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Title: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper - The End
Post by: DanGB on April 01, 2012, 05:47:29 pm
Just realised I dont have my own build thread on here  :surprised:

So thought I might as well as im getting back into the car this year after it was neglected last year.

So, the story begins here:
I bought a new Seat Leon Sport TFSI back in April 2006 like this:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seatcupra.net%2Fimages%2FDanGB%2Fimage0.jpg&hash=94b84109025056c24b0120c2062d2876e340ea5d)

Started off of a 185hp top spec (at the time) Leon, then the FR, Cupra, and then Cupra R came out.

since then spent far to much money on it in the form of this:

Engine:

APR Stage 3 Big turbo conversion:
Garret GT2871RS Turbo GTX2876R Now
APR Manifold + downpipe
APR Intercooler
APR Fuel pump
APR Injectors
APR/Carbonio closed intake
APR 155bar fuel rail valve
TTRS Intank pump

Intergrated engineering connecting rods.
APR Hi-flowed head.
APR Runner flap delete

Snow performance Stage 2 TFSI Boost cooler - Water methanol injection kit. (Broken  :confused:)
BSH stage 2 PCV Catch can.
APR RSC Full turboback exhaust
Southbend Stage 3 Clutch with ligtened SMF
Forge shortshifter
VWracing engine mounts.

Handling:
All wheel drive Haldex conversion
KW Variant 3 Coilovers
H&R Front and rear ARB's - stiff variety
Whitleline anti lift kit
AP Racing 6 piston calipers and AP rotors/bells. TTRS Calipers and AP Racing 362mm fully floating rotors.
Currently Pagid yellow pads - soon to be Project Mu.
ATE Superblue brake fluid
10mm H&R spacers on the front to clear the calipers

Interior:
Retrofitted the OEM Bluetooth system with a new instrument cluster
Had the MFD3 for a while, but not anymore

Exterior:
Seat Sport BBS 18x7.5 wheels with R888's currently.
Stud conversion

Havent done much to it over the last two years really, but now getting into it again and after a bit more power. Had the APR stage 3 since the start of 2008 so used to it now  :grin:

Recent picture:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fleonphoto.jpg&hash=f0b92a5dabc462fd52e604145dc912a7e2d204ef)
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: james on April 01, 2012, 07:08:06 pm
looking good mate  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: s3dubbin on April 01, 2012, 07:22:20 pm
Power just now Dan and wherez it going this year? Cheers, Stevie.  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on April 01, 2012, 07:29:08 pm
About 390 -395 now.

The car is currently at APR HQ getting a new low side fuel pump as its running out at the top end.
Once this is in, they will map as much power as can be had (as its already got rods), then I will test the Race  fuel map with the WMI which should yield even bigger increases  :drool:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Sie on April 01, 2012, 07:35:35 pm
That's a serious wolf in Sheeps clothing. Liking it alot. What's involved with stud conversion?

Sie
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on April 01, 2012, 07:38:23 pm
That's a serious wolf in Sheeps clothing. Liking it alot. What's involved with stud conversion?

Sie

just screwing appropriately sized and cut studs (same thread as wheel bolt) and using thread locker to keep them semi-permanent. Then the nuts screw on to secure the wheel.
This makes removing/replacing wheels a lot easier and it certainly helps on the front as I have a spacer fitted.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: s3dubbin on April 01, 2012, 07:47:54 pm
Quality. Is it APR's own lpfp?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: damoegan on April 01, 2012, 08:56:47 pm
WHat wheels are they, Dan?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on April 01, 2012, 09:09:34 pm
And can you remember how much the large screen cluster was dan? ta
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on April 01, 2012, 09:23:01 pm
And can you remember how much the large screen cluster was dan? ta

500 or so pounds I think.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on April 01, 2012, 09:23:30 pm
Quality. Is it APR's own lpfp?
Probably the USP Aux fueling solution.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on April 01, 2012, 09:25:23 pm
WHat wheels are they, Dan?

They are SEAT Accessory wheels.

Seat Sport made by BBS  - 18x7.5 ET54. Ordered them with the car and sold the 17's that it came with.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: damoegan on April 01, 2012, 09:41:44 pm
WHat wheels are they, Dan?

They are SEAT Accessory wheels.

Seat Sport made by BBS  - 18x8 ET54. Ordered them with the car and sold the 17's that it came with.

Did you have them on at Oulton Park the other year? I cant remember them?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on April 01, 2012, 09:47:16 pm
WHat wheels are they, Dan?

They are SEAT Accessory wheels.

Seat Sport made by BBS  - 18x8 ET54. Ordered them with the car and sold the 17's that it came with.

Did you have them on at Oulton Park the other year? I cant remember them?

No, I probably had the black Pro race 1.2's  I used to have  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Hurdy on April 01, 2012, 10:46:44 pm
About time you had a thread on here  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on April 17, 2012, 11:31:20 am
Got some goodies coming later, cant wait  :laugh:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: chungster on April 17, 2012, 12:27:45 pm
I remember seeing this car when it was new and standard, and how u said "nah not gonna mod it"

 :grin:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on April 17, 2012, 12:29:46 pm
I remember seeing this car when it was new and standard, and how u said "nah not gonna mod it"

 :grin:

haa classic  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on April 17, 2012, 10:30:02 pm
Well hello there...

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fr888.jpg&hash=6c2df169dce3233106a07065fb27bdabf1f57c98)
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Hedge on April 17, 2012, 10:50:29 pm
I remember seeing this car when it was new and standard, and how u said "nah not gonna mod it"

 :grin:

I remember seeing this car at the Leather Bottle, Mattingley just after it went stage 2.  :wink:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on April 17, 2012, 10:51:44 pm
I remember seeing this car when it was new and standard, and how u said "nah not gonna mod it"

 :grin:

I remember seeing this car at the Leather Bottle, Mattingley just after it went stage 2.  :wink:

I remember too! When you had your VRS!
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on April 17, 2012, 10:57:30 pm

how long have you spent thinking about awd...  :popcornsoda: :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on April 17, 2012, 10:59:06 pm
about 5 hours in total  :drool:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on April 17, 2012, 10:59:57 pm

you are about 2 hours infront of me  :laugh:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on April 18, 2012, 10:03:20 am
Its easier for you to get a different car with 4WD, and put yours back to standard.
Not for me with the turbo kit and other sh*te ive done to it.  :stupid:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on April 22, 2012, 11:03:32 pm
Mega weekend!
Collected the car Friday night after some work at APR - New USP low pressure fuel pump, madding for more power, and a fix to my cold start issues.
Car is quick epically quick now.
found some massive cracks in the brake disc (rotor) which really needed replacing, so limped it home desperately trying to get hold of some before Santa pod fun on Sunday (today).

DaveB to the rescue! He arranged for some to be ready for me to collect on Saturday, all the way up in Rochdale!!
Got he R888's fitted in the morning, then took the 3 hour 45 minute journey to Rochdale and collected the new rotors. Kudos to Dave and Alan for arranging this.

Went down to MK VW Racing/APR and Keith let me use the workshop to change the rotors over, quite a long job as you have to remove and replace the bolts from the rotors to the bell. turns out we didn't have an imperial Hex key that the bolts needed, so had to quickly rush to Halfords just before it closed! Had a nice go  in the VWR Scirocco though!

Got the brakes fitted eventually then a new map was loaded and tested for timing pull etc. Got the Travelodge in Northampton about 11pm last night, just in the nick of time.

Drove to Santa pod, car was EPIC, best its ever been.

Then two miles from Pod, this happened:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fbreakdown1.jpg&hash=646ac9b5ffd503a97618ea5ef4dbbf495203ed5b)

Basically had stopped to wait for something, then pulled away a bit quicker than normal and it stalled, started the engine, and it would not then go into gear!!  :mad:

Called recovery, obviously nothing they could do, but managed to get it into gear when the engine was not running then start it and jump into motion, did mange second gear once too.

had a decent day at pod considering..

Car got picked up and then dropped off at APR again
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fbreakdown2.jpg&hash=d3d63ee7a22cff54d83cd84090492d1aa14efa77)

Keith reckons its either the release bearing or the Pressure plate - hoping for the cheaper option. They will take a look this week.

Thanks to Keith and the team at APR for all the hard work and patience.
They will be mapping it to take advantage of the WMI now, so even more power to come!   woohoo! :driver:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on April 22, 2012, 11:08:54 pm

Such a stealth assasin Dan!  Love it!  :evilgrin:

Hope clutch is a cheep fix Dan.

Dave is a diamond bloke met him up in rochdale a few times myself. 

Do you know if APR would alter a Ko4 St2+ file for WMI?  :innocent:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 22, 2012, 11:10:45 pm
Was only Looking at your car on Friday at Vwr I like that massive intake it looks massive
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on April 23, 2012, 09:44:10 am



Do you know if APR would alter a Ko4 St2+ file for WMI?  :innocent:

You can only ask  :party:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Hurdy on April 23, 2012, 12:59:56 pm



Do you know if APR would alter a Ko4 St2+ file for WMI?  :innocent:

You can only ask  :party:

I asked and they would do one for my Polo :evilgrin: so I can't see why they wouldn't for a full K04'd car.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 23, 2012, 01:03:43 pm
They said the would do it for mine as well, although ive changed my plans on that front. Cooling is no longer an issue
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on April 23, 2012, 01:19:34 pm
They said the would do it for mine as well, although ive changed my plans on that front. Cooling is no longer an issue

is work no loner an issue, part timer??  :fighting:

I will ask keith about WMI Adjustments  :innocent:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Hurdy on April 23, 2012, 02:12:42 pm
WMI with a 50/50 mix should be the equivalent of permanently running 110+ Ron race fuel with the supercooling of a hyper efficient intercooler. This allows you to run much more timing advance without the ecu giving any pull. Should give a good 20+ bhp extra over stage 2+ with the higher mapping to take advantage of the WMI.  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on April 23, 2012, 05:41:19 pm
Worst case scenario has come true. the disc has welded to the flywheel. New clutch time.  :sick:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: djhorace on April 23, 2012, 06:21:12 pm
Not handy Dan - Any ideas which one you fancy replacing it with?

How have you found the 888's so far by the way?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 23, 2012, 06:24:27 pm
what clutch kit is in your car ?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: chungster on April 23, 2012, 07:25:44 pm
what clutch kit is in your car ?

According to his first post a Southbend stage 4 kit with lightened flywheel

But he's had that for a few years and giving it some serious abuse!
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: rich83 on April 23, 2012, 07:30:52 pm
So that was you, i drove past you... if i had know i would have stopped!  :sad1:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on April 23, 2012, 08:08:40 pm
Not handy Dan - Any ideas which one you fancy replacing it with?

How have you found the 888's so far by the way?

Going for a Southbend Stage 3 clutch -ie; not feramic material, so no chance of welding this time.

R888's seem good, not really pushed them yet, not sure on the noise as had the seats stripped out at the same time, but they feel good :)
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on April 23, 2012, 08:09:13 pm
So that was you, i drove past you... if i had know i would have stopped!  :sad1:

I wondered if you were off the forum  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 04, 2012, 11:40:31 pm
Saw your dyno graph today whilst me and mike were at APR   :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: 

That car must be absolutely immense now!!!!!!! :party:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on May 05, 2012, 09:11:58 am
Saw your dyno graph today whilst me and mike were at APR   :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: 

That car must be absolutely immense now!!!!!!! :party:

I aint seen??!  :laugh:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Poverty on May 05, 2012, 09:43:58 am
Saw your dyno graph today whilst me and mike were at APR   :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: 

That car must be absolutely immense now!!!!!!! :party:

 :driver:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on May 22, 2012, 12:04:41 pm
Saw your dyno graph today whilst me and mike were at APR   :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: 

That car must be absolutely immense now!!!!!!! :party:

In a way it actually feel's slower now as the map is so much more linear, meaning I can actually get most of the power down in 3rd gear and some in second now at full throttle.  :signLOL:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Exhaust upgrade
Post by: DanGB on May 22, 2012, 12:09:56 pm
Bit of an update.

Had the intake cam repalced due to it causing excess and uneven wear on the cam follower. We found it already had a B cam in it.

Also had a new exhaust fitted. Previously had a 2.75 milltek all the way, now have a 3" APR RSC full system, currently with a sports cat, but that might go soon!
This exhaust sounds very different than the milltek, similar at WOT, but low revs it sounds much more straight through and gives some subtle popping and occasional bang.
Very quite on motorway driving which is nice, as I currently have the rear seats removed.

I much prefer the tips on these rather than the old milltek, and they are easier to clean!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ak-ash3%2F546501_10151725509515398_876835397_23974992_1248433674_n.jpg&hash=7250da6ce26cd4ffbcc4e468283c47891fa3008a)
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: Cupra R on May 22, 2012, 12:27:37 pm
Looks good Dan

Did APR adapt them then Dan as I thought that originally they had clearance issues on the Leon's.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 22, 2012, 12:31:10 pm

Iirc awesome put this system on Dans car when APR were over years ago calibrating the stage III

Not sure what system you had on at the time dan? Miltek?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: DanGB on May 22, 2012, 12:35:52 pm
Yeah had the Milltek all along Mike

Cupra R; this is a RSC exhaust, so maybe different from the older APR exhaust. The one I have is an A3 model so fits fit, the tips just still out a tiny bit more than the Golf model.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 22, 2012, 12:37:53 pm
Yeah Had the Milltek all along.

Cupra R; this is a RSC exhausr, so maybe different from the older APR exhaust. The one I have is an A3 model so fits fit, the tips just still out a tiny bit more than the Golf model.

Don't know why they bothered but when someone from Awesome took me out in your car they'd fitted an APR exhaust to it?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: DanGB on May 22, 2012, 12:40:37 pm
Yeah Had the Milltek all along.

Cupra R; this is a RSC exhausr, so maybe different from the older APR exhaust. The one I have is an A3 model so fits fit, the tips just still out a tiny bit more than the Golf model.

Don't know why they bothered but when someone from Awesome took me out in your car they'd fitted an APR exhaust to it?

Maybe for Baseline purposes as the milltek 2.75 was an unkown to them?

I actually had a barstewardsised downpipe, as the dowpipe section was APR 3 inch which was welded straight onto the cat, and the cat output was the standard 2.75 for the rest of the zorst to fit on to. Guess this was awesomes handy work  :laugh: - Not seen it before.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 22, 2012, 12:42:39 pm

 :scared: apr / awesome / miltek hybrid lol
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: Cupra R on May 22, 2012, 02:39:27 pm
Yeah had the Milltek all along Mike

Cupra R; this is a RSC exhaust, so maybe different from the older APR exhaust. The one I have is an A3 model so fits fit, the tips just still out a tiny bit more than the Golf model.

Hmm, not sure then Dan

I just remember I wanted the RSC System but was told by Awesome it wouldn't fit.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: DanGB on May 25, 2012, 01:59:30 pm
Getting used to the exhaust now and starting to enjoy it, looking forward to a blast in the Hindhead tunnel tomorrow!  :driver:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: Hedge on May 25, 2012, 02:04:03 pm
Watch the average speed cameras Dan.  :smiley:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: DanGB on May 25, 2012, 02:04:53 pm
Watch the average speed cameras Dan.  :smiley:

damn I was worried someone would say something like that and spoil my hopes!  :laugh:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: Hedge on May 25, 2012, 02:08:00 pm
Yes they have them either end of the tunnel.
I have a theory though as you can cross back to the other carriageway before the camera on your side go back through the tunnel and cross back again for another run without being filmed.  :wink:

Don't shoot me if it goes titsup though.  :laugh:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: rich83 on May 25, 2012, 02:11:05 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.affixit.co.uk%2Fimages%2F3120_white.jpg&hash=522fc651bab44d9eaf1150b3ae80d2d3c61f775c)

 :popcornsoda:

 :signLOL:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: DanGB on May 25, 2012, 02:17:52 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.affixit.co.uk%2Fimages%2F3120_white.jpg&hash=522fc651bab44d9eaf1150b3ae80d2d3c61f775c)

 :popcornsoda:

 :signLOL:

I dont get it!?   :ashamed:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: rich83 on May 25, 2012, 02:19:24 pm
Tape over numberplates.....  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: Hedge on May 25, 2012, 02:39:33 pm
Just unscrew them.  :wink:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: DanGB on May 25, 2012, 02:41:48 pm
mine are velcro, even easier  :signLOL:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: Hedge on May 25, 2012, 02:44:37 pm
Well it is a 70 limit through he tunnel normally so some scope for a play.

Drive past the 1st camera and stop for 5 minutes.  :laugh:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: DanGB on June 07, 2012, 04:51:35 pm
now got Low compression on cylinders 3 and 4, oopsie!  :fighting:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: E30Dom on June 07, 2012, 04:56:17 pm
now got Low compression on cylinders 3 and 4, oopsie!  :fighting:

Uh oh... that's not good, what's the plan now?

Dom
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: DanGB on June 07, 2012, 05:23:53 pm
APR are investigating next week!
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: Hurdy on June 07, 2012, 05:45:14 pm
now got Low compression on cylinders 3 and 4, oopsie!  :fighting:

 :scared:

Haven't you got uprated pistons and rods Dan?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: Poverty on June 07, 2012, 06:00:36 pm
now got Low compression on cylinders 3 and 4, oopsie!  :fighting:

 :scared:

Haven't you got uprated pistons and rods Dan?

thought it was just rods?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: keith on June 07, 2012, 08:34:13 pm
good to see this again, looking at getting an fr tfsi and there like hens teeth dont seem to be many modded ones over cup.net either.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: danh on June 07, 2012, 10:00:42 pm
Saw your car on SeatCupra when I first bought mine and found a lot of your posts helpful! Sorry to hear about the problems

When I went down to APR a few weeks back the tech showed me my cam follower which had only been changed 5000 miles previous!! Was shocked at how badly worn it was! Then he showed me the intake cam had markings on it... Then when setting off from traffic lights getting cloud of blue smoke, could be the decat but also could be turbo/pistons

Looks like 50,000 miles at Stage 2+ in 18 months has taken its tole on my poor BWA engine

Strip and Sell time :(

Think next couple of years we will hear about a lot more of the BWA engines having problems with the intake cams as even though you put the new follower in it has already done the damage!!
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: DanGB on June 07, 2012, 10:50:27 pm
now got Low compression on cylinders 3 and 4, oopsie!  :fighting:

 :scared:

Haven't you got uprated pistons and rods Dan?

thought it was just rods?

Yep just rods!
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: Hedge on June 07, 2012, 10:51:56 pm
Sorry to hear this Dan.  :sad1:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: james on June 08, 2012, 11:59:02 am
bloody hell, sorry to hear that dude :sick:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: chungster on June 08, 2012, 12:33:16 pm
Gutted for you Dan. This caused by the recent "aggressive remapping" that was done you reckon??
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 22/05
Post by: DFish on June 08, 2012, 01:42:48 pm
nah I'd blame the driver. ;) Hope you get it sorted soon.

Fish
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 04/07
Post by: DanGB on July 04, 2012, 02:50:25 pm
Engines all good now thanks to APR for there help, so Head being sent off for some high-flowing goodness to APR USA :happy2: Should be interesting to see the results from that!

Also got a nice de-cat pipe made up by Alex @ AKS, ive not seen it yet, but everyone reckons its really good! Cant wait to hear the sound difference either  :smiley:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 04/07
Post by: E30Dom on July 04, 2012, 03:33:03 pm
Engines all good now thanks to APR for there help, so Head being sent off for some high-flowing goodness to APR USA :happy2: Should be interesting to see the results from that!

Also got a nice de-cat pipe made up by Alex @ AKS, ive not seen it yet, but everyone reckons its really good! Cant wait to hear the sound difference either  :smiley:

Is there a job lot on high flow APR heads at the mo... ?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 04/07
Post by: DanGB on July 04, 2012, 03:48:10 pm
Engines all good now thanks to APR for there help, so Head being sent off for some high-flowing goodness to APR USA :happy2: Should be interesting to see the results from that!

Also got a nice de-cat pipe made up by Alex @ AKS, ive not seen it yet, but everyone reckons its really good! Cant wait to hear the sound difference either  :smiley:

Is there a job lot on high flow APR heads at the mo... ?

Might well be!
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 04/07
Post by: E30Dom on July 04, 2012, 04:13:06 pm
Well just glad you're getting it sorted mate!
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 04/07
Post by: RedRobin on July 04, 2012, 04:37:29 pm

Looks like 50,000 miles at Stage 2+ in 18 months has taken its tole on my poor BWA engine

Strip and Sell time :(

Think next couple of years we will hear about a lot more of the BWA engines having problems with the intake cams as even though you put the new follower in it has already done the damage!!


....Another reason to ignore some folks on here and to stay on Revo Stage 2 on my K03 engine. Actually it's an AXX, not a BWA, engine - Are they much different regarding this potential issue?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 04/07
Post by: DanGB on July 04, 2012, 04:48:35 pm

Looks like 50,000 miles at Stage 2+ in 18 months has taken its tole on my poor BWA engine

Strip and Sell time :(

Think next couple of years we will hear about a lot more of the BWA engines having problems with the intake cams as even though you put the new follower in it has already done the damage!!


....Another reason to ignore some folks on here and to stay on Revo Stage 2 on my K03 engine. Actually it's an AXX, not a BWA, engine - Are they much different regarding this potential issue?

In theory I would of through the AXX would be more suseptable to the issues as they would proably have the A cam rather than the later B cam.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 04/07
Post by: vRSAlex on July 04, 2012, 05:06:35 pm

Looks like 50,000 miles at Stage 2+ in 18 months has taken its tole on my poor BWA engine

Strip and Sell time :(

Think next couple of years we will hear about a lot more of the BWA engines having problems with the intake cams as even though you put the new follower in it has already done the damage!!


....Another reason to ignore some folks on here and to stay on Revo Stage 2 on my K03 engine. Actually it's an AXX, not a BWA, engine - Are they much different regarding this potential issue?

In theory I would of through the AXX would be more suseptable to the issues as they would proably have the A cam rather than the later B cam.

Ive had a BWA come in recently which had a fooked 'A' cam fitted!

Robin, its worth checking of you have an A cam in yours and getting it changed for a B as stage 2+ with the APR pump will put alot more strain on the cam.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 04/07
Post by: RedRobin on July 04, 2012, 05:15:13 pm

....Another reason to ignore some folks on here and to stay on Revo Stage 2 on my K03 engine. Actually it's an AXX, not a BWA, engine - Are they much different regarding this potential issue?


In theory I would of through the AXX would be more suseptable to the issues as they would proably have the A cam rather than the later B cam.


Ive had a BWA come in recently which had a fooked 'A' cam fitted!

Robin, its worth checking of you have an A cam in yours and getting it changed for a B as stage 2+ with the APR pump will put alot more strain on the cam.


....Thanks for helpful advice, yet again, Alex  :drinking:

I have no intention of upping from Revo Stage 2 to 2+ (even if it was free of charge). I do have the APR pump now.

Is it easy (and therefore not expensive) to have the A cam checked? How do I learn which version my AXX engine has?

[Apologies for the temporary thread hijack, DanGB]
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 04/07
Post by: vRSAlex on July 04, 2012, 06:32:43 pm
The only real way is to take the cam side cover off and have a look at the end of the cam.  The A cam is one piece where the B cam has the fuel pump lobe pressed on and is visibly two piece.

If you are on Revo Stg 2 then the pump may already be running at 130bar.

The cam is fairly easy for a good garage to do.  Book time is around 7 hours iirc, but there is a much faster way of doing them which can bring the time down to around 4 hours for the complete job.

How long has it been since the follow was last done?


Back on Dan's thread...

Is the engine back together now is is the head off with Steve's for some 'play'?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 04/07
Post by: DanGB on July 04, 2012, 07:06:02 pm
Yep, engine is/was together and head is being worked on. Needed some work up there anyway as it sounded like a 'bucket' was stuck, causing a tappety noise recently.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 04/07
Post by: RedRobin on July 04, 2012, 08:17:19 pm

The only real way is to take the cam side cover off and have a look at the end of the cam.  The A cam is one piece where the B cam has the fuel pump lobe pressed on and is visibly two piece.

If you are on Revo Stg 2 then the pump may already be running at 130bar.

The cam is fairly easy for a good garage to do.  Book time is around 7 hours iirc, but there is a much faster way of doing them which can bring the time down to around 4 hours for the complete job.

How long has it been since the follow was last done?


....7 hrs!?  :surprised: Even 4 hrs would be expensive.

The Cam Follower was last done only a few weeks ago by JKM when they installed my APR HPFP.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 04/07
Post by: DanGB on October 08, 2012, 01:52:00 pm
Bit of a late update, but here goes.

Had the APR RSC exhaust decatted, and of course the hi flow work on the head down a the other month.

Oy my God how good does it sound through tunnels, its like a touring car, its unbeleivable how good the sound from this 2.0T is!
The beauty is that on motorways theres no drone at all, and its only when you put your foot down on full chat that it really opens up, and is great!

I'll try and get some clips if i can.

Car currently being tweaked again map wise, and aircon removed, for that little bit extra oomph, then some more changes coming very soon  :driver:

The watermeth has decided to stop working for no reason so ive lost interest in that!
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 08/10
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on October 08, 2012, 04:00:34 pm

Can't wait for the 'other changes'  :evilgrin: :party:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 08/10
Post by: DanGB on October 10, 2012, 10:53:58 am
Oh I managed to do this last time I visited santa pod:

The first run we had the powerflex dogbone mount rubber insert broke in half, leaving some on the start line.
We then replaced the whole mount with an OEM one in  a rush job, and on the first run back, this happened on the burn up, we still did a 13.5 run with it broken though  :P

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/527090_379755698760293_1970195754_n.jpg)


I had the two side engine mount replaced with VWRacing mounts recently, but they did not realise the lower mount had not been done, thats done now thankfully, so this shouldnt happen again.  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 08/10
Post by: Janner_Sy on October 10, 2012, 12:21:55 pm
any more plans on the power front?  Are you  running the same GTX28 turbo as on keiths Golf R?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 08/10
Post by: DanGB on October 10, 2012, 12:30:56 pm
Not sure on the power front, depends on the waterweth, if it decides to work.
We had a boost leak of some sort so thats being looked at now, as that was probably robbing power.

Its running the possibly slightly larger but older GT2871R, where as Keith's GolfR is The newer and maybe better GTX2867 I believe.

Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 08/10
Post by: danishmkvgti on October 11, 2012, 01:24:14 am
Oh I managed to do this last time I visited santa pod:

The first run we had the powerflex dogbone mount rubber insert broke in half, leaving some on the start line.
We then replaced the whole mount with an OEM one in  a rush job, and on the first run back, this happened on the burn up, we still did a 13.5 run with it broken though  :P

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/527090_379755698760293_1970195754_n.jpg)


I had the two side engine mount replaced with VWRacing mounts recently, but they did not realise the lower mount had not been done, thats done now thankfully, so this shouldnt happen again.  :happy2:

As i have had the same problems BNAutoteknik has made the reinforced mount for me as shown in this link, maybe you should consider getting the same done?

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,7823.msg617709.html#msg617709
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 08/10
Post by: DanGB on October 12, 2012, 10:06:56 am
Thats an interesting concept! I shall see how it fairs with mt new mount. :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 08/10
Post by: DanGB on October 15, 2012, 02:30:30 pm
Went to santa pod this weekend for some runs, and had a few goes on the handling course, which was fun  :driver:

Performance wasnt too good, im really not good at quarter miles, cant control the power at the start and gear changes arnt great.
Due to the massive wheelspin at the start I only managed 13.47 @ 113.77. this could should do twleves if driven properly!

The handling course was much better though..
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DFish on October 15, 2012, 02:35:34 pm
At least the exhaust sounds good.  :happy2:

Fish
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on October 15, 2012, 08:13:33 pm
Was a good day, and thankfully nothing broke this time  :congrats:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 08/10
Post by: Janner_Sy on October 16, 2012, 08:28:43 am
Due to the massive wheelspin at the start I only managed 13.47 @ 113.77. this could should do twleves if driven properly!


Would you not be interested in trying some drag radials just to see what it can do with some grip? 
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Cupra R on October 16, 2012, 09:33:33 am
What Hp you got now Dan?

You ever thought of following in mYgels footsteps?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Hurdy on October 16, 2012, 10:14:40 am
Your car sounds very good Dan. Briefly saw you again at the end of the day too. You should be kicking down 12's on the strip. Get those launches practiced :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 08/10
Post by: Jussa on October 16, 2012, 10:18:15 am
Due to the massive wheelspin at the start I only managed 13.47 @ 113.77. this could should do twleves if driven properly!


Would you not be interested in trying some drag radials just to see what it can do with some grip? 

Dan, did they stop u and ask u to put your helmet on, or were u just wearing it anyway?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 08/10
Post by: DanGB on October 16, 2012, 07:39:38 pm
Due to the massive wheelspin at the start I only managed 13.47 @ 113.77. this could should do twleves if driven properly!


Would you not be interested in trying some drag radials just to see what it can do with some grip? 

could do, but have some other plans instead  :innocent:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI - Update 08/10
Post by: DanGB on October 16, 2012, 07:40:26 pm
Due to the massive wheelspin at the start I only managed 13.47 @ 113.77. this could should do twleves if driven properly!


Would you not be interested in trying some drag radials just to see what it can do with some grip? 

Dan, did they stop u and ask u to put your helmet on, or were u just wearing it anyway?

I had the helmet on normally, apart from one run, and at the end tell told me to wear a helmet!
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on October 16, 2012, 07:54:13 pm
What Hp you got now Dan?

You ever thought of following in mYgels footsteps?

Here's a graph from Friday night. No-water meth at the moment, its broken. Possible boost leak as well, doesnt seem to be making as much boost as it should.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2F466.jpg&hash=f4cb222edc211a49913f599abcb3ea6c9fffe36e)

And yes, following in mYgels footsteps did cross my mind!  :smiley:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Cupra R on October 16, 2012, 08:02:53 pm
What Hp you got now Dan?

You ever thought of following in mYgels footsteps?

Here's a graph from Friday night. No-water meth at the moment, its broken. Possible boost leak as well, doesnt seem to be making as much boost as it should.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2F466.jpg&hash=f4cb222edc211a49913f599abcb3ea6c9fffe36e)

And yes, following in mYgels footsteps did cross my mind!  :smiley:

Nice result there Dan. Be interesting to see the difference when the WMI is working too.

Don't let it cross your mind, let it stick there  :signLOL:

Do it! How about being the first DSG Leon retrofit too (that I know of) :innocent:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: chungster on October 16, 2012, 09:03:53 pm
Bit of a Strange step change in the torque curve there Dan....
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on March 03, 2013, 04:01:42 pm
Well better start updating this again as things are happening.

Been off the road for a few weeks for a few reasons.
Firstly treating it to a brake caliper refrub, the Red AP's are looking a bit worse for wear currently, and some new fluid (ATE super blue) and some supposidly awesome Project Mu brake pads from the legendary DaveB  :happy2:
Will give a full report on the pads once they are on.

But thats not the real reason its off the road... Something BIG is happening, all will be revelaed in a couple of weeks though to make it the ULTIMATE sleeper  :drool:

watch this space  :party:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on March 03, 2013, 04:05:09 pm

 :evilgrin:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: chungster on March 03, 2013, 04:07:40 pm
What are you upto Dan??

Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: rich83 on March 03, 2013, 04:08:18 pm
BT
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on March 03, 2013, 04:11:33 pm
BT

Welcome to 5 years ago mate  :P
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: rich83 on March 03, 2013, 04:14:38 pm
Bigger  BIGGER turbo?

WMI?

Nitro?


Ive no idea what your spec list is...
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on March 03, 2013, 04:15:24 pm
Cant possibly say just yet rich  :laugh:

See the first page for the spec list.  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: rich83 on March 03, 2013, 04:18:36 pm
LOL... WMI then....  :congrats:

(or GT30)
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on March 03, 2013, 04:20:02 pm
PS; anyone who know's keep there mouth shut for now :grin:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Hurdy on March 03, 2013, 04:28:03 pm
Methinks I know :wink:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on March 03, 2013, 04:28:56 pm
PS; anyone who know's keep there mouth shut for now :grin:

 :innocent:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Poverty on March 03, 2013, 05:30:10 pm
I can make a good guess. Will be awesome! #GOAPR
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: james on March 04, 2013, 12:01:42 am
like the sound of it mate  :driver:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on March 23, 2013, 12:12:26 pm
SMALL update  :smiley:

Just had my calipers refurbed, as after 6 years of use there was looking really tired. Basically this has been holding up the BIG project, as they calieprs ahve been away for SIX weeks. They are due back tuesday/wednesday then the rest of the work can continue finally...  :party:

Mine is the red one at the front, nice and shiney now!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/886588_584189674927050_1262838316_o.jpg)
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Janner_Sy on March 23, 2013, 03:04:54 pm
PS; anyone who know's keep there mouth shut for now :grin:

I know, but obviously wont be saying.  BUT...how long til its done?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on March 23, 2013, 03:06:23 pm

The TTRS engine will be great Dan, ooops  :grin:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: danishmkvgti on March 23, 2013, 03:07:51 pm
 :party:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Janner_Sy on March 23, 2013, 03:08:52 pm

The TTRS engine will be great Dan, ooops  :grin:

Twin engine'd isn't it... :grin:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on March 23, 2013, 03:09:57 pm

Thats what I meant.  Space framed, twin TTRS engined Leon
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on March 23, 2013, 03:55:37 pm
Im hoping two weeks Sy!
This week Alex needs to finish some bits off, then some minor stuff to finish at APR the week after.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Janner_Sy on March 23, 2013, 05:47:36 pm
2 weeks is OK.  No idea when mine is finished.  if you have a spare steering rack for a Fabia, it'll be much appreciated if you can drop it off at APR HQ  :grin:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Bignod00 on March 23, 2013, 05:58:35 pm
 :popcornsoda: :party:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Pikey Motorsports on March 23, 2013, 06:03:35 pm
nice what power is the gt28 making?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on March 23, 2013, 07:40:04 pm
:popcornsoda: :party:

 :popcornsoda: :party:  To your next mod......  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: Bignod00 on March 23, 2013, 07:45:23 pm
:popcornsoda: :party:

 :popcornsoda: :party:  To your next mod......  :evilgrin:
:innocent:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DFish on March 24, 2013, 07:06:08 pm
Dan, brakes look good but IMO its a shame they painted over the bolts incase they ever need to be split for any reason.

Fish
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DaveB@Vagbremtechnic on March 24, 2013, 07:18:06 pm
They're all fully painted now factory. You wouldn't need to split them to refurb them.

Better looking finish imvo

Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DanGB on March 24, 2013, 11:10:13 pm
They're all fully painted now factory. You wouldn't need to split them to refurb them.

Better looking finish imvo




I believe they split them for this refurb Dave.

PS: thanks for the brake pads, I heard you billed Alex, so I shall pay him.  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: DaveB@Vagbremtechnic on March 25, 2013, 12:20:14 am
They didn't split yours pal....you'd need a reason to slit them and yours were on good nick.

Jonny might have confused yours with a batch of Noble ones he's just done which needed splitting but won't again.

yeh Alex had his cheque book out so I pounced!
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI
Post by: AndrewJB on March 25, 2013, 09:17:43 am
PS; anyone who know's keep there mouth shut for now :grin:

 :innocent:

Cant wait to see once its finished
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI *Update*
Post by: DanGB on May 19, 2013, 05:39:44 pm
Bit of an update before the big one  :laugh: :driver: Few loose ends to tie up and some mapping to finish then i'll post up the results next week or so  :happy2:

Removed the aircon pump yesterday, but also installed the new APR Runner flap delete:
http://www.goapr.co.uk/products/rfd_20t_ea113.html
This goes hand in hand with the APR high flow head work that I had done last year. (http://www.goapr.com/products/cylinder_head_20t_ea113.html)

Here's the little box with them in.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Frfd1.jpg&hash=4627f260d2be51e8ef0242853b80e0b775384aaa)

Never taken the manifold off myself before, and its a pretty big job. Thankfully APR provides excellent step by step instructions.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Frfd2.jpg&hash=332654bd37c33454bc5e6b2266041793d88aa76c)

Here is the manifold off with the flaps in. You cant really see the size of the flaps very well here.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Frfd3.jpg&hash=6f10780777d586f6214359655230147afc8f0c8b)

Here it is with the flap delete.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Frfd4.jpg&hash=82e30f1d321533f8cf5535ac1acc160ef2683523)

Took about 4 hours in total, with two novices taking there time :) Fairly easy job, just a few fiddly bits, and car started ok afterwards.
Needs a mapping now to take advantage.
Unfortunately cant drive it yet as got a clunking noise from the rear hub or rear CV joint, so that needs to be fixed this week  :sad1:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI *update 19/05*
Post by: AndrewJB on May 19, 2013, 07:23:17 pm
Excellent  :happy2:

I was going to buy this kit but been advised by a few there's no point unless going Stage3
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI *update 19/05*
Post by: vRSAlex on May 19, 2013, 07:51:49 pm
Bloody rear cv joints.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI *update 19/05*
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 19, 2013, 07:54:54 pm


 :evilgrin:   :p :grin:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI *update 19/05*
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on May 20, 2013, 07:46:16 am
Bloody rear cv joints.

Tell me about it. Fails on every FWD car I've owned  :sad1:  :wink:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper *update 19/05*
Post by: DanGB on May 30, 2013, 09:10:14 pm
Uh oh, look what I found under my car...

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd1.jpg&hash=fef32917246099a908b6ee29642c92499141e37b)

 :signLOL:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper *Update 30/5*
Post by: RENNTAG on May 30, 2013, 09:12:16 pm
Heard this was coming. Going to be awesome  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper *update 19/05*
Post by: danishmkvgti on May 30, 2013, 09:17:03 pm
Uh oh, look what I found under my car...

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd1.jpg&hash=fef32917246099a908b6ee29642c92499141e37b)

 :signLOL:

Uh, this is not good. I keep trying to avoid this myself, but it's so tempting to put 4wd on the golf. This doesn't help  :fighting:  :laugh:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper *Update 30/5*
Post by: DanGB on May 30, 2013, 09:18:18 pm
Heard this was coming. Going to be awesome  :happy2:

Correction, it IS awesome  :laugh:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper *Update 30/5*
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 30, 2013, 09:20:30 pm
Probably the first one of these in the country now arent you.  Is that this now complete 100%?

What sort of cost are we looking at for this?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper *Update 30/5*
Post by: Hurdy on May 30, 2013, 10:07:28 pm
So how does 4 WD compare with fwd at your power level?

 :driver:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper *Update 30/5*
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 30, 2013, 10:29:15 pm
Interested in how the Kerb weight for an AWD Leon compares to an S3 or R!
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper *Update 30/5*
Post by: DFish on May 30, 2013, 10:31:43 pm
Those air boxes look like they need to be removed. ;)

Fish
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper *Update 30/5*
Post by: DanGB on May 30, 2013, 10:38:18 pm
Probably the first one of these in the country now arent you.  Is that this now complete 100%?

What sort of cost are we looking at for this?

Yep, its as good as done. And yep, should be the first AWD Leon in the UK.  :smiley:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper *Update 30/5*
Post by: DanGB on May 30, 2013, 10:40:16 pm
So how does 4 WD compare with fwd at your power level?

 :driver:


You should know mate. total grip. Epic! Had it on the track a few weeks back, and coming out of the corners in 2nd gear. Zero wheelspin.  :driver:

Will do a full writeup and gallery tomorrow!
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper *Update 30/5*
Post by: DanGB on May 30, 2013, 10:41:15 pm
Interested in how the Kerb weight for an AWD Leon compares to an S3 or R!

Need to get it weighed! Have done a few weight reductions to offset the extra kit though. Will explain tomorrow.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper *Update 30/5*
Post by: DanGB on May 30, 2013, 10:44:41 pm
Those air boxes look like they need to be removed. ;)

Fish

The exhaust? They are the RSC boxes. Actually straight through, but resonate certain low frequencies, awesome technology. You need to hear it when its on full boost. All hell breaks loose  :grin:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - Update 30/5
Post by: james on May 31, 2013, 07:49:30 am
very nice!  got all the bits to do mine.   Will do it when I get back from NZ.

Did you put  an LSD in your gear box?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - Update 30/5
Post by: DanGB on May 31, 2013, 09:40:54 am
very nice!  got all the bits to do mine.   Will do it when I get back from NZ.

Did you put  an LSD in your gear box?

It transforms the car mate, well worth it.

The Peloquin LSD was taken out of my gearbox and a Standard 4motion diff fitted in it. So, standard open diff in now.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - Update 30/5
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 31, 2013, 10:34:42 am
Any reason why you removed it?  Ive read of a few people that have installed a LSD in the front of a Haldex car and apparently its a vast improvement.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - Update 30/5
Post by: james on May 31, 2013, 12:28:03 pm
cant use the same diff.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - Update 30/5
Post by: DanGB on May 31, 2013, 01:06:39 pm
cant use the same diff.

Yep. FWD and 4WD diffs are different.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - Update 30/5
Post by: GarethB on May 31, 2013, 01:12:45 pm
Looks awesome Dan  :happy2:

Me thinks AKS & other tuners are going to be busy in future sorting some more awd conversions  :wink:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - Update 30/5
Post by: DanGB on May 31, 2013, 02:04:15 pm
Looks awesome Dan  :happy2:

Me thinks AKS & other tuners are going to be busy in future sorting some more awd conversions  :wink:

Its Epic  :laugh:

Its not a conversion for the faint hearted.. i'll tell you that.

AKS were involved quite heavily, but more on that later!
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - Update 30/5
Post by: GarethB on May 31, 2013, 02:08:28 pm
Can't wait to hear more  :happy2:

I've had Alex on the phone this morning - just sourcing some more parts & then the golf can move in  :grin:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper *Update 30/5*
Post by: E30Dom on May 31, 2013, 02:11:50 pm
So how does 4 WD compare with fwd at your power level?

 :driver:


You should know mate. total grip. Epic! Had it on the track a few weeks back, and coming out of the corners in 2nd gear. Zero wheelspin.  :driver:

Will do a full writeup and gallery tomorrow!

Umm we're waiting! lol  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - Update 30/5
Post by: DanGB on May 31, 2013, 03:07:31 pm
When I get home from work.. ps I may or may not go to the pub first  :booty:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - Update 30/5
Post by: Hurdy on May 31, 2013, 07:59:24 pm
Must be in the pub! :drinking:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - Update 30/5
Post by: DanGB on May 31, 2013, 09:35:10 pm
Must be in the pub! :drinking:

im home now...  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - Update 30/5
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 31, 2013, 09:48:05 pm

Must be in the pub! :drinking:

im home now...  :happy2:
drunken forum posts FTW  :wink:  :drinking:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - Update 30/5
Post by: DanGB on May 31, 2013, 10:01:19 pm

Must be in the pub! :drinking:

im home now...  :happy2:
drunken forum posts FTW  :wink:  :drinking:

From a Soda water and Lime LOL  :drinking:

Uploading pictures...

Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - Update 30/5
Post by: DanGB on May 31, 2013, 10:38:16 pm
So.. quite a few months back with APR, we discussed a AWD conversion.
It then happened, and here are the results and story..

A couple of Greeks came other to help out for a couple of days, as they had done it before. They were here to do all the mechanicals and to use there experience in the conversion.

The new rear subframe installed with the rear diff and haldex control unit:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd3.jpg&hash=564ffbbefa060e8bfc1fc02cd290403cce8f15e0)

Oops, there a hole in my boot:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd2.jpg&hash=b832e4493598d6485f8eb76f3c6d4139f4c12135)

The transmission tunnel minus the heatshield:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd4.jpg&hash=50e2db3bcfd672813ab287e2ed8ab3505b19588d)

The front transfer box connected to the gearbox:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd5.jpg&hash=7aa4f67ab7174708f631f877628b9a81a991f17b)

The transmission exhaust tunnel:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd6.jpg&hash=12668122201a5cd03d353839c74d4c4c826c82bd)

The new rear hub installed:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd7.jpg&hash=525204f526c6ab91eccaa283f1cdd1acb400d217)

The old subframe off the car:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd8.jpg&hash=e1e9657071b8536a65d6f33ee78447a05316db1b)

The old exhaust had to come off, as the routing for AWD is very different due to the fuel tank and rear subframe in the way:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd9.jpg&hash=124274be4ab35e69b865291fc2f956ecf03501d6)

Sizing up the propshaft:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd10.jpg&hash=79d3df6e6e5c0dfe78a69416860fee67aa77932c)

A new bracket for the propshaft needed to be welded on the car:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd11.jpg&hash=f298fd1de171c1591d66000d24ebe931d09dc575)

Peak-a-boo. The spare wheel well in the boot floor needed to be removed as the rear diff and subframe were now in the way:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd12.jpg&hash=602862f1c81de9ab501b87c61cc14064a1ea1673)

The legendary Ricky Elder sorting out the wiring. This involved wiring the Haldex unit, the new fuel tank and second feed, and some other misc parts:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd13.jpg&hash=c641d1bbc68673e75c09cf417be28ce3881ad107)

The whole interior needed to be removed whilst the propshaft bracket was being welded. Scary sight:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd14.jpg&hash=41837181edbf4c941e54effcee9784470ce4828e)

The suspension re-fitted on the rear subframe:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd15.jpg&hash=38638f6d24a04d2804074570f123c055bffb3881)

The propshaft now fitted:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd16.jpg&hash=74de86aa887dd22f225ac11eb1d7a188585ce907)

Mechanical finishing touches:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd17.jpg&hash=d9ee9c2355c16fa9414bfd76f16d1a02f8b00e3c)

The car back on solid ground now fitted with AWD parts:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd18.jpg&hash=92f3a71f3d01a3fb4daaeb69fd1364ad71bcc692)

"In good company" - with the APR demo car.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd19.jpg&hash=2e612e72d32be478ce3b1f5535b432d5d6d7aee1)

Now, as I said earlier, the exhaust on AWD is quite different to FWD. This is where the fantastic Alex from AKS comes in. The car went over to his for a new custom APR RSC using some of the old bits, but some parts like below had to be created from scratch.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd20.jpg&hash=b29feacaa86455f3e3aa21ed06d313604e119cd2)

Kudos to Alex for the amazing job as you can see below.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd21.jpg&hash=ef9f8f2c33a38d411cdfeeb83703d335ecd4cf80)

In addition to the exhaust, Alex also remade the boot floor. The idea behind it was to cover the Rear diff, but still have a space to store more jack etc:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd22.jpg&hash=f4339fa52b668c2c9459aaadc75f18b69a512805)

The new boot floor all painted and tidy. Excellent work!
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd23.jpg&hash=545daa9994847b007c0d6a0cbc321d64f444ea87)

The new exhaust in place. you can see the old and new bits:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd24.jpg&hash=32397f9136c3e196056d85bcff544d42494830b6)

Exhaust in place:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd25.jpg&hash=e97875a24477aa2f53c0a7e6f349af2d37c1a97b)

Wow that flex is close to the propshaft:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd26.jpg&hash=58bbae4c7476a9a44b9a39d8090d716911435545)

New front and rear H&R ARB's (supplied by AKS) also needed to be fitted, as they are different in AWD cars:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fawd27.jpg&hash=a53f85ec5d128ad8468611cdb5bd44ee4c93f085)


In addition to the mechanics, Several bits of wiring needed to be completed, new ABS, and ESP modules needed to be fitted and coded in correctly.
The old Peloquin diff was removed and replaced with a OEM 4WD diff.
But thats the jist of the project.

So.. how is it?

In a word.. Fantastic. I took it on track a few weeks ago for a session round Lydden Hill, and well.. it just pulled - with zero wheelspin.
The car is around 450hp, but I can come out of the corners in 2nd gear and it just grips - its immense.

The car has some extra weight now, but ive made some weight saving changes to help offset this:
-Spare wheel gone.
-Aircon removed.

Finally big thanks goes to APR for making this happen, and Alex at AKS for going beyond the call of duty to get the supporting parts made and fitted!





Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: AndrewJB on May 31, 2013, 10:42:26 pm
Amazing  :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:


Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Hurdy on May 31, 2013, 10:51:47 pm
Great modification that :happy2:

TFSI Mike will be next then!  :wink:

Do you know whether it is coded in on the Esp as the original single step or two step?

Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: damoegan on May 31, 2013, 10:56:55 pm
Top job, Dan  :happy2:

No rear vented disc conversion?

Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on May 31, 2013, 10:57:23 pm

Do you know whether it is coded in on the Esp as the original single step or two step?


Not sure what that means to be honest..  :stupid:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on May 31, 2013, 10:58:12 pm
Top job, Dan  :happy2:

No rear vented disc conversion?


Nah, kept the standard rear brakes to.. erm save weight  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on May 31, 2013, 11:01:42 pm
Bravo Dan, seriously  :congrats:

The money/patience and determination that has gone into your "Leon Sport" is truly commendable mate.. The 4wd part is at another level though  :stupid: :signLOL:

At least you can put that power to good use now..  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Mk5Dom on May 31, 2013, 11:20:28 pm
Fantastic work! Well done.  :drool:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Dan648v on May 31, 2013, 11:26:40 pm
Cost? I know I'm not the only one thinking it  :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on May 31, 2013, 11:29:59 pm
Cost? I know I'm not the only one thinking it  :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

Sorry, dont have a cost It was essentially a project for both sides  :happy2:

The labour wouldnt be cheap though, many hours spent doing this.  :congrats:
And theres a hell of a lot of parts involved.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on May 31, 2013, 11:30:46 pm
Bravo Dan, seriously  :congrats:

The money/patience and determination that has gone into your "Leon Sport" is truly commendable mate.. The 4wd part is at another level though  :stupid: :signLOL:

At least you can put that power to good use now..  :happy2:

hit the nail on there head there mate, 450 through the front wheels is nice, but a bit  :stupid:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Dan648v on May 31, 2013, 11:33:07 pm
Cost? I know I'm not the only one thinking it  :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

Sorry, dont have a cost It was essentially a project for both sides  :happy2:

The labour wouldnt be cheap though, many hours spent doing this.  :congrats:

Fair enough, that's understandable  :happy2:

Nice car indeed!
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: xjay1337 on June 01, 2013, 12:38:06 am
Well that's actually impressive.
It's not "hard" but it's really daunting. Luckily it's with OEM parts, good on you mate for making it happen.  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Hedge on June 01, 2013, 05:27:56 am
Nice work Dan, Alex, APR and the Greeks.  :notworthy: :notworthy:
Title: Re: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: torque777 on June 01, 2013, 05:42:44 am
Just read this through ....very impressed 8)

sent using my own fingers
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Bignod00 on June 01, 2013, 07:36:29 am
Great work matey, been waiting for this update for a while now! :happy2:

Make sure you go and scare Al today!  :driver: :pomppomp:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - Update 30/5
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 01, 2013, 09:18:22 am
In a word.. Fantastic. I took it on track a few weeks ago for a session round Lydden Hill, and well.. it just pulled - with zero wheelspin.
The car is around 450hp, but I can come out of the corners in 2nd gear and it just grips - its immense.

This is exactly what stood out with the APR Golf R!!

irrelevant of pedal weather, speed or steering angle, when you want to go faster, you just stick your foot down and its off with no issues whatsoever.  I cant do that in my Fabia with semi slicks running half the power!!!
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on June 01, 2013, 09:53:47 am
Great work matey, been waiting for this update for a while now! :happy2:

Make sure you go and scare Al today!  :driver: :pomppomp:

i'll get him to do some vid's as well today.  :driver:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: gazbutS3 on June 01, 2013, 11:10:45 am
Awesome Dan, just awesome :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: rich83 on June 01, 2013, 11:28:57 am
Looks like a really good job!  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: b9rgo1234 on June 01, 2013, 01:25:15 pm
Amazing  :congrats: Well done!!
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: wigit on June 01, 2013, 02:36:44 pm
Amazing conversion and such a sleeper  :congrats:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Itsagthing on June 01, 2013, 02:57:37 pm
Nice little read from start to finish, hats off great work from all involved. Looks so oe too. As soon as I get my garage something along these lines will be produced......great reading though
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Hurdy on June 01, 2013, 04:45:59 pm

Do you know whether it is coded in on the Esp as the original single step or two step?


Not sure what that means to be honest..  :stupid:

One step only lets you "limit" the ESP. Two step lets you either limit the ESP or turn it off fully for some slippy sideways action at the track. :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Bignod00 on June 01, 2013, 10:56:37 pm
Great work matey, been waiting for this update for a while now! :happy2:

Make sure you go and scare Al today!  :driver: :pomppomp:

i'll get him to do some vid's as well today.  :driver:
Good lad, will be watching with interest! ;)
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: SRC on June 03, 2013, 05:35:22 pm
 :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:
How about a video?  Please?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Jussa on June 03, 2013, 05:47:33 pm
Unbelievable mod Dan, at least I won't see you anymore after your quarter mile run moaning about getting the power down  :signLOL:
I'm well up for seeing your new strip times  :drool:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on June 03, 2013, 10:22:50 pm
Sorry, no vid's yet. The CV joint seems to have committed suicide over the weekend, so its now a 3WD car  :grin:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fcv.jpg&hash=08066d9a0c90482815c212a5d216e19fde76049f)


Is ok though, I found another driveshaft down the back of the sofa...


(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fdriveshaft.jpg&hash=158df10ea63151960833397f09e81d03225ee08b)

Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: james on June 04, 2013, 01:41:51 am
lol nice!

Dan could you list all the parts needed to convert to awd.

I think I have most of them just would like to make sure  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on June 04, 2013, 04:25:52 pm
lol nice!

Dan could you list all the parts needed to convert to awd.

I think I have most of them just would like to make sure  :happy2:

Ths is what I can think of the top of my head. I didn't supply all parts so not definite.

4WD diff
Diff carrier
Haldex controllerPropshaft
Front transfer box
Rear diff
fuel tank and sender
ABS controller
ESP controller
Rear subframe
Rear hubs
L/R Rear drivehsafts
Front and rear Anti roll bars
New exhaust parts
wires, bolts, sundries, and oils
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on June 05, 2013, 12:09:47 pm
Ok, its fixed.
But i have a problem. The front tyres are far too grippy (R888's) causing the car to bog on launch big time. This means you can launch at any rev's, but it always falls down to 1-2k RPM, and the turbo has to spool again. I need to swap the tyres round so the Goodyears are on the front, to hopefully induce some slip on the front.

Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Hurdy on June 05, 2013, 05:30:31 pm
You should go with Goodyears all round for a decent launch for straight line work. For corners the R888's all round or on front. :smiley:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: gazbutS3 on June 05, 2013, 05:43:12 pm
I wouldn't mix tyres front to rear, gets the haldex in a tiz apparently
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on June 05, 2013, 05:48:43 pm
Gents, Ii cant see an issue with the 888's on the rear though? Why would there be?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: rich83 on June 05, 2013, 05:49:57 pm
Just weld the haldex up and have done with it.  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 05, 2013, 06:37:15 pm
grippier rear tyres = understeer though.

When i was hooning and i mean reallu hooning the APR Golf R with its Hankook tyres, at no point did i think, this car really needs some R888s or semi slicks.  The only reason you need them on a FWD is purely to put the power down.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: gazbutS3 on June 05, 2013, 07:22:26 pm
Gents, Ii cant see an issue with the 888's on the rear though? Why would there be?

The S3 manual does tell you not to mix tyres

thinking out loud, the haldex only sends power to the rear when the front loses traction, so with mixed tyres with different grip would there be more switching of the power front to rear??????
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Hurdy on June 05, 2013, 07:33:25 pm
grippier rear tyres = understeer though.

When i was hooning and i mean reallu hooning the APR Golf R with its Hankook tyres, at no point did i think, this car really needs some R888s or semi slicks.  The only reason you need them on a FWD is purely to put the power down.

^^^^^THIS^^^^^

maxxed out cornering on track would be the only reason to have semi slicks on a Haldex 4wd system, and even then if you mixed tyres front to rear, the grippier tyres should be at the front to ....

A) reduce the need for the grip and drive to have to be split to the rear
B) reduce understeer.

Having normal stret tyres like Goodyears on a 4WD Haldex car is even more beneficial as it does allow the traction to break a little on full bore launches and they have better overall grip in the wet. If you have 600bhp then just maybe you'll need semi-slicks. :smiley:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on June 06, 2013, 09:15:18 am
Is it not beneficial to have the R888's on the rear to stop the rear breaking loose?

I dont intend to the replace the R888's, im just waiting for them to wear out tbh.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: danishmkvgti on June 06, 2013, 01:54:43 pm
Is it not beneficial to have the R888's on the rear to stop the rear breaking loose?

I dont intend to the replace the R888's, im just waiting for them to wear out tbh.

As the others has stated
grippy rear=understeer
grippy front=oversteer

 :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Jussa on June 06, 2013, 04:07:33 pm
Ok, its fixed.
But i have a problem. The front tyres are far too grippy (R888's) causing the car to bog on launch big time. This means you can launch at any rev's, but it always falls down to 1-2k RPM, and the turbo has to spool again. I need to swap the tyres round so the Goodyears are on the front, to hopefully induce some slip on the front.



She's smoking a bit isn't she??
Unless mine does the same under full beans  :laugh:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 06, 2013, 06:33:37 pm

She's smoking a bit isn't she??
Unless mine does the same under full beans  :laugh:

I thought that looked like crap and dust being thrown up by the tyres.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: AndrewJB on June 06, 2013, 07:17:49 pm
i think the TFSI engines do give a slight puff of smoke
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on June 06, 2013, 08:59:02 pm
Think its dust/gravel mainly. But, it is quite smokey - so much fuel pressure.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on June 06, 2013, 08:59:26 pm
Erm, Think i'll be ditching my R888's

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Ftyrebulge.jpg&hash=bc6e8709c6ea6647d25c7f9f3f68644bd45ce052)
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 06, 2013, 09:09:35 pm
WTF!!!!! Never seen that on a tyre before.

On a plus note, a least it solves your where to run the R888 tyres though
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: AndrewJB on June 06, 2013, 09:13:09 pm
Think its dust/gravel mainly. But, it is quite smokey - so much fuel pressure.

The Golf R is the worst ive seen for this i think, was surprised mine did it on the RR
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 06, 2013, 09:40:37 pm
YOu see it alot on Dyno days thinking about it.  2.0TFSI.  Sounds and smokes like a diesel lol
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Itsagthing on June 07, 2013, 10:40:21 am
That pretty awesome side wall bulging great stuff! :driver:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Scottymon on June 07, 2013, 10:54:05 am
I'd wager that's a pretty dangerous tyre now then, lol.  What's causes it?  Poor manufacturing? Too high pressure, heat...
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: james on June 08, 2013, 12:34:04 pm
god that is Smokey, mine was never that bad.

You need a smaller turbo or be able to build boost idle  :driver:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Hurdy on June 08, 2013, 04:18:28 pm
Is it not beneficial to have the R888's on the rear to stop the rear breaking loose?

I dont intend to the replace the R888's, im just waiting for them to wear out tbh.

I prefer the extra grip at the front and have a more playful rear end. :happy2: if the rear does break loose the Haldex will just shove the power back to the front anyway.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on June 08, 2013, 08:41:11 pm
Mine is quite smokey, but that white stuff is dust on the video. My smoke is black-ish  :laugh:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on June 08, 2013, 08:49:32 pm
Went to pod today for some runs. got a pair on Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2's on the front first.

Not great really, struggled with the launches, really bogging most of the time, and it seems really hard to get smooth gear changes with my car - noted by someone else as well.

PS: I dont like drag racing..  :stupid:

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Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: danishmkvgti on June 08, 2013, 09:14:52 pm
Get a WOT box fitted, helps the gearchanges endelessly  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on June 08, 2013, 09:20:49 pm
Mine is quite smokey, but that white stuff is dust on the video. My smoke is black-ish  :laugh:

Black smoke is the ECU over-fuelling. May be worth having a look at your map and getting it tweaked a little?

Last time I was at JKM, the Revo Ed30's  in particular were very smokey  :chicken:

Not ideal, but won't do any harm
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on June 08, 2013, 09:44:45 pm
Mine is quite smokey, but that white stuff is dust on the video. My smoke is black-ish  :laugh:

Black smoke is the ECU over-fuelling. May be worth having a look at your map and getting it tweaked a little?

Last time I was at JKM, the Revo Ed30's  in particular were very smokey  :chicken:

Not ideal, but won't do any harm

The map is quite rich in parts, thats normal for my map and hardware combination  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 08, 2013, 10:30:44 pm
Went to pod today for some runs. got a pair on Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2's on the front first.

Not great really, struggled with the launches, really bogging most of the time, and it seems really hard to get smooth gear changes with my car - noted by someone else as well.

PS: I dont like drag racing..  :stupid:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fawd%2Fpod8-6-13.jpg&hash=b343876b693980fe742d3494b111b3c7ae7c3599)
Is keith still only stage 3 or is he running stage 3+?  I see he was in the 11.5 area now on pump fuel!!!  Someone should make him put a GTx30 on his. Surely a 10 sec run to be had!

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Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on June 09, 2013, 09:52:01 am
I ended up taking the BM down yesterday Dan and saw both you and Keith running (have videos of both of you too). I was going to come over and say hi but the one chance I got you were away from your car and the rest of the time I was sat in the bloody queue (never known so many break downs tbh, bloody Vauxhalls).  :fighting:

Definitely some potential there mate.. :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Hurdy on June 09, 2013, 10:40:11 am
I ended up taking the BM down yesterday Dan and saw both you and Keith running (have videos of both of you too). I was going to come over and say hi but the one chance I got you were away from your car and the rest of the time I was sat in the bloody queue (never known so many break downs tbh, bloody Vauxhalls).  :fighting:

Definitely some potential there mate.. :happy2:

What times Ben? - PM me so as not to clog Dan's thread. :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on June 09, 2013, 05:14:47 pm
That was awful, we just sat in the queue for ages not moving, couldn't understand why, plus the motorbikes push in as well.

Have you got that vid Ben?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on June 09, 2013, 10:06:30 pm
Turns out I only have the one of you Dan and it was your first (slowest run). Sorry pal, could of sworn I had more..

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi172.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw6%2FCUPRA270%2Fth_IMG_3815.jpg&hash=292280db0032beea84d64d386ccb0bac6971ef7b) (http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w6/CUPRA270/IMG_3815.mp4)
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: W8 Performance on June 15, 2013, 04:53:45 pm
Saw this today at prept. Looked good and got some pics on track of it.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on June 16, 2013, 07:44:03 pm
Saw this today at prept. Looked good and got some pics on track of it.

Nice one mate! I'll message you for the pics.

Here's a vid of me yesterday pissing over everything at brands hatch.

Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: rich83 on June 16, 2013, 07:52:10 pm
sh*t the bed......  :scared:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on June 16, 2013, 08:00:18 pm
sh*t the bed......  :scared:

Quite  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: rich83 on June 16, 2013, 08:06:59 pm
sh*t the bed......  :scared:

Quite  :happy2:

Slowing down is obviously not high on your list of priorities!  :signLOL: :signLOL:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: MAT ED30 on June 16, 2013, 08:12:42 pm
You got a race haldex? It looked to under steer pretty badly a few times and what with the transporters on track  :driver: :signLOL:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: W8 Performance on June 16, 2013, 08:13:15 pm
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Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Dave J on June 16, 2013, 08:28:33 pm
Brilliant conversion - good to see it's being put to use!

Enjoyed the vid - pretty poor driving by that silver mk3 driver at the start of the vid. Seems completely unaware. Never seen anything like it when I've ventured on track!
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Hurdy on June 16, 2013, 09:51:31 pm
So, you are in a prime position now to say whether or not you believe FWD or AWD is better on track?

Awesome vid too Dan. Liking the commitment on some of those turns. :driver:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 16, 2013, 09:59:10 pm
AWD is better for big power, theres no doubting that.  But you put a FWD 260Hp GTI against a 260Hp Golf R and the GTI will be better.  The biggest improvement AWD will bring to a driver is it means they dont need to have any form of throttle control.  Just use it as an on/off switch and let the haldex soak up the traction. 

I personally like Haldex, and would love it for my next car, but i dont think its better for driving.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Itsagthing on June 16, 2013, 10:00:04 pm
Great vid you seem to be backing off a lot though dude?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Hurdy on June 17, 2013, 12:50:11 am
AWD is better for big power, theres no doubting that.  But you put a FWD 260Hp GTI against a 260Hp Golf R and the GTI will be better.  The biggest improvement AWD will bring to a driver is it means they dont need to have any form of throttle control.  Just use it as an on/off switch and let the haldex soak up the traction. 

I personally like Haldex, and would love it for my next car, but i dont think its better for driving.

So to summarise... :wink:

Haldex is better for big bhp cars (anything over 260bhp?)
AWD means not having to use throttle control, which by implication means that you need to adjust throttle in a fwd car, ergo a fwd car is less stable.
A FWD Golf GTI would be faster than a 4WD Golf R with the same power.......in the dry :wink:

I'm sold on 4WD already Sy. :innocent:

Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Janner_Sy on June 17, 2013, 07:16:10 am
 :grin:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on June 17, 2013, 09:28:39 am
Great vid you seem to be backing off a lot though dude?

There were some moments before some turns where I was hitting the limiter and just couldnt be bothered to change up a gear, as it was so close to the next corner. For example, the main straight I could get into 5th, but only for a short while, so just let off until breaking time. My gear changes in my car arnt the smoothest so thats why  :smiley:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on June 17, 2013, 09:30:36 am
So, you are in a prime position now to say whether or not you believe FWD or AWD is better on track?

Awesome vid too Dan. Liking the commitment on some of those turns. :driver:

For my car its 100% better. now you can use ALL the power, as before, coming out of turns, it would wheelspin in the lower gears, even with the Peloquin diff installed.
Im not a good enough driver to judge other factors yet.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on August 12, 2013, 09:43:51 am
Well, cars been off the road for ages since a track session at btands hatch 3 months ago.
Had an elusive oil leak, then an elusive boost leak.
Boost leak turned out to be the wastegate rod had disconnected from the watsegate. Impossible to see without the subframe off.

Was at 30-130 yesterday and had the car weighed. A good result of 1400kg without driver and 5/8 full tank of fuel.
Thought that was pretty good considerinf its standard wheels and road trim inside.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: mk_boy85 on August 12, 2013, 08:36:04 pm
Hi. I'm majorly impressed with this. I'm currently building my golf into the same as yours. Got a few questions. Can you tell me where you got you centre bracket mounts from and could you put me in touch with the guy who wired your 4wd ?

Thank craig
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on August 14, 2013, 09:39:06 am
Hi. I'm majorly impressed with this. I'm currently building my golf into the same as yours. Got a few questions. Can you tell me where you got you centre bracket mounts from and could you put me in touch with the guy who wired your 4wd ?

Thank craig

Hi Craig,

the parts were bought as a package (im not sure of the origin though).
By centre bracket mount, do you mean the propshaft mount half way long the transmssion tunnel? This is a standard part so you can buy this or poick it from a scrappy. The mounts are also standard I beleive and were welded on.

The install was done by a couple of greek guys that came over, who were knwn to APR, but I dont have there contact details, and they didnt speak much english.

What information are you after?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on August 16, 2013, 11:30:17 am
Car's been feeling a bit sad lately, what with the oil and boost leaks, so i'd thought i'd give it some love with a new headunit. And of course it has to be OEM with my car.

I trieated it with an RNS510 version H, quite quite new, with 4020 firmware.

I previously had an RNS510,version A, years ago, but was pretty horrible, due to imcompatiblities with the unit, and other things about the unit which were crap or I dont link, but 6 years alater its all good :)

I changed the colour scheme of the unit, so the media pages are red instead of white - so its a bit less distracting when driving at night. The nav pagesa are a very dark blue which is nice.

I also changed the VW boot up logo to the SEAT one using an easy tool:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.goapr.co.uk%2Fdan%2Frns1.jpg&hash=7b4dd3ebd6b7a0e49733032a432f224ca8f2210b)

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Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Janner_Sy on August 16, 2013, 12:19:43 pm
That makes the dash look a million times better  :happy2:
Title: Re:
Post by: Bignod00 on August 16, 2013, 02:31:28 pm
Which tool did you use to change the boot screen Dan? I've got the version H also and couldn't get any I tried to work! :-(
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on August 16, 2013, 02:50:15 pm
what problem did you have?

I used this:
http://www.netdata.be/iso/?action=about
Title: Re:
Post by: Bignod00 on August 16, 2013, 02:52:58 pm
Thanks matey, the weird thing is that's what I used too! It just would'nt read the disk!

I tried, DVD + & -, CD and two different burning programs!
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on August 16, 2013, 02:55:20 pm
Yes, it says CD error, then some other error. You have to go into firmware downgrade mode to do it.
Its a certain key combination that I cant remember right now.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on August 16, 2013, 02:58:54 pm
I think Setup + Star + Eject will reboot in into firmware downgrade mode and read the CD.
Title: Re:
Post by: Bignod00 on August 16, 2013, 03:01:22 pm
Yeah matey, tried that too. It went into the updates mode then just spat the disk back out again! I got angry so gave up in the end, may try again now I know you've done it on a H also! :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on August 16, 2013, 03:03:11 pm
Cool, if all else fails I will send over my CD (if you want that logo)  :happy2:
Title: Re:
Post by: Bignod00 on August 16, 2013, 03:08:29 pm
Thanks matey, your a star! :happy2:

I'll give it another go this weekend as I'm changing my cam follower too and let you know if I sort it!
Title: Re:
Post by: Bignod00 on August 16, 2013, 03:45:21 pm
Damn it!! Just gone out to try it and my battery is totally dead! Bloody RNS!
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on August 16, 2013, 03:57:27 pm
oops, do you have the newer CAN gateway?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: Bignod00 on August 16, 2013, 04:37:32 pm
oops, do you have the newer CAN gateway?
I'd hope so matey as its a 58 plate car? Gotta scan it and find out.........now to find someone with VCDS near me. :sad1:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI Sleeper - *4WD conversion = Done*
Post by: DanGB on April 23, 2014, 11:01:06 am
Well, about time I updated this.

Its was away/broken since October last year. The turbo broke - not only did the bearings start going, there was also a pretty epic crack in the housing.
So, it was 'upgrade' time. Went for a GTX2867 as per the APR Stage 3+ GTX kit. About the same top end, but noticeably better spool up.

As part of the upgrade, also got a new Carbonio closed air intake, and APR 155bar fuel rail valve, and a new fuel rail pressure senor to let a bit more fuel through.

Gearbox was also 'rebuilt' at AKS, not much needed doing really, just replacing a few minor cheap bits, more preventative work, whilst it was apart.

Then it went over to VRS Northampton. Needed a new N75 valve, gear linkage cable needed replacing, and most of all, the ESP needed sorting.
Since having the 4WD, the ESP has never worked properly. But after many days of fault finding, it was traced to a dodgy wire, and one of the sensors upside down, and now its perfect"

Oh, still has a minor water leak, and possibly oil leak still   :signLOL:


Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper - *Update 23/4*
Post by: toosmiles on April 23, 2014, 11:09:48 am
cant beleive ive only just seen your car m8
what an awesome build thread and car
nice to see something 'built' than bought :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper - *Update 23/4*
Post by: Hurdy on April 24, 2014, 12:59:03 pm
Excellent update Dan. Have you dyno'd it yet on the new set-up?

Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper - *Update 23/4*
Post by: DanGB on April 24, 2014, 06:46:44 pm
Excellent update Dan. Have you dyno'd it yet on the new set-up?



Thank you John  :wink:

So, yes I did take it to R-tech for a dyno and logging session recently, as the car didnt quite feel as quick as it 'should' be.

Here is the graph:
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Its pretty quick, but should be making 450hp with the Stage 3+ kit I have.

Strangely enough though, the APR map has switchable programs via the cruise control stalk, and I went to 'change' the map the other day to ensure it was on the '98 RON' map, and it indicated it wasn't for some reason! But there was no way of telling what map it was on. So perhaps it was only running on the 95RON map which I also have. (Wouldnt of been on the 104RON map as it would of been pulling back lots of timing).
There doesn't seem to be much difference though on a quick drive after 'changing' the map program.

There is a whole new map due in a free weeks too with new features like the motorsport limiter and new boost control, so that should be interesting to try. Will do a before and after dyno hopefully.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper - *Update 23/4*
Post by: Hurdy on April 25, 2014, 11:26:53 am
Mighty torque that has.  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper - *Update 23/4*
Post by: DanGB on April 25, 2014, 02:28:54 pm
Brake update time.

Ive had the AP Racing kit for nearly 7 years now, and they served me well.
It was the mk5 specific kit they do including 6 pot calipers, and 330x28mm rotors and bells. Extremely light weight.

Ive found though, especially recently they seem to be getting to hot, thus decreasing the life of the discs and pads.

So I'd thought I try something new:
I bought some second hand TTRS calipers from Ebay for £300, and also the TTRS fully floating 'upgrade' kit from Alex Kerr (made by Vagbremtechnic).
This includes:
-362x32mm Rotors.
-Custom bells
-Custom brackets
-HEL Braided lines

Also Picked up some Pagid Blue RS4-2 pads to go with this:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.goapr.co.uk%2Fdan%2Ffloating.jpg&hash=c6f29e62bbcbe46aeb1c06156189dac345edf886)

And here they are on the car after I fitted them:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fbrakes1.jpg&hash=d5c3457c7d8fdfe40230e2d46b16b1b8081bae85)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fbrakes2.jpg&hash=a4801832c5ce5ab378db24502d759151c15f9b90)

I still needed my existing 10mm Spacers to clear the calipers though  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on April 25, 2014, 02:54:29 pm

 :party: :party:

I  :love:  brakes
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: Pikey Motorsports on April 25, 2014, 03:02:19 pm
How will those calipers conpare to the aps on track?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: DanGB on April 25, 2014, 04:07:32 pm
How will those calipers conpare to the aps on track?

I shall find out next weekend, with a few sessions at Lydden.
Seemed to have cooked my brakes last year at Lydden, was very hot though!
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: DanGB on May 04, 2014, 06:57:41 pm
Heres something you dont see very often.. Pictures of my engine bay:

Replaced the underbonnet soundproofing as the old one was all mouldy and saggy due to the common water leak problem.
To try and stop this problem this time, I painted the underside of it with rubberised paint.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fbay1.jpg&hash=92e7722d550c60af9d33fedad53197d5ca655b53)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Fbay2.jpg&hash=d6f94c37f5645fecd8d20b838e69bf181786b8a0)

Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 04, 2014, 07:02:55 pm
What's on your relay box Dan?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: rich83 on May 04, 2014, 07:03:54 pm
WMI controller?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: DanGB on May 04, 2014, 07:05:03 pm
Yes a Snow performance WMI controller. The WMI stopped working a long time ago for some reason, so dont use it anymore..
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: N8KOW on May 04, 2014, 07:23:11 pm
How did the brakes perform on track?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: DanGB on May 04, 2014, 07:32:42 pm
How did the brakes perform on track?

Will find out tomorrow  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on May 04, 2014, 07:35:24 pm
Lyden?  :driver:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: DanGB on May 04, 2014, 09:43:17 pm
Lyden?  :driver:

Indeed  :driver:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: DanGB on May 08, 2014, 08:52:24 pm
Had a couple of sessions at Lydden hill on monday, as part of the BHP Performance show.

Heres a vid of a session after a red flag stoppage. Had a nice challenge with the R-tech golf  :wink:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu6hxikQXHc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu6hxikQXHc)
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: Sie on May 08, 2014, 10:01:56 pm
And I thought a session at a Combe action day was bad, that's chaotic! Dangerous to think you can overtake wherever you want.

Bet you don't even get out if 2nd do you??

Simon
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: mk_boy85 on May 08, 2014, 10:28:18 pm
That 2 seater needed pushing out the way and a bit better organisation way too many cars for that track. That ed30 looked good


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Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: DanGB on May 08, 2014, 10:36:55 pm
That 2 seater needed pushing out the way and a bit better organisation way too many cars for that track. That ed30 looked good


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I didnt think it was too bad, for general track sessions. Bare in mind I was at the rear of the queue.

That Atom needed moving out they way. I started beeping him lol
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: mk_boy85 on May 08, 2014, 11:52:33 pm
That 2 seater needed pushing out the way and a bit better organisation way too many cars for that track. That ed30 looked good


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I didnt think it was too bad, for general track sessions. Bare in mind I was at the rear of the queue.

That Atom needed moving out they way. I started beeping him lol

I'd have gave him a tap, what's a new front bumper lol


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Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: rich83 on May 08, 2014, 11:55:59 pm
Didnt fancy driving the racing line then?  :grin:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: Janner_Sy on May 09, 2014, 07:30:49 am
That's the reason I've only ever done Lydden Hill once. Far to congested with cars and it's like the wacky races
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: liver on May 09, 2014, 08:40:51 am
that's not a track session that's just a free for all

can't believe how many people were running wide and kicking up dust

I'd just be happy I got off that with the car in one piece
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: DanGB on May 09, 2014, 09:05:18 am
Didnt fancy driving the racing line then?  :grin:

Too busy overtaking everyone  :laugh:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: DanGB on May 09, 2014, 09:07:33 am
That's the thing with Lydden. Its pretty much a free for all, as you only have <15mins per session. Not proper rules really.
I like to stay at the back on these sessions so I can have a bit of a overtaking session. Ive done Lydden so many  times, so gets boring just going round on your own tbh, as its so short.
I think there were normally less than 20 cars per session on track, so normally wasn't too bad.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: rich83 on May 09, 2014, 10:05:01 am
Didnt fancy driving the racing line then?  :grin:

Too busy overtaking everyone  :laugh:

LOL.... that video is like me playing real racing 3....  :signLOL: :signLOL:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: DanGB on June 30, 2014, 02:19:36 pm
Fixed the launching issue. There was some sort of torque limit applied in first gear. Havent tried it myself yet, but someone else has and it launches properly now!

Bring on GTI International this weekend!  :driver:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: Hurdy on July 01, 2014, 08:10:37 am
That's good news Dan. Should be able to chop a fair chunk of time off that 1/4 mile time now. Terminal speed will go up a few mph too.  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: Janner_Sy on July 01, 2014, 10:16:01 am
Fixed the launching issue. There was some sort of torque limit applied in first gear. Havent tried it myself yet, but someone else has and it launches properly now!

Bring on GTI International this weekend!  :driver:

Are the issues from the 30-130 day ironed out?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: DanGB on July 01, 2014, 01:40:59 pm
There was an oil leak of some sort. There is still an oil leak of some not, maybe not the same one though.
I have a new turbo since then though!
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: DanGB on July 10, 2014, 09:34:54 pm
Few updates:

Had the wheels sprayed so they are now actually silver rather than Grey, also had all the dents and dints done, there were about 15 around the car.

Amazing weekend at GTI Inters just gone!

Car was working pretty well at first, although unfortunately gained a boost leak after a couple of runs. Still got fastest SEAT on the Saturday though.

First run left the ESP on, oops  :ashamed:
Second run 13:08 2.2 60ft, but wheel hopped badly at the start.
Next two runs both 1.949 60ft but a boost leak on them :(

Sods law. Should have been an easy 12.5 at least!

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Finters14%2F1.jpg&hash=c5385ec89ba77da1c6da1401b6860bd541ce2c05)

Gave the car a damn good detailing at VRS Northampton on the Friday. A Polish with some Merzerna, A glaze with some Poorboys Black hole, and then a wax. Looking its best for a good few years.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Finters14%2F2.jpg&hash=89541bb0a3d497824e4533218150ae597ec4fdc3)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Finters14%2F3.jpg&hash=ee88c9dbbcb3759ae8a0f06b98e7089bd38e96fb)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Finters14%2F4.jpg&hash=2ca4f5dc50b733d44078cbc678b4091244573339)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Finters14%2F5.jpg&hash=cdda6f49b318249c0563a2b94ada10175e0c98bb)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Finters14%2F6.jpg&hash=c2f92cf2559724cbd7df7b2affdb58903d2c2d39)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Finters14%2F7.jpg&hash=d9c62222cfb0833e178e1f8265055ab77ffa4667)
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: toosmiles on July 10, 2014, 11:20:39 pm
nice pics and excellent results m8 :happy2:
shame about the niggles :sad1:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: danishmkvgti on July 11, 2014, 07:30:33 am
Congrats on the medal and a shame about the leak.
The car really looks good, makes me want to give my own an overhaul :)
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on July 11, 2014, 07:36:44 am
Do you do the car by hand Dan?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: Pikey Motorsports on July 11, 2014, 03:08:54 pm
Looking good what was your speeds at inters
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: L1ARR on July 11, 2014, 04:27:12 pm
Congrats on the trophy. All the hard work seems worth it when you bag a win.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: DanGB on July 11, 2014, 09:18:00 pm
Do you do the car by hand Dan?

Used a machine to apply the Polish and the glaze. applied the Wax by hand  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper
Post by: DanGB on July 13, 2014, 01:44:10 pm
Cheeky shot I found of a launch.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.trafficandtravel.net%2Fother%2Finters14%2Finters_launch.jpg&hash=838e36ed9d25038beae52b4049b3eba804fc5364)
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper - The End
Post by: DanGB on April 07, 2015, 02:15:17 pm
Hello, long awaited update.
Car was off the road for a while due to broken gearbox, and needed a clutch replacement, which I had done last month. Also had a bit of work to the exhaust to make it quieter.

Had a bit of a mishap with the car on Sunday though. Thankfully myself and passengers were all ok. Car looks terminal though.
Almost 9 years to the day I got it this happened: (tomorrow was its 9 year anniversary)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpt1/v/t34.0-12/11117990_10155360761830398_1806673097_n.jpg?oh=7c820c33a7c5b16f3eba5e7444d43cd3&oe=55263ED8&__gda__=1428499456_61156050fc2104f25917997007a8f0fd)

Its had a good innings, although was increasingly unreliable the last few years.

Thanks guys, its been an interesting journey.  :wink:

May be stripping for parts soon  :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper - The End
Post by: RENNTAG on April 07, 2015, 02:17:30 pm
NOOOOOOOOOO!

Sorry to see this. Glad everyone got out ok. Looks pretty serious. Shame after so much work has gone into it.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper - The End
Post by: xjay1337 on April 07, 2015, 02:25:03 pm
Bloody hell mate.
Glad you are OK
What happened???
Defo buy it back and strip for bits  :happy2: :happy2:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper - The End
Post by: rdfcpete on April 07, 2015, 03:18:08 pm
What happened Dan, that looks nasty?  :surprised:

Sorry to hear it's probably a W/O and glad all inside were ok!  :confused:
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper - The End
Post by: joms6r on April 07, 2015, 03:36:39 pm
Only just seen this thread today, just had a quick read through. Gutted for you mate, considering all the work that has gone into the car! Any thoughts about whats next then if you do strip it down?
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper - The End
Post by: cupra.al on April 07, 2015, 06:20:56 pm
sorry to read about this used to follow this on scn silently and also on here.
Glad that everyone was ok considering by the look of it that it took a rather large shunt.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper - The End
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on April 07, 2015, 08:41:44 pm

Was so gutted for you when you told me this dude.  So much work gone in to what's one of my all time faves, despite the gremlins you've had along the way!

Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper - The End
Post by: JaseGti on April 07, 2015, 09:18:36 pm
Nasty glad everyone is all safe and well
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper - The End
Post by: Hedge on April 07, 2015, 09:31:19 pm
Sorry to see this Dan. Hope everyone involved is Ok.
Title: Re: DanGB's Leon Sport TFSI 4WD Sleeper - The End
Post by: rich83 on April 08, 2015, 08:03:40 am
Phew that looks like it could have been nasty for you all. Glad to hear no one is hurt   :drinking: