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Title: Where's Poverty??
Post by: tony_danza on April 07, 2012, 03:58:43 pm
I don't mean in a 'putting salt in wounds' sense - but he's just gone missing completely?

If someone knows him, tell him I hope his car problems are getting sorted and I'm sure if he needs some help the forum will step up  :happy2:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 07, 2012, 04:06:21 pm
He made a mess of his car ie blew the gearbox up so has not posted on the site since he did that
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: RedRobin on April 07, 2012, 04:06:39 pm
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Hasn't he posted very recently in Oli's Lambo thread?

Perhaps he's only into such exotica nowadays.

EDIT: No, I'm mixing him up with cupra_k1.
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 07, 2012, 04:10:10 pm
Sure he is fine
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: andrewparker on April 07, 2012, 05:33:45 pm
Is blowing the gearbox up pretty serious then?
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Edition30 on April 07, 2012, 05:51:58 pm
Ouch, didnt realise that had happened...down to any reason or just a faulty gbox in general?
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: RedRobin on April 07, 2012, 06:54:12 pm

Is blowing the gearbox up pretty serious then?


....It's gotta be pretty expensive with 'Audi tax'.
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: andrewparker on April 07, 2012, 07:05:37 pm
Very true, and I'm guessing the ramifications to other parts of the engine could be very costly too.
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Greeners on April 07, 2012, 07:20:42 pm
I think it took the engine too..........
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: chungster on April 07, 2012, 07:28:51 pm
I think it took the engine too..........

 :surprised:

Warranty job???
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: damoegan on April 07, 2012, 07:41:16 pm
I think it took the engine too..........

 :surprised:

Warranty job???

Doubt it with stage 2 mods fitted....
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 07, 2012, 07:53:19 pm
Who knows  :confused: one way or another he killed something on it
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on April 07, 2012, 07:56:23 pm
I think it took the engine too..........

Heard this too but think Jase denies it over on SCN so who knows
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: tony_danza on April 07, 2012, 11:00:29 pm
Well slotting the wrong cog will never be saved by a rev limiter, so it wouldn't surprise me if his bonnet is full of valves.

Poor chap.
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: vRStu on April 08, 2012, 08:42:33 am
Hmm that's going to be mildly expensive.
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: chungster on April 08, 2012, 09:56:30 am
He's been busy on this thread though over on SCN!

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=348533
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: andrewparker on April 08, 2012, 10:14:37 am
I don't understand why he always seems to be chasing bigger and bigger BHP figures. Does it make a car faster? Yes. Does it make it better to drive? I'd probably say the opposite. It makes me think he doesn't really understand what a good car is...

All this talk of 650 BHP 911s and 1000+ BHP GTRs, well it's all a bit boring if you ask me.
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: RedRobin on April 08, 2012, 10:50:17 am

I don't understand why he always seems to be chasing bigger and bigger BHP figures. Does it make a car faster? Yes. Does it make it better to drive? I'd probably say the opposite. It makes me think he doesn't really understand what a good car is...

All this talk of 650 BHP 911s and 1000+ BHP GTRs, well it's all a bit boring if you ask me.


....I've never met the guy but I'm thinking he may be a bit young and feels he needs to seek attention. Is he too embarassed to continue posting here?

As you suggest, Andrew, the key to successful modding is to know the limits and work within them leaving some headroom tolerance. Even full-on race cars need some headroom if the race is long, and fast road use is never a short journey.

Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Jussa on April 08, 2012, 11:20:12 am
He made a mess of his car ie blew the gearbox up so has not posted on the site since he did that

What mods did he do to blow up his gerabox and engine???   :confused:
Doesn't he just have a Audi TTRS at stage 2?
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: chungster on April 08, 2012, 11:27:54 am
He made a mess of his car ie blew the gearbox up so has not posted on the site since he did that

What mods did he do to blow up his gerabox and engine???   :confused:
Doesn't he just have a Audi TTRS at stage 2?

He was at Santa Pod. Selected 1st gear instead of 3rd with the car at full pelt in 2nd.
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: vRStu on April 08, 2012, 11:32:53 am
So has he toasted the box and the engine?
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: chungster on April 08, 2012, 11:35:14 am
So has he toasted the box and the engine?

He's mentioned finding a donor car with box on SCN but dunno bout the engine
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: sub39h on April 08, 2012, 11:38:28 am
I don't understand why he always seems to be chasing bigger and bigger BHP figures. Does it make a car faster? Yes. Does it make it better to drive? I'd probably say the opposite. It makes me think he doesn't really understand what a good car is...

All this talk of 650 BHP 911s and 1000+ BHP GTRs, well it's all a bit boring if you ask me.

Clarkson wrote about this once - he said the absolute limit for a road car is about 600bhp. Beyond that you need to be spending serious development money getting the car right (i.e. Bugatti Veyron). This was one of the reasons he didn't like the GTO. Clarkson may be a prat but I can see where he's coming from.

So if Ferrari can't make a good road car with 600bhp+ I doubt a man in a tuning shop can make a good 600bhp+ road car out of a car that was designed to make half of that. That's why I think modding should be a restrained exercise, not "more is better".

He made a mess of his car ie blew the gearbox up so has not posted on the site since he did that

What mods did he do to blow up his gerabox and engine???   :confused:
Doesn't he just have a Audi TTRS at stage 2?

He was at Santa Pod. Selected 1st gear instead of 3rd with the car at full pelt in 2nd.

Should have got DSG. Sorry, couldn't resist! I do wish him well tho and hope it gets sorted.
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: vRStu on April 08, 2012, 11:39:46 am
I think Jonny C's car had to have a new box at some stage too.
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Jussa on April 08, 2012, 11:40:19 am
He made a mess of his car ie blew the gearbox up so has not posted on the site since he did that

What mods did he do to blow up his gerabox and engine???   :confused:
Doesn't he just have a Audi TTRS at stage 2?

He was at Santa Pod. Selected 1st gear instead of 3rd with the car at full pelt in 2nd.
How the hell did he do that  :stupid:
He must have hit it into 1st with a hammer  :scared:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: rich83 on April 08, 2012, 12:20:54 pm
I think if I had spunked a ton of money on a TTRS and a bunch on mods... And then blown the engine and gearbox up, I think I would be crying into my foie gras and swan salad!
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: RedRobin on April 08, 2012, 12:52:53 pm

I think if I had spunked a ton of money on a TTRS and a bunch on mods... And then blown the engine and gearbox up, I think I would be crying into my foie gras and swan salad!


....And surely one of your tasty Scotch Eggs would be included!
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: vRS Carl on April 08, 2012, 01:42:36 pm
I thought going into 1st instead of 3rd at full pelt would be ok :confused: They do it no problem on The Fast and The Furious. Maybe he should have bought Japanese  :grin: :evilgrin:

Seriously though for what it will cost to fix he may as well buy a new car. Shame that Awesome don't still have that RS3 engine. Would have saved him a whole heap of work.
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: rich83 on April 08, 2012, 01:50:20 pm
Theres an rs3 going for 13k at the moment, front end offside damage. Engine looks ok tho. :-)
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 08, 2012, 02:05:57 pm
To be honest he goes on and on about his mates and how good of a driver he is on this forum well its no mystery why he has been away
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: sub39h on April 08, 2012, 02:59:55 pm
Theres an rs3 going for 13k at the moment, front end offside damage. Engine looks ok tho. :-)

RS3 is S-Tronic only tho...
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: vRS Carl on April 08, 2012, 03:03:17 pm
Doesn't matter for the engine i don't think. It's still the same engine as far as I'm aware.
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Edition30 on April 08, 2012, 03:06:26 pm
He says the engine is fine on his build thread...just the drive train... :confused:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: vRS Carl on April 08, 2012, 03:09:39 pm
Will be slightly less expensive then.  :wink:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: RedRobin on April 08, 2012, 03:12:08 pm
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The bottom line is that if he can't be bothered to stay in contact with this excellent community, then who cares where he is etc.
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Top Cat on April 08, 2012, 08:59:21 pm


Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Dsg steel on April 09, 2012, 12:26:56 pm
Come on lads leave the guy alone just because he's young and got a ttrs you guys are hating.

You guys miss him really that's the reason for this thread  :grin:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: andrewparker on April 09, 2012, 12:58:43 pm
Come on lads leave the guy alone just because he's young and got a ttrs you guys are hating.

Who are you? His mother?
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Hedge on April 09, 2012, 12:59:24 pm
 :signLOL:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: WhiteGTI on April 09, 2012, 01:49:36 pm
Come on lads leave the guy alone just because he's young and got a ttrs you guys are hating.

Who are you? His mother?

I tend to agree with you mate, no real need for all the b!tching! So he's been a silly boy and accidently messed up his gearbox. Probably very embarrassed at his mistake, but life goes on?! I think everyone's time is better spent talking about GTI's rather than this guy's unfortunate mistake...
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: andrewparker on April 09, 2012, 01:59:28 pm
Not everyone aspires to own a TTRS you know. I most certainly don't.
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: boxxer1973 on April 09, 2012, 02:01:57 pm
Not every body revels in somebody's misfortune either. Seems another face that doesn't fit.
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: RedRobin on April 09, 2012, 02:33:41 pm
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I think there's an element of what goes around comes around. Wasn't it Poverty who used to often post 'very negative' stuff towards other members?
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: mvb12 on April 09, 2012, 02:37:25 pm
 :popcornsoda:

very amusing  :congrats:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Greeners on April 09, 2012, 02:47:45 pm
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I think there's an element of what goes around comes around. Wasn't it Poverty who used to often post 'very negative' stuff towards other members?

I think it's more a case of, if you put yourself up there, be prepared to be shot at.

I have nothing against the guy personally and have only posted what I have heard regarding his car, but the willy waving does get very tedious to say the least!  :indifferent:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Top Cat on April 09, 2012, 03:53:10 pm
Pov, never comes on here being negative about other members. He does come across a bit foolish with his comments about his friends and there cars, but it is hardly a crime.  :confused:
At the end of the day he is a car enthusiast like the rest of us.  All this gossiping and bitching should be saved for the APR v  Revo degaybate
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: boxxer1973 on April 09, 2012, 03:55:49 pm
No debate Revo wins



 :booty: :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Re: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Bignod00 on April 09, 2012, 03:57:11 pm
All this gossiping and bitching should be saved for the APR v  Revo degaybate
+1! :)

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Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: andrewparker on April 09, 2012, 04:19:55 pm
Pov, never comes on here being negative about other members.

Yeah, to be honest I don't ever remember him being negative towards others. In fact he takes the comments aimed at him rather well I think.

To suggest that this thread is born out of jealousy because he's got a TTRS is a bit childish and ever so slightly hilarious.
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: RedRobin on April 09, 2012, 04:24:07 pm

Pov, never comes on here being negative about other members.


Yeah, to be honest I don't ever remember him being negative towards others. In fact he takes the comments aimed at him rather well I think.


....I seem to particularly remember a lot of negativity being directed by Poverty towards JonnyC, hence my earlier post. However, enough has been said and there are much more interesting thread subjects on the forum.

I particularly liked TC's post of the Les Dawson vid  :laugh: - Very appropriate  :happy2:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 09, 2012, 04:27:12 pm
I don't think anyone is jealous of him having a ttrs at all  :confused: it's only a tt so nothing that special if we are being honest.
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: RedRobin on April 09, 2012, 04:32:13 pm

I don't think anyone is jealous of him having a ttrs at all  :confused: it's only a tt so nothing that special if we are being honest.


....I, for one, am certainly not jealous but this is "only a TT":

Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: simonp on April 09, 2012, 04:35:47 pm
I don't think anyone is jealous of him having a ttrs at all  :confused: it's only a tt so nothing that special if we are being honest.

But it's faster than a GT-R...
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: tony_danza on April 09, 2012, 04:37:14 pm
The 'jealousy' card being played already? My my my.....

Am I back in school?? FFS.
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 09, 2012, 04:53:04 pm
I know Mike it's daft if you ask me
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 09, 2012, 08:58:48 pm
Pov, never comes on here being negative about other members.

Yeah, to be honest I don't ever remember him being negative towards others. In fact he takes the comments aimed at him rather well I think.

To suggest that this thread is born out of jealousy because he's got a TTRS is a bit childish and ever so slightly hilarious.

I met him at santapod and he seemed a nice lad tbh.  Different to how he can come acrosss on the forum.  Seemed a genuine enthusiast.  there wasnt any boasting or anything, if anything he was the opposite and was being critical of himself because he couldnt nail his launches. 

Fair play to the guy, when he had the issue, he laughed about it(awkwardly i might add) and said **** it, i might as well build the engine, it'll be cheaper.

If i had done that, i think id have needed some alone time  :grin:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: rich83 on April 09, 2012, 09:03:41 pm
Pov, never comes on here being negative about other members.

Yeah, to be honest I don't ever remember him being negative towards others. In fact he takes the comments aimed at him rather well I think.

To suggest that this thread is born out of jealousy because he's got a TTRS is a bit childish and ever so slightly hilarious.

I met him at santapod and he seemed a nice lad tbh.  Different to how he can come acrosss on the forum.  Seemed a genuine enthusiast.  there wasnt any boasting or anything, if anything he was the opposite and was being critical of himself because he couldnt nail his launches. 

Fair play to the guy, when he had the issue, he laughed about it(awkwardly i might add) and said **** it, i might as well build the engine, it'll be cheaper.

If i had done that, i think id have needed some alone time  :grin:

I think thats happens a lot. You build up a picture of someone by what they say online, and they are nothing like it when you actually meet them  :happy2:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Hedge on April 09, 2012, 09:13:32 pm
I think thats happens a lot. You build up a picture of someone by what they say online, and they are nothing like it when you actually meet them  :happy2:

Thanks Rich.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: rich83 on April 09, 2012, 09:15:12 pm
I think thats happens a lot. You build up a picture of someone by what they say online, and they are nothing like it when you actually meet them  :happy2:

Thanks Rich.  :happy2:

Not you...  :P
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Thor on April 09, 2012, 09:15:34 pm
The 'jealousy' card being played already? My my my.....

Am I back in school?? FFS.

LMFAO,

'Some days your the pigeon and some days your the statue'  or as Forest Gump said 'sh*t happens'  At the end of the day it's only bits of metal, which can be fixed.
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: CarrG on April 09, 2012, 09:15:48 pm
Pov's a good guy.

Sure he's out fixing boilers right now to sort the TT  :smiley:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on April 09, 2012, 09:19:52 pm

I imagined you'd be in full S&M get up when we met Ian, much to my relief I was wrong lol
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Thor on April 09, 2012, 09:20:40 pm

I imagined you'd be in full S&M get up when we met Ian, much to my relief I was wrong lol

Yeah but did he bring his special cloth  :wink:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on April 09, 2012, 09:23:34 pm

Nope, I was looking forward to learning more about rohypnol too  :sad1:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: stealthwolf on April 09, 2012, 09:28:00 pm
Hedge might oblige and give you a free sample! :happy2:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 09, 2012, 09:31:31 pm
hedge used to try rohypnol on me until he realised all he had to do was ask :grin:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: rich83 on April 09, 2012, 09:35:34 pm
IM sure i have met hedge before... but i can't remember....


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Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Deako on April 09, 2012, 11:01:24 pm
I think thats happens a lot. You build up a picture of someone by what they say online, and they are nothing like it when you actually meet them  :happy2:

Thanks Rich.  :happy2:

You mean you dont arrive by Vulcan bomber at every VW show?
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 09, 2012, 11:02:43 pm
Hmm tc been in my sig again  :grin:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Hedge on April 09, 2012, 11:03:05 pm
I think thats happens a lot. You build up a picture of someone by what they say online, and they are nothing like it when you actually meet them  :happy2:

Thanks Rich.  :happy2:

You mean you dont arrive by Vulcan bomber at every VW show?

I wish but sadly not.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on April 10, 2012, 01:46:55 pm
Pov's a good guy.

Sure he's out fixing boilers right now to sort the TT  :smiley:

Close mate.. He's actually sunning himself in Jamaica at the minute, but I'm sure he'll be happy to reply to this 5 page slagging fest when he returns and answer any questions..
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Wild Bean on April 10, 2012, 02:05:24 pm
I heard he was making a new coffee table.. :signLOL:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Jussa on April 10, 2012, 02:47:54 pm
Pov's a good guy.

Sure he's out fixing boilers right now to sort the TT  :smiley:

Close mate.. He's actually sunning himself in Jamaica at the minute, but I'm sure he'll be happy to reply to this 5 page slagging fest when he returns and answer any questions..
I have to say that it's incredible this thread has received 73 replies  :confused:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: andrewparker on April 10, 2012, 02:52:13 pm
Pov's a good guy.

Sure he's out fixing boilers right now to sort the TT  :smiley:

Close mate.. He's actually sunning himself in Jamaica at the minute, but I'm sure he'll be happy to reply to this 5 page slagging fest when he returns and answer any questions..
I have to say that it's incredible this thread has received 73 replies  :confused:

Haha, 3 of them are yours! Besides nothing particularly insulting has been said.
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on April 10, 2012, 03:01:50 pm
Pov's a good guy.

Sure he's out fixing boilers right now to sort the TT  :smiley:

Close mate.. He's actually sunning himself in Jamaica at the minute, but I'm sure he'll be happy to reply to this 5 page slagging fest when he returns and answer any questions..
I have to say that it's incredible this thread has received 73 replies  :confused:

Haha, 3 of them are yours! Besides nothing particularly insulting has been said.

Yeah I know Andrew and some of the comments are in fact the opposite. It's just that how would you feel if you returned from holiday to see a thread with your name on it and then going on to read some of the replies..
Can't say I would want to post on here again if it were me, regardless of what differences in opinions we all have on these forums..  :sad1:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Janner_Sy on April 10, 2012, 03:03:14 pm
Might be worth deleting this thread actually. 
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 10, 2012, 03:07:37 pm
Ben I don't think anyone has said anything bad about him it's more of he is on the site loads and since the car trouble he went quiet so I think it's more people being curious as you know we are a close lot on the site and when people don't post we all think something bad might have happened as when vc left us, I tried to get hold of him loads as I was worried  :smiley: as he had some health problems to sort out. Don't get me wrong me and pov don't see eye to eye on most things but I dont wish or want anything bad to happen to him as most things are only banter and if you can't take a few digs from time to time then it's time to leave this place  :smiley:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: andrewparker on April 10, 2012, 03:14:02 pm
Yeah I know Andrew and some of the comments are in fact the opposite. It's just that how would you feel if you returned from holiday to see a thread with your name on it and then going on to read some of the replies..

Well unfortunately for me I have had that happen here. Luckily I've got a thick skin and I construe most of the digs I receive as a laddish form of affection.

Anyway, I know what you mean, but people are only curious as to what has happened to his car. It's not voyeurism, and I'm pretty sure no one will take any pleasure in any misfortune he might have had.
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Top Cat on April 10, 2012, 03:15:18 pm
Ben I don't think anyone has said anything bad about him it's more of he is on the site loads and since the car trouble he went quiet so I think it's more people being curious as you know we are a close lot on the site and when people don't post we all think something bad might have happened as when vc left us, I tried to get hold of him loads as I was worried  :smiley: as he had some health problems to sort out. Don't get me wrong me and pov don't see eye to eye on most things but I dont wish or want anything bad to happen to him as most things are only banter and if you can't take a few digs from time to time then it's time to leave this place  :smiley:


Do you need a hand out of their Mat.  :laugh:

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Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: Deako on April 10, 2012, 03:17:59 pm
Ben I don't think anyone has said anything bad about him it's more of he is on the site loads and since the car trouble he went quiet so I think it's more people being curious as you know we are a close lot on the site and when people don't post we all think something bad might have happened as when vc left us, I tried to get hold of him loads as I was worried  :smiley: as he had some health problems to sort out. Don't get me wrong me and pov don't see eye to eye on most things but I dont wish or want anything bad to happen to him as most things are only banter and if you can't take a few digs from time to time then it's time to leave this place  :smiley:


Do you need a hand out of their there Mat.  :laugh:

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Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 10, 2012, 03:26:36 pm
Got too much bigger things in my life at the mo mate way way too busy to dig a hole mate  :smiley:
Title: Re: Where's Poverty??
Post by: George on April 10, 2012, 03:46:17 pm
This is an awful thread and I'm surprised it hasn't been deleted already. Pov is a great guy who is always willing to help and give advice.

And Robin, I'm pretty sure both Jonny and Pov have driven each others cars, so I hardly think there is hostility between them.