MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Mk5 GTian on April 06, 2012, 06:18:39 pm
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Just been reading this week's Autocar, and I couldn't believe that the new 320D they are running cost £39K once the options list had been ticked. :confused:
I couldn't help but think this makes the £42K specced up Golf R discussed last week look an absolute bargain!
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Just been reading this week's Autocar, and I couldn't believe that the new 320D they are running cost £39K once the options list had been ticked. :confused:
I couldn't help but think this makes the £42K specced up Golf R discussed last week look an absolute bargain!
why? i agree its mad money but don't see how it makes a vw hatch seem cheaper, because the golf is faster?
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The BMW probably handles better :chicken:
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you can spend £40k on an 8P without options - the world has gone mad...
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The market is different to 10 years ago, people who bought m3s now buy diesels because of company car tax and spec them to sin, how many good lookin bm and audi's do you see that have four pot diesel motors in them? Loads
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A press demo for a mag will have every possible option known to man, nobody in their right mind specs a car like that, or more to the point pays list price.
Given it's VW rival is a Passat, lets see how much we can spend on a 170bhp diesel version??? I know which I'd rather have.........
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WHAT??? 40K for a passat.. thats crazy...
/humour
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I'm sure the 120d that was at shows with every BMW performance item came in at over 50k, saying that BMW performance doesn't count because it's just :love:
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Just been reading this week's Autocar, and I couldn't believe that the new 320D they are running cost £39K once the options list had been ticked. :confused:
I couldn't help but think this makes the £42K specced up Golf R discussed last week look an absolute bargain!
why? i agree its mad money but don't see how it makes a vw hatch seem cheaper, because the golf is faster?
Not cheaper, but better value in my opinion! I know what I'd rather spend 5 years driving!
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You can take the Beemer and shove it where the sun don't shine :booty:
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Swings and roundabouts though. The BMW over 5 years will cost you next to nothing to run, it will be more practical and comfortable, and it will still be worth something when you come to sell it. They're two totally different cars doing totally different things.
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Swings and roundabouts though. The BMW over 5 years will cost you next to nothing to run, it will be more practical and comfortable, and it will still be worth something when you come to sell it. They're two totally different cars doing totally different things.
Unlike the £4K BMW M5 2000 model on wheeler dealers last night, from 50K to 4K in 11.5 years :signLOL:
I am pretty sure 3yr depreciation on BMW's and VW Golfs runs at around the 50% mark (give or take 1-3% each way)
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It's more model specific than that...
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You can take the Beemer and shove it where the sun don't shine :booty:
Yes Jussa! :congrats: :congrats: :congrats:
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Swings and roundabouts though. The BMW over 5 years will cost you next to nothing to run, it will be more practical and comfortable, and it will still be worth something when you come to sell it. They're two totally different cars doing totally different things.
If you haven't topped yourself through boredom or regret at not buying the R :signLOL:
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Swings and roundabouts though. The BMW over 5 years will cost you next to nothing to run, it will be more practical and comfortable, and it will still be worth something when you come to sell it. They're two totally different cars doing totally different things.
If you haven't topped yourself through boredom or regret at not buying the R :signLOL:
I have a 2010 320d M Sport. It's actually a very good car, but I'd never be as stupid as to compare it to a Golf R.
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I'm sure the 120d that was at shows with every BMW performance item came in at over 50k, saying that BMW performance doesn't count because it's just :love:
BMWP parts are certainly lush mate, no doubt. Just a shame that BMW price the parts out the market to a certain degree.. :sad1:
Would of certainly added more to my 1er if I could of done it without putting my house on the market.. :rolleye:
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Swings and roundabouts though. The BMW over 5 years will cost you next to nothing to run, it will be more practical and comfortable, and it will still be worth something when you come to sell it. They're two totally different cars doing totally different things.
If you haven't topped yourself through boredom or regret at not buying the R :signLOL:
I have a 2010 320d M Sport. It's actually a very good car, but I'd never be as stupid as to compare it to a Golf R.
I was simply making the point that the sort of money BMW is asking for a well specced 320D drags it into well specced Golf R territory on price. Which is frankly, quite ridiculous!
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The Golf R is a totally different car so dont see how they are being compaired.
Audi A4/Passat/C Class etc are similar cars to which the 320D will be pitched against.
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The Golf R is a totally different car so dont see how they are being compaired.
Audi A4/Passat/C Class etc are similar cars to which the 320D will be pitched against.
The point I'm trying to make (badly it would seem) is that a 2 litre executive diesel rep-mobile shouldn't cost the same sort of money as a highly specced Golf R. I'm not comparing the two vastly different car types, just struggling to see how BMW can justify this sort of price for a (admittedly excellent) 2 litre diesel saloon.
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But you could take the view that a Caterham R500 (also around £40k) can't be worth the same money because it doesn't have 4 doors, leather seats etc. The cost of a car can't always be based on its performance capabilities...
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But we've already shown you can spec a VW Passat, a very inferior car to the 320 to £40k+ - the Golf R is mute point, VW are just as good at taking the piss with repmobile pricing.
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I take your point Andrew, but I've always perceived the sort of budget you'd need for a 320D or equivalent as similar to that required for a Golf GTi or equivalent. It seems to have increased in price disproportionately. Maybe the technological advances required to keep the 3 series so far ahead of the game in terms of economy and performance are a factor?
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The list prices aren't that different, but as with all German manufacturers, once you delve into options there's no limit to the madness!
Our 320d M Sport Touring had only 4000 miles on it when we bought it and most options, and it cost a little over £26k, which by today's costs looks like value for money!
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The Golf R is a totally different car so dont see how they are being compaired.
Audi A4/Passat/C Class etc are similar cars to which the 320D will be pitched against.
The point I'm trying to make (badly it would seem) is that a 2 litre executive diesel rep-mobile shouldn't cost the same sort of money as a highly specced Golf R. I'm not comparing the two vastly different car types, just struggling to see how BMW can justify this sort of price for a (admittedly excellent) 2 litre diesel saloon.
Fair point, I guess it will all come down to personal choice...I know which i would have :driver:
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Me too, but then I'm 38 going on 21, and have yet to grow out of hot hatches! :grin: