MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: shane mk5 on February 05, 2012, 08:03:20 pm
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Hi ive got a mk5 edition 30 what remap and exhaust would you recomend i would like maybe a 3" turboback with no middle box or cat
Cheers
Shane
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Hi ive got a mk5 edition 30 what remap and exhaust would you recomend i would like maybe a 3" turboback with no middle box or cat
Cheers
Shane
Hi mate,I'm in the same situation as you....thinking of either p-torque or r-tech I be going to for my stg1 remap
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I have revo stage 2+ and a bcs tbe. on my ed30 dsg. overall pleased with it, had to my exhaust. touched up as it wasn't made that well first time but seems ok now
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Ive read through some reviews and i was set on revo or shark performance i dont know the difference the figures seem to be very similar but people are on about mid performance and top end performance which makes me more confused
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Whats the revo 2+ do you have to have a tbe and intake for 2+ map
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Whats the revo 2+ do you have to have a tbe and intake for 2+ map
Yes. You need a CAI, TBE, HPFP and intercooler
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I have revo stage 2+ and a bcs tbe. on my ed30 dsg. overall pleased with it, had to my exhaust. touched up as it wasn't made that well first time but seems ok now
Could you please elaborate?
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Whats the revo 2+ do you have to have a tbe and intake for 2+ map
Yes. You need a CAI, TBE, HPFP and intercooler
WRONG!!!!!! Coming out with things llike this could cost people thousands more than they would like to spendor than they need to spend
The minimum REQUIREMENT is downpipe and HPFP. Other mods just make it better.
HPFP - Yes. Or you will get fuel cut. Stage 2+ is designed around this pump.
Downpipe with sports cat or decat. - Yes
Intercooler -No. Ideally you will have one fitted to reduce heatsoak, but its not a requirement. Worthwhile having, but lots don't bother.
CAI - No, but likethe intercooler its a good idea if you want to mximise your output.
CAT back exhaust. No. Not unless you want the noise.
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I have revo stage 2+ and a bcs tbe. on my ed30 dsg. overall pleased with it, had to my exhaust. touched up as it wasn't made that well first time but seems ok now
Could you please elaborate?
well i have mixed views on my experiences with bcs. the product is fine but both times i visited them i had to wait about 2-3 hours whilst they worked on another car, which isn't great as its a 7 hour round trip for me. when first fitted they messed up they weld behind the mid box and used a cheap clamp cfurther back. both ment the exhaust was blowing. to their credit they fixed both and changed the tail pipes foc but would have preferred not having to go back etc
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I have revo stage 2+ and a bcs tbe. on my ed30 dsg. overall pleased with it, had to my exhaust. touched up as it wasn't made that well first time but seems ok now
Could you please elaborate?
well i have mixed views on my experiences with bcs. the product is fine but both times i visited them i had to wait about 2-3 hours whilst they worked on another car, which isn't great as its a 7 hour round trip for me. when first fitted they messed up they weld behind the mid box and used a cheap clamp cfurther back. both ment the exhaust was blowing. to their credit they fixed both and changed the tail pipes foc but would have preferred not having to go back etc
Didn't you inspect it before leaving? Thanks for your reply.
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Whats the revo 2+ do you have to have a tbe and intake for 2+ map
Yes. You need a CAI, TBE, HPFP and intercooler
WRONG!!!!!! Coming out with things llike this could cost people thousands more than they would like to spendor than they need to spend
The minimum REQUIREMENT is downpipe and HPFP. Other mods just make it better.
HPFP - Yes. Or you will get fuel cut. Stage 2+ is designed around this pump.
Downpipe with sports cat or decat. - Yes
Intercooler -No. Ideally you will have one fitted to reduce heatsoak, but its not a requirement. Worthwhile having, but lots don't bother.
CAI - No, but likethe intercooler its a good idea if you want to mximise your output.
CAT back exhaust. No. Not unless you want the noise.
So if I fit a downpipe&sportscat and get it custom mapped will that be equilivant to stg2?
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Whats the revo 2+ do you have to have a tbe and intake for 2+ map
Yes. You need a CAI, TBE, HPFP and intercooler
WRONG!!!!!! Coming out with things llike this could cost people thousands more than they would like to spendor than they need to spend
The minimum REQUIREMENT is downpipe and HPFP. Other mods just make it better.
HPFP - Yes. Or you will get fuel cut. Stage 2+ is designed around this pump.
Downpipe with sports cat or decat. - Yes
Intercooler -No. Ideally you will have one fitted to reduce heatsoak, but its not a requirement. Worthwhile having, but lots don't bother.
CAI - No, but likethe intercooler its a good idea if you want to mximise your output.
CAT back exhaust. No. Not unless you want the noise.
So if I fit a downpipe&sportscat and get it custom mapped will that be equilivant to stg2?
Correct. I have also fitted the Autotech HPFP and will be fitting a BCS TB exhaust in 7 days. For about £300 extra you could fit the HPFP and go stage 3. Its Shark Stage 3 for me :evilgrin:
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To be honest no i didn't inspect it when the engine was running, you would need to have pretty thorough to spot the welding issue without as the issue was on top of the pipe
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To be honest no i didn't inspect it when the engine was running, you would need to have pretty thorough to spot the welding issue without as the issue was on top of the pipe
Ah, I see. Glad you got it sorted :happy2:
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So am i best getting tbe intake and hpfp before a remap then so i can just got straight to a stage 2+map?
Shane
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Most companies will only charge a small fee to upgrade to stage 2+ anyway, some dont charge at all.
You'll be suprised how quick your car will be with just a stage 1 remap to be honest :happy2:
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Ok cheers mate i jus need to decide what to get now
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Re-Map:-
Shark, Jabbasport or R-tech around the £350-£400 mark, Revo or APR if you have £600 to spend, all seems to say 290 to 310bhp on stage 1, also Superchips dunno how much tho?
Exhaust:-
BCS 950 to £1045 depends on spec
Milltek £1000 to £1100
APR RSC £1200
Supersprint £1500+
Adding in TBE and poss HPFP should be looking at 330-340bhp, poss more, depends who you ask :happy2:
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Re-Map:-
Shark, Jabbasport or R-tech around the £350-£400 mark, Revo or APR if you have £600 to spend, all seems to say 290 to 310bhp on stage 1, also Superchips dunno how much tho?
Exhaust:-
BCS 950 to £1045 depends on spec
Milltek £1000 to £1100
APR RSC £1200
Supersprint £1500+
Adding in TBE and poss HPFP should be looking at 330-340bhp, poss more, depends who you ask :happy2:
I think superchips are £499
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Out of revo shark superchips and pdtuning, the remap that I thought was the most dissapointing was superchips, and I've had them all :laugh:
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Out of revo shark superchips and pdtuning, the remap that I thought was the most dissapointing was superchips, and I've had them all :laugh:
Heavy D, are the others miles ahead of the Superchips Bluefin then? I installed a Stage 1 Bluefin map on my ED30 yesterday and (after a slight mix up with Manual/DSG maps :fighting:) I have to say that it just feels mega for a remap, the boost feels so strong and linear.
I'm more than happy with what its done to mine up to now. I'll probably never go further than Stage 2 though as I want to keep it as reliable as possible and from experience the more after market bits that you bolt on, the more warning lights and issues crop up (maybe that's just a bad experience with my old Audi TT though!!).
I've got a Milltek downpipe and 200 Cell cat in the garage waiting to go on, once I've got spare funds for a decent induction kit (ITG, Twintake or EVOMS hopefully). Is the jump to Stage 2 noticeable or would anyone suggest just leaving the Stage 1 map on to retain a bit of fuel economy?
Thanks, Mike
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We're offering our full 76mm TBE and Motor sport cat along with a stage one re map and panel filter for £1200.00 inc vat fitted at the moment.
Cheers
Nige
BCS Automotive
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Whats the revo 2+ do you have to have a tbe and intake for 2+ map
Yes. You need a CAI, TBE, HPFP and intercooler
WRONG!!!!!! Coming out with things llike this could cost people thousands more than they would like to spendor than they need to spend
The minimum REQUIREMENT is downpipe and HPFP. Other mods just make it better.
HPFP - Yes. Or you will get fuel cut. Stage 2+ is designed around this pump.
Downpipe with sports cat or decat. - Yes
Intercooler -No. Ideally you will have one fitted to reduce heatsoak, but its not a requirement. Worthwhile having, but lots don't bother.
CAI - No, but likethe intercooler its a good idea if you want to mximise your output.
CAT back exhaust. No. Not unless you want the noise.
don't tell me, tell Revo. it's what they've posted on their website. they don't make bolt on parts so they don't stand much to gain for recommending parts from other companies so i have no reason not to believe them, particularly when it relates to their own software.
i know a lot of people don't get an IC, if it were me and my car i would. i'm not going to suggest to another member something i wouldn't do for my own car. simples.
i know most of the restrictions in the exhaust are in the DP, but if you're going for an off the shelf exhaust e.g. Milltek you'll need to get a connector sleeve fabricated for the DP to mate to the OEM cat back. and of course that ignores the fact that flow is limited to the most restricted point in the system. whilst most of the restrictions are in the OE DP, there are some in the catback too. why do something if you're not going to do it properly?
tbh i think if saving money is your objective, then tuning shouldn't be your thing. if you're even considering Stage 2+ on an Eddy you need to factor in a host of other mods as well - brakes, suspension, clutch etc. plus higher running costs, insurance. the whole exercise is expensive so to save £300 on a CAI, £350 on a cat back etc. is absurd.
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Out of revo shark superchips and pdtuning, the remap that I thought was the most dissapointing was superchips, and I've had them all :laugh:
There's not much wrong with the Remaps from Superchips on an Ed30 at stages one and two chap. My car just yesturday absolutely left a brand new Nissan 370 on a straight mile onto the motorway, and that's 323 bhp v6 3.7 litre lump under the bonnet :laugh:
Stage 3 and from what I gather, that's when your statement is correct,and I would look elsewhere. if your going stage 2+ then all your doing is bhp figure hunting..
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Whats the revo 2+ do you have to have a tbe and intake for 2+ map
Yes. You need a CAI, TBE, HPFP and intercooler
WRONG!!!!!! Coming out with things llike this could cost people thousands more than they would like to spendor than they need to spend
The minimum REQUIREMENT is downpipe and HPFP. Other mods just make it better.
HPFP - Yes. Or you will get fuel cut. Stage 2+ is designed around this pump.
Downpipe with sports cat or decat. - Yes
Intercooler -No. Ideally you will have one fitted to reduce heatsoak, but its not a requirement. Worthwhile having, but lots don't bother.
CAI - No, but likethe intercooler its a good idea if you want to mximise your output.
CAT back exhaust. No. Not unless you want the noise.
don't tell me, tell Revo. it's what they've posted on their website. they don't make bolt on parts so they don't stand much to gain for recommending parts from other companies so i have no reason not to believe them, particularly when it relates to their own software.
i know a lot of people don't get an IC, if it were me and my car i would. i'm not going to suggest to another member something i wouldn't do for my own car. simples.
i know most of the restrictions in the exhaust are in the DP, but if you're going for an off the shelf exhaust e.g. Milltek you'll need to get a connector sleeve fabricated for the DP to mate to the OEM cat back. and of course that ignores the fact that flow is limited to the most restricted point in the system. whilst most of the restrictions are in the OE DP, there are some in the catback too. why do something if you're not going to do it properly?
tbh i think if saving money is your objective, then tuning shouldn't be your thing. if you're even considering Stage 2+ on an Eddy you need to factor in a host of other mods as well - brakes, suspension, clutch etc. plus higher running costs, insurance. the whole exercise is expensive so to save £300 on a CAI, £350 on a cat back etc. is absurd.
I'm going to get a milltek downpipe&sportcat connect to oem exhaust and a remap next month..can't wait
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We're offering our full 76mm TBE and Motor sport cat along with a stage one re map and panel filter for £1200.00 inc vat fitted at the moment.
Cheers
Nige
BCS Automotive
That's a pretty good price Nigel, I take it that's using a GIAC map.
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Cheers, we actually working with a European mapping company who have demonstrated some fantastic results to us using our kit.
Thanks
Nige
:happy2: