :smiley:
The rate on the phone was also slightly higher @ 95 euro a night for a telephone booking :chicken:
Otherwise you can always share a bed with TC :grouphug: :laugh: :laugh:
He can have my bed, i am working nights while you guys are asleep i will have my choice of cars to play with :evilgrin: :driver:
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Sorry to disappoint you, TC, but Alice has just offered me a bed. :jumpmove:
(€60 too)
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Sorry to disappoint you, TC, but Alice has just offered me a bed. :jumpmove:
(€60 too)
Alice eh? Thats not a bad price for the works! :laugh:
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Sorry to disappoint you, TC, but Alice has just offered me a bed. :jumpmove:
(€60 too)
Alice eh? Thats not a bad price for the works! :laugh:
RR gets senior citizen rates though! :signLOL:
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^^^^ :signLOL:
Forgot that! :laugh:
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She's Dutch so they always give good value :evilgrin:
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Dutch girls! Let's parteeeeeeee!! :jumpmove: :jumpmove: :jumpmove: :jumpmove:
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Have a good time fella's. Should be a good 'un!
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Cheers Dave :happy2: