MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Homer on March 24, 2012, 08:10:27 pm
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Hi folks, I have a mate who is a mechanic and he says that modern cars including my GTI are simply not made as well as they once were- I questioned why and his reply was that having worked on many a car he has found that a lot of the parts are now being made in China. He said regardless of whether it’s a Merc, BMW etc when he is working on the engine he finds most the parts say made in China. I said that doesn’t necessarily mean they are crap parts to which he said everything made in China is generally S***. Anyway just wanted to know your thoughts, were the GTI's of old better than the ones we have today?
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:chicken: Ask him to show you were it says "Made in China" on something.
I have had many a part off/on/replaced on my car and never noticed a "made in China" label. Not saying they aren't but I think he is talking bollocks personally.
Here is a part I happened to have in the garage. I never knew China was in France :grin:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fww275%2FTaufe%2F73a83449.jpg&hash=364d727bff4cfffa5f1c111fbbae7d3dbc71a66c)
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What car does your mate drive?
No matter where things are made they still need to meet the standards of the manufacturer :happy2:
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Sounds like pub-talk to me. :drinking: :drinking: :stupid:
My Mk5 feels as well put together as any of my older Golfs, and the Mk6 I drove recently felt bomb-proof, a step up in quality.
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After owning 9 Hondas, which upheld the reliability awards Honda are renowned for, I looked for reliability first and foremost when shopping for something a bit easier to get the power from.
5 years and 52,000 miles later, most of that remapped, all that's gone wrong with my Eddie is a wheel bearing, and even that wasn't needed in a hurry.
Made in China? Pish. Parts are well above made in China prices, which sucks on one hand, but is good news on the other
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I think the Mk5 is probably one of the better built cars around. The Mk6 is built "cheaper" whatever that implies. :scared:
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Im not sure about the china thing. But i do agree with the build quality thing. I do think my Mk4 Anniversary was built better than my Mk5 GTI. The 5 blows it out of the water in handling, performance etc but i sometimes feel like its a bit fragile compared to the 4.
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I think the Mk5 is probably one of the better built cars around. The Mk6 is built "cheaper" whatever that implies. :scared:
....I think VAG are saying that built "cheaper" means they are cheaper to build. More efficient to build and hence saving costs, perhaps, rather than built with cheapo parts. :happy2:
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I think the cabin on the mk6 is better than the mk5, however everything seems the same (because 99% of it is)
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I think the cabin on the mk6 is better than the mk5, however everything seems the same (because 99% of it is)
....The term "better" is subjective. Most folks would agree with you but I personally much prefer the less bling interior styling of the Mk5. I don't like lots of silvery bits in a car's cockpit.
I recall reading that the Mk6's doors were much cheaper to manufacture. Yet they close just as well.
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Sorry.. by better i meant build quality wise.
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All built with cost in mind. I don't think anything is made/manufactured these days using the same quality materials as used yrs ago.
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All built with cost in mind. I don't think anything is made/manufactured these days using the same quality materials as used yrs ago.
My farts are :grin:
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I don't think the MK5 is as well built as the cars that preceded it. I've had a lot of problems with mine and I've never been impressed with the build quality of the interior, particularly in comparison to a MK4 I used to own. I've had extended experience with a number of MK6 Golfs, all of which have felt more solid than the MK5 too.
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I think interior quality wise the older the car the worse it is, so m6 would be better/nicer inside materials and noise level wise than mk5 and mk5 better than mk4 etc I exclude general preferneces ect
however talking about technicalities and relaibility the older the better due to:
-less electronics used
-less power from an engine capacity and not all comes from technical advancements - engines more strained
-cheaper the better approach and even more in current economic climate etc
Paul
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I'd agree that the interior plastics of the Mk4's I owned seemed of a higher quality. The V6 4Motion in particular felt bombproof, a beautifully made car.
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my mate has had and old shape Merc C-Class and a current shape one
my ex gf's dad had an old shape E-Class and i've been in a current one too
and my parents have both an old and current shape S-Class on the drive
all all accounts the newer cars are better build
Mk5 wise a lot of the commentators reported the Mk5 wasn't as well built as the Mk4. when i was choosing a car that's what swung me to the Audi. the 8P is, to my eyes, better built.
BUT if you asked me to pick between a Mk6 and an 8P the Mk6 would win hands down. soooo i don't think it's as simple as everything's getting worse as time passes